>>23330697how and why is it a waste? are you the guy i was talking to? did you even play mw4 or mw4m? how would you have improved the controls? you twist the joystick to move in a different direction. you can still circle strafe. the joystick added to the immersion of the game. there is not way mw4 is more fun without a joystick than with it in terms of immersion.