>"too many references!"
It was literally stated and marketed as a "what if" version of UC from the start.
>"Multiverse/Newtype shit!!!!"
You all sucked off Unicorn and Zeta, and we have threads almost every fuckin day asking what happened in the end of CCA. Like how is this a revelation to you all? it was hinted pretty loudly in the first 3 episodes
>"NOSTALGIA BAIT!!!"
Agiain, it was advertised FROM THE START that this was a UC "what if" thing. You're going to see UC characters. That fact was like one of the shows top 3 marketing points. Like they didnt even really dwelve into the "glup shitto" characters at all but yet here we are with hundreds of threads crying over a litteral non issue.

Its like every installment, like there are actual flaws to the show (episode count, story pacing, ect.) but seriously why does this board insist on hyperfixating on such absurd critisisms?

>>23333322 (OP)
>It was literally stated and marketed as a "what if" version of UC from the start.
Having a 5 memberberries per episode isn't a requirement to a "what if", you know. Especially when they had so little time.
>You all sucked off Unicorn
False premise, argument discarded.
>Agiain, it was advertised FROM THE START that this was a UC "what if" thing
Refer to the first argument above.

>>23333322 (OP)
you probably could of just posted this in one of the million other gqux threads

Congratulations, you've discovered the board is 99% shitposters who don't even watch half the shit they talk about.

>>23333322 (OP)
It wasn't just a what if. It's a special anniversary event show that celebrates UC by showcasing UC suits and characters through the lense of a new generation. Machu and Nyaan are just inserts for todays young people. The alt history "what if" part isn't the main feature. It's just a small aspect of the multiverse backstory that in itself is just an instrument to facilitate the different look and and feel and ship and suit redesigns as well as the meeting of characters from other realities. Who are just part of the UC anniversary parade that this show is.

>>23333322 (OP)
I remember people sucking off Unicorns music and the events to around episode 4.

>>23333322 (OP)
I used to enjoy /m/ a lot. I took a break from 4chan for several years. And it turned into this. What happened?

>>23333475
Indians.

enough of all these shit shows where every character is a newtype. Gundangelion is another empty mess from Bandai executives.

>>23333331
>>23333386
>>23333490
Botposts.

>>23333322 (OP)
>You all sucked off Unicorn
Go back to mecha twitter, fuckwit.

>>23333475
/m/ is a niche board. There are a lot of us who have been here for a very long time because there’s unfortunately nowhere better to discuss giant robots. Unfortunately this is still 4chan so most people drawn to the site are tourists who think it’s a requirement to act edgy and retarded to fit in. The age gap between the new and old gen posters doesn’t help, for those of us going into our 30s or older, it’s like trying to talk to teenagers in real life. They still haven’t developed half of their brain and Zooms are borderline illiterate and incapable of understanding things that require even a bit of attention or critical thinking.

>>23333475
I can tell you what happened: subhumans from reddit and twitter discovered mecha and are upset that /m/ isn't the toxic positivity board they thought it was from the posts in their circlejerks and the epic jarman videos. Hence they come here and pull the same old
>x place was good but then something happened
card they've been pulling since 2016 rather than admit they're newfags with false assumptioms of what this place is like.
>b-but I'm an oldfag, look at this obscure knowledge I dug up from the archive!
No one gives a shit faggot. Fuck off to your twitter echochamber with the rest of your rainbow flag brethren if you are incapable of handling the heat.

>>23333546
>toxic positivity
What the fuck are you talking about you tourist piece of shit.

>>23333549
Go back.

>>23333546
You don’t have to talk like this to fit in, you can type normal you know. Do you even like mecha?

>>23333445
young people are fucking retarded and they suck.

>>23333546
Third worlders and people too dumb to use a computer got internet access en masse over the last 10 years. I’m not talking about normal people. I’m talking about braindead drooling helmet wearing retards(aka zoomers) and unevolved monkeys from villages with communal wells in 2025

>>23333475
I've been coming here and off since like 2008, /m/ is one of the boards that changed the least, mr faggot concern troll.

>>23333588
/m/ became botted to hell and not the good kind.

>>23333541
>most people drawn to the site are tourists who think it’s a requirement to act edgy and retarded to fit in
Thank you truthsayer.

>>23333524
>>23333592
No schizo anon, just because someone expressed an opinion you don't agree with doesn't mean they are a bot.

>>23333599
Since when is "necroes multiple threads a day with often unrelated images from the archive" an opinion?

>>23333541
>They still haven’t developed half of their brain and Zooms are borderline illiterate and incapable of understanding things that require even a bit of attention or critical thinking
GCucks is made for people with ADHD though.

>>23333605
That's not a bot, that's Duel.

Revisionist gcuck tourists have been a disaster for /m/ankind.

>>23333322 (OP)
It was always like this, you just grew up and are seeing it from the otherside.

>>23333541
>Unfortunately this is still 4chan so most people drawn to the site are tourists who think it’s a requirement to act edgy and retarded to fit in.

This is the core of it essentially. 4chan has always been an edgy shithole but smaller boards like /m/ retained discussion and even in older times the worst aspects weren't nearly as amplified. Ever since 2015-2016 the site has been continuously infested with tourists from Reddit and Twitter, which has resulted in a change to the culture and ways of speech. This is made worse by the internet changing as well, so now on most sites honest discussion and lighthearted jokes are flooded by bots or garbage posted by zoomers for lack of a better term.
It isn't a unique phenomenon, as the entire internet has become progressively more shit as more and more people grow up with it and corporations destroy it. /m/ as a board was and still is insulated due to its niche nature but even now parts of that trickle in, especially with GQ being more popular. Still, at least it isn't nearly as bad as /v/ has become, that board downright had the mods partitioning every on topic post into different boards so now it's basically /b/-lite with a dash of vidya.

>>23333608
A lot of kids can’t sit through a 20 minute episode without simultaneously playing vidya or browsing their phones, ADHD pacing doesn’t help when they’re not even taking in the content.

>>23333588
>>23333599
If you got no pattern recognition to realize the retards spamming then please refrain from joining discussions about them. Thank you.

I didn't like JJ Abrams Star Trek either, I'm not playing favorites.

Gundam is unironically supposed to be like George Lucas "It Rhymes"

Straight up forced call back insertion is tasteless trite

>>23333322 (OP)
Tourists that don’t understand the point of what this show is actually about. It was always meant to be an anniversary celebration series that came out a year late, so what if it’s referencing the original UC I honestly thought that’s great and completely caught me off guard. And another thing, turn A. They’ve been doing this for years, why are people mad now, is it because they think they’re trend chasing Spider-Man?

>>23333475
There's always been plenty of shitposting here, Duel has been on the board for over a decade almost uninterrupted, and it ticks up when you have shows that catch on with a wider audience or are controversial, and GQuuuuux is both.

>>23333546
>subhumans from reddit and twitter
>toxic positivity
That is a TWITTER phrase LMAO

>>23333541
>>23333625
if the website has gone in that direction for the past 9 years can they even be considered tourists anymore

>>23333989
>>23333322 (OP)
>I-i-i-it's suppose to be an anniversary celebration series so you can't criticize it

So were these

MCU has mindbroken retards despite multiverse fiction being older than most people using this board

>>23334082
If your timeline or universe needs to do multiverse bits then that means you think the setting you made can't stand on its own. This is true for man in the high castle and this show.

>>23334072
I still can't believe Seed Freedom doubled down on the UC wank

>>23333322 (OP)
>what if version of uc just means a bunch of references
the fans of this slop are actually handicapped huh?

>>23333322 (OP)

>>23334082
but how does a multiverse help the show tell compelling sci fi and war drama stories?
oh? it doesn't? you just wanna see familiar things shat out onto the screen? okay retard

>>23334057
>can they even be considered tourists anymore
Salient point, anon. You're not wrong, the soul of this website has changed, as the internet itself has. Nowadays there are more tourists than everyone else, and most of what little culture that existed here is gone. Internet's the same way.
I suppose I enjoy /m/ because it is one of the few places I can get honest discussion and avoid this, and for me watching this happen is like seeing it all over again. Sure it's just a website, who cares. But in a world of atomized social interaction where things are substantially worse than the 2000s when it comes to interaction, it's a shame to see one of the few places you called reliable go to shit. Guess it's what I deserve after leaving this board for years.

>>23334136
>>23334155
>>23334158
Bot posts.

>>23334167
anon please tell me what nation or entity has invented these self aware bots that exist just to be critical of media you like

>>23333989
Turn A is almost entirely stand-alone though. They don't even bother really talking about Newtypes outside of Gym mentioning Turn X's psycommu at one point. Spacenoid to Earthnood politics have nearly been turned on their head. The Borjanon, Kapool and Gallop could have been anything and served the same role as recovered old world mecha. Little references like Turn A and Turn X slamming their heads like Amuro and Char and Corin's cut aways convey the same message regardless of context. The contents of the Black History footage could easily be replaced with random generic war tragedies and glimpses of other civilizations.
There's nothing as absolutely integral to the story as understanding Lalah and Char's relationship, and their continued involvement in the story as active players. There aren't actual episode cliffhangers which depend on your existing emotional attachment to another series.

>bot recoils
Bingo.

>>23334158
Still didn't refute my point zoomie

Imagine if this was actually an alt-UC show with designs following the language of the titular Gundam instead of multiverse shit with designs that, aside from the feddie suits and the Gyan, are all ironic shitposts.

>>23334172
I think what anon meant is that gundam as a franchise is something that iterates on itself and has been doing so since its inception, people complaining about this one show trying to compare it to star wars and star trek for some bizarre reason should've been dismissed as /tv/ tourists from the start. I guess it shouldn't have been a surprise since the amount of people turning to anime after western entertaiment tanked itself meant that those same vitriolic reactions would now be performed towards anime.

>>23334180
The JJ Star Trek comparison is actually pretty apt, but it's not necessarily a criticism on its own.

>>23334180
Gundam IS anime Star Wars thoug. Down to the latest slop works.

>>23334177
the point being what? a shitty trope for lazy writers has existed for a long time so its good?

>>23334178
>dude like bro it's a shitpost xD
>ayo what were dey smoking amiright?
>lol bro this shit so weird ngl fr

>>23334185
>bro what if zaku had like fat thighs man xD
>bro what if goog was actually a gm xD
>bro what if braw bro was actually hiding a sticc xD

>>23333322 (OP)
>You all sucked off Unicorn
You don't speak for me, I got bored of Unicorn a episode in.

>>23334185
>average /a/ gwaldo "enjoyer"

>>23334082
A cliche being old just means people have always had shit taste.

>>23333322 (OP)
not a unicorn fan champ

>>23334182
>>23334183
Wow it's like I'm really on /v/.

>>23334082
and its always been shit lmao

>>23334198
What cliche???

>>23334082
>dick tracy vs the wolf man issue #4554 from 1930 means this horrible slop shit is acceptable
kill yourself moron

>>23334184
>>23334198
>>23334202
>>23334205
More bot posts.

>>23334180
Kind of crazy how people are choosing to analyze a Gundam 45th anniversary show that is intentionally establishing itself as a celebration of Gundam from the start via the same lens that would be used for Star Wars and Marvel. It's like those morons on Youtube who watch a single E;R spiel video and automatically assume they're perfect reviewers. And I say this thinking the show is rushed.
>>23334183
They are literally completely distinct creations that have different inspirations and entirely separate themes and concepts. Their similarities start and end with beam sabers and being impactful in their relevant country, with the nature of that impact also being massively different (both from cultural and economic differences as well as the fact that one was a auteur blockbuster movie whilst the other was a TV show meant to sell toys).

>>23334183
only in the sense that there's space battles and the bad guys sometimes have a big weapon
however in terms of how they have been ruined as more powers and expanded information is crammed into an existing time period then absolutely

>>23334207
please anon you must reveal who has these sentient AI's this is world changing news imagine if they militarized them rather than using them to make fun of a show you like

>>23334211
You forgot the lightsabers and blasters. Outside of IBO they're pretty much common weaponry

>>23334208
see
>>23334072

Can some one tell when the fuck did GQtrannies started using this excuse as if Gundam hasn't done this shit before or that it excuses it from being shit?

>>23334208
if it wanted to be a celebration of the 45th then it should have been closer in tone to 0079 and focused on the zeon victory and internal politics not clan battles and love triangles
if you disappoint the fans then youre celebration has failed, thats not something they can hide behind

>>23334207
Actual bot post

>>23334208
>Kind of crazy how people are choosing to analyze a Gundam 45th anniversary show that is intentionally establishing itself as a celebration of Gundam from the start via the same lens that would be used for Star Wars and Marvel.
So explain The Origin, SEED, 00, AGE, Zeta Define, Built Fighters etc.

>Bunch of posters start showing up simultaneously claiming to be elitist oldfags but also carrying a serious victim complex on their shoulders.
>They think /m/ has a consensus of liking Unicorn and don't have a problem with F91's pacing.
>They keep talking as if there's been a sudden tragic decline in /m/ board culture as if catalysts like G-witch and late IBO weren't even bigger shitpost fests than GQuuuuuux is currently.
What's the point of this weak facade? Who is it supposed to fool?

>>23334217
I dont doubt the beam guns and beam sabres are inspired by starwars weapons but laser weapons gun and melee did exist before starwars

>>23334219
You are not a fan though.

>>23334229
nice cope anon. are all the other people here critical of the show also not fans. maybe no ones ever been a gundam fan and its just you.

>>23334218
Did you even read my post? I'm not against GQ criticism, I'm actually critical of it myself. I'm against people dismissing it out of hand as "slop AI Disney multiverse garbage" instead of engaging with the actual material and using their noggin.
>when the fuck did GQtrannies started
ah I see you're a /v/tard
>>23334219
I actually agree with you, it's one of my major gripes of the show. I feel that the clan battle aspect while reminiscent of G Fighter and Build was ultimately shoved in and forgotten about. It'd have been better either as a separate concept or if the show had 24 episodes and more time to breathe. The Shuji subplot I don't mind as much, Newtype love bullshittery has been common since the literal original show.

>>23334205
>its ok when Ultraman, Kamen Rider, SRW do it but not muh Gendums
The MCU has broke your mind.
>Kill Yourself
Uno reverse

>>23334226
>self admitted shitposters from /a/ ruin any and all discussion surrounding a show
>people complain about it
>HURR DURR THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE
It's no wonder america is a bipartisan dystopia.

>>23334226
The shitposting feels less authentic this time. An autistic distinction to be sure but there's a difference between the tomatoposting versus this thread and others having bots and mainboard shitposters in them.
It's no tragedy though and this thread would be better off not existing desu I'll hand you a point for having a Turn A image there.

>>23334236
>American’s out of nowhere
Not an argument, discuss the show

>>23334234
Gundam is a much bigger shitposting target, you think these retards have seen anything besides [LATEST THING]? It's just a bunch of tourists trying to make this into shitposting season.

>>23334239
4 more years and then 4 more lol.

>>23334245
Discuss the show and restrain yourself

>>23334231
agreed it feels like they just threw stuff at the wall in hope of covering everything they wanted or making everyone happy but didn't pull it off
newtype love is fine but having her fall for a guy and then cry cause he talked to someone else doesn't feel like newtype higher consciousness and understanding it feels like a 12 year old with her first crush
>>23334234
>lets just slopify all media till they are indistinguishable
gundam isnt ultra man or kamen rider or a crossover video game anon. its gundam and it should remain distinct in terms of themes and tone

>>23334236
>america
I always could tell by your incoherent seething you are some kinda swarthoid or autistic eurocattle

TOURISTS GET OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

>>23334236
>>HURR DURR THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE
I don't know how you think your all caps strawman is supposed to make us forget what a hellhole the Yurifag vs. Oldfag shit flinging made this place just one Gundam TV series ago.
The heat from GQuuuuuux discussion has been room temperature at worst in comparison.

>>23334231
>I'm against people dismissing it out of hand as "slop AI Disney multiverse garbage"
Why? That's exactly what it is. Gundam has been doing this for years. You're just triggered because the slop you consume is no different from what comes out in the west

>>23334234
actual chris chan brain, just mash stuff you like together with no thought. why keep any series or story distinct

>>23334241
I Figured, which is why i came to laugh at them.
>>23334251
>Ultraman
>Kamen Rider
>slop
Kill yourself zoomie

>>23334236
Not always. Just an identifiable few years before this show started it's promotional campaign. Which makes it odd that certain posts are acting like the reception to Gqux specifically is some kind of unique moral failing on /m/'s part

>>23334231
people didn't mind build fighters because the tone and the expectation were tempered to what it was
UC now having copies of people from alternate dimensions showing up just cause is retarded

>>23334272
if you fused them all together for no reason yeah the product would be shit lmao. go back to playing with your toys anon then you can have anyone cross over with anyone and maybe batman will show up too hes cool right

>>23334269
>>23334276
>ultraman crossing into another ultraman universe is "mashing them together"
Tourist are retarded.

>>23334278
>dont worry guys it will stop here for sure
sloppification stops for no man anon, not even you

>>23334279
Kill yourself tourist

>>23334280
you project so hard calling everyone a tourist lmao stop outing yourself retard relax

>>23334281
>le projection
>Cries over the multiverse concept because some griftuber still crying about the zombie MCU told them to get mad despite other jap franchises doing it for years now even before the MCU.
Yeah sure ok.

>>23334272
>you like one piece of media and not literally all of them??? just consume product!!!!!
there's a place for people like you

>>23334290
This is where you came from, Go back

>>23334289
okay so other shows and series have done it before and that matters why? how does that improve the quality of gqux story or mech designs or characters motivations?
your entire argument once again is that all shows you like should just copy one another until there's no distinction between them and no story can ever end because some multiverse portal might pull someone into another show and this is somehow just a positive because its been done before and the actual execution of how its done doesn't matter and cant be criticized

>>23334290
>not liking one media = calling it slop
you don't even know what slop is you just parrot what you read online
read a book and learn to have opinions so you can hold a conversation beyond THING BASED or THING ASS
>>23334272
the people here claiming everything is slop and calling people triggered are either bots or so brainrotted as to be considered bots

>>23334302
The word "slop" in itself has become slop

>>23334293
That's not what he's saying at all, he's saying that it's dumb to reduce an entire concept of multiversal travel to buzzwords and then act as if it is legitimate criticism. If you think multiverse shit is lazy that's fine but just genuinely think about and review the piece of media or don't watch the show.

>>23334302
> hold a conversation beyond THING BASED or THING ASS
>MULTIVERSE BASED BECAUSE KAMEN RIDER
lmao even

>>23334315
Unironically proving anons point about being a Parrot

>>23334315
Dude why can't you even respond to someone like a functional poster, that's not what I said at all and you know it. Do you actually think this counts as any form of genuine social interaction, even as a form of trolling?

>>23334306
no one is doing that aside from people who just hate the show and want to argue. people are however trying to justify multiverse elements because other shows have had them in the past as if the fact its existed for a long time makes it immune to criticism

>>23334332
I think it would have been much better if they had made it a pure "what if" series instead of throwing in the multiverse and lalah stuff later down the line to justify something that would be better just left for the audience to accept as-is.

>>23334330
Actual NPC behavior, they probably think they aren't NPC's and everyone else is one because they form their own opinions on media rather than follow what Eceleb or some website told them to think.
>>23334332
Yeah but i think its silly to go "It has Multiverse therefore bad" when it comes to taking issue with media, its bound to happen in long running franchises.

>You all sucked off Unicorn
People on here have been shitting on the mystery box and SOREDEMO for over a decade by this point
>It was literally stated and marketed as a "what if" version of UC from the start.
>Agiain, it was advertised FROM THE START that this was a UC "what if" thing.
And?
>like there are actual flaws to the show
"N-n-no you have to criticise it according to my specific rules," fuck off to a Discord you big gay retard

>>23334332
I agree that criticism can be made of the multiverse shenanigans or the pacing or the suit design. I simply dislike discussion that devolves into calling what you dislike slop and not talking about why you dislike it.
Personally, I am fine with the multiverse aspects. I'm waiting for the final episode to make my conclusions, but so far the reveals have been interesting and I like the concept of Lalah's final moments leading to a sick recursive world in which her dying wish is made manifest. It reminds me of those semi-fictional theories about people dying getting a burst of dopamine before their brains expire and living infinitely in the moment before death.
>>23334348
It's my opinion that media discussion has taken a massive spiral in recent years. In the long ago past it was people dismissing it as nerd shit, honest if annoying. Now I have to deal with people who are totally definitely fans of Gundam and actually like stuff yet their "criticism" is just parroting buzzwords or pointing out every single negative thing about a show. It's a sickening mix of Joseph Anderson and TheCriticalDrinker

>>23333691
Duel has been here for over a decade. It's not a bot, retard.

>>23334359
>namedrop out nowhere
Trying to make the thread even worse?

>>23334346
Personally, I wouldn't like this show as if it was just a straight alternate universe. The setting is very underdeveloped because it focuses so much on Machu and Challia as deuteragonists. I don't mind as much that the politics of this alternate timeline are underdeveloped because this is a show that is more of a character drama than a political or war drama. I don't find the Zeon civil war thing all that interesting either when I knew from minute one what would happen, although the specifics of why Kycilia whacked Gihren were different from what I expected.

>>23334346
agreed, it feels like there's this trend that alternate takes on the same story need to literally exist and play out in parallel in some larger universe. and that if the characters develop the right technology they can teleport between them. its hard to articulate how this is different but imagine if you had a powerful enough interstellar telescope you could somehow see turn A from IBO. maybe im an outlier but thats always felt strange to me
>>23334348
I will say it very clearly right now. multiverse stories and stories that explore parallel dimensions are not inherently bad
>>23334357
agreed

>>23334361
It's Duel, a few of the times he got called out for spamming dead threads he went on his usual incoherent rants with his signature pics.

at the risk of sounding like a complete schizophrenic im almost certain that some anon was defending the show while acting like a spastic just to reply to his own posts calling the people who like the show retards and then someone critical of the show adapted the exact same tactic in reverse

>>23334363
>this is a show that is more of a character drama than a political or war drama
The problem with this is that the characters are also very underdeveloped.

>>23334366
>imagine if you had a powerful enough interstellar telescope you could somehow see turn A from IBO. maybe im an outlier but thats always felt strange to me

I agree with this criticism anon, but I'd like to point out that Gundam has a distinctly separate way of handling multiverses compared to say Marvel or DC.
I saw another anon put it more succinctly, but in essence Gundam has different universes that aren't afraid to radically change things while having some related themes and concepts. Turn A is not IBO which is not MSG. Contrast that with Marvel, where all the alternate Spidermans go through usually the same shit and are usually the same person so there is little reason to care besides multiverse shenanigans. Due to the latter I can see why people would be distasteful of a multiverse concept involving a separate show being involved in a new UC series. However, the SRW games manage to pull off cross-series interactions surprisingly well, and it seems that this show's entire theming is based around the UC and the positives and negatives of its influence/obsession so I'd advise withholding judgement until the end. I don't think they're trying to do a No Way Home here and just make the references shallow attempts at nostalgia (at least not entirely), there seems to be an actual message at hand. If they pull this shit again in another show then I'd be far more critical.

>>23334363
the characters are pretty bad as well. the character drama and their behaviour could have been informed by the setting to kill two birds with one stone so you cant hand wave it away

>>23334373
No. writing concept bad because social media told me to call it slop.

>>23334373
the closest way I could describe it is that gundam operates (sort of) like legend of Zelda though with less shared between different iterations of the hero / gundam series

>>23334366
>multiverse stories and stories that explore parallel dimensions are not inherently bad
Sure, but at this point they're overdone and very uninspired. Just doing a straight alternate history would've been more unique.

>>23334381
>at this point they're overdone and very uninspired
Said anon after watching Avengers.

>>23334379
anon people aren't coming here after watching the plinket reviews or something. I think you might be obsessed with retards on twitter to an unhealthy degree
>>23334381
at this point id like to see a science fiction story that realistically deals with how drastically that would change the human experience rather than just conveniently having the hero pop through a portal at the critical moment
PS: I have never watched a single marvel movie

>>23334385
If you think most of /m/ are retards from twitter you wouldn't be far off.

>>23334385
>people aren't coming here after watching the plinket reviews or something
How fucking naive you are >>23326404

>>23334393
holy fuck i stand corrected lmao

>>23334385
>I think you might be obsessed with retards on twitter to an unhealthy degree
There's a lot of that going around. It's just far easier to dismiss all people with contrary opinions to your own as being mouth-breathing bad-faith actors regurgitating insincere opinions, rather than actually articulate why you hold the opinions you do and why you disagree with someone else's. Saying they're all just hopelessly corrupted by [BAD WEBSITE] or [BAD E-CELEB] is the current approach to that

>>23334396
Even if that thread wasn't there, it's hard to ignore the damages that those three fat fucks have done to media discussion, it's not just them but in this website in particular they are very prominent. Hell they used to have fucking stealth generals on /tv/ every time a new video came out.

>>23334383
Spider-Man, not Avengers, kickstarted the multiverse craze that permeated many other franchises beyond Marvel. Avengers doesn't even have a multiverse film yet (though it will soon), you can't even get your irrelevant shitpost right.

>>23334397
there seems to be genuine fans of this series and people who are critical of this series going at it like if they dont convince other people here of their opinion there will never ever be a series like they enjoy again as if /m/ is bandais version of the nelson ratings and they just have both devolved into trying to annoy and spam the others

>>23334397
>no bro you can't just dismiss their opinion as being bad faith retards, you have to reply sincerely to the guy going SLOP SLOP JJ ABRAMS SLOP REDDIT TRANNY SLOP MEMEBERRIES SLOOOOP ANNO HACK ANNO GEORGE LUCAS SLOP

>>23334401
I like those goofy alcoholics when they stay stupid shit about b-movies me and my brothers used to watch
why anyone takes them seriously I have no fucking idea. media critique culture and video essays are genuine brain rot
>>23334402
it seems to comes in waves, Dracula vs Frankenstein or some shit comes to mind

>>23334072
The fact that GQfags went silent after these says a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09adYes4usw

People were cringing at this even back then

>>23334072
Noone said you couldnt criticize it, you just proved OPs point that this board makes up shit on the spot

>>23334406
Yeah, kind of. If you can't even answer really bad criticism, you don't stand a fucking chance

>>23334415
Fuck off and close the door.

>>23334414
>Noone said you couldnt criticize it
>>23333322 (OP)
>"too many references!"
>It was literally stated and marketed as a "what if" version of UC from the start.
>"Multiverse/Newtype shit!!!!"
>You all sucked off Unicorn and Zeta

>>23334406
>bro its okay cause cool robot fight
>bro its okay cause cool light sabre fight
thanks for proving SLOP brain is real and terminal

>>23334414
>Noone said you couldnt criticize it
That is the point OP's making though. 'It was literally advertised from the start!' therefore you shouldn't talk about it, because it's a 'literal non issue!' and the only people taking issue with it are all just using 'glup shitto' buzzwords and 'crying'.

>>23334396
That's what I've been getting at as well as the other posters, lmao
Trust me I'd rather people tear into the show if it was an honest hate that had substance. This is clearly the result of (for lack of a better term) brainrotted shitposters who consume the lowest forms of review commentary and don't actively form opinions.
>>23334397
To you I point to this anon's post >>23334393
it's one thing to hold an opinion and another to be a bad faith actor. I respect your willingness to bat for people who dislike a show and normally I agree that dismissing someone's view as insincere is both rude and unhelpful, but in this case it is warranted.
>>23334410
Did you ever watch Gred Glintstone's video on Elden Ring criticism? A completely unrelated tangent, I know, but it succinctly addresses your question. Much like how Joseph Anderson saw Matthewmatosis' video on DSII and aped it for legitimate industry critique, people see RLM's reviews and instead of taking them as the internet equivalent of humorous watercooler discussion they've assumed it is an actual valid style of criticism and is infallible. It pollutes discussion.

>>23334414
This entire thread is some autist being upset that people are comparing it to Disney and Marvel in fact all across the Internet a lot of Gundam fans are in straight up denial that thei is somehow different from what Star Wars and Star Trek is nowadays.

>>23333322 (OP)
trannime pedos are the only one defending this because muh bug eyed little girl makes me horny

>>23334417
Why don't you fuck off to someplace where you can block and filter people for disagreeing with you, gaylord?

>>23334410
>Dracula vs Frankenstein
That's just a simple crossover that treats the characters as being part of the same setting/universe, it's not a multiverse story.

>>23334356
Getting mad at a show that the only major change from UC is that amuro didnt get the gundam and it still has characters from the original series isnt a strong critisism, im pointing out that its a retarded thing to have several threads a day over.

>>23334425
brain rots and appropriate term
it reminds me of people who get suck a kick out of planning a project they never actually start. these people would rather get someone else's opinion that actually just consume the media, like what they like, and risk having an opinion not approved by the masses
>>23334430
yeah I suppose your right. its true that it doesn't literally have a wormhole between marry shelly to Bram stoker but it feels sorta similar

>>23334419
>>23334420
>>23334421
>>23334426
>>23334427
Bot posts.

>>23334433
esl lmao swarthoid or eurocattle call it

>>23334425
>it's one thing to hold an opinion and another to be a bad faith actor.
I'm not being funny, but if that's your threshold for bad faith you're really fucking hopeless. The whole
>I clapped
meme took root immediately because it was genuinely jut a very blunt (and, yeah, irreverent) way of getting across a growing point of frustration in these sorts of longrunning franchises. I mean, the actual point's right there at the end of the OP:
>DID YOU ANONS CLAP AT ANY NEW CHARACTERS OR MEMORABLE MOMENTS? I SURE CLAPPED WHEN THE ORIGINAL RX-78-2 GUNDAM APPEARED AND THE OLD MUSIC PLAYED!!
i.e. 'what is this new series doing that stands on its own merits?' You can say you don't like the OP's tone or whatever, but that doesn't mean the point's being made in bad faith. He's just using a fairly overdone meme to do it

>>23334425
that informal snarky style of just putting something down and mocking it became the smart intellectual smug way to address stuff so of course people conflated the two
good example is the critique of "evil is everywhere there are heroes on both sides" line in the opening scroll of one of the prequels. rather than them addressing how they felt George failed to have this nuance in the films they just said it was random nonsense that they totally couldn't understand and totally weren't operating with a bias
>>23334436
>>23334437
stop playing both sides for attention

>>23334446
rogue one isn't the prequels. as an OT purist I dont like what he did to the world but if you think he would have just copy pasted x-wings forever youre wrong

>>23334425
Hit it right on the nail, as famous as their prequel reviews were they wasn’t supposed to be taken seriously, yeah it’s pointing out flaws but they’re not supposed to be the absolute know all end all definitive opinions of the movies themselves. It’s like saying nostalgia critic’s reviews on rock a doddle do (random isn’t it) was taken for granite and some internet users definitively agreed that it was the worst animated movie of all time when in reality it’s just another one of don bluth’s ok films or AVGN’s review on the wizard of Oz SNES game was the worst game of that system when it’s just a mediocre licensed based game

>>23334454
Eh?

>>23334456
dont watch much YouTube but hasn't even the avgn said when hes not playing a character that he actually enjoys old games and has a lot of nostalgia for them
people took over the top caricatures way to seriously

>>23334456
>welcome back to the angry gundam guy today im talking about the original one you know the stupid story with love magic and a bunch of stupid little kids, yeah I fucking hate this
>20 years later
>bro no one ever liked gundam
many such cases

>>23334446
>>I clapped
>meme took root immediately because it was genuinely jut a very blunt (and, yeah, irreverent) way of getting across a growing point of frustration in these sorts of longrunning franchises. I mean, the actual point's right there at the end of the OP:
You have to be some kind of absolute fucking retard to compare what Disney did to what Khara is doing JUST because old characters and symbols show up, and that is exactly why people think you are arguing in bad faith, because of your unwillingness to consider that not everything fits your incredibly narrow worldview shaped by pop culture and criticism of said pop culture.

>>23334465
He did and agree, I think some of those reviews went over people’s heads on satire, yes some of the games are “bad” but not the worst thing ever made Except Superman 64, that game is irredeemable shite

>>23334478
did people think he was genuinely a guy who was just constantly seething and obsessing over a game he rented when he was 8? did they not get that if you actually think and behave that way youre a fucking loser

>>23334476
>You have to be some kind of absolute fucking retard to compare what Disney did to what Khara is doing JUST because old characters and symbols show up
You still have not brought up a single reason why what Khara is doing is better than what Disney did Mind you that every decision Khara did with the Rebuilds was met with tons of criticism yet somehow what they're doing with GQ is fine?

>>23334481
>did people think he was genuinely a guy who was just constantly seething and obsessing over a game
No.

>>23334476
>You have to be some kind of absolute fucking retard to compare what Disney did to what Khara is doing
Well... elaborate on that then, if it's so fucking obvious. You fucking sperg. When someone asks, "DID YOU ANONS CLAP AT ANY NEW CHARACTERS OR MEMORABLE MOMENTS?" fucking tell them which new characters and moments you think merit praise. "Oh, you have to be a retard to not already have my opinions!" and then you wonder why you're not getting the quality of discussion you fucking want
>that not everything fits your incredibly narrow worldview shaped by pop culture and criticism of said pop culture.
Is Gundam not pop culture?

>>23334476
great they aren't doing what Disney did now what? the shows shit

>>23334498
Then we go to the one criticism that sticks the most. These retards went for 12 episodes fucking up the pacing and story development.

This level of denial reminds me of how insecure 40k fags are when you say they're no different to capeshit fags
Enjoy your gulp shittos and clap like a seal for me

>>23334510
40k is the most retarded shit I have ever seen and for some reason those fags always claim its realistic as some kinda defence of their childish fantasy

>>23334491
>When someone asks, "DID YOU ANONS CLAP AT ANY NEW CHARACTERS OR MEMORABLE MOMENTS?"
Why should I engage with some loud obnoxious retard? Let alone humor them? Are you mad that no one wants to engage with you in discussion or something? Why do you keep pestering me to engage with people that don't put the slightest effort into anything?

>>23334509
There's not enough story in this to justify an episode count beyond 12 episodes if it were 24 episodes they would have wasted more time

>this is just like [POP CULTURE FRANCHISE] heh [OVERUSED /v/ and /tv/ MEMES] lmao
This is the people begging for you to discuss earnestly with them lol.

>>23334509
wow more evangelion style magical nonsense and clan battles, I would have clapped even more when [character] showed up for clanbat that would have been so hecking epic

>>23334447
>>23334456
Precisely, and I feel that this is what has led to an entire generation of people being unwilling to actually enjoy shit or not enjoy shit. Everything has to be objectively good or objectively bad, there is little room for discussion and any attempts to do so lead to ridicule.
And it's even more ridiculous because those same reviewers are often playing a role themselves and/or literally doing this shit for money, they're not actively critiquing so much as they're entertaining.
>>23334446
>i.e. 'what is this new series doing that stands on its own merits?'
Beyond a discussion on whether a series that bases itself on being a celebration of UC and Gundam as a whole, it is that exact phrase of
>I CLAPPED
that is the heart of the issue. It is a blunt way of getting a point across, but it is also a thought-terminating cliche. Rather than focusing on why the series is showcasing parts of UC, it rebukes every single instance of the original show's aspects appearing and offers nothing of substance as a response. Not everything boils down to nostalgic moment = Disney pandering and can be analyzed with such a wide lens, nor should media criticism devolve into people saying I CLAPPED or getting mad at people saying I CLAPPED. There are better ways of articulating your views, ways that involve nuance and actually using your fucking brain instead of comparing literally everything to Disney and slop.

I can talk about how I personally find the 'nostalgic elements' and what I think they're going for, if you'd like.

>>23334514
>Why should I engage with some loud obnoxious retard?
>Are you mad
>Why do you keep pestering me
Nigger, you're here posting on a messageboard about how it's some great imposition for you to have to talk to other people on a messageboard

>>23334514
if only there was a website where these bad actors had names and profiles and maybe you could even downvote them when they dare to disagree with the manufactured opinion

>>23334525
these same types despite their "media literacy" struggle to actually articulate why something let them down, they just repeat vague concepts that somehow prove the media hasn't lived up to some objective standard rather than it being a subjective art piece

>>23334525
>It is a blunt way of getting a point across, but it is also a thought-terminating cliche
If it's communicating a point, it is a priori not thought-terminating. It is communicating the argument to you, for you to then think about and decide if you agree or not. Which is why the thing literally fucking ends by challenging the reader to come up with examples of the new show's merits
Again, it's loud and blunt, but it's making a fucking point
> Not everything boils down to nostalgic moment = Disney pandering and can be analyzed with such a wide lens
Okay. But is does the point fit in *this* example? Of course it doesn't apply to everything, no meme ever would, but you're making a category error in treating 'it doesn't apply to everything' as 'it should never be applied'
>Not everything boils down to nostalgic moment = Disney pandering
Yeah, good. So like, fucking talk about that in the context of GQuuux?

>>23334420
>you can't form your own opinion, my youtuber told me forming your own opinion is consooming
Actual NPC speak

>still criminals
>might go looking for Shuji.
>Nothing was resolved

>>23334580
What a nothing

>>23333322 (OP)
>It was literally stated and marketed as a "what if" version of UC from the start.
And at what point did that mean we needed the braw bro to be randomly drawn out of a hat for which machines would get renamed to be a stand-in for a MS from a cancelled draft of 0079's finale?
>You all sucked off Unicorn and Zeta, and we have threads almost every fuckin day asking what happened in the end of CCA.
Not one of these hinted that newtype power could open portals to the multiverse. Even at Unicorn or Narrative's worst, that was never implied to be an option on the table.

It's sad that the franchise I once considered a bastion of quality has sunk so low. Yes, there have been bad Gundam shows for a long time, but none of them ever felt as awful as this.
SEED, for all its faults, embraced being a cool robot show and at least we got some cool designs and melodramatic moments from it.
00 was a product of its time. The first season was an apology for Destiny, while the second season was an attempt to get more in line with Gundam tropes and the movie was a big dumb light show. It was bad, yes, but only because in its process of trying to please gunota, it went too tryhard and comes off as insincere.
Unicorn and Narrative were awful, but they at least had great designs and cool references, and they tried to imitate the old UC shows sufficiently enough.
AGE was a kids' show, so I can't be too harsh on it. Same for Build Divers. I wish AGE was more successful at getting kids into Gundam, but oh well.
IBO was bad because, much like 00, it tried too hard to look incredibly streetsmart and worldwise, but instead it came off like the ramblings of a 15-year-old.
G-Witch was a 24-episode slice-of-life show that tried to chase concurrent anime trends and was only really successful among certain Western fans. It was a weird thing, but at least something we hoped we could leave behind.
This, however? It's easily the worst Gundam show ever made. There is no attempt at any story that matters, the characters are totally undeveloped, and the whole thing is basically Khara staff throwing together all their ideas in hopes that they'll attract everyone all at once. It's got slice of life for G-Witch fans, it's an alt timeline for the older fans, and it culminates in something entirely intended to keep older fans talking online and get the newer fans watching the old shows. It's the most cynical and corporate Gundam has ever gotten.
As for the board? Trainwrecks are /m/ culture, but Aldnoah.Zero didn't have this many ardent defenders back in the day.

SEED is Honest Mecha
GQuX is Dishonest Mecha

IBO is Yakuza mecha.
00 is somewhat honest mecha but tells white lies from time to time.
AGE is level 5's blunder and should have been cut down to two generations.

>>23334684
Aldnoah did have the star power of being helmed by two Auteurs who everyone forgot were past their prime (It had Urobuchi but that guy wasn't anywhere as big and it was well known he was only involved with the first episodes) Aldnoah Zero also couldn't piggyback off of being a mainline entry of a giant franchise. Both of these explain why it's defenders have such a presence

>>23334678
GQuX makes me appreciate Unicorn more
The main characters were a little stiff and the retcons were bad, no contest there, but the people behind it strung along the references very well without devolving into meta commentary, very few elements seem wasted in the end. Banagher despite being a block of wood still felt like he was actually at the centre of his story and didn't often sit placid while someone gave him a lecture about the one year war.
Overall, I would describe Unicorn as being Moderately Honest Mecha

>>23334692
If Aldnoah came out today, it would have been one of those hyped up Crunchyroll originals on Toonami that ends up forgotten immediately after it airs. This is another show for tourists and secondaries, but they're going to be here to stay since there's a whole franchise to explore.

>>23333322 (OP)
This might be a stupid question, but...The 'guns on the ends of cables' things Challia Bull uses seem to be more advanced and deadly than 90% of every other weapon out there, other than the G-Fred's ear-drones.
But how does he keep the cables from getting tangled up? Like, sure they're moving aggressively and all that, but there's only so much space they can cover before they overlap.
Don't they ever snag on things, or shit like that?

>>23333322 (OP)
>Agiain, it was advertised FROM THE START that this was a UC "what if" thing
Those were leaks you retard, they didn't say anything about the setting until the JP release of Beginning.

>was a UC "what if" thing
and i was fine with that. i enjoyed seeing the alternate history where zeon wins. It ceased to be a "what if" thing when the original Lalah showed up in the motherfucking elmeth. And now we have the ending of the latest episode implying that somehow this involves whatever happens to UC Char and Amuro after Axis Shock.

Nobody wants to know what happened to them, Axis shock is supposed to be a miraculous phoenomenon that gives humanity a chance for redemption right before the axis drop becomes a "point of no return" and ruins earth forever. this second chance is promptly squandered according to unicorn, but TBF even tomino had everything going to shit in less than 30 years for F91 so i can forgive unicorn for that.

If we DID get an answer for "whatever happened to char and amuro after CCA", it ought to be something more original than just respawning them in an alternate timeline where they fight over the same dumb shit while lalah fingers herself.

>>23334739
Honestly I'm just glad it wasn't another yuri series
This is something of a genre throwback, and I'm rather liking it.

>>23334735
those have been part of UC from the start. It's never explained how that works but IIRC some of the promo stuff for unicorn or narrative established that there are these little thruster units at regular intervals along the cable that can anchor it and undo tangles while it rewinds.

Wire-guided drones exist IRL BTW, because it's too easy to jam radios but the only way to jam a fiber-optic cable is to send a guy out with a pair of wirecutters. Generally they put the spool on the drone instead of at the base so even if the cable gets caught on something it doesn't snag because the drone keeps unspooling as it moves. I don't think they try rewinding the wire though, I think they just leave it behind and replace the spool every time it launches.

>>23334743
I mean, I get that he's a Newtype, but how does being a Newtype make him really good at using the cable-drones?

>>23334746
Might be a thing programmed into them so that they dont tangle. Like the incoms (wired weapons you mentioned) have an advanced system so that they can manuever where the pilot wants without running into each other and also calculate where to move if the pilot is moving too

>>23334537
Essentially. It's an unwillingness to honestly engage with both the material and other people.
>>23334546
>If it's communicating a point, it is a priori not thought-terminating.

I meant it in regards to how the term just shuts down any honest argumentation: it's not analyzing why something was done or using evidence to justify it, it's just immediately shutting down the argument. I fail to see how that sort of discussion in any way opens up the reader to come up with the show's merits rather than immediately dismissing the person as a shitposter. It'd be like a lawyer sarcastically repeating a witness' alibi in court to imply that it's bullshit: sure he's making his point of doubt known but he's not actually explaining anything or even expanding on his opinion beyond a base level of "I disagree".

>but you're making a category error in treating 'it doesn't apply to everything' as 'it should never be applied'

I suppose I can concede that. If all someone wants to do is voice their grievance with a particular usage of nostalgia baiting then the term is useful as a means to immediately communicate that. My problem with it is that people use that way too much even when it is arguably not applicable, and more importantly that such crude mannerisms do not infact "challenge the reader" but just piss people off. The people who say that shit aren't being laconic in expression, they are parroting it because they often are unable to articulate their grievances with the work beyond buzzwords or even defend their view.

cont.

>>23334779
>Yeah, good. So like, fucking talk about that in the context of GQuuux?
I'm still waiting on episode 12 for my final judgement but I don't think that the usage of previous UC material is inherently wrong. I like the redesigns from an aesthetic point of view at the very least. Of course, the main nostalgic moments are really what's been happening with Lalah and the Zeknova stuff, so while I have stated I find the idea of Lalah forming a mental universe interesting from a metaphysical viewpoint, I can't make my full judgement until the show ends.

Overall, I think the new UC designs and homages are rendered with care, and the show is actively doing more with characters like Kycilia and Challia which I appreciate. The alternate setting is engaging without the multiverse shit and I like where it's going with the whole "paying homage to the UC's immense shadow versus being trapped by it" which the show is going for. IMO it is selling that angle well: the setting's iconic mobile suits are being used for cheap battles among populations that feel apathetic, Challia is working against both Gihren and Kycilia out of a desire to free Newtypes, and Char even says a one sided love can feel suffocating IIRC. It seems to me that, despite the clear affection towards the original Tomino run that the show has, it's sending a message of not getting obsessed with it and letting it dominate the rest of Gundam. The universe itself is a stagnant one where people have few new ideas and aspirations, and I feel that they're trying to do a metacommentary on UC's ubiquity in Gundam, the good and bad.
If it doesn't stick the landing or you disagree that's fine, but I don't see the usage of UC or even the clear multiversal stuff as soulless garbage. To me, they're not riffing on the original work with disdain (I mean look at their near shot for shot recreation of MSG's first episode sequence) nor are they just piggybacking on it to avoid any actual substantial ideas.

>>23334678
>you can see dead peoples souls and talk to them
> can generate i fields strong enough to move large celestial bodies and travel through time
>somehow portal through the multiverse is where this board draws the line
This board reaches so hard and its not even funny anymore

>>23334783
There's been tons of complaining about that Unicorn shit for years though?

I dont hate gquuuuuuux or anything but fuck me youre an autistic retard if youre defence of the show boils down to "you dont like literally everything with a robot in it youre a tourist!!!!!!!"

>>23333322 (OP)
>Whats wrong with this board?
You think it's doing better elsewhere? The Japanese fucking hate it now.

>>23334779
the other people part is huge its always just snarky defensive bullshit. even if what you like is bad by some metric whats the issue with that? you cant like goofy stuff or appreciate the good parts of something that was done earnestly but ended up flawed
everything's gotta be edgy or snarky for them to feel safe in supporting it

>>23334942
those japs are fake fans, bots, TOURISTS, IM THE ONLY REAL GUNDAM FANS YOURE ALL AI

>>23334942

>>23334951
Glad to see our fellows overseas are becoming wary of Dishonest Gundam

>>23334942
>>23334951
lmao even

I really like GQuuuuux. I wish it was longer too, and agree with that criticism and that the characters could be fleshed out more but I am enjoying it a lot. It feels like everything was as normal as /m/ gets until last week.

I'll need to see the finale to give a better judgement but do like what we've seen of the characters so far even if some aren't fleshed out like I said. The atmosphere and art style and music are all great. The clash between UC and new aesthetics is really exciting. Nothing ever feels like it doesn't belong to me somehow (until Elmeth and Rx78 showed up of course) The main characters mecha can be weird but they grew on me and the grunts and ships are amazing. I liked the first part a lot with the clan battles and shit too especially Shiiko. It has this real laid back but realistic daily life feel to it while being weird out there and extremely UC at times. And true to life in the sense there's a dozens of political conflicts going on under the surface of mundane life, social tension and teenagers are still stupid and growing up is hard and each generation seems to fail the next. I love the second part of the show but it has pacing issues and feels rushed. It just seems like something happened behind the scenes but oh well. The parallel universe (I have no idea why people are calling it a multiverse story when only two universes are crossing over) is always a fun scifi concept, like the Mirror Universe in Star Trek. Which is actually why I love it so much. And I love when parallel universes are used as a metaphor for the idea that out there is a life that you wanted and it's almost like you're dreaming. I was going to give more examples of parallel universe stories I like but Idont even know if anyone here has even
watched Star Trek anymore because the userbase here doesn't even feel 1st language english anymore or above 30 l


It makes me want to go rewatch FLCL and Diebuster and 0079 again.

>>23334783
>travel through time
See, that was never actually true until Narrative, prior to that it wasn't much more than visions or tricks of the mind via psycowaves. And I never said I didn't have a problem with Narrative.
>>somehow portal through the multiverse is where this board draws the line
Yeah, because there is such a thing as too much. Being able to lightly manipulate time for an object or barely stop an asteroid is a lot lower on the power scale than tearing apart time and space to exchange people or space stations from different places and points in another space and time.

It's just mid man. It tries to do so many things at once but it's at least a fun live watch. Can't say I'd be happy if I watched it all at once though like years down the line but this is hilarious watching it with the chan.

>>23334993
>See, that was never actually true

It was though. All the machines the Unicorn broke down with Newtype powers effecting time happened in well, Unicorn. They just spelled it out Narraritive.

>>23334993
Honestly, I thought Amuro moving Axis is basically the end of an era. Like, the story of Newtypes is basically at an end at that point: Amuro (and Char) have shown the world what absolute peak Newtype can accomplish, and the universe has been changed forever by that impossible, one-shot miracle.
Continuing from there, with Unicorn's increasingly absurd feats, feels besides the point.

Too many duelcoded posts latey

>>23335004
It literally just looks like machine parts being torn apart with ESP without the Narrative scene breaking it down.

>>23334783
This is how I know this is some weird discord group making these posts, how the fuck did you people not know /m/ strongly criticized Unicorn and flat out hated Narrative?

>>23335016
Anon stop, for the sake of your sanity. Calling posts "insert name here coded" is literal lebbit/twatter terminology and is part of the reason the board is in shambles. You're not looking smart, it's just lunacy. Please, dude.

>>23335028
I actually thought the same but when I went back and watched it I realized I was sadly mistaken and the ending was supposed to be more literal. I didn't like Unicorn or Narratives Newtype Bullshit but I dont have a problem with GQxs for some reason and I can't even explain why. Maybe because GQ while being literal feels metaphorical? I have no idea.

at the risk of being called a spammer once again. I believe this show would have been much better if it was more focused with a single character being the outsider voice of the audience navigating the world of a zeon victory

>>23335047
The easiest way to troll a board and set your own narrative is to just repeat "erm you all liked drinking peepee but now poopoo is too far?!?". You'll eventually trick some newfags into thinking it.

>>23335047
its weirdos from /a/ and this isn't speculation because this idiots constantly rant about how other people from /a/ have followed them here and are ruining their narrative when people disagree with them
they want gundvangelion to be a real thing so bad for whatever reason that they just spam non stop about how much they wanna fuck the characters or how cool the humanoid musculature on the gundam is and when people confront them they flip out like autistic retards
fucking sad

>>23335047
>and flat out hated Narrative?
No it didnt. I was a narrative hater back when it came out and I was part of a tiny minority.

>>23335004
Read the full sentence, retard.

>>23335251
Read your obituary because I'm coming for you bitch

Where are the storyboard leaks? Is season 2 confirmed?

>>23334580
Its over. A lot of people on the audience look pissed

>>23335342
>>>/a/279870839

>>23335245
A lot of people were indifferent to it.

>>23335342
No neither season 2 or a movie was confirmed. The leaked storyboards are at your own risk. They don't reveal much. Most of the leaks revolve around the fight and only the last one is some out of context scene at the beach.

>>23334366
Yeah, ideally they should've just went with "hey stuff is gonna play out differently to mainline UC" and stopped there without delving into any whys or whos. Just a little nod that somethings changed and let it play out rather than keep going back and poking at it.

the show is just bad OP-kun. you are allowed to like it, but we both know you'll disappear a week after the last ep airs

>>23333322 (OP)
The simple answer is witch ruined the board, it brought in a bunch of retards who will only ever like witch and will constantly shitpost anything else.

>>23341591
>pretending you are a regular here
Go back to /a/.

>>23341608
GQuuuuuuX is the show most similar to GWitch in this franchise so far.
>>23341610
Stop projecting, anon.

>>23341705
>GQuuuuuuX is the show most similar to GWitch in this franchise so far.
If anything it's the total inverse. The only similarity is female MC, and even that is flipped around with how it's handled.

Tomorrow will expose this as being the most Dishonest Gundam show ever. I wonder how long the novelty of another Gundam finale and all the references will last before the masses awaken to how deceitful it was

>>23333322 (OP)
I just discovered this place exists.
Don't mind me

>>23341760
>retarded female MC mainly driven by their love interest
>moeshit character designs that entice current day teenagers, filthy otaku and western Xitter users
>trash modern pop songs
>MS duels
>overgreebled Gundams
>vapid references to OG Gundam
>rushed story with not enough episodes to properly explore their setting because the modern anime audience doesn't bother to watch anything with an episode count higher than 24
GBitch and GCuuuuuucks are cut from the same cloth.

>>23341790
People will complain about the -lack- of fanservice when it turns out Amuro isn't piloting the Gundam for some dumb reason. But if they've gone this far, it really should be Amuro there. Give something else to Shuji.

>>23341591
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>>23341802
Bot posts.

>>23341806
The storyboard leaks show no Amuro, the OG RX-78-2 is gigantic, like Psycho Gundam size or bigger, Shuji is seemingly not piloting it either.

>>23341802
Keep telling yourself that. It won't make it true. Gcucks is a loveletter to long time fans while witch was an attempt to make gundam for people who don't like gundam. Don't get me wrong, gcucks has it's issues of course but in terms of what they are trying to be it's total opposites.