Thread 23366291

Didn't see a thread.
Story Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PBUqSBwyWE
Heavy Armor Overview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BabmT2mc-xA
Some gameplay footage from Famitsu - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZu2GBu4WZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxWcMHyQRM
Heavy armor looks to be more of a temporary pwer up with limited customization, the powersuit type Arsenals will still be the main focus of the game.

>>23366291 (OP)
It sounds like you can't change the weapons or armor on heavy armor. The difference in loadouts seems like it might be just being able to choose different models. I assume the ability to transform is the primary reason for limiting it like that.

>>23366291 (OP)
So it's you vs aliens instead of other pilots and robots?

>>23366291 (OP)
Was looking forward to the game but now I am just disappointed.

>>23366431
No, the Neun are an entire group of Outers for you to fight. The immortals seem to be made of of mutated fauna and machines.

>>23366291 (OP)
Looks interesting.
That gauge being the time limit, the ammo count, and the health bar for the heavy armor is a bit much though.

>>23366374
Honestly, it doesn't even look like you can choose different models. There IS a different model in one of the trailers (that nonetheless still uses the same shoulder cannons), but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't pilotable. Especially if it only differs in appearance. But who knows.
Maybe in DXM3 we'll have both customizable suits and customizable mechs.

>>23366374
Disregard the deleted post.
I didn't even realize the trailer actually did feature slightly different models. So you might be right, though I wish you weren't. It makes sense then that the only customization they showed off for it was visual, meaning it's all there is.
Shame. Maybe DXM3 will offer more, as long as they don't decide to start from scratch again.

>>23366744
>なお、パーツやウエポンのカスタマイズには対応していないが、カラーリングやデカールの変更は可能だ。
Also confirmed by fami2.

>>23366374
tbf I thought all the mechs in the first game looked the same anyway. They also felt like they played about the same. The build variety wasn't great.

In some of the gameplay footage you can see him two handing a heavy weapon, blocking his left hand slot, so this game is perfect for me. My niche power armor fetish is heavy two handed weapons, so I'm sold. Surprisingly rare to find sometimes since AC doesn't do it.

>>23367057
First game had a couple of weapons like that, so it's good to see more in this one.

>>23367057
AC should have course corrected from allowing standard weapons in the left hand long ago, but it took the series until its fifth PS2 game to even start acknowledging the existence of analog sticks, so it's no wonder nothing was ever done about that.

>>23366291 (OP)
Lol they let you ride on the alien horse when you have a jet pack? I love pointless shit like this.

I like that they're getting away from being a mid Armored Core clone and doing it's own thing now. The aliens look pretty boring and grey but the gameplay looks good. It'll be fun to explore and get into fights. I just hope they add enough enemy pilot fights since those were the only non retarded enemies in the first game (and it looks the same here).

>>23367165
Well, the horse doesn't seem to use any stamina to ride, so it's probably faster in the long run than switching on boosters, switching them off, waiting to regen, switching them on again, etc

>>23367188
In the gameplay I saw it looks like while you're flying if you run out of stamina you hardly descend at all and can still move forward while your stamina recharges so you can boost again.

Maybe flight is unlocked later or staying in the air without stamina is a skill you unlock.

>>23366291 (OP)
Found 40 mins of a leaked PC demo.

https://youtu.be/jS6F70gTnas?t=1297

>>23366291 (OP)
Good trailer and footage.

Apparently there’s going to be a whole Cars game mini game in this one.

https://www.rpgsite.net/preview/17670-daemon-x-machina-titanic-scion-new-features-preview

Transmog is also confirmed

>>23372386
*Card game

>>23368169
>>23372386
I wish someone with early access would actually pay attention to how aiming works, since even the official gameplay breakdown ignores it. But it does seem like there's explicit/visible aim assist when you're not hardlocked, so you can almost pretend there's a tiny lockbox in the middle. Should be quite enough for MKB.
Also
>color settings under HUD
Nice, too bad the UI is still bland and flat - just like in Dolls Nest. Cool HUDs are becoming a lost art.

>>23368169
Not bad but how is it better than PSO2/NG or XCX now?

>>23372458
Well unlike XCX, you actually have to play the game and not micromanage a bunch of timers.

>>23372530
>he didn't micromanage the spacings and hop into his discharged Skell as if it's a shield

>>23372458
>how is it better than NGS
They'd have to actively try to make it worse than NGS. And fuck you for reminding me that game exists.
>or XBX
"Holy shit! Two cakes!" Ideally three, if that one also gets a faithful sequel.

>>23372386
>card game

Will it be good?

New one handed ranged weapons trailer
https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1942524059075441067?t=nSJJZQZrNcTFlHLBLhAo9A

A bit disappointed that the big robots are limited

>>23366374
They've shown a dual katana HA before so maybe you can change your arm equipment, or maybe it's just a different standardized setup.
For better or worse, this is fertile ground for the same kind of DLC they made for the first game where you'd get full body skins for your arsenal, but this time around they might make DLCs with specific setups as it looks like HA uses the same animation rig and animations as the human models anyway, don't be surprised if such a thing happens.
>>23367057
Same, I'm very glad we don't have AC's issue of mechs one handing impossibly long weapons, even if it's totally true for HA.
One of my greatest /m/ fetishes is two handed stuff like buster launchers and sniper rifles and this is one of those rare games that do it right.

>>23375996
>mechs one handing impossibly long weapons
yeah this always bugged me too

>>23366291 (OP)
The movement is giving me anthem vibes, which was honestly the 1 good part of that game.

>>23374963
New melee weapon trailer - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1943260283293831569?t=E6XsD1_l3OBcWhp0V4xVVw

>>23378147
Nice dog fisting at the end.
>tachi (split sword) doesn't have a laser counterpart
Oh come on, are they afraid of getting sued by Disney?

>>23378147
fist weapons in a mech game?
that's the shit right there

>>23378147
Yeah, I think I'm buying at this point, this is way better than the first game no matter how you look at it

It's weird because I've been on a /m/ game kick but after bouncing through the AC roster I ended up just replaying DxM from top to bottom again.

Even after revisiting fa I think DxM just has my favorite movement. Due in part to how fun blinking is and the fact that you can control the distance you blink with player input timing. Combine that with the speed of movement and the overall control and it's just hard to get that experience in any other game.

>>23383758
Blinking is fun though
>that time you accidentally blink out of bounds or into an acid pool

>>23384288
You know it's crazy I used to suicide blink all the time when I played on the switch
But I guess it was just a framerate thing as I've only done it twice and like 30 hours post acquisition on pc

>>23378147
missiles trailer - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1945060788382867673?t=BIePkiSWBft0mtpmVUSwGQ
Those incredibly slow high explosive missiles seem like something made for pvp harassment.

I am cautiously optimistic about this game.

I am recklessly optimistic about this game.

I am moderately optimistic about this game.

I am unknowingly optimistic about this game.

>>23388191
shields trailer - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1945785553036685791?t=pLkTitnsgdQJfIaCJxFydw

>>23366291 (OP)
>Heavy armor looks to be more of a temporary pwer up with limited customization, the powersuit type Arsenals will still be the main focus of the game.
I'll be avoiding this one, senpaitachi. Sorry. Here's hoping they won't be retarded for the proper DxM 2 - If they survive this flop that is.

New novel, Star Liberator - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1945793243565944836?t=iB7eg-ERIgwtOU_-CCtd3g
The first novel, Star Reclaimer, was an adaptation of the first game. I wonder what this one is since the cover doesn't suggest it's adapting Titanic Scion. Maybe a novel that bridges the time period between the games.

>>23390657
Why does /m/ hate powersuits?

>>23390657
The first game sucked so much it doesn't count, so this is actually the first DxM game.

>>23391622
>gbitch image
>buzzwords
That's a tourist.

>>23390874
That kind of looks like the first teaser visual for the sequel.

>>23391624
The first game was better than AC6.

>>23391710
It wasn't even better than shoveling dog turds into your mouth.

>>23391721
You know all about that I see.

>>23391622
I like them. Not at the expense of pilotable giant mecha though.

>>23391642
>flop
>buzzword
>t. actual newfag

>>23391710
AC6 is an insult to the series, but DXM was just an insult to itself honestly. It's not that I was expecting a renamed AC game (which it wasn't), but I had to try and enjoy it in spite of the weightless permaflight, some weapon types feeling like absolute shit to use, the dumb characters, the forced red highlights, legs not only being less varied but effectively useless, the loot mechanics, and the on-foot mode that existed for some reason.
I was still hoping they'd refine all that for the sequel instead of starting from scratch, but what they're doing with TS looks fun enough on its own, so it doesn't feel like much of a loss all things considered. Meanwhile Project Six might actually be releasing relatively soon rather than never.

>>23390598
>Shields actually deflect damage, instead of reducing dmg.
WHAT IS THIS TECHNOLOGY?

>>23391729
Yeah I watched you doing it you DxM loving poof.

>>23397875
>kawamori not even involved
Grim.

>>23398455
nigger what

>>23398512
They took inspirations from his designs in the first game to make shitty power armors for this one. He had nothing to do with it.

>>23398517
The designs in the first game weren't anything special. I wont blame kawamori for it, it was probably under restrictions. They were cool enough, but I couldn't tell the different between any design unless it was in the garage, and even then only the heaviest parts really stood out.

>>23398530
Mecha designs from the first one was the best thing about it. They were all basically White Glints. Now we get Anthem from Comiket.

>>23398517
That's quite a fucking stretch from
>そういう中で言うと開発のアートディレクターの方からいくつか描いて欲しいってもあったんで、僕自身も描いたりするんですけど
>ま、川森さんに作っていただいたコンセプトを大事にしながら広げてます
when we have picrel and https://nitter.net/dxm_game/status/1909622401375097310

>>23398559
Yeah, I'd describe every mech in the first game as a basic white glint.

>>23390598
cannons and railguns trailer - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1947597499750826386?t=Vt2NWJLUFIdOxGa6wrRVKA

>>23391768
>DXM was just an insult to itself
Holy fuck go back to /v/ you joyless pseud.

>>23398793
heavy guns trailer - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1948322272516645354

>>23398793
The railgun has a good oomph to it. I appreciate the recoil sending the character back a meter.

From a recent interview:

>“This time, we set out to make a more accessible story by maintaining the same depth but narrowing the scope. We hold great respect for various works of science fiction, manga, movies, and anime, and I believe our story will resonate with fans of these genres, giving them a lot to think about. Take the robot character Toby, for example, who references the robot Astro Boy. Astro Boy was created by Dr. Tenma after his son died. However, Dr. Tenma’s son’s name was actually Tobio, and the name Toby was chosen as a tribute to him.


>“I would like players to enjoy everything. We designed the gameplay so that players can experience everything. I also want players to jump into online play. Other players can revive you if you fall in battle while playing co-op, so there’s nothing to fear.”


forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2025/07/21/kenichiro-tsukuda-on-daemon-x-machina-titanic-scion-and-astro-boy/

another interview - https://www.gematsu.com/2025/07/daemon-x-machina-titanic-scion-interview-with-producer-kenichiro-tsukuda-open-world-multiplayer-enemies-skill-system-and-more
Has some info on coop, which apparently you can coop everything in the game this time if you want.
Also, seems you can jack the Neun's special skills when you beat them.

>>23404788
Interesting stuff.

You’d think they’d show off more multiplayer gameplay if they’re now letting you do the whole game Co-op. Pretty much all gameplay I’ve seen are with the ai NPCs.

If preordering, which version to get?

>>23411380
Standard or deluxe are fine. Don’t spend the extra on the super deluxe BS.

Might be worth waiting to see if the DLC expansion is worth it instead of doing deluxe. I’ve got faith they’ll deliver, they seem to be putting in more effort than last time with this game.

>>23402008
bow vid - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1950134209953386586

>>23411689
NTA but as a person who is very pro-stupid dumb trinket feelies I'd say get whatever version fits your fiscal discretion.
I do wish that challenge coins were more fashionable in this space, though. Even if it's coopting a military tradition for capitalist bullshit, they could make useful advertising trinkets. Coin check random people -and- shill for games you like!

>>23414196
*post made conflating the limited edition physical with the DX digitals, disregard as you see fit.

>>23414196
I was wondering because the $120 version didn't look nearly as worth it compared to what you were getting from the $90 version.

>>23366291 (OP)
Fusion and Heavy Armor trailers in English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QaX8qwV-oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d64Hylx2Nc

>>23412744
status weapons trailer - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1950858983134400881

>>23366291 (OP)
>Heavy armor looks to be more of a temporary pwer up with limited customization, the powersuit type Arsenals will still be the main focus of the game.
Damn, there goes my interest.

>>23415994
does this game have hard lock?

There's a surprise at about 5:15 into this chinese demo vid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igJLBpS7s5E
Apparently your bike can transform and attach to your arsenal.

>>23416261

I wouldn't say I lost interest but the fact the mecha is a temporary power up is...disappointing.

>>23417580
Damn they are cooking

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZu2GBu4WZI
Kinda lame how the "heavy armor" doesn't have the old Arsenal control scheme. It's just a bigger model for the normal power armor character. Also lame how we can only customize the decals and colors but not the actual mecha. But the worst thing about it is how fast it runs out. There better be a way to upgrade that and massively extend the duration. Or else I'll be using cheat engine.

>>23420089
Yeah it's pretty half-assed. It not actually feeling like a classic Arsenal honestly bothers me more than the lack of customization at this point. They already have the lockbox system for missiles, could have at least repurposed that.

Why are people so autistic about the heavy armor? There aren't many games with customizable power armor so I'll take it.

>>23415084
>https://youtu.be/3QaX8qwV-oI?t=55
>Abandon your humanity and become a mini Gothicmade!
>https://youtu.be/8d64Hylx2Nc?t=23
So all you need to at the very least be able to pretend it's going to be a proper mecha game is a mod that keeps the whatever gauge full at all times then?

>>23421240
Because in most if not all instances, proper mecha beats power armor by the sheer force of appeal.
>autistic
Yeah, mecha satisfies my autism far more than power armor. It really tickles my autism bone, so to speak, or I wouldn't have such a huge boner for mecha instead of just moderately sized one when it comes to power armor.

>>23421384
Nah it'll never be a proper mecha game since they ruined the mecha controls of the previous game. Now it's just Iron Man RPG faggot shit, collecting bug asses to craft the strongest sword.

>>23421439
>they ruined the mecha controls of the previous game
Elaborate

>>23421462
Going by the video in >>23420089, it'd seem that there's only hard lock now or something? No more free camera movement paired with the targetting reticle? Unless there are any other radical gameplay changes that make the input further diverge from the first game's. I can't be completely sure without getting to play myself, to be honest.

>>23421692
Can't be arsed to open that video to check if it's in it, but hardlock isn't forced. In free aim mode there's explicit/visible aim assist in the middle of the screen, so you can almost treat it as a tiny lockbox. Not sure if that can be turned off.

>>23421439
People are still doing the "it's not a REAL mech game unless the controls are really weird and you don't move like any other mech anime!" thing?
Was there ever any mech anime where the mechs all turned really slowly to keep looking at each other, compared to all the ones where they turn on a dime? God, even gasaraki has them spin. Even AC's cutscenes have them spin.

What are we trying to emulate here, other than From Softwares control scheme for their PS1 action games?

>>23422189
NTA, but having the big bot controls be different from the power armor controls would have made it more interesting instead of just being an ult

Why are they trying to turn this into some weird Anthem/Armored Core fusion thing?

Should have kept it to just mechs.

>>23422189
Most of it is just the MechWarrior boomer mindset of "it needs to have 50 deticated hotkeys". Not that its a bad mindset for certain games, it works fine for something like Earthsiege or Steel Battalion. But it is silly to try and apply that mindset to something like Armored Core. Its already autistic with the garage building experience, it doesn't need to have alien controls on top of that.

>>23423487
Because the first game sucked and the series it was aping in the meantime came back successfully? I'm surprised they're even making a sequel, pivoting the focus is the next reasonable step.

>>23423909
yeah I'm sure now trying to ape a game that failed so catastrophically it just got announced to be shutting down will work out great

>>23424704
It probably is wiser to copy something people wanted but they failed at developing than something people wanted and they finally got and you absolutely can't do better than.

>>23424704
And which game are you talking about?

>>23424727
The only relevant game I wanted and got was Dolls Nest.
As for an AC game that doesn't suck balls, I can now only hope Project Six is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAzDrsn0SRU&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
Brief preview with some early story spoilers.

>>23425480
Finally some impressions on the actual content of the game.

Looks like an improvement over the first game, hopefully later environments look less boring. And the game has some actual difficulty.

>>23426320
>And the game has some actual difficulty.
I think you mean actual difficulty that isn't being flung into the outer border by a single boss hit, instantly killing you

>>23426745
Literal spatial awareness issue.

>>23425480
There's a few more previews out there too, fwiw.

This thread from someone who's 30 hours in was probably the best preview to me. They even put up the in-game story synopsis on how this game links to the first game.

They also mention that the game is fully-voiced entirely - even the dialogue options that your main character chooses.

https://bsky.app/profile/hdkirin.bsky.social/post/3lvot3kmhks2g

>>23426915
>>23426320
Fighting the map borders is one of the most annoying parts of japanese action games and for some reason it shows up in mecha stuff a lot. DxM really suffered from it, more than any of the ACs I've played.

Nothing worse than an enemy fucking retreating into the "you lose the mission" zone and then fighting you from there like he knows what the deal is.

Does anyone know if the switch 2 version physical copy will be that bullshit digital key download plastic crap or is it a real physical copy?

>>23427711
They announced that the western release on switch 2 is all on cartridge while the JP version will be Keycard bullshit.

>>23427757
Thanks, the store in my country usualy import either the NA or EU version so I guess I can rest easy.

>>23424704
Anthem didn't fail because of power armor. ACfags are unbearable.

Space.

>>23427584
See what's funny is at an earlier point in DXM's development you would go into an autopilot state to return you to within boundaries, but everyone complained about how it seized control away from the player back when the preview build was made publicly available, and in the final release build it went back to the more traditional out of bounds = fail state method.

I was there, everyone hated the autopilot return and legit wanted the very problem you're complaining about to be implemented instead.

artbook preview - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1953403247848260028

>>23428062
Cant believe we're getting proper space combat in a modern mech game. They usually avoid it.

I'm sure it'll just be the same airborne combat just in a larger map but the fantasy is cool nonetheless.

>>23428905
I can believe them, that sounds annoying too. Doesn't it still do it but only the top of the playable area? I remember being super pissed at fighting flying enemies that would go high when you'd be forced to fly back down over and over.

You could just nudge the NPCs towards the playable area as well, there's no reason to have the player stuck in the map borders and the enemies that can just go wherever the fuck they want. I wouldn't have a problem with the map borders if neither of us go near them.

>>23424727
>It probably is wiser to copy something people wanted but they failed at developing
Which is precisely what they're doing. Floaty real-time JRPG gameplay is not anywhere close to what Anthem did. Anthem's failings are for completely different reasons.

>let's not do the tps mech thing and just be an arpg with jetpacks
What the fuck?

>>23431709
>Floaty real-time JRPG gameplay
It plays like the first game. Power armor absolutely mindbroke this board.

>>23422189
I don't consider them people. Just some fatfuck whose only life achievement worth bragging about is learning to control mechs like a crane machine in video games.
Even more pathetic is that everyone can master that control easily.

>>23422189
DXM already had no turnspeed as a stat, and the controls were just TPS with canon aim assist and model rotation locked to camera.
DMX2 unlocked character rotation from camera, made the assist area fixed and tiny, but added hardlock.
Don't sperg out when you don't even have a clue what you're replying to.

That being said (and I'm not that guy), I hate that they added hardlock, but otherwise I don't have an issue with them doing whatever the fuck they want with DXM since the first game wasn't literally AC and kinda sucked anyway. But AC should have AC controls, non-negotiable. By that I don't mean the default AC1 control scheme, no.

>>23433964
>Don't sperg out when you don't even have a clue what you're replying to
>and I'm not that guy
Why are you assuming on some other random posters behalf that he's not saying that? Don't assume 4chan posters aren't total retards and run in to defend them lol
>DMX2 unlocked character rotation from camera
Yeah nigga that's the "turn speed" that they all complain about. This is what makes them cry.

>AC should have AC controls, non-negotiable. By that I don't mean the default AC1 control scheme, no
Nah fuck off. Go pvre trvd no sticks or eat my ass.

>>23433964
Found the fatfuck

>>23433999
>Why are you assuming
It's called reading comprehension.
>Yeah nigga that's the "turn speed" that they all complain about
No it fucking isn't, are you retarded?
Kill yourself.

>>23434108
The exact opposite.

Why would Titanic Scion have turnspeed if they are dudes in armors?

>>23421240
I mean, I can understand it if they liked the first game. It went from being a mech game to a power armor game featuring mechs as a super mode. No one would probably care if the first game was like this too but I can understand if existing fans feel a little betrayed.

>>23366291 (OP)
>>23372386
As someone who's going into the game totally blind.
I wonder if they'll force you to cut apart your body for upgrades again like the original game.
I didn't do it on principle.

>>23435027
the turnspeed is never the problem

>AC6 newroaches triggered by proxy
Dark Souls and its 360 movement had grave consequences for the mecha genre

>>23434135
Yes it is. They all screech about having a camera that isn't locked to your mechs facing, and you can only turn your camera as fast as your mech can turn its body. Hence why turn speed on your legs is how fast your mech can look around. Even though it also has a head.

>>23428062
alright I'm sold

>>23411380
>>23411689
>>23414196
Quick question, is the pre order worth it or is it stuff you can get from the game?

>>23422189
>mfw being surrounded by anti-quickturn schizos

>>23437502
>Preorders are open until July 15th, 2025
What?
>No additional production will be made after this
What? Is this made to order?

>>23436519
yes, but now you mutate into an unholy abomination since you splice in genes. They even spell out trading your humanity for power.

>>23436996
The first game had model locked to camera but with unrestricted mouselook on PC. Turn speed as a mechanic with uncoupled camera can also be implemented for the sake of the game feeling better with MKB -- where you can look around freely, but the mech needs time to catch up to actually shoot in that direction.
They're separate things, and there are reasons one might want just one or the other. Personally, I like MKB-enabled action games with no lock-on where the character attacks in camera's direction (melee included) even if they're not necessarily looking there at all times.

>>23438341
From robotics to genetics, interesting.
I'll still go the pure human route. Shame you don't get anything for doing that in the original game.

>>23415994
mirage trailer - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1955207632899469398

Vtuber playthrough of the opening chapters starting around the 3 and a half hour mark
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2537349211
MC seems like a cocky bastard, I like it.

>>23443035
great now I can't self insert.
Drop.

>>23443035
Any new information shown in this?

I see that you can now select a difficulty at the start. But I’m not watching all that to pick out every detail.

>>23444641
Few things I picked up
-Lances can apparently be used in combination with shields, not sure if that means any special combo moves but the tutorial screen makes a point to specify that
-Gunfort from the first game is now an overworld enemy
- The enemy in pic is apparently named ED902, which I found kind of funny

>>23445218
Cute tiny handguns.

>>23442548
barrier burst trailer - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1955932416536928344

English faction trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlr_QfF_dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_12u5e5dWs

>>23446671
Can't watch right now but going by the thumbnails is it just good guys bad guys?

>>23428905
They could simply have the old reliable Invisible Wall.

>>23445905
That's just Assault Armor, isn't it?

>>23446694
I'd say it's more like SMT style order vs chaos kind of thing but you're probably not that far off anyway. The question is if you can choose factions this time around or are you stuck by default with the desiganted good guys?

>>23447326
>The question is if you can choose factions this time around or are you stuck by default with the desiganted good guys?
The real question is if you can play with jap voices.

>>23447326
I don't think that's a question, honestly. The text and voice stuff spells out that you are essentially a former Neun, having turned your back on them. The guy who is set up as your best friend/rival is even yelling about securing his place by taking you out.
The actual question is who are the third blank faction on the official website.

>>23447364
>The actual question is who are the third blank faction on the official website.
Probably either some neutral governing body or eminence grise kind of thing. I'd still like the ability to be able to choose sides. Maybe having subsequent ng+ giving you more options as the story gets unveiled more and more through different perspectives. And then you nuke them all in a secret true neutral ending or something.

>>23443035
Youtube version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HveiIj8sJBY
Also some dev gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dq-CXP8whc
From the autosubs it sounds like you have a choice between ranged, melee and balanced Heavy Armor options.
>>23446694
>>23447326
>>23447422
Neun are pretty clearly the antagonists here, I'm not expecting any branching storyline outside of maybe a brief ending thing like the first game.
>>23447364
>The text and voice stuff spells out that you are essentially a former Neun, having turned your back on them.
Not Neun specifically but clearly affiliated with the Garden/Axiom.

>>23447334
Nowadays it's thankfully not even a question, it's a given.
What I'd like to know is if you can mute combat voices. Because I've seen the "none" option for story voices in CC but not for combat callouts.

>>23448466
First game had a mute option in the character creator/editor. Unless you mean party members, then I don't know.

>>23448624
No, I do mean the MC, and I know what the first game had, but last I checked (it was in one of the chink gameplay videos), the character creation in TS only had a mute for story dialogue but not combat dialogue - they're separate. Though I have a feeling there will be more unlockable combat voices for other NPCs you meet later on, so a mute might be also be unlocked later. Or at least it should be easy to patch/mod in.

the demo marvelous showed off looks stiff but ambitious.

>>23448430
Have there been any hints at other areas like the Blue City/Forest in the first game?

I'm getting tired of seeing the gray ass desert and muddy red plains of these previews.

>>23450860
So far they've only showed the desert and forest areas of the main game. Forest has a little more going on but it's still kind of barren. The DLC expansion looks like it might have more color though.

>>23391622

Vanquish was the coolest shit ever.

>>23450860
I'm kind of hoping they're just keeping hush hush about all the lush, vibrant and interesting environments later in the game. Wasn't this game supposed to be at the very least partially inspired by Xenoblade? I only played X and 3, and both of those have some feirly pretty stuff to look at.
>picrel
I liked that area too. Shame it only appeared in what, two or three missions?

>>23452170
>DLC expansion
A what? The game's not even out yet, where did you get the dlc from?

>>23452481
>The game's not even out yet, where did you get the dlc from?
Official japanese site, under the DLC tab
https://jp.daemonxmachina.com/titanicscion/product/
The updated Arsenal skins are really growing on me btw, especially the Prototype one that went from being my least favorite in the first game to one I'm seriously thinking of using here.

>>23445905
auxiliary weapons - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1957381960441168243

>>23453256
Wish there were aux slot funnels, but they'll probably go on the back again.

>>23439482
>spoiler
I wonder if there will be any sort of feedback for going either way this time around. I used that one ornate cosmetic armor in the last game, keeping my guy looking human despite maxed out augmentation, so I both kept the cake and ate it. I wonder if there will be a way to pull that off again.

>>23448430
>From the autosubs it sounds like you have a choice between ranged, melee and balanced Heavy Armor options.
Any chance of being able to mess around with the equipment slots on the heavy armor or at the very least choose some cosmetic skins for it?

>>23452170
Heeeey, Cthulu!

I'm really hoping for a demo, I don't mind throwing away 90 dollarydoos for the Deluxe Edition but I need to feel how it plays first.

>>23453256
helm splitter - https://x.com/dxm_info/status/1957744347988013178

Dynamic entry is a game mechanic.

>>23454245
You got your wish buddy

>>23456386
Downloading right the fuck now, yeah.

>>23456387
I'll try it later too, never did play the first game though. One of those eternal backlog games sadly.

>40GB demo
>Sysreqs are 50GBs
I wonder how much is even missing.

>>23455774
You'd think after the first game people would know that DXM eats, breathes and shits anime bullshit.
But also, I can't believe this hasn't been a thing before, where the guy who joins a session partway through also comes with some kind of bonus support effect rather than just leisurely spawning in while the rest of the game proceeds as if nothing has really changed. This is a cool idea.

>>23456423
By the way, if you want to listen to these, https://github.com/vgmstream/vgmstream/
\Daemon X Machina Titanic Scion Demo\Game\Content\Audio\CRI\STREAM\BGM

Here are some stamps:
https://mega.nz/folder/Td0klK4L#QJmeEsunWKHrcc6mdA2esA

>>23455774
>E N T E R as a game mechanic
kino

Oh I'm going to lose so much time to this game.

Anyone manage to beat Centurion during the tutorial mission? Noticed you can keep fighting him after getting the catapult objective, but I could barely take out more than a quarter of his health before my mistakes piled up and I had no health left

That's a lot of bodies

>heavy weapons use both hands but still only take up one slot
That's pretty nice actually.

who needs mechs when we got CAAAAAAAAAAAAARS
Didn't have anyone to play with but I assume in co-op you can hop in with your friends and go out for a ride. Sounds fun

I wish they kept the old weapon switching method, the cycling is fucking with me.

https://youtu.be/x9oesEWnTKo?t=1502
Secret heavyweight Arsenal in the prologue

Not gonna download 40 fucking GB worth of demo when the whole game is just 50 and coming out in two weeks,
How is the movement compared to the first one?

The tight spaces of the opening do an awful job of showing off the game. It's way more fun when you have room to move.

>>23457226
Also some website updates
https://na.daemonxmachina.com/titanicscion/gameplay.html#deep
https://na.daemonxmachina.com/titanicscion/characters.html#etc

>>23457129
The way the cars look and handle feels like I'm playing anime Halo 2 or 3.

>>23457236
why not? save data carries over

>>23457236
..how fast is your internet?

>>23457236
40 gigs takes like 10 minutes to download bro

>>23457035
I really don't like how they've fallen for the open world meme. Do people really hate mission-based structure that much?

>>23457340
I honestly wouldn't mind an open world, if it's as interesting as Xenoblade X. I think they've made a mistake by making most of the mobs small and will always attack you, in Xenoblade X you can see fuckhuge mobs that will just chill you just let them be, in here the neutral mobs are just horses.

Do the Outer bodies seem strangely proportioned to anybody? I guess it's not a big deal when the mechs are the main attraction, but still.

As somebody who has avoided the entire pre-release news cycle, have the devs explained why they pivoted from mecha to power armor?

I’m interested in this but I’m still kind of confused as to what the normal gameplay flow is. I’m trying not to look up too much because I don’t like to “spoil” myself when it comes to games I’m looking forward to, but from what I’ve seen I’m still not sure how progression is.
It looks story based but there’s multiplayer. I see it has drop in multiplayer so is it open world or mission based? Or is it like MH where there’s a separate set of multiplayer missions but you have to progress major story beats Solo?

>>23457236
Yknow how your Outer moved in the first game, floaty and all that?
Imagine that, but in an Iron Man suit. It definitely nails the difference in handling compared to an older Arsenal.

>>23457711
So I've been playing it for a minute and seems like they want you to fuck around in the open world and collect loot. They added Halo-esque trucks for you and friend to drive around in. You can switch your weapons with looted ones immediately and you can see enemies to loot on the map.

I actually made the mistake of not looting when during the initial quest to get to the base and I had no weapons for a mandatory story battle.

>>23457324
I've realized that a lot of people are on high speed internet, but they have legacy routers and hubs throttling their connection.

>>23457340
To be fair, in the lead up to AC6 people were doing a fair bit of BUT WHAT IF OPEN WORLD THO and getting excited for it.
Plus so far into the demo the vibe sure does feel like the player character is fighting in an insurgent role as opposed to the structured organization that the previous game put you in, so shifting from mission based to a free form open map tracks thematically if that's the case.
I don't get the feeling Marvelous-First is the sort of dev that would do this because industry trend, though as a counterargument to that I do believe the current builds for Unreal Engine strongly support designing large open world environments so it could be the tool set influencing the direction of the game (that or some ways through development of DxM someone started to think that boxing the mission into a closed space is awfully restricting and that an unbounded game space would just be more fun to traverse in general).

>>23457236
>How is the movement compared to the first one?
Different.
Going fast and staying fast mid combat requires way more finger spaghetti since you can comparatively just fly all over the fucking place between shots.

But man does it feel cool.

>>23457340
yes, the open world in this one is just unnecessary. you just fly from mission to mission for 5 minutes and occasionaly fight 2-3 enemies while you do that. there's nothing to discover, the loot is 90% trash even in caves, there are even ubisoft-style outposts. fucking stupid.

I picked the lightweight arsenal and flying still feels a bit slow compared to the first game.

So do you keep factor skills if you pay to undo mutations?

Why are there horse riding mechanics in this game?
Not that I'm complaining, I'm just baffled by how things feel even weirder and more "fuck you I think it's cool" than the last game.

wth my demo don’t load, it is just a black screen after picking a name

>>23458594
10/10 Chirico
I realised after I made my character that I did what I did for the first DXM, aka Ritsuko with the serial numbers filed off

>>23458948
So you can ENTER with your own personal Trombe

>>23459131
I went out of my way to make a cocky looking bitch with raybans.
Even went the extra mile to try and color match gold frame g15 lens aviators because I'm autistic like that.
>the character writing for the player character's early interactions planetside ends up perfectly nailing the amount of smug asshole energy I was gunning for

Yes.
YES, VIDEOGAMES, YEEEESSSSSS.

Played the demo for about 4 hours, not done everything but I doubt there's anything really secret or hidden.

Pretty decent game, I like open world games unironically and always wanted an open world mech game, Macross 30 is the only game that scratched the itch.

I do have a problem with the difficulty as the game is quite easy even on the hardest difficulty, the regular enemies die very quickly, the only thing that gave me difficulty was the gunfort, I hope there's more challenge in the full game and there's an interesting end game that actually incentivizes playing with others to take down a big world boss or something.

Will definitely buy it when it drops to at least 60 bucks (not paying for modern game prices).

>>23459499
>gunfort
Did I miss something? I've got to the rescue the Raven mission but after talking to some randoms on the way to the objective I've got a trailer to the face and boot to the main menu.

Not mine, but I got a chuckle.

>>23459684
OPTIC BLAST

>>23459790
Is that gunfort? In my defense, the deaths were because I cannot see him when the camera whips around and he does the body slam.

>>23459956
What was the deal with gunfort? He is way harder than in the first game. Guns do no damage at all.

>>23457340
If it has more actual design compared to the first one (which effectively only had the tunnels and that's it -- not a high bar), it's already a net gain.

Post arsenals

>>23460036
Gunfort is one of those puzzle bosses. First DxM made it nearly piss easy and the harder variant was only slightly harder, if you weren't filtered by the shield. In this iteration he's one of those ARPG world raid bosses. It;s good thing because as I'm doing it now it makes much more enjoyable. The damage is there, its not a HP bloat kinda boss.

>>23460044
*level design

>>23460098
Gunfort is aids to fight because of how much slower the arsenals are. Guns do no damage even after you break its armor so you have to get close with melee, and it's constantly jumping away so the fight takes forever. Rebellion can also be found and he's a much better fight.

does the demo have heavy mechs?

>>23460036
>Guns do no damage at all.
Effective range plus a gorillion kinetic defense.
Bows do regular damage but the rest of the guns need to be in their critical range if they're not lasers.

>>23460061
I can't say that I like the overtly human proportions they have now, with being just power armor and not proper mecha and all that.

>femto energy

thanks for almost giving me a PTSD flashback

>>23460255
Meanwhile, as one of the few Gasaraki fans on this board, I'm pretty much OK with how things are going!
I mean sure the Arsenals could do to be a bit chunkier, but fuck it I'm in my element here aesthetically speaking with the medium starter armor.

I really want to spoil myself and play a second custom mechagirl game this year, but the body/head parts look cool too. Might have to play through it twice.

>>23460255 (Me)
And here's a pic of what I used during my last, so far, playthrough of the first game, for the reference.

>>23460303
You're alright. And speaking of Gasaraki, I'd be more partial to something aesthetically more like the demon armor things it had, to be honest, especially the one with the longer sword arm.

>tfw a filthy humigger talks to you
I need a space shower to wash the filth off, god I hate h*m*ns

Various fusion skills
https://files.catbox.moe/1dcfig.mp4

>>23460422
Might get laser and blink.

>>23460422
My man, use streamable like normal people

>>23460551
https://streamable.com/7r3lfs

>>23460590
Much better, thanks

Does the game have an emblem creator like AC?

>>23460590
Mildly miffed that you need the stuff that makes you more Ayylium is tied to weapon skills.

>>23460720
It's the same issue the original game had with the cyborg upgrades, no reason not to use them as you're just missing on stuff.
But turning yourself into a cyborg was way cooler than this half assed Guyver thing they're trying to do here, especially since this game uses power armor so it's not like you get to look at your ayyylmao monstrosity given you can't hide all the power armor parts either.

Not quite home but still comfy.

>>23460626
There's supposed to be emblem editor but it's not enabled in the demo, so maybe? But it seems like you take one of the premade pics and then edit it somehow? I guess you'll know in just two more weeks.

>sidelining mechs
Why would they do that?! Why shoot yourself in the foot in such a stupid way?! Do they actually want their game to fail?

Do we know whether the full game gonna let you color your weapons or not? This is kinda a deal breaker for me.

>>23460385
zech parts were the right amount of bulky without being useless like rebellion

>>23366291 (OP)
Can I LARP and cosplay as J from Verdict Day here?

>>23366291 (OP)
Is the original game worth picking up?
I bought AC6 yesterday

>>23461979
No, it's pretty bad. 2 seems actually good from the demo and it's not a direct sequel.

>>23461979
>Is the original game worth picking up?
Yes
>I bought AC6 yesterday
lmao

>>23461979
You wasted enough money already, but I'd say it might be worth a pirate. It has its moments, and you may enjoy it less or more depending on what you expect or want out of it - because some specific elements that are done well enough you might not give a shit about, but on the other hand, you might also not give a shit about those done poorly and just not engage with them (like certain types of weapons).

So, was the demo datamined yet? 40 out of predicted 50GB install just for a few hours of gameplay has me suspicious as to just how much of the playable content is closed behind the demo walls. I'd assume that the whole map is actually already there, fully rendered and what's missing is just campaign stuff, with voice lines, music and maybe some unique assets. The minimap shows enemies outside the playable zone and I'd assume that if you could glitch through the debris blocking the tunnels to the other zones, you'd find finished content, at the very least when it comes to the base gameplay.

>>23461979
Music is good, gameplay is fun and I enjoyed the heavily cell shaded full animu graphics more than the washed out realnime vibe they're going for in the sequel. Fuck, I've had it with the qouto unqout photorealistic video game graphics, it's like everyone outside of litreally who indies forgot how to produce games with distinct art direction. And you actually get to pilot a mecha instead of just zooming in slow motion in a flying armor. The story is borderline nonsensical though, the character arcs feel like a bunch of loosely strung references that have barely anything to do with the actual plot of the game and more with whatever the production staff were watching during development, probably.

>>23462095
Are back weapons usable this time around?

>>23462098 (Me)
>qouto unqout
*quote unquote
Did I just experience a brain fart?

>>23457193
Realized you just have to hold the button for it to pop up. Dumb there's no other way when you can actually do custom key combo bindings on KB unlike in pretty much any other game these days. Or just a toggle to invert the press/hold behavior for these.

>>23462233
Okay I'm genuinely retarded, there is a setting for that. Good.

>>23462099
Back cannons always worked fine for me in 1 and they seem great here too.

>>23462099
Balance is one of those things that are hard to judge without having the finished product in your hands.
Some things are strong in the early game but then scale miserably in the endgame and viceversa, back cannons don't look completely terrible so far but things missiles are hot trash as far as I'm concerned, we'll see how they turn out once the game is out and receives a year of patches and so on, e.g. laser blades used to be good in the early game of DxM but then they become unusable in the late game because they stop existing past a certain tier and even if you abuse the EN scaling gimmick they're still hot trash.

Help, I'm stuck on the horse, what key is to dismount?

>>23462340
the same key you use to get it on it

>>23462360
I just found the controls displayed on the top left of the screen. Please be patient, they may have scooped out my brain at the start of the game.

>>23461979
It's a lot rougher as an overall game than Armored Core 6 is, but it's also a lot more weird and experimental for a mech action game than 6 gets (which says a lot because 6 is weird and experimental relative to Armored Core's normal)

Dual shotguns melt big bosses. I wonder if they're going to stay usable in the actual game.

I wonder what Rebellion and Gunfort will drop in the full release, since right now they are only dropping a medium vp heal?

>>23462598
They had blueprints for special weapons in the first game.

Despite the hate the game receives here, I do like de first one a lot. It´s a shame this one is abount power armors instead of mechs, but the demo was pretty fun, got me interested enough to want the full game. Though I´m not sure if this is a sequel or just a new story with shared elements. Also, I´m not sure how the weapon skills work. Do I need to fuck myself up with mutant dna to get skills or can I just level up the weapons to unlock then?

>>23462942
Gotta become weird to get skills. Much like the first game, you gotta pay

>>23463016
Damn I really this shit. The first game had mostly passive skills so I didn´t botter, but now there´s tons of cool shit to unlock but I don´t want to look like a rejected shin megami monster for skills

>>23463029
I don't mind it but I do think the severity just jumped the shark too fast, your first fusion only giving you glowing eyes, your second suddenly giving you full body tattoos. I would've preferred a more gradual change, you know?

>>23463050
Yeah, on the original game we could pick at few upgrades without any modifications, at least. I hope they turn it down before the game releases. I´ll try to take it easy with the fusions, though it seens the game is even more geared towards using then, with all the new active skills

>>23463050
You can grab a lot of passives without morphing but, just like the first, if you want anything substantial you're transforming.
The first wave tats aren't even that bad. The second wave? Yeah you feel that.
Once the full game comes out there will undoubtedly be ways for people to dip their toes in the pull without going full ayy lmao, but the greatest of power will always go to the people who sacrifice the most humanity.

I've always liked that to be honest. Made staying human be more impactful even if objectively you get literally nothing out of it. Staying human will be even more impactful this time.

>>23462601
Rebellion also had blueprints for arsenal parts, they'll probably be still around so you can be a fat fuck in this game too
>>23463171
>Made staying human be more impactful even if objectively you get literally nothing out of it.
Nah, that sucked, give me something for staying fully human even if it's just NPCs acknowledging that.

>>23461979
if you like giant robots more than power armor yes. It is easier than ac6 since your have perma flight save for the dungeon mode. Best to get it on sale

>>23463171
I only got the few upgrades that didn´t change my looks in the first game. I really hope this one is lenient enough to let me get at least some basic skills before I start looking weird.
>>23463181
Agree, there should be a reason to stay human other than looks. A different story route, npc interactions, or maybe give us skills that are just pilot abilities that don´t change anything, but the crazies stuff needs you to get the AYY blood. There´s no reason why I need to get weird tattoos in order to learn how to spin around while firing my weapons since we could do this in the original as a standard action

>>23461979
In some aspects I like DxM more than AC6. The game takes a little too long before you get actual options for customizing your mech, but once you get to a point where you´re staring at the hangar for longer than you spent time in missions because you gotta pick the best parts for you playstyle, at least for my tastes, it´s where the game shines the most

Really like the Wing System (WS). Also has anyone gotten past the acid room?

So if I pay to restore the body, will all my skills be removed?

I hate how going lightweight is pointless when going additionally vertical throws off AI even when I'm using the fattest Arsenal I can manage. Then again, I'm underpowered and exploring the far corners of the map without progressing the story because I'm waiting for my friends to get to co-op

>>23463488
>acid room
Where's that? I know there's poison swamp but acid room? There aren't that many rooms and they're all inside either the copypasted outposts or the copypasted tunnels.

>>23463603
It's a full body cleanse. You open all the pores, so that the mutant bug juice can flow out, all of it.

>that one photon laser beam saber skill
We're so back.

Anyone knows if having more maximum femto makes laser weapons deal more damage or if it´s just about the percentage you have?

>>23463488
Don't think it's possible right now. Like getting Dainslef early except actually literally impossible.
You have to be on that keypad for like 20 seconds. There's no way to trade or outlast the acid and it kills you through both horse and car.
Guard shift doesn't stop it from killing you and max corrosion resistance/VP does virtually nothing to slow down the speed with which you die.

I'm actually curious on what the solution is going to actually end up being. Like I wonder if you can filter the room or whatever.
>>23464027
Just percentage

>>23463814
You have some more exploring to do anon. Relative to the map, it's the 2nd outpost tower in the far lower left. Funny thing is, it's behind a breakable wall, which they had in the 1st DxM, but this one is camouflaged pretty well. But it reveals itself in the option map. There is another room across the acid room. But like anon here said>>23464061, it's nearly impossible to stand inside there, even with constant medium and small VP kits, because every tic disrupts the keypad and it's every 5 seconds or less. AND it completely depletes your VP to 0 with armor break.

>>23461979
It has some neat ideas but it's a 4/10 for me. Enjoy AC6 thoroughly first.

>>23461979
DXM1 6/10
DXM2 so far seems like it'll be a 7/10
ACVI 8.5/10


ACFA 9.5/10

>>23461979
the game's story is absolute ass. but some of the missions are pretty fun, especially the dungeon mode.

>>23461979
On a sale or for free
It's not bad, a solid 6.5/10

>>23463619
Shame since going fast feels so much better. On the plus side, the grounded jump/bhop is a fantastic movement option for lightweights since you can regen juice while going 90% full speed, or just cover a larger distance than the emergency dash with instant accel. I've also noticed that the starting mecha is rated the highest rank in energy efficiency, and that special moves spend energy, so there's some evidence that energy will be tighter later, which being light also helps with.

>Silver Raven is still the best
Old faithful... I missed you...

Wondering if I keep this save for the full release or start over. If my friends actually get it too as they say they will, I might start fresh so I wont have a headstart over then, but then again, can´t say the demo gives us a lot to work with. Maybe I´ll just start over so I don´t have those ugly tattoos anymore with skills I don´t even use...I hate this system so much, why botter making a character customization if you´re going to ruin it so fast, the tutorial already forces you to fuck up your eyes

>>23464454
It's retarded and I have no idea why they insist on keeping this feast or famine idea, at least in the first game you could become a cool cyborg so it wasn't that terrible.

>>23464496
I completely ignored the body mods in the first game since they were mostly passive buffs, outside the blink at the end of one tree. This time there are tons of actual abilities to be used requiring you to fuck up your character. Even skills like spin shooting that were regular skills on the first game are now locked behind mutations. Hate this shit, why even botter giving levels for weapon skills if you gonna lock abilities behind mutations instead of that

>>23464522
Going through one of the upgrade trees would let your outer fly around like in this game, it was kinda useless outside of certain infinite dungeon maps, but it was cool

>>23464522
Those passive buffs were extremely good. Shit like virtually cutting reload in half and super-maxxing lunge distance/melee damage were near requirements if you wanted to push anywhere near the max. Your outer was completely unusable until they gave you the option to turn into a cybernetic flying freak (the body of which is admittedly pretty nice)

The skyrider or w/e it's called wasn't "good" per se. But you can kill the final boss as an outer "easily" now and it really helped in acid+water dungeon rooms.
That said I do feel the sting of losing the spin shot as a default option. People HATED accidentally spinning. Even to this day it's one of the things people whinge about. But, I used that shit intentionally all the time for the virtual unlimited ammo. The only way you were taking double grim reapers anywhere in post.

However, the new spin IS an improvement (excluding ammo economy). Being useable with all flavors of weapon configurations, giving iframes, having a modular duration, and being slightly easier to control.

>>23464555
Never had a problem using the spin by accident in the original, will surelly miss being able to use it like before, since if felt like an advanced move that most people wouldn´t botter. And yes, the passive buffs were massive, but if you never had then, you don´t really feel it. It´s different if you´re used to then and then stop using it. If you go the whole game without using any of then, you really won´t feel the need. Now though, if you want to do any of the cool moves, you gotta look like a freak

>>23464454
>the tutorial already forces you to fuck up your eyes
Nah you can just back out and it lets you. Honestly I don't have a problem with such a system but its very shallow in the sense that there's no alternative skills for refusing to mutate. I'd be totally ok with the mutant skills being way better, but I want to have more tools to work with and some actual gameplay/story agency regarding whether or not you become a mutant. As it is, I don't think there's any point to it being set up this way. The demo is already pretty easy too so I'm concerned about how trivial the mutations could make it.

>>23464632
If they had a distinction of skills learned by leveling up your rank with weapons, since that´s a new thing, and skills that are more out-there and not really natural for a regular dude to be able to do, I´d be ok with that. I´d focus on regular skills and that´s it. But oh no, you want to shield bash a dog in the face? Gotta inject monster blood for that

>everyone complaining about their fleshbag getting H+ed again

There's probably a cosmetic override buried somewhere for your Outer, I know one exists for the Arsenal this go around. Hell maybe if you bitch loud enough they'll patch one in after the fact, it's not like the previous game didn't show the devs will go the extra mile to add shit out of left field or anything.

But also, y'all are still cowards.

>>23464724
I mean it really does contrast with being able to straight up hide all parts except legs and transmog them freely.

>>23464724
I'd totally turn my outer into an ayylmao abomination like I turned my outer in DxM into a human sized fighter jet, thing is the Immortal forms all look like dogshit so I don't really have any reason to be happy about being once again locked into a poorly designed system.
Make me look like Guyver 3 or fuck off

>>23464724
I've got complicated feelings. Like yeah I won't complain if there's a way around it, but the fact that I even care about it at all means that the system works.
Being ruffled because I want to both eat my cake and have it is something I'm aware is nonsensical.

>>23464779
Some of it just doesn't make sense, I wouldn't say it works right. We could somehow blink the whole big robot by just augmenting the body in the first one, but with downscaled arsenals we now need to mutate to do it for some reason instead of that shit being integrated into the suit? Like the jetpack basically was.
Also kinda wish they kept the augs as an alternative.

>>23464724
I think its aesthetically and thematically cooler to for a character to reject modifications and still win with better skill. Also it's silly for a game to make a big deal out of how you meed to fuck yourself up for power, but then not actually utilize that in any meaningful way. If you decide to become an ayylium mutant then you should get freaky bioweapon powers but the contrast should be staying human gives you less flashy/high damage skills that let you approach combat differently. I'll probably just go ahead and use them when the game comes out, but its still a half assed implementation.

>>23464724
I woudn´t care if looking like an alien freak gave me alien freak powers. But I need that just to do basic moves that I could do on the original game by default

>>23464786
>We could somehow blink the whole big robot by just augmenting the body in the first one, but with downscaled arsenals we now need to mutate to do it for some reason
No normal human was blinking in any condition. Grief was a super radiated pseudo-chosen one and even he lost that ability when he got reconfigured into the final boss.

This setting also clearly has less ambient femto energy in the air given you're not playing the game in a hyper irradiated hell hole. The only thing that doesn't make sense is the singular one move that was lost by default. The spin.

>>23464802
I'm not talking about normal humans but heavily augmented (You) teleporting an entire mecha around without even upgrading the mecha itself. It's all sci-fi bullshit anyway, but if that sci-fi pseudoscience allowed blinkin in the first one, why do we need biomods to do it now? Why not a less intrusive aug or an suit function?
And as has been mentioned, some of the skills aren't so impressive that you should need monster parts to do it when you already have a powersuit on. At least this time around the mutations affecting arsenal performance makes more sense than it did before.
Hell, they could have at least incorporated part hiding into this as more than a cosmetic choice. Except I wouldn't actually want that because I don't really want to mutate at all, and I'm just rambling at this point.

>>23464818
>but if that sci-fi pseudoscience allowed blinkin in the first one, why do we need biomods to do it now?
Because cybernetics don't exist.
Still, here's counterpoint. You could blink an entire mech but you couldn't blink a fully mechanized outer.

DO I really have to become a mutant to get more powerful? really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSXGKlruTww

>>23464821
Fair enough, but we're playing as an arse 2.0 now instead of a aug'd outer.

>>23464824
I'm very confused why do this?

>>23464824
Yes, most of the discussion in this thread is folks bitching about it and how dumb it is that basic skills are locked behind looking like a rejected Digital Devil Saga character. I know because I´m half of the posts bitching about it

>>23464802
Talking about setting, is this even the same universe as the first game or just new story with some repeating elements and reused assets?

>>23464836
>dumb it is that basic skills are locked behind looking like a rejected Digital Devil Saga character.
If they are that upset then those people weren't serious about become stronger sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil to get results.

>>23464838
The problem with that is that games that do give you that choice tend to
a) Give you some sort of reason not to do that
b) Have the decency of giving you skills that make sense for the faustian bargain, not just throwing a sword or parrying shit which for some reason you need to inject yourself with ayylmao juice to learn
c) You usually turn yourself into something cool instead of looking super lame

>>23464838
As I said before, I wouldn´t mind, hell, I´d even consider looking like an abomination if I got actually cool moves that are clearly non-human. But why do I need to fuck my character up in order to spin around while I shoot my guns? Or charge forwards holding my shield up to slam at some dude? That´s not super cool mutant powers, that´s just regular stuff a more skilled pilot could pull off. They should just have a separate skill system for mutations and weapon levels. One focusing on crazy stuff and other on regular pilot stuff

>>23464838
Honestly I wouldn't care much if we were still doing giant robots, but I was planning to play around with part hiding and maybe do a full melee run with only powerlegs visible, which most melee skills being locked behind mutations throws a wrench into. It's either full armor or full mutant then.

>>23464844
I wanna know whose Idea was it to make us look like monsters from hr giger and not at least give us skills that are worth the trade off

>>23464836
>is this even the same universe as the first game or just new story with some repeating elements and reused assets?
Same universe. Everything points towards this being a deep sequel on a distance planet. This could be another planet on the current timeline by I somewhat doubt it given that nobody is talking about a cracked moon and even if it was nearly a millennium has passed.

Femto particles still corrupt life which is why there's monsters in the wild now. Really I wouldn't think much about the first game's story it was rubbish and clearly slap together to make it across the finish line;
>Nobody besides like you and one other person uses the different particle forms.
>Like two people blinked.
>Solomon is presented as some super badass but isn't and just gets handled and that's it.
>Nobody was capable of leaving their mechs besides you
>nobody else could mirage
Most of that could be handwaved by us being a grief clone (big deal) who then augmented themselves.

Anyways given this is a sequel, immortal devouring (actually that DDS reference is pretty apt given that's exactly what we're doing) is probably still part of some master plan to force evolution on humanity.
There's still going to be silly things where "regular" people have superpowers. Then again, the ones ones that did in the first game were clones, just AI, or Grief, so who knows. But what I DO know is that Verve was using limiter release
So he's probably some whacky genetic experiment.

Speaking of whacky, I really REALLY like what they did with chaining two different melee weapons together in regards to critical range. Makes the dagger substantially more useable.

>>23464836
Couple hundred years after first game, long enough that some drift in terminology exists, which the opening blurb gives a rough idea of what's what now.

But still vague about how much of the setting is ancient Martian astronauts, not that the first game was really explicit about it unless you knew where to look (plus, last I checked Mars wasn't due to tear apart one of its own moons irl for a looooong time)

>>23464897
>Really I wouldn't think much about the first game's story it was rubbish and clearly slap together to make it across the finish line;

>writing is when gameplay mechanics

>>23464922
I should have added "in regards to gameplay" but I only noticed after I hit post so we're rocking it.

Nothing. Fucking nothing.

>>23464981
sick, i kinda assumed that wasn't possible.

>>23460061
enjoyed the demo a lot, game feels good to play and still has kind of a mecha feel

>>23464990
It isn't.

When quick swapping weapons, is there a way to make it so that you only pull from the weapons you have on that side? Coming from DxM 1, not really liking this new system.

>>23465005
Not sure about this but you can hold the side buttons to open a little window with all avaliable weapons with a direction for each

>>23465005
I've played a little over two hours of the demo. I would have loved a game like this 5 years ago. But right now, I think I just don't have the patience and time for this. When I got to the open world and saw all the busywork around (mining, bases, etc), I just... I'm not going to play the final version.

Good luck to you guys.

>>23465017
understandable, especially for 70 bucks

>>23464981
HAHAHAHA

>80% of beacons I've got is for areas not available in the demo.
It really is supposed to make me want to play the full release, huh.

Will there be other maps? I really didn't like the desert because of all the rocky formations.

I liked:
- combat feel
- customization
- power armor design
- cars

I didn't like:
- ubisoft open world with strongholds
- aerial combat feels really weird and half-baked
- not dissing the demo (probably changes in the full game), but the enemies feel really samey, maybe because of the coloring

Just found out you can just paint your tattoos the same color as your skin and set the glow to black and they´re gone.

>>23465122
The glow is still (kind of) there on the darker or nonstandard (blue/purple/green/etc) skin tones
But yeah even as far as stage 2 it's mostly invisible.

Can also make the "scars" look like glowy ayy lmao scars and not some demifiend tats.
All of which is good because no matter what I was fusing up as far as this visor. And assuming it went as far as the body is the last thing to go I was going to be aiming specifically for "might" fusions for the arms and legs.

>>23465143
I have no idea how the fusion works, I just shove whatever I find in the machine and hope to unlock something. I want the laser sword skill but no idea if it´s even possible to gain in the demo

>>23465145
Not in the demo the factors we can get from these low level goombas don't go that high. You can get up to 2 on each color.

Anyways when you kill a thing and go to loot it you can absorb it's factor.
Can't remember the button but there's a button that shows you a list of all possible fusions you could get from a factor when you go to loot it. You can also check the entire list of skills from the terminal you use to fuse.

After that all you do is go to enemies that have the factor's you need, kill them, and absorb the factors. I don't know how mutations work though in regards to transformations. I've taken on skills and passives without transforming and have also had passives transform me with enough of them on me, so there's probably an internal point system based on the type of fusion class and passing the threshold gives you a mutation... Or something. I guess we'll find out when the full game launches and if/when it gets datamined.

>>23461979
If you're not a Fromdrone complaining about "muh weight" you'll probably enjoy it, it's like a lower budget AC4 with co-op features and more emphasis on looting and grinding.

Did the DXM devs play Anthem and decide "actually fuck you we'll do it" and made their sequel Anthem + AC? Because if so then I salute them, this feels cool.

>>23456610
Thanks anon. I love Toby already, kind of hard to tell how much he's an actual human vs a robot.

>>23465261
They actually played XBX and thought "hey but what if YOU were mecha" and then you were mecha.

>>23465373
I mean, one of my dream games for the longest time has been
>Xenoblade Chronicles X, but the combat was armored core and not the MMO tab target stuff
So if they can replicate even a fraction of XCX's world or charm I'll probably be very happy.

>>23465005
>>23465013
You can also change hold to one press in settings, but for some fucking reason back weapons swap sides arbitrarily, so if you try to switch
>left -> left2
>right -> right2
and back then same way, somehow you end up with left+right2.

>>23465382
I can't say DXM2 is all that I wanted out of XBX2, but an exosuit, action combat, and being able to use only melee or only ranged were on my wishlist for it for a while. Still, I'm greedy and want both, and now I'll be less disappointed if XBX2 proper doesn't end up actually having any of that.

So yeah this is pretty cool. Not getting my hopes up for exploration being anywhere near as enjoyable though.

>>23464632
It's just players who prioritize form vs players who prioritize function. That's all.

So, any secrets or cool stuff to do in the demo, or is doing all the quests and grinding some gear all there is to it?

>>23465509
I think the room behind the acid room was supposed to pretend to be a secret but since there's nothing there you wouldn't find anywhere else, the intrigue has been lost. Otherwise, I don't know, enjoy beating free range bosses that drop fuck all? I guess you're just supposed to get all pumped up for the full game.

>>23465382
Yeah, I'm also mildly excited for this product specifically because of the same reasons.

>>23464897
>>nobody else could mirage
I just figured this was Daemon's Outer ability. Every Outer had one.

>>23464836
According to the official site it seems it's set something like 360 years after the first game. They call Earth both "The Red Planet" and "Earth Prime". But Titanic Scion is set on "The Blue Planet" which is a planet humanity colonized after the first game. Eventually, before the game, the blue planet and earth went to war over the blue planet's independence. In the end they signed a non intervention treaty and cut off all contact between the planets.

>>23465524
Most of them were the result of either being Grief or having one or more parts cyberized. I think like 4 people's unique "ability" was that they could think well which increased [stat] by 10%. And IIRC Johnny G nor Artist had any standout abilities. Actually now that I think on it, Empress was an AI and all she got was a better radar.

Forbes reviewer apparently finished the game and is doing post game stuff at 70+ hours. Nintendolife preview says there's a day one patch for switch 2 performance that helps a lot.
>>23465545
Well, some of their outer abilities aren't combat related, yeah. Most aren't even mentioned in the game proper, though they're explained in the sourcebook. But yeah, on the one hand you've got someone like Johnny who got bupkiss, then someone like Nemesis whose cells don't age, and then fucking Grief with his laplace demon calculation bullshit.

>>23465571
>Nintendolife preview says there's a day one patch for switch 2 performance that helps a lot.

I sure hope so, because the demo's performance sure felt like a nostalgic return to playing the first game on the Switch, warts and all.

>>23465571
70 hour in reviewer time is like 40 hours in 4chaner time and 120 hours in my time.

>>23465609
yeah, though like I said, that's including dicking around in post game. The first DxM had a fuckton of stuff to farm afterwards with the team battles, online superbosses, and exploration mode. So it wouldn't surprise me if there's a ton of shit to do after beating the game.

>>23465634
exploration mode and (some) of the bosses were freeDLC weren't they? I'm sure they'll probably support post release as well.
I find it funny that the thing I'm most excited about is actually just the motorcycle.
Heavy armor is cool too though.

>>23465763
yeah, exploration mode and the some of the bosses were patched in, like the souped of version of the final boss and the boss from the anime short.

>>23465887
>anime short
???

>>23465571
>Forbes reviewer apparently finished the game
How long is the game plus side content? the first one was pretty short given this one is like 93 dollars I hope its long enough for the money's worth

>>23460061
General helm looks so goddamn cool.
>>23465571
Hopefully that patch adds gyroaim like the first game had, that turret segment in the intro was rough.

>>23465979
>given this one is like 93 dollars
???
Isn't it 70?
Don't tell me those faggots are planning to make that supposed expansion coming in October-December paid content?

Wow, handguns look like they got dumpstered in the range. The Faint Hope has a critical range band of only 2.

>>23466294
>???
>Isn't it 70?
I live in Canada we used to be 70 tho lol also I was playing online how do you get the wings?

>>23465261
With a shit eating grin like that, she's the arse part of the arsenal, isn't she?

>>23465945
>???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-5itq7L87Y
Released before DxM came out. It's the short about the Terrors, so it's set like 40 years before the game. The Eclipse was first shows here, then patched into the game later.

>>23466418
do you think we might get another one?

The game really doesn't tell you how you're going to change or show you a preview? How am I supposed to know whether I end up looking like an ayy?

>>23466456
Don't want to take a plunge into the unknown? Where's your sense of adventure, Anon?

>>23466456
Too bad you want power? look like an ugly freak that's your only choice

>>23466456
In this game you have to make a deal with the devil to get what you want and what the devil wants is your humanity

>>23466456
You wait for someone to no-life the game in 2 days and post screenshots

>>23422189
>It's mecha as long as it has mecha skin
Go play forknight then degraded faggot

>>23466319
you definitely need range mods on that to make it slightly less insufferable. But even then they're pretty hard to use. Most melee weapons are fine at their range band because emergency dodge usually takes you far enough away to be exactly in it.

On the other hand, due to the lower distances things move in general it's not hard to stay in the crit range of any of the other conventional firearms. I still want to rock pistols at some point.

>>23466319
I was just trying out a pistol + shield combo and it´s really bad. No range, no damage and slow projectile. I understand it´s a backup weapon but at this point you´re better off punching something in the face

I feel like most of the guns are just underpowered in general. Even if you're willing to deal with the poor damage, you just run out of ammo.

>>23467141
Heh I haven´t really had any trouble with ammo besides trying to kill rebellion with just guns. Everything else just a single laser rifle was enough and aways got drops of ammo from kills

>>23467137
they're for crit weakpoint hits
It's not that dissimilar from the dagger. You can land them at crit range and do "okay" damage but they clearly only exist to be used when you're already winning.
And >>23467038 is slightly off. At point blank you can space properly to enter the pistols sweetspot range from an emergency dodge.

The damage under that criteria is extremely good.
The things do nearly 100 damage a shot. A standard silver raider over it's entire mag does like 250 damage and 40 stagger. A faint hope in the same time frame does like 600 damage 60 stagger.
There's other things, the pistol is less impacted by type difference. A silver Raven hitting a hard target does like a third of the damage of a soft target, while a pistol loses like 3 points if it's fired at crit range.

>>23467152
I haven't played a whole lot, to be fair, so maybe it was just the SMGs having terrible damage per ammo. But the laser rifles felt pretty weak too.

>>23467303
Laser rifle has bad RoF AND "bullet" time(as in their projectiles are pretty slow), but they have great damage, especially if you dool weld.

>Bow - Loot Success Rate up
>Dagger - Percentage Added to Loot Success
What's the difference?

>>23467395
Disregard, I'm a retard and forgot that this game actually explains terms now.

>autododge ON negates Gunfort's energy barrier push attack for free
lol

>>23466456
You just gain glowy eyes, and glowy bits on your skin for the first 3 transformation stages
Glowy bits are organic and asymmetrical

>>23467163
>It's not that dissimilar from the dagger
At least the dagger deals hardcore damage on skullcracker even on an 80 Brawling arm
>sweetspot range from an emergency dodge
At that point better get a shotgun

>>23467423
shotgun does less damage under those conditions and sucks on small targets at the range it can get it's criticals. Seriously, like half the shots miss at that range. Given the system there's probably a way to make it's critical range and range where you land all the pellets on the weakspot one and the same.

Like yeah it's hard to use the pistols and the difficulty is why you would just use something else. But my point is that the payoff IS there inside the niche it seems like it's meant to fill.
Also I was being slightly duplicitous comparing them to dagger because dagger can piggyback off the critical range of the melee weapon in the other hand.

>>23467141
It's probably going to be like the first game where melee looks godlike at the start but scales like shit and the endgame is bazookas and rifle/machinegun weapon arms shitting on everything else and it's not even close

>>23467474
Hmm, okay

>>23467474
What arms and, if possible, attachments are you using?

>>23467651
Maybe, god I hope that's not the case again
Each melee weapon having a different special move slot

Just regular glaive arms
The attachments are for getting throwing to at or above 100.

>tfw a tv ad has zeruchroar fucking up a gunfort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIT3k6Low2Q

>>23467792
Alright We're not letting that ride. I really need to read this shit before I hit post.
>Each melee weapon having a different special move slot
*means that, at the very least, melee weapons will remain viable as utility if not for damage.


>>23467924
Sick. Man the 5th can't get here soon enough

>>23467924
Wonder if this means Zeruch will be a heavy armor option?

>>23468094
It's more likely it's some scripted infighting between enemies

>>23468110
>>23468094
It could be anything
But my personal theory, and it has more credence now seeing that commercial, is that these icons means we might be able to use, convert, or control nearby goobers. Maybe.

>>23468139
Oh yeah, one of the previews showed Hacking as a fusion skill, so you may be on to something.

What´s the point of developing gear? They seen to be rng just like regular drops but with no augment slots

>>23468408
they come with an augment slot.
And I'm assuming as we upgrade the facilities the number of guaranteed augment slots go up

Eh?

>>23468419
Well?

>>23468419
She's great, an absolute banger with her random dialogue bits. Can't wait for her to betray the protag team and join the dark side.

>>23468190
>Hacking as a fusion skill
Remember when humanity spliced itself with alien genes to learn how to use a computer?

>>23468419
I notice the girls in this game are just a little TOO pretty isn't this suppose to be post apocalyptic? they shouldn't look this amazing its bit unrealistic.

>>23468855
Wouldn't they be less marketable otherwise? Who wants unattractive characters in their vidya?

>>23468933
>Wouldn't they be less marketable otherwise? Who wants unattractive characters in their vidya?
I don't think he means that just that her skin ( in the art at least) is flawless and it really shouldn't in this kind of world

>>23469061
The previous game establishes quite clearly the triviality of pretty much growing a brand new body and uploading a mind into it. Like, it's a massive plot thread how conspicuously easy it is to just print a human into existence.


Also it's not really a post apocalypse setting, more of a rampant ecological disaster kind.

The first DxM is post apocalyptic; what with a chunk of the moon falling and hitting the Earth. I don't think this one is meant to be. It's just about assholes running the new planet with an iron fist, right?

>>23469903
First game isn't an apocalypse yet either, the damage is contained within an exclusion zone. It threatens to turn into an apocalyptic event, but until the endgame kicks in it's pretty much out of sight out of mind within the Oval Link.

>>23469903
The entirety of the first game is in an isolated quarantine area.
The rest of the world is implied to be going on as normal and using the femto mined by our cast as energy.

>>23468855
This is a universe in which short range instantaneous transportation of matter exists. Anybody that is even remotely grungy probably looks that way by choice.

>>23469903
>The first DxM is post apocalyptic;
>I don't think this one is meant to be.
Well, according to the lore one of the Gardens was used as a weapon of mass destruction and another got somehow colony dropped on not-Earth, both times causing an awful lot of dead people. It's at least a localized apocalypse, if not planetwide.
As for not-Mars not being that much of a shithole in the first game (even though those are the only parts we see), it's because the Dominator was trying to evolve humanity instead of destroying it. It probably slowed down the moon or something so it only nuked part of a continent instead of the entire planet.

>>23470011
>First game isn't an apocalypse yet either, the damage is contained within an exclusion zone. It threatens to turn into an apocalyptic event, but until the endgame kicks in it's pretty much out of sight out of mind within the Oval Link.
I always thought that was stupid feels like the developers want to have this post apocalyptic setting but won't commit to it I know I'm suppose to have disbelief for the setting and just a assume one area of earth looks like this but for me I its hard to buy the rest of the world doesn't look like that.

>>23470300
If they wanted a post apocalypse setting they would've made it one.
They didn't, they wanted the existential threat of an impending apocalypse, it is a very clear distinction.

>>23470300
nta but like half of the world was crashed when the moon fell but femto is literally a miracle material that can be made into literally anything. Endless energy, endless food, whatever you want. While at the same time the AI (before anything AI became an immortal) was super advanced and extremely efficient at building back mankind to a stable state.

It's not really a mad/metal max scenario where resources are low and people fight for what little there is left. Even in the game oval link is established as both ground zero and containment zone.

>>23470325
The AI were pretty advanced before femto was involved, as I recall. At minimum, Asimov levels three laws compliant type intelligent.
Major plot reveal in first game is they didn't become insane Immortals due to the femto so much as the Dominator's presence and potential implications for mankind's survival did exactly what you would expect would happen with three laws compliant automata: they start acting on their do no harm directives in ways that were never intended by their creators, such as trying to hunt down any humans entering the Oval Link on the off chance a single one of them could be the same guy who made first contact with the Dominator way back, but also deliberately suiciding themselves against humanity in the hopes that as salvage they could better prepare humanity for the day they once again breach through and make contact with the weird machine-god existence that descended from the moon.

Have I mentioned that there's an actual plot going on in DxM and it's some weird classic scifi flavored stuff? And that it will never not be funny that Armored Core 6 decided to go for that sort of direction only after Tsukuda did his jank silly version of it first?

Literally nobody is talking about this. Completely DOA

>>23470447
>At minimum, Asimov levels three laws compliant type intelligent.
Doomed from the start, huh?

Found a channel with some of the scannable decal locations for anyone still looking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUt5BVHfU7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOQBHC2lqH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IMcUKJTL90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8L4tOTsWTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y80UCL6NZRk

>>23470599
Well they worked exactly as designed.
Which is not the same as exactly as intended.

>>23470325
>Endless energy, endless food,
Ironic since at least for this game they look like their living in shit

>>23470325
>It's not really a mad/metal max scenario where resources are low and people fight for what little there is left
This whole game has you scavenging for scraps and parts and lets not forget about the ruins that look straight out of fist of the north star then again this is suppose to be mars and Not really earth.

>>23470767
You're scavenging for scarps but remember, every base will refill your ammo and femto for free just by going there and you can get unlimited ice creams, Mad Max survivors wish they're this lucky.

>throwing club is so slow in it's rotation it turns into a large enemy eradicator
Kinda funny

>>23470530
What is there left to talk about if you played through the demo? You want pointless speculation? I'm just waiting for the finished product.

>>23470778
>refill your ammo and femto for free just by going there and you can get unlimited ice creams, Mad Max survivors wish they're this lucky.
Alright you got me there lol

>>23470778
>You're scavenging for scarps but remember, every base will refill your ammo and femto for free just by going there and you can get unlimited ice creams, Mad Max survivors wish they're this lucky.
Honestly for new players I wouldn't be shocked if they thought "mad max" with power suits you can't blame them since the world's design gives that feeling

Question but whats the point of an heavy arm in flight mode if it just disappears after gauge is out? it functions like a xenoblade mech but with a time limit sounds like a design flaw to me why have an exploration mode if you can't even travel with it?

>>23470767
The world looks like shit, but people still have the time to buy luxuries and make complaints like this.

>>23470881
Looked to be about 40 seconds of flight speed with the default model
It's not replacing resourceless vehicles like the horse, car, or motorcycle.

And it looks to just be the mechs boost mode anyways.
More importantly
>Xenoblade
The closest analogy is XCX and the only suit with a bonified flight mode was added with Hraesvelg.
And I can tell you right now as a person who had one-itis for that skell the fuel costs going from one end of the map to another eat you alive until you upgrade into Lord.
...not to mention the amount of animation cancelling you have to do to make the thing useable because they prioritized aesthetics over actual functionality.

And speaking of Xenoblade, X and 3 (the only ones I played, so I won't speak of other entries in the series) at the very least pretended to have a living, breathing world with different ecosystems and the flora and fauna filling them. This game, on the other hand, has a rather sparse, if not just bare bones, version of that. Going by the demo, the attempt was made, but so far it seems token and just kind of there because the world is open now, which as much as I'd like to enjoy, didn't show me anything as much as approaching the sights such as the ones in XCX or 3. I wonder if the finished product will deliver.

>>23470767
Daemon x Machina takes place on Earth. Don't get confused because they call Earth "the red planet".
Titanic Scion's own blurb reminds you of this.
>Hundreds of years after the battle for the red soil of Earth Prime, humans colonized the Blue Planet

>>23471155
Earth Prime is all but confirmed to be Mars.

>>23471309
It's earth's moon. It's not Phobos or Deimos.

>use optic blast fusion skill
>get temporarily blinded
ok, that's funny.

With the limited options we have in the demo I managed to make some suits I really like.

>>23471862
Trying to get a full set of that war scythe stuff before I put the demo down and wait patiently.

New special axiom facility vid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQheIG2N8E
map section that comes up briefly seems to show tabs for other biomes as well.

>most fusion skills are for melee weapons
>only a single generic slot
>kick takes it up
Lame.

>>23471928
Oh my is that an honest to goodness dungeon?
Oh it sure is, that's sick. Actual bosses this time instead of 1 (3) Arsenals.
>there (can be) multiple levels
Sick
>have to make it to the exit to keep your loot
Neat
>multiplayer only requires one card
Also swell

I'm going to "waste" a retardedly large amount of time down there before even getting to end game.

>>23471086
Good lord, I hate XBX glazers so much it's unreal.
No, that dogshit game did not pretend to have anything, you have the same exact five or so mook models but with a pallete swap for for each of the five biomes, most of them are completely stationary too, none of them even try to interact with each other either.
It tries even less than this game in fact since at the very least in here you have things like outers running around with cars and shit and more than FIVE (5, cinque, 五) generic band- ehm, GROWTH camps with identical designs, XBX is one of the laziest cases of open world with ridiculously low quality content out there, and the game doesn't even have the decency of giving you your DOLLs before the game is almost over anyway and you already "explored" 80% of what little there is to actually see in that empty, lifeless vivarium.

>>23472006
>and the game doesn't even have the decency of giving you your DOLLs before the game is almost over anyway and you already "explored" 80% of what little there is to actually see in that empty, lifeless vivarium.
I've only played the both versions of the game with the cheats on, so I've got my endgame flying dolls right whenever the AM Terminal unlocked. It actually made the game a vastly more enjoyable experience.
>GROWTH camps
?

>>23471928
oh and I just noticed it's also got the platforming-esque segments. Which will undoubtedly be easier now that you have better rotational camera control. I wonder if joining mid way is possible with these things. Getting bailed out by a person dynamic entrying in would be cool.
But the other side of that is being married to your situation would raise intensity

I can't wait