Thread 23401169 - /m/

Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:24:54 AM No.23401169
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This is the most blatant, shamlessly pro-Zeon propaganda I've ever seen. Why the fuck was this made?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:48:46 AM No.23401216
Because gundam has run its course and become pozzed
Sure, the Federation was never truly good but every subsequent work after 079 has downplayed,excused and glorified zeon's bullshit, while retconning more and more Federation atrocities in. Now the franchise is pure Zeonwank and Fed shitting.
Requiem is no fucking different.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:07:57 AM No.23401259
>>23401169 (OP)
1. Cool your panties, it's a work of fiction, there's no reason to get this bent out of shape over a 6 episode ONA.

2. Zeon fanboys have existed for as long as the franchise has, if anything I'm surprised it took forty-five years for a pro-Zeon show to come out.

3. It's a western work, and the whole point of this project was to give westerners a shot and let them make a Gundam show from a different perspective. Remember that the last time they allowed westerners to touch their franchise, we got G-Saviour.

4. It wasn't even that pro-Zeon, and you must have brain problems if you think it is. Even in the original, Tomino never portrayed Zeon as completely ruthlessly evil. The top level leadership were worse obviously, and by default they were the antagonists due to being the opponents of the titular Gundam. But 0079 only ever showed the colony drop in passing, and colony gassing was never even a thing, plus a nuke was only ever actually used once. But by and far the rank-and-file Zeon soldiers weren't much different from the White Base crew. Zeon atrocities were for the most part expanded on in later works and not all that present in 0079.

5. Unicorn was a lot more pro-Zeon than this.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 6:23:48 AM No.23401426
>>23401169 (OP)
>Protagonist decides to perpetuate the already over war by joining Africa zeon in order to "stop child soldiers from being used" despite that meaning her abandoning her own kid
Yeah I guess if you don't consider the actions the characters take and just assume whoever the pov is must be in the right it's pro zeon
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:03:27 AM No.23401480
>>23401259
>it's a work of fiction, there's no reason to get this bent out of shape
I don't really see how OP was overreacting. Their assessment is pretty reasonable and level headed.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:08:45 AM No.23401491
I don't get why/how this was made either. It's a really weird niche story to tell when you're trying to gain new audiences with an international co-pro. It just feels like a particularly bad Igloo season with more up to date CG. Nothing in it feels inspired enough to justify animating. At least Igloo had cool experimental designs.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:14:04 AM No.23401507
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>>23401491
Oh, it was definitely better than Igloo.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:34:36 AM No.23401629
>>23401259
>if anything I'm surprised it took forty-five years for a pro-Zeon show to come out.
You can absolutely argue they have been around since like 0080
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:40:09 AM No.23401633
GquuuuuX was way worse
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:42:04 AM No.23401636
>>23401507
I absolutely never understood what was up with those. A lot of the more stylised animation they went with either looked good or you could see what they were going for, but I genuinely do not know why the fuck the Zeon landers moved like that.
Shame too, because the general idea of the EFGF setting up a defensive position and trying to delay the first waves of the landing force is really cool. I hope something on-screen tackles that first landfall again some time.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:50:49 AM No.23401648
Fandom wants Zeon.
Fandom gets Zeon.
Shits bed as a result.

Y'all are a joke.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:32:43 AM No.23401679
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>>23401636
Oh, that's far from the only time the animation in Igloo was weird or stupid for the sake of looking cool.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:36:02 AM No.23401681
>>23401216
>prospace nazis/space imperial japan
>pozed
??????
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:49:23 PM No.23401895
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This is the most blatant, shamlessly pro-Zeon propaganda I've ever seen. Why the fuck was this made?
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:17:04 PM No.23402004
>>23401169 (OP)
Never watched this shit because every character looks like they use pronouns.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:32:31 PM No.23402027
>>23402004
You have to be over 18 to post on this website, anon.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:37:31 PM No.23402035
>>23401259
>it wasn't even that pro-zeon
you can't be serious
the show presents zeon as an oppressed victim group behing hounded by the evil federation.... during their INVASION OF EARTH
they came to earth in military force and began attacking, and the show depicts feddies as the aggressors
they literally talk about how they wish the federation forces would just leave them alone, it's totally unhinged
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:53:21 PM No.23402077
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This is the most blatant, shamlessly pro-Zeon propaganda I've ever seen. Why the fuck was this made?
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:58:12 PM No.23402083
>>23402035
>the bad guys are so deranged that they're disconnected from reality
>somehow this means that the bad guys are being portrayed as the good guys
Anon, if a show actually were pro-Zeon then it would do shit like highlight the corruption of the Federation government, or show them torturing Zeon prisoners, or things like that.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:14:37 PM No.23402115
>>23401169 (OP)
If this is really a Zeon propaganda piece, why is it so hideously ugly?
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:15:31 PM No.23402116
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>>23401169 (OP)
feddies are just a bunch of nonames, they aren't interesting at all
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:43:06 AM No.23403044
>>23402035
Don't you understand anon, muh ideals!
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:48:21 AM No.23403310
>>23401169 (OP)
I am so glad that troll second from the right got vaporized in the first episode
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:49:01 AM No.23403407
>>23403310
>>23399837
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:44:55 AM No.23403563
>>23402083
absurd mental gymnastics
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:50:42 AM No.23404064
>>23401169 (OP)
Gundam has always been woke. The main hero literal awakes into a Newtype and is always in an interracial relationship.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:22:25 AM No.23404088
>>23402035
That's how the average Zeon works, really. They were told the Federation was oppressing their rights, so they took up arms under the Zabis and got to fighting. They literally think they're some heroic rebel force fighting the evils of a facist regime that is putting the boot down on spacenoids, with the hype for the battle helping obfuscate that nobility is carting them off to their demises for petty power plays.
Does RoV play it rather unironically? Yeah, a bit, you can tell the creators were kind of idiots with the idea, but it really isn't far off the mark for the extreme idealism any zeek would actually have for their side, if the One Year War didn't break them already.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:41:41 AM No.23404102
>>23401169 (OP)
>pro-Zeon propaganda
>Most of the screen time is them running away from the Gundam as it pursues them like it's the fucking Terminator

I dunno about you champ, but that's a pretty weird way to do propaganda.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:45:36 AM No.23404115
>>23403563
/m/ is all about those. Just look at the way they fellate the Titans and then go silent when most Titans remnants join Neo Zeon anyway.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:47:37 AM No.23404117
>>23404102
Were you supposed to agree with the terminator?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:06:38 AM No.23404138
>>23404117
No, but why complain when the supposed "Good guys" are getting mowed down?
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:12:45 AM No.23404149
Feds forced the lower class onto colonies at gunpoint and are surprised they rebelled. Zeon might also be bad but I don't see how anyone could watch all of UC and think feds are good guys
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:43:06 PM No.23404405
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>>23401216
>Now the franchise is pure Zeonwank and Fed shitting.
this, GQuuuuuuX and Hathaway's Flash just sealed the deal.
slightly related: a feddie whore manipulated Flanagan (one of Garma's henchmen) into killing half his people and cucked him. Dumbass forgot you cant trust women in a Gundam series. also the bull has already bested him in combat
>>23404102
it portrays them as dindus that just want to abandon the hellscape that is earth. let's just pretend they werent the invaders
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:57:54 PM No.23404446
I like Zakus, sue me.
That's not to say there aren't any good federation mobile suits, but Zakus just look so good.
Rick Doms and Gouf are also up there.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:03:19 PM No.23404460
only because they arent as boxy as feddie suits. the external coolant pipes still look retarded
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:38:53 PM No.23404526
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>>23404405
a fucking Gogg pilot unbelievable
imagine still feeling like a man after being in that eggshaped, diaper wearing thing
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:41:55 PM No.23404535
>>23401169 (OP)
Iria literally is shown dissapointed at Zeon and their actions.

>>23401216
>Because gundam has run its course and become pozzed

What the fuck are you saying? The federation is literally the representation of modern globalism in its worst form.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 3:56:51 PM No.23404680
>>23401169 (OP)

This was a great project that dud everything it set out to do. The only downside is the horrible English voice acting. Even though the lip movements don't match, the Japanese audio track is far superior.

Don't sleep on this. It's actually quite good. Feels like a World War II film with mechs.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:04:17 PM No.23404696
>>23404680
If you ignore the characters looking like shit and the ending then yeah. It's alright.
I really liked how they drove a damaged Zaku Tank. Backwards.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:10:10 PM No.23404699
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>>23404680
>>23404696
The biggest problem is the suits like like shit and their proportions are all off. Like the EX gundam looks ok, the head is a little too small, but the Zeon suits are just horrific.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:30:02 PM No.23404761
>>23401169 (OP)
Sieg Zeon
(I haven't watched it, don't have Jewflix)