Was Reconguista in G a bad show to start Gundam with? It feels weirdly paced, there's simultaneously a ton of information but nothing happens, characters feel like they're aliens, and the whole thing is very strange but not in an interesting way

>>23399952 (OP)
>but nothing happens
That's not true.

Why wouldn't you just start at the beginning?

Honestly, yeah, kind of.

>>23399952 (OP)
You got a taste of what Late Tomino is like. Now you can enjoy Zeta, ZZ, CCA, F91, Victory and Turn A without getting confused.

>>23399962
I've had trouble getting into older mecha before and a 50 episode 70s series was too much for the start

>>23399977
Bad news then friend, if you can't stomach old mecha or long mecha, then this interest might not be for you. A lot of the best mecha shows were written in the 80's, and it's rare for any of them to be anything less than 40 episodes or span multiple entries (look at Votoms or Macross or LoGH, for example).

Which is not to say that more recent mecha shows and AU Gundams are not good, just that the older ones are better. And all mecha is self-referential in the long run, so watching the old stuff helps you to appreciate the new stuff.

>>23399977
Then start with Gundam 00 lil bro...

>>23399952 (OP)
It's a waste of great character designs and animations. Senility is just a part of life.
I remember someone said you better watch Tomino's non-Gundam shows made before this. Similar designs and themes, they say.

>>23399995
Really good starter entry and honestly one of the best (season 1 anyways)

>>23399952 (OP)
G Reco is usually rated as like, THE worst show in the series. It's also said to be confusing even by the longest time fans

>>23399960
>local boy wants to fuck his Hot Sister
wow, I guess that's Something

>>23399952 (OP)
Do the movies really improve it THAT much

>>23400087
they were pretty good

>>23400087
Most of the added scenes are more character moments for Aida and Bellri

>>23400012
She was so hot with her hair down on the first couple of episodes then they sorta nerfed her. The sister reveal killed her completely. Why Tomino why!?!

>>23399952 (OP)
Holy Filtered

>>23400087
It’s a freakish chimera of edits and cuts where for the first three films they take maybe one second from every single scene (with 1 having worse pacing for it, 2 being generally the same, and 3 having one new couple minute scene but losing multiple important ones) to pay for adding an hour to Film 4 that blows your dick off and makes it by far the best of the bunch and worth the project. Then 5 is a big nothing.
They also “clean up” dialogue to make it “easier to follow” but mostly that just means characters sound dumber and entire conversations can be altered because of information they may or may not now have thanks to the cuts and changes. While it’s more complete than the 0079 trilogy, I really can’t say it replaces the show at all. Except movie 4. Movie 4 fucking rules

>>23399952 (OP)
Yes and no, I don’t regret it but watching the 0079 trilogy and CCA before finishing it helped

>>23399952 (OP)
It's a pleb filter.

>>23399952 (OP)
G-Reco is unironically an IQ test. If you didn't get it, you're probably in the 90-100 range (which is nothing to be ashamed of, it just means you're normal)

>>23399952 (OP)
>there's simultaneously a ton of information but nothing happens
Welcome to Gandamu now get out

>>23400125
They should've fucked after the reveal.

>>23400087
Yes, they’re the definitive way to watch G-Reco by far

>>23399952 (OP)
Tomino is an acquired taste.

>>23399952 (OP)
>Was Reconguista in G a bad show to start Gundam with?
Yea.
Frankly, you need to watch at least the original Gundam 0079 to be able to understand any other Gundam show. At the very least the 3 compilation movies.
Even the AU's which aren't related to it: they're building on the original Gundam's tropes.
G no Reconguista is hardly connected to the UC timeline-wise, but it *is* technically UC and is heavily connected to the UC conceptually. I can't imagine watching G-Reco without an understanding of Newtypes.

You need to at least watch 0079 to be able to begin to understand G-Reco, but on top of this it riffs on a lot of concepts from Zeta, ZZ, and Turn A
Mask has more weight when compared to Char
Raraiya is interesting when compared to both Lalah and Kamille (MAJOR SPOILERS for the ending of Zeta and the start of ZZ:) Zeta ends with Kamille getting severe brain damage, in a similar way to Rarayia's brain damage by hypoxia, and spends the first half of ZZ recovering, also similar to Raraiya
Bellri makes a lot more sense when viewed as a newtype like Amuro/Kamille/Uso, etc.
The philosophy of the antagonist makes more sense when compared to Char and the antagonists of Turn A - where a lot of what he's doing is very understated in G-Reco to the point where I wonder if he'd even register as an antagonist in the first several episodes.
There's probably a lot more sticking points than just these for a total newcomer

G-Reco is one of my favorite shows. Possibly my favorite anime ever.
But I would guess that unless you're a really special type of person it will be difficult as a first Gundam.
It's even difficult for longterm Gundam fans: it's not like certain things about the pacing and the way information is delivered gets any easier even with familiarity with the series.
If you were interested enough in G-Reco to try it as a first Gundam, it might actually be something that you will click with in the future.
But watch at least 0079

>>23402003
>I can't imagine watching G-Reco without an understanding of Newtypes.
I must add to this, if you are coming to G-Reco off of GQuuuuuuX, GQ is not sufficient to give you an understanding of Newtypes.
The concept is introduced the best way in 0079, since the whole show is building to it, and the introduction of Newtypes is basically the climax.
GQ Newtypes have some funny things going on with their characterization, where a lot of it's really good, the kind of quick understanding and moving freely in the right direction of Amate, but then you also have this weird concept of "dark newtypes" not in the original and feels kinda Evangelion (there would be antagonistic newtypes, but it's the people who are dark themselves: their esper abilities were incidental), and you have the bizzare scene towards the end of the show which explains away Newtype abilities as happening or being enhanced by Minovsky particles - which is never established in any other Gundam and kinda cheapens the idea that Newtypes are naturally that powerful as psychics.

>>23399952 (OP)
It is really the worst thing to ever happen to Gundam.
The potential was incredible. A Tomino directed Gundam animated by the people behind Eureka 7. A dream come true for some.
The whole thing is so irredimable not even the movies, which were made to "fix" the awful dialogue and nonsense story could set it right. It couldn't even do the one thing Gundam is supposed to do: sell toys. Most of the designs are so childish and lame nobody wants them. The few designs that can be considered good (the Gundams, Armorzagan) didn't get the love they deserve.
This anime buried Tomino's carrier for the forseable future. It's a true trainwreck of a show that needs to be forgotten.

>>23402040
>It is really the worst thing to ever happen to Gundam.
Write this again without sounding like you're unreasonably angry.

>>23402040
stick to A/Z

>>23402144
NTA but I think it’s funny that westerners defend one of the worst Gundam productions in history by telling people to “stick to” a significantly better and more acclaimed series
It’s like saying “you don’t like Bubsy 3D? Stick to Mario 64, faggot”

>>23402152
>significantly better and more acclaimed series
lol, typical A/Zfag

>>23402174
You are living in fantasy land if you think that isn’t true
Urobuchi never had to publicly apologize for AZ

I have never watched AZ

>>23402203
newfag alert...
urobuchi wrote a detailed review of g-reco, heaping praises on the show for making him genki
while he quietly distanced himself from a/z, that show was the laughing stock of /m/ when it aired

>>23402454
>that show was the laughing stock of /m/
LOL

>>23402454
You don’t speak for us, tourist

I never see anyone talk about A/Z.
Not saying it's a bad show or anything, I just never see anyone talk about it.

>>23402649
It is a bad show and you're bad at noticing things. We've had an A/Z thread on the board for the past three weeks (but it doesn't show up much, because it is a bad show in a not particularly entertaining way).

>as a 2014 oldfag let me tell you about when /m/ was good

>>23402174
A.Z can be bad and still be drastically better than G-Reco.

>>23402863
But it isn't.

>>23402649
A/Z isn't just bad, it's boring bad, not even Eggs' autism can help carry it because he's autistic in a really boring way.

>>23402886
It objectively is