Thread 23327114 - /m/ [Archived: 905 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:11:11 AM No.23327114
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I think turning Gundam into a Super Robot show was a bad idea
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:12:57 AM No.23327119
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>>23327114 (OP)
But G Gundam was great go back to whatever fucking discord raid you crawled out of
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:16:26 AM No.23327134
It was literally a Super Robot show from the first episode of the original series. It is credit as a step forward for Real Robot because it put forward the idea of this tech being researched and developed and manufactured instead of some gift from god or an alien or shit out by one genius as a one off, but any major fight from Amuro first taking out a Zaku to him dueling Char's Gelgoog was Super Robot as fuck
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:19:12 AM No.23327145
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>>23327114 (OP)
Anyone who goes on and on about Super and Real robot is a fucking moron 9 times outta 10 and should be ignored. Gundam doesn't and has never played by your genre-conforming rules.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:22:50 AM No.23327158
>>23327145
Correctamundo.

What these people mean by "Real Robot" is Battletech and its ilks.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:23:32 AM No.23327163
I'm all for it. It's completely ridiculous but it works for me.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:24:53 AM No.23327170
>>23327134
The term "real robot" was literally coined to promote the Gundam movie trilogy in the early '80s so no, you're wrong.

"Real robot" doesn't mean there are no supernatural elements. It means that the robots are treated as vehicles in a human v. human conflict.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:37:54 AM No.23327224
>>23327170
Proof?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:43:10 AM No.23327240
>>23327158
>>23327145
There's obviously a difference between stuff like Patlabor and Votoms vs. Gurren Lagann and RahXephon.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:46:36 AM No.23327252
>>23327240
On the gameplay.

Every shows have plot devices up the ass.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:49:32 AM No.23327266
>>23327224
I don't feel like digging it up but "ăƒȘă‚ąăƒ«ăƒ­ăƒœăƒƒăƒˆ" started being used by the Animage and Newtype magazines around the time the trilogy came to theaters, and Tomino embraced it.

The difference that fans were noticing was that the robots were being treated like replaceable hardware. They weren't something unique or special, they were mass produced and were deployed in relatively grounded military scenarios. A mecha anime can be "real robot" and still have a few supernatural or farfetched sci-fi ideas.

It becomes "super robot" when you've got some super special unique machine that's protecting the world from aliens or kaiju or whatever. Some Gundam stuff does kinda blur the lines between real/super, like Unicorn and Turn A.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:51:07 AM No.23327271
>>23327114 (OP)
Holy shit go back.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:52:44 AM No.23327275
>>23327266
It's really not that deep. Survey 100 people on /m/ or whatever and they'll say there are "Big stompy robots" and "robots that make the enemy go 'Haiyai desu!" but to sound like you know what you're talking about you call them "real robot" and "super robot" respectively.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:55:22 AM No.23327285
>>23327266
Tomino originally coined the term 'hard robot' to refer to Gundam, but 'real robot' was coined by Takahashi Ryosuke (Votoms, Dougram, Layzner).
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:55:44 AM No.23327290
Super and Real are just marketing terms mainly relating to the toys (something like chogokin vs plamo respectively) actually
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:59:59 AM No.23327302
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>>23327290
Not true
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:05:17 AM No.23327318
>>23327119
G Gundam knew it was dumb and didn't try to be anything other than what it was. It may not have been in your taste, but you can't say they didn't have a vision and then execute the plan well.
>>23327114 (OP)
Gcucks is trying to be a intricate story with multiple, overlapping threads, but it's just a sloppy mess of poorly done plot points and jerky progression. It being super or real robot wouldn't make a difference. The robots are just window dressing. The actual plot happens between characters and no amount of setting tweaks can save this pile of bullshit.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:08:29 AM No.23327326
>>23327318
>multiple overlapping threads
All I see are two: the Amate-Nyaan-Shuji romance triangle / "AU" plot, and the Universal Century focused B plot delving into Zabi politicking and how little things changed despite Zeon winning.