Thread 23365191 - /m/

Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:00:16 AM No.23365191
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The fact that they tried to pull the "actually some Martians are good people and this is a very nuanced conflict" after the first episode literally ends with them all landing in the middle of a bunch of earth cities with no care for the civilians there and literally incinerating people with the shockwave from their ships landing, is still one of the most embarrassing things I have ever seen in a mecha anime. Fucking mustache twirling villains that act like royalty while eating TV dinners.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:28:37 AM No.23365247
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>>23365191 (OP)
The fact that they tried to pull the "actually some Zeon are good people and this is a very nuanced conflict" after the first episode literally opens with them all landing a colony on Australia indirectly wiping out a bunch of earth cities with no care for the civilians there and literally incinerating people with the shockwave from their colony landing, is still one of the most embarrassing things I have ever seen in a mecha anime. Fucking mustache twirling villains that act like royalty while eating TV dinners.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:44:06 AM No.23365271
>>23365191 (OP)
>>23365247
Now let's talk about Vagans.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:01:45 AM No.23365288
>>23365271
>Kio says that Ezelcan't isn't so bad
>Ezelcant proceeds to give Hitler speeches about eugenics and the X-Rounder master race ubermensch breesing plan
Peak comedy.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:03:38 AM No.23365291
Mustache twirling villains are at least supposed to be fun, but nobody in this show is enough of a character to even be as fun as Megatron or Cobra Commander.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:06:01 AM No.23365293
>>23365191 (OP)
>Be Mars
>Have a magic Aldnoah Drive that perfectly clones everything attached to it
>Have absolutely selfless chad of a pilot who has zero problems creating multiple of himself, with no hierarchy over who is the "Prime"
>Have water shortage
>Put this guy on the front lines in a retarded melee unit instead of hooking it up to a tank of water and exponentially increasing the water supply, fertile soil supply, martian prostitute supply, etc
This show had already jumped the shark by bringing Inaho back, but this took the cake.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:15:02 AM No.23365305
This is fine
This is fine
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:28:39 AM No.23365324
>>23365305
I don't think a map like this is even physically possible, it's like they drew it based on what they thought would look cool without considering the elevation of the affected areas. Which is ironic in a series that presented itself as being hard sci-fi.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:34:19 AM No.23365330
>>23365324
Someone post the hyperbolic "no detail has been ignored" promo blurb for this shit.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:36:09 AM No.23365332
>>23365191 (OP)
If these guys were pure evil villains, I'd at least have had fun with watching A.Z, but nah, let's go with the discount Zabi family.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:46:31 AM No.23365342
>>23365332
Is the Zabi family not pure evil?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:58:21 AM No.23365356
>>23365191 (OP)
>>23365293
>>23365332
>>23365330
The part that annoys me the most is that we never get a glimpse of how life actually is on Mars for the average individual. We're told it's a miserable existence under the Vers monarchy, but we never actually see it. And no, the thing with Slaine doesn't make a good job out of it.
They don't even seem to have a regular armed force outside of the Aldnoah-powered nobility.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:59:37 AM No.23365360
>>23365191 (OP)
I'm still seething about Season 2.
I really had hopes the show would turnaround into being great.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:01:35 AM No.23365365
>>23365360
In retrospect I don't even know why I thought it would turn around. It was the same writers who had disappointed me with S1, a couple good Slaine episodes wasn't suddenly gonna make them good at writing.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:09:07 AM No.23365383
>>23365365
Late S1 did sort of seem like they'd figured out what they actually wanted the show to be, so I can understand some hope. My own expectations were positive but more... measured, especially after they killed off Sho Hayami's character right as he became interesting (presumably just for shock value).
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:46:09 AM No.23365413
>The Martian pilot is skilled. However, he failed to account for the fact that his machine is composed of matter. And matter... has mass.
>Inaho sugoi!!
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:37:01 AM No.23365488
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>>23365191 (OP)
>Fucking mustache twirling villains that act like royalty while eating TV dinners
I still cheered them on - Inaho was just THAT insufferable.

>>23365247
kek

>>23365305
>all of Brazil gone
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:42:32 AM No.23365492
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>>23365360
>>23365365
Why are writers so allergic to killing main cast? Everybody-dies endings are not solely a Tomino thing - was there much uproar at Basilisk's finale? Doubt it.

>>23365383
>Sho Hayami's character
I don't mourn the pedo count. It's Saazbaum who got killed for no reason, because incorporating him into the story further exceeded the writer's intellectual capacity.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:44:26 AM No.23365493
>>23365191 (OP)
>The son of one of the most despicable anti-Earth Martians, whose only virtue is his loyalty to the princess, turns out to be a conveniently good and reasonable Kira Yamato guy just to give the princess a chance to win with two episodes to go.

yeah... sure. I admire their courage to stage something like this and think it's not ridiculous.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:52:18 AM No.23365505
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>>23365493
The entire S2 was ridiculous (Inaho, Asshime surviving, Inaho getting a cyberpunk upgrade, every Earthoid who isn't Inaho being relegated to an NPC) - might as well go all out I guess.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:05:25 PM No.23365615
>>23365293
Are we still hung up on the quantum superposition machine doing quantum superposition things?
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:24:47 PM No.23365630
>>23365288
Hold up, maybe the vegans aren't actually so bad.....
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:26:37 PM No.23365632
>>23365342
Garma is a good boy who honestly feels out of place. Dozle isn't really that evil either.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:17:51 PM No.23365747
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>>23365330
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:35:22 PM No.23365765
>>23365747
>world-building where no detail has been overlooked
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:48:31 PM No.23365784
>>23365747
Plums
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:56:23 PM No.23365789
>>23365288
>>23365630
He also calls X-Rounders a regression of humanity, which is proven right since almost every X-Rounder in the show is violent and/or insane
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:03:51 PM No.23365798
>>23365288
Kio never said that Ezelcant wasn't bad, he rebuked him in the last episode
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:17:36 PM No.23365806
>>23365798
Yeah, it's funny how AGE was seen as a "Gundam for children" and yet the majority of /m/ was still incapable of understanding the events of the series.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:05:59 PM No.23365867
>>23365505
Cyberpunk does cut close. I was stunned when that fucker started shooting at things in space. Absolutely Gary Stu cardboard personality fucker.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:56:57 PM No.23365927
>>23365505
It's funny that despite all of the bullshit the Martian mechs can pull, Inaho's eye was probably the most overpowered thing in the show. The show only halfassedly adding a drawback to the eye at pretty much the end was hysterical too.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 5:08:55 PM No.23365942
Wasn't a special episode supposed to come out? What happened to that?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 5:57:25 PM No.23366030
>>23365505
At least the all-seeing DEM bullshit robot eye made his Gary Stu status SLIGHTLY more justified. The dude did literally EVERYTHING in battle for the Earth side from the very start of the series, while everyone else was at best a meat shield waiting for him to swoop in
Usually when it's a one-man army situation like that there's some chosen one or newtype magic or a suit that is years ahead technologically to make it make sense, but no this was just a random autist in the weakest possible mech
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:47:22 AM No.23366851
>>23365324
>Washington and Oregon, where most of the land shoots up 300 to 600feet within a mile of the coast, are both completely underwater.
>Florida, where the highest point of land in the state is a landfill, is completely fine.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 4:02:46 AM No.23366871
>S2 could've been salvaged by Lemrina picking Slaine's side and prolonging the war which now escalates into a blood feud between her and Asseylum.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 4:12:49 AM No.23366879
>>23365305
Not even the height of the Hadean Era was this bad.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:36:25 AM No.23367212
>>23365942
You mean the compilation film with the extra scene?
>https://myanimelist.net/anime/60666/AldnoahZero_Re_
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:56:39 AM No.23367232
>>23367212
Ah fuck, of course this series gets resurrected from the dead after 10 years.
...Maybe I'll watch this though? The show had a shitload of wasted time, maybe it works better as a movie.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:13:38 AM No.23367317
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I was looking for a fight scene to respond to another post but I came across this on YouTube and will now post it here:
https://youtu.be/fQMDkGduUys?si=0128t3U1Er29sTvb
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:14:42 AM No.23367318
>>23366851
I assume that there's a giant fucking crater where the PNW used to be. It's round.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:21:10 AM No.23367326
>>23365342
They were, but not in the same way as someone like Dr. Hell is. At least to me, there's a difference between someone like Gihren Zabi, who plans killing off his family members and is basically your stand in for extreme politician and there world views while Dr. Hell is far more of the horrible but entertaining super villain type. Plus, there are Zabi like Garma and Dozzle, who I think are less evil and more just going along with what their smarter siblings have chosen to do.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:24:59 AM No.23367328
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>>23365191 (OP)
>>23365247
>>23365271
Life imitates art.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:31:34 AM No.23367333
>>23365342
Only Gihren and Kycillia were pure evil. Degwin was an opportunist but not pure evil since he eventually came to realize his fuck ups.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:33:10 AM No.23367335
>>23367333
Dozle gassed and dropped a colony. He seems much worse than Kycillia.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:27:19 PM No.23367490
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>>23367328
>First time?
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 11:57:49 PM No.23368224
>>23367335
>dozle performs justified military actions
>this is worse than kycillia wanting to straight up black hole the earth
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:11:46 AM No.23369584
>>23367326
And Dr. Hell's name is literally Dr. Hell. It's not like it's some big surprise that he's evil.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:52:33 PM No.23370976
>>23368224
>justified military actions
Gassing colonies full of civilians cannot be considered "justified" under any reasonable measure.

>>23367328
Not the same thing. Slovakia's rulers are bought and paid by the Kremlin, same as Hungary.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:05:29 PM No.23371002
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>>23366851
>Florida, where the highest point of land in the state is a landfill
False.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugarloaf_Mountain_(Florida)
In any case, it's funny that Florida Man calls a tiny promontory less than a hundred meters tall a "mountain".
>In comparison, Miami's Panorama Tower skyscraper reaches to 861 feet (262 meters) above mean sea level.
Even the SLS is a few meters taller than that.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:08:38 PM No.23371005
>>23365293
The biggest problem is their mecha designs.

I have rocket punches and nothing else.
I can za hando everything and nothing else.
I can freeze everything and nothing else.
I can clone myself and nothing else.
I have fin funnels and nothing else.

Like, where the fuck's the contingency plans when your shtick fails?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:25:38 AM No.23371143
>>23371005
They're basically just MotWs so there's no need for a plan B, they exist so eggs can look cool.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:29:18 AM No.23371153
>>23365247
0079 never did that. You at best got a few honorable warrior types like Ral but they commit wholly to being the baddies.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:47:05 AM No.23371187
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>>23371143
>>23371005
>>23365293
โ€”Did you have any suggestions for the general direction of the work as a whole?
>Very roughly speaking, the initial concept was a โ€œMonster Hunterโ€-like battle in which weak robots from the earth would fight strong robots from Mars. However, if we continued with that concept for each episode, it would become increasingly difficult, so we decided that we wanted to come up with something more than just "a strong enemy every time". At that time, the director said that they wanted to win not with guts, but by building on logic. He said that he did not want to make plays that are won by momentum and spirit, or by the person who shouts the loudest. To give you a specific name, we wanted to take the direction of โ€œJoJo's Bizarre Adventureโ€ and have fun with its plot devices.
>When I began to think about this, it occurred to me that the first enemy, the Nilokeras's barrier, is a super weapon that even the U.S. military does not have, so I thought to myself, "This is a super robot, isn't it?". Then I thought, "How about attaching super-robot weapons to the Martian robots, which the current earth's military does not have? Then Atsuhiro Iwakami, the producer, came up with the idea, โ€œHow about an anime that fights against 50 years of robot animation (counting from โ€Astro Boy)?". From there, the concept of โ€œsuper robots vs. real robotsโ€ was born.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:24:41 AM No.23371261
Just watched the OVA. It's a complete waste of time and only made for the residual (female) audience that's still interested in the character drama.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:50:49 AM No.23371306
>>23371153
No they definitely wanted you to empathize with some zeeks like Doan or those randos from episode 14
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:49:58 AM No.23371420
>>23371261
Pretty much. It's clueless in that they doubled down on the Klancain/Asseylum marriage by saying that Inaho never even met her again.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:09:38 AM No.23371549
>>23371420
I mean by then Asshime established herself as such a bitch that anyone ending up with her would be a punishment. It's too the point that a homo ending if better than being with Asshime.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:42:53 AM No.23371736
>>23371005
It almost works in the sense that every single Martian character was ridiculously arrogant so you can realistically imagine them thinking "I don't need anything else because no one will ever beat me." But as >>23365356
said the Mars culture was woefully underdeveloped so we don't have a good justification for why they act the way they do.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:55:58 AM No.23371760
>>23371736
>every single Martian character was ridiculously arrogant so you can realistically imagine them thinking "I don't need anything else because no one will ever beat me."
That part kinda works because they're nobility imbued with supernatural powers. Some characters like Saazbaum are decent enough, with their own motivations.
The problem is that the Orbital Knights as a whole are floating in a void. You need some context for the characters to act the way the do. And the short timeframe (the first migration to Mars took place in 1980!) doesn't help matters.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:02:11 AM No.23371776
>>23371736
If you can't actually write a clever takedown just have them stomp around blindly shouting about how everyone else is insects until they obviously fuck up and say "oh no, hubris, my one weakness, aiiieeeee!"
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:49:49 AM No.23371934
>>23371187
My answer is pasta:

Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men is a smartly written smart character. When Chigurh kills a hotel room full of three people he books to room next door so he can examine it, finding which walls he can shoot through, where the light switch is, what sort of cover is there etc. This is a smart thing to do because Chigurh is a smart person who is written by another smart person who understands how smart people think.
Were Sherlock Holmes to kill a hotel room full of three people. He'd enter using a secret door in the hotel that he read about in a book ten years ago. He'd throw peanuts at one guy causing him to go into anaphylactic shock, as he had deduced from a dartboard with a picture of George Washington carver on it pinned to the wall that the man had a severe peanut allergy. The second man would then kill himself just according to plan as Sherlock had earlier deduced that him and the first man were homosexual lovers who couldn't live without eachother due to a faint scent of penis on each man's breath and a slight dilation of their pupils whenever they looked at each other. As for the third man, why Sherlock doesn't kill him at all. The third man removes his sunglasses and wig to reveal he actually WAS Sherlock the entire time. But Sherlock just entered through the Secret door and killed two people, how can there be two of him? The first Sherlock removes his mask to reveal he's actually Moriarty attempting to frame Sherlock for two murders. Sherlock however anticipated this, the two dead men stand up, they're undercover police officers, it was all a ruse. "But Sherlock!" Moriarty cries "That police officer blew his own head off, look at it, there's skull fragments on the wall, how is he fine now? How did you fake that?". Sherlock just winks at the screen, the end.

This is retarded because Sherlock is a smart person written by a stupid person to whom smart people are indistinguishable from wizards.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:00:33 PM No.23372622
>>23371934
This was definitely written by some redditor who has only watched the RDJ movies (and maybe one of the gay shows). Not that the original stories were works of high art or anything.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:33:28 AM No.23373240
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>>23372622
>context
That pasta is from /tv/. It's talking about the BBC show with Cumberbatch.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:47:16 AM No.23373257
>>23371549
I feel like there are points where she cares more about the Earth than her own people.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:49:06 AM No.23373260
>>23373257
As I said on >>23365356, there's not much about Martians to worry about. They are a non-entity.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:04:04 AM No.23373276
>>23365247
>Implying zeekwank isn't the worst part about modern gundam
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:25:26 AM No.23373301
>>23367317
I'm still angry at the amazing soundtrack Sawano made for this garbage show.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:08:31 AM No.23373365
>>23373240
Makes perfect sense then.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:48:43 AM No.23373422
>>23373301
>amazing soundtrack
Oh boy its Unicorn again
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:49:38 AM No.23373424
>>23373422
Well, duh. It's Sawano.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:08:56 AM No.23373530
They had the perfect chance to change the complexion of the show by distributing Aldnoah tech to both sides as Asseylum and Lemrina become the figureheads of both sides. Would've been awesome to see an actual War end in a tragic way.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:06:14 AM No.23373704
>>23373530
Your (our) mistake is thinking the story was about the war, rather than the bullshit "character drama" they were really interested in. Having such a boring protagonist like Inaho front and center strangles the story completely.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:15:03 AM No.23373709
>>23373704
On the flipside that's probably the reason why this show drew in so many normies that usually don't like mecha and still to this day jack it off about how unique and creative it supposedly was. Because they're all about the "character drama." Financially it was a smart move, even though it resulted in a terrible show for the rest of us.
Now Argevollen, that was a good show about war airing at the same time as Aldnoah that went overlooked, people who never watched mecha anime calling it "generic" because they couldn't wrap their heads around its themes while continuing to glaze the fuck out of Aldnoah. It was truly a disgusting feeling after having finished Argevollen in December, being satisfied with the excellent experience, and then Aldnoah S2 began a few weeks later due to the split cour bullshit and I was reminded of just how inferior to Argevollen it was.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:24:54 AM No.23373716
>>23373709
The obscene part is that the setting had the potential to make a fantastic story out of it. Wasting potential is unforgivable in my book.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:19:46 AM No.23373798
>>23373716
Yeah. It was stupid as the twist was right there. Have Lemrina bail Slaine out and try to kill Asseylum and prolong the war. That way you'd actually get a franchise out of it. Have it become a Family Feud that hasn't been seen since Voltes wherein a Versian Princess allies with Earth against the Empire proper. From there, you get spinoffs.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:23:24 AM No.23373802
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What you need to understand about Aldnoah is that as we all know it wasn't written by Urobuchi, but further it was written by a man who lives to shitpost. His goal is not to create an ultra serious dramatic sci-fi epic, but to see how ridiculous the shit he can get the director to actually put in the show is. I know this sounds like "i trol u lol" but seriously he mostly does comedy adaptions and weird low budget projects where nobody cares.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 6:48:53 PM No.23374441
>>23371420
>doubled down on the Klancain/Asseylum marriage
Spiting waifufags, I see. This show hates its audience.

>Inaho never even met her again
Serves him right, but the writer is a super-sadist and hates the viewers.

>>23371549
>Asshime established herself as such a bitch that anyone ending up with her would be a punishment
She was, but the show never painted her as anything other than an innocent 'peace princess', even at the end.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 6:56:12 PM No.23374456
>>23373709
>Now Argevollen, that was a good show
STOPPED READING THERE
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:47:13 AM No.23376869
>>23373276
>modern Gundam
Zeekwank is as old as the franchise, fuckers like Gato have made Zeeks look even worse than they already are for decades.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:32:00 AM No.23377264
>>23373802
Oh yeah, it's been so long I forgot that was a whole contentious thing about the series, where the lie spread that Urobuchi wrote the whole thing when he actually wrote a couple episodes. Which led to ridiculous expectations and the "some guy" that wrote the rest of the episodes wasn't anywhere near as good a writer.
I know not everyone likes Urobuchi but it's so much more satisfying to watch something where he wrote the whole thing like Thunderbolt Fantasy and realize how consistently good it is the whole way through.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:37:46 AM No.23377267
>>23374441
Normally I love a show that hates its audience, because the audience tends to be incredibly stupid people that deserve to suffer, but only if the show is kino in spite of the opinions of its retarded audience, like Homestuck. But Aldnoah Zero is no Homestuck.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:42:44 AM No.23377269
>>23377264
Are you suggesting A/Z should've been made with puppets?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:44:50 AM No.23377271
>>23377269
That would have been badass, yes. Are there any puppet mecha shows out there already? That seems like fertile ground.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:29:36 AM No.23377297
>>23377264
Say what you want about the Urobutcher but even his worst shit is still competent writing, which is a goddamn rarity in this business.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:34:17 AM No.23377360
>>23371187
I loved the premise. I thought it was poorly executed.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:40:44 AM No.23378517
>>23377271
I think the best option on that front is older Anderson stuff (e.g. Terrahawks) and the occasional bit like the cybernetic shenanigans in TF. It is unfortunately an unexploited field.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:00:54 PM No.23381789
>>23373798
That's what a smart writer would do but alas. Anyway, it feels like Mars isn't going to last especially with her giving out universal privilege, ironically Inaho fucking off to go marry Slaine just results in Slaine ultimately not having to experience the fall of Vers.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:42:10 PM No.23385616
>>23381789
So it's actually a happy ending for Slaine?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:14:31 PM No.23385646
stygis_fighters_staging
stygis_fighters_staging
md5: f2392639faf70201201cafc32d0c7538๐Ÿ”
>Stygis Juan
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:16:06 PM No.23385647
stygis fighter 2
stygis fighter 2
md5: 70268fa887d86542099471ea0fa3d082๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:53:00 PM No.23386058
>>23365305
>where I live survived
Looks fine by me.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:57:52 PM No.23386067
>>23385616
Pretty sure that was the intention. Slaine no longer having to serve Asshime is meant to be a happy ending for him even if it means he has to rot in prison for the rest of his life.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 12:30:19 AM No.23386353
>>23366851
>>23365324
>>23365305
>>23365488
>Geography created by dropping chunks of the moon
Frankly it looks better than it should. Europe and Asia being practically untouched is an lol. Also impact winter.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 12:31:30 AM No.23386355
>>23386067
I wish I could find the fanart that was Betahime breaking Sloane out using a powersuit.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 12:32:36 AM No.23386356
>>23386355
*Slaine
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:19:27 PM No.23388869
Is it true this is just a remake of Layzner?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:20:28 PM No.23388873
>>23365305
good, FUCK Sydney
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:30:02 PM No.23388935
>>23388869
Let me see what Layzner is about.
>The series focuses on an alien invasion and subsequent totalitarian world occupation and resistance in a timeline where the Cold War continues.
Yeah, that sounds more or less the same.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:43:26 PM No.23389347
>>23388869
You should listen to less stupid people.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:56:28 PM No.23394003
>>23385646
>well, looks like we have to give the martians some sort of mass-produced unit after all
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:22:07 PM No.23394096
>>23365247
>>23370976
The colony drop was aimed at Jaburo (A legitimate military target), and the specific details of which spacenoids were earth loyal and Zeon loyal when the show first came out, and who killed who is unclear.

It said BOTH sides lost half their respective populations. Meaning in whatever original draft was the One Week War did not consist of Zeon suddenly massacring billions of innocent spacenoids and how exactly they got the colony and what happened to those inside wasn't settled till later.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:28:11 PM No.23394102
>>23366030
>>23371187

Real Robot defeating Super Robots with the power of HIGHSCHOOL PHYSICS was a fun idea.

Not really done very well.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:42:15 PM No.23394127
>>23394096
>The colony drop was aimed at Jaburo (A legitimate military target)
We had this debate already with Break The World. And regardless, look at this here:
>Tomino's original notion was that there were multiple colony drops, but eventually the consensus view [among the staff] became that there was a single drop on Sydney, Australia.

>It said BOTH sides lost half their respective populations.
That is not what the opening narration says. It says that "in just over one month of fighting, the Principality of Zeon and Federation Forces caused the deaths of half the total population", without further details as to which faction lost what.

>Meaning in whatever original draft was the One Week War did not consist of Zeon suddenly massacring billions of innocent spacenoids
Actually, it does.
https://www.gundamunofficial.com/archive/gundamsetting.html
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:52:10 PM No.23394143
>>23394127
>>It said BOTH sides lost half their respective populations.
>That is not what the opening narration says. It says that "in just over one month of fighting, the Principality of Zeon and Federation Forces caused the deaths of half the total population", without further details as to which faction lost what.
Is the official translation of "Both sides lost half their respective populations" inaccurate?

>>23394127
>https://www.gundamunofficial.com/archive/gundamsetting.html
Ah interesting so the oldest draft does say it was unilateral preemtive extermination of fellow spacenoids.

Honestly the war could be a lot more effecitvely grey if the translation was accurate, with other sides trying to join Zeon and things spiraling out of control.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:58:05 PM No.23394150
>>23394127
>"in just over one month of fighting, the Principality of Zeon and Federation Forces caused the deaths of half the total population", without further details as to which faction lost what.
This is the funny thing about that background. The way it's phrased makes it sound to people like it was a mutual thing, that there were huge losses of both earthnoids and spacenoids, but actually both groups were pretty much all killed by Zeon.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:58:52 PM No.23394152
>>23394143
>Is the official translation of "Both sides lost half their respective populations" inaccurate?
Correct. We've been through this before numerous times. The word "respective" is nowhere in the original.

>Honestly the war could be a lot more effecitvely grey if the translation was accurate, with other sides trying to join Zeon and things spiraling out of control.
What "other Sides"? It was only the EF and Zeon. The other colonies were Federation-controlled.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:07:38 AM No.23394166
>>23394152
>What "other Sides"? It was only the EF and Zeon. The other colonies were Federation-controlled.
Fucking hell I wish I could go back in time and stop Tomino from calling the colony clusters "Sides" and also calling individual fucking colonies/pairs "Bunches' like 30 Bunch it makes talking about them in english so much harder.

I mean attempts at revolution from within the other colony clusters that spiral out of control. Escalating revolutionary violence and increasingly extreme COIN that results in a couple colonies being totally wiped out with both sides blaming the other makes for an exceptionally functional casus beli if you wanted to do something with a Both Sides narrative. (And if you want Spacenoids willing to cling to Zeon in the sequels.)
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:33:11 AM No.23394208
>>23371306
Doan is a deserter. The randos are pretty clearly the enemy still. Dozle is the best Zabi because he cares for his men.
Garma is a child that would do anything to get his family's approval. Kicilya, Degwin and Gihren are all snakes.

The most nuance is from the Federation has traitors and people who are vaguely opposed to the White Base, but which side is the greater evil by a mile is plain as day.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:54:38 AM No.23394236
>>23394166
>>23394152
It's not that bad. Refer to the colonial Sides or Bunches with a capitalized letter because it's the proper name of that location. E.g., "Munzo is also known as Side 3". In other words, use a lowercase letter when using the terms generically. Or vary your terminology. Refer to them as factions or colonial sides or cylinders or whatever. I've also seen "banchi" used in place of "bunch" as if it was intended to be a made up word (which it kinda is) but I think it sounds kinda retarded either way
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:10:56 AM No.23394366
>>23394152
>>23394236
Fair enough. Either way I think the war boiling over more chaotically presents a more interesting picture (And helps the sequels make more sense)

I mean I guess since all the other first generation spacenoids are dead Zeon has some appeal to the newer generation who fought against Zeon and then got "Rewarded" with deportation to space to fill the replacement colonies.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:58:23 AM No.23396819
>>23388935
>>23389347
The duality of man
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:30:13 AM No.23397897
1427736607701
1427736607701
md5: cae02d9c1a659ba6a6b27a3c80151d11๐Ÿ”
>>23386355
This?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:56:38 AM No.23397924
>>23397897
She pulling a Spinzaku?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:02:38 AM No.23403339
>>23397924
Yes, but with cyborg legs so now it makes sense.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:46:18 PM No.23405159
Spinzaku_thumb.jpg
Spinzaku_thumb.jpg
md5: cf4b82ee8c489515bb98d608d113d888๐Ÿ”
>>23397897
>>23397924