Applejack and the Honest-to-Goodness Switcheroo - /mlp/ (#42308923) [Archived: 356 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:36:19 PM No.42308923
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Jesus Christ, people talk about how episodes like Made-do-Well making the mane 6 look like cunts, but I don’t think I’ve seen anything that makes them all look like cunts more than this book. This entire book makes me question why Applejack would even consider the rest of the mane 6 friends.
The whole thing is one long conga line of all her friends refusing to listen to her, distracting her, fucking up her trees, sabotaging her work, and at the end of it all the book just says “Actually they’re totally AMAZING friends and Applejack is just being too hard on them, lol.”

Here’s a link to the book if you want to read it and see the shit-show for yourself.
https://ypdl.gdn/files/YP-PDF-BOOK05.pdf
TL;DR for anyone who doesn’t want to read the entire thing, I’ll summarize here.
>Applejack’s friends are all self-absorbed retards who don’t at all take her seriously and have zero respect for her or the importance of the tasks they offered to do for her.
>When she gets understandably upset by their blatant disregard and vents her frustrations in a healthy and private way so as to not make them feel bad, they go behind her back and violate her trust and privacy by reading her personal diary.
>Then Applejack breaks down in tears, apologizing and begging THEM for forgiveness for the horrible crime of daring to have the audacity to be upset about them screwing her over and making her life harder and more stressful for no reason.
All this book has done now is convince me that none of the mane 6 barring Applejack and Twilight are actually good friends. Fuck these ponies, they’re terrible people to be friend with. I don’t even know what the moral is supposed to be here. Granny Smith gives Applejack the book for the explicit purpose of having an avenue of venting her frustrations so she doesn’t have to bottle them up, and then the narrative acts treats her like she’s a dick for doing exactly that.
Poor fucking Applejack dude, she deserves a better friend group.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:37:49 PM No.42308926
>>42308923 (OP)
that's what she gets for being a earth pony
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:42:03 PM No.42308934
>>42308923 (OP)
I’ve never read any of these books.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:44:34 PM No.42308938
I mean, AJ is kind of a cunt. But what do you expect from a hick pony?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:44:47 PM No.42308940
>>42308923 (OP)
Are the books even canon?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:49:16 PM No.42308952
>>42308940
They’re supposed to be. The person who wrote them went on to write on the show afterwards. If I remember correctly, there’s a few minor things from them that popped up in the show. Limestone and Marble’s names were even revealed in one of the books before the show, I think. And in one of the later books, I think Scootaloo’s aunts showed up well before their debut.

So it really seems like they tried to account for the chapter books as true, completely unlike the comics.

I think this means that Gilda and Trixie teamed up to fuck with Twilight on her coronation day or something. I forget. I read about whichever one that was, but I forget the details.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:50:50 PM No.42308957
>>42308938
She's way less of a cunt than her friends are. You can make her life worse and she will still gaslight herself into believing you're actually an amazing friend. At this point, I think Applejack is the character who needed a few lessons about standing up for herself, not Fluttershy.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:10:36 AM No.42309600
>>42308926
Considering how the rest of the mane 6 reacted when Discord took away their horns and wings during his premier, they might just actually look down on AJ for being an earth pony desu.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:28:25 AM No.42309639
and they were roommates
and they were roommates
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they're such good friends :)
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:34:09 AM No.42309650
jalopy
jalopy
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holy SHIT equestria has cars. this is canon
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:38:10 AM No.42309658
>>42309650
Maybe it just refers to a particular style of cart in their world.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:38:36 AM No.42309660
>>42309639
>"And she was a good friend"
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:51:30 AM No.42309678
>>42309660
kek
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:39:42 PM No.42310902
>>42309639
Best buddies :)
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:14:16 AM No.42312172
>>42308923 (OP)
They are mlp books?
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:16:41 AM No.42312177
>>42312172
One for each mane 6, plus a few others I think.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:20:21 AM No.42312184
>>42312177
There was also one for the three princesses, Discord, a few Daring Do books, a series of the CMCs as detectives or some shit, a movie prequel, and more.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:23:15 AM No.42312188
>>42312184
Mfer they didnt do a dazzling one?
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:14:17 AM No.42312800
>>42312188
I don't think they did any of EQG.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:28:24 AM No.42312812
>>42308923 (OP)
>G% Berrow
what did you expect
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:53:38 PM No.42313536
>>42308923 (OP)
Silly OP, venting is wrong and you should be grateful when others help you and disregard your feelings.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:02:04 PM No.42313547
>>42308923 (OP)
We need this thread so i can read the book
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:06:16 PM No.42313550
>>42309650
Then that means Applejack's truck and Pinkie's convertible toy were actually canon
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:10:29 PM No.42313558
wow it's almost like anything besides season 1 and 2 are bad
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:07:00 PM No.42313688
wow it's almost like anything besides season 1 is bad
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:08:43 AM No.42313998
>>42313558
>>42313688
>Implying characters like Dash weren't at their worst in the first 2 seasons
If you only accept the first season as canon, it's really not a good look for Dash. She's a colossal cunt at the start, and really doesn't get much in the way of redeeming personality traits until season 3.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:11:40 AM No.42314335
>>42313547
You can always download it.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:28:23 AM No.42315033
>>42313536
It almost feels like Applejack is so terrified of losing people she cares about after the deaths of her parents, that she's willing to tolerate basically anything as long as it means her friends don't leave her. Poor girl, she really has a lot of unresolved trauma.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:42:55 PM No.42315207
>>42309650
Is everyone here a newfag? They used to the word jalopy in Pinkie Apple Pie to refer to a cart.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:56:57 PM No.42315233
>>42309639
Adorable! AJ should've become friends with them instead (I'm sure her and Bon Bon could get past the whole bag incident)
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:06:59 PM No.42315244
>>42308923 (OP)
Why are you so quick to judge everypony based on one piece of fanfiction?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:12:35 PM No.42315250
>>42312172
>>42274912
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:47:17 PM No.42315290
>>42308923 (OP)
I don’t want to offend G.M. Berrow if he is actually ITT, but the last half of the story should not have happened. I’m pretty sure that in accounting, businesses either usually use electronic records of goods that have been sold previously or use estimates such as FIFO, LIFO, and average cost. Perhaps if this ever gets a second edition, the story could still make sense if AJ perhaps made a typo when writing the books and, for instance, wrote a comma when she should have written a decimal point.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:28:16 PM No.42316125
>>42315244
It's not just this book. There's a lot in the show that makes me question how good of 'friends' most of the mane 6 actually are. This book is just the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:41:21 AM No.42316556
>>42308923 (OP)
G.M Berrow wrote this shit what do you expect what was Meghan Mccharthy thinking in hiring her?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:42:26 AM No.42316558
>>42316556
No wonder G% is horse shit
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:10:26 AM No.42316770
>>42316558
>>42316556
So then under what writers are the characters not cunts? Because as far as I can tell, some of these ponies just suck regardless of who's writing them. Unless you're narrowing down their entire personality to just two cherry picked episodes where they're at their absolute most pleasant and ignoring everything else, and at that point, you can hardly say the character is good.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:35:17 AM No.42316823
>>42316770
They're hardly friends at all really. One of the later seasons' episodes has them wanting to stop seeing each other after a SINGLE disagreement.

Imagine that, saying you never want to see your friend anymore because you disagreed on something. Was that really your friend then? Hardly.

Friends help each other move. Real friends help each other move bodies.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:43:18 AM No.42316834
>>42313998
Dash being a cunt is what makes her charming though.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:48:25 AM No.42316849
>>42316125
But why judge everypony in the show by their behavior in fan fiction? I understand that writers like Berrow had to be inspired by something, but it isn’t like everything the fans write is canon.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:58:29 AM No.42316866
>>42316849
Nigga I literally just told you I'm judging them by their behavior in canon.
>>42316834
I will never understand your preferences.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:02:19 AM No.42316878
>>42316866
He just has shit taste. Happens a lot.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:53:13 AM No.42317412
>>42316823
I think one of the shows biggest problems in hindsight was how much it resorted to telling rather than showing. This book actually encapsulates it pretty well. It TELLS us how great of friends the mane 6 are, and about how lucky AJ feels to be friends with them, but their actual actions and behavior are the total opposite. The whole series feels like it was more preoccupied with talking about how great they are at friendship, rather than just showing them being good friends.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:45:36 PM No.42318045
>>42317412
Most MLP fans can't tell you any hobbies or activities that the mane six enjoy doing together other than going to the spa

And honestly, everyone who has gone to a spa loves going to one, so it's not really that deep
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:58:20 PM No.42318066
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>>42309650
Always has.
Applejack's friends are just jealous because she's the only one of them who knows how to drive.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:02:25 PM No.42318076
Berrow is a soulless commiefornian golem with no morale compass just like Haber.
Anonymous692
7/2/2025, 8:12:23 PM No.42318090
>>42308923 (OP)
Seems like the writers of that book didn’t know shite about the Mane 5 (Twilight, Pinkie, Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, and Rarity).
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Anonymous692
7/2/2025, 8:18:05 PM No.42318098
>>42318066
I expected Hasbro to make AJ’s truck look more vehicular and less of an over glorified parade float.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:18:55 PM No.42318100
>>42316556
Since when did official Hasbro screenwriters commission people to write fanfiction for them? How come we have seldom seen this happen to anyone else?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:50:16 PM No.42318139
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>>42318066
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:15:36 PM No.42318293
>>42318090
>Seems like the writers of that book didn’t know shite about the Mane 5
Don't they though? Fluttershy's behavior is exactly in line with how she is in Bats, they even reference the episode here. Rarity always hates anything that could get her dirty, PInkie Pie is scatter brained, and Rainbow Dash never listens and doesn't have the patience needed for Applejack's job. They're all very in character, that's the problem. Twilight doesn't really do anything because all the work was already fucked up by the time she arrived, so we can't really fault her with anything in particular, aside from maybe stopping Rainbow from reading AJ's diary when they realized it was the wrong book. But none of their behavior is OOC, they're just stagnant. It's not like the series ever really gives these characters a reason to work past these flaws anyway, even here the narrative ultimately gives them a pass and sees nothing wrong with the way they're acting.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:52:44 PM No.42318517
>>42315033
I think that's what granny Smith was trying to get at by giving AJ her mother's journal
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:56:43 PM No.42318523
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>>42308923 (OP)
What do the exclusive GIANT trading card look like?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:01:29 AM No.42318531
Kids cartoon seem to always treat venting about friends as a bad thing. Like people don't understand that being a good friend doesn't mean you have to put up with their flaws when it inconveniences you.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:08:01 AM No.42318540
>>42318531
Ironically the only time this is ever addressed properly is arguments between discord and Fluttershy but only after discord does some truly heinous shit
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:18:23 AM No.42318562
Remember kids: being a good friend and being an enabler are not the same thing.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:38:15 AM No.42318611
>released 11 years ago
Damn, I cant remember a single word from the story.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:42:35 AM No.42318621
>>42318562
>>42318540
>>42318531
It's pretty sad frankly. Applejack is straight up the most supportive and helpful member of the group, to the point that she'll admonish herself for being upset about her friends screwing her over. Meanwhile the rest of them have next to zero respect for her and will still sit there and pat themselves on the back about how great they are. Just compare them "helping" AJ in this story compared to them helping Rarity during Rarity Takes Manehattan. They all lock it in hard to help Rarity win a contest, but when AJ is in basically the same situation and relying on them for help here, they half-ass it, goof off, or just refuse to do the thing they were brought in to do. Rarity was even actively bitchy to them as they helped, as opposed to Applejack who was biting her tongue to not say anything that might hurt anyone's feelings, and Applejack still felt like she was being too hard on them at the end. She legit feels as much remorse for actions not even half as bad as what other characters do.
If this show was as subversive as a lot of people seem to think it is, it would have been nice to get an episode or two that actually addressed just how one-sided some of these "friendships" actually are. For a show that was all about the power of friendship, half of these friendships are pretty damn shallow when you actually look at them.
>>42318045
I don't think most fans could even tell you what hobbies or activities some of these ponies enjoy doing even on their own. I legitimately cannot think of a single hobby that Fluttershy or Rarity have outside of their work. People talk about AJ being a workaholic, but she's actually been show to do plenty of non work related activities. What does Rarity even do besides working or going to the spa? I feel like every episode with her, she was working on something, and if she wasn't, that's because it was spa day. And Fluttershy is canonically a shut-in who barely even engages in holidays with her friends because she's so afraid of everything. What the hell do these two do in their spare time?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:44:27 AM No.42318631
>>42318611
I mean, did you even read it? Going back through the archive, and even checking reddit, barely anyone has talked about the books. I was only able to find a single thread on Desu where anons talked about this book. I'm pretty sure most people don't even know there are books.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:57:23 AM No.42319019
>>42318621
I'd be spoiled rotten to have a friend half as good as Applejack and the main 6 just don't respect her. Seeing just how good natured she is made me want to be an earth pony, despite the allure of magic and flight
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:50:37 AM No.42319121
>>42319019
>Dear Princess Celestia
>My friend Applejack is the best friend a pony could ever have, and she's always there to help anypony.
Even Twilight agrees and says it herself in one of her first letters, AJ's probably the best friend you could ever hope to have.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:25:24 AM No.42319645
>>42308923 (OP)
>All this book has done now is convince me that none of the mane 6 barring Applejack and Twilight are actually good friends. Fuck these ponies, they’re terrible people to be friend with.
There's a reason most of the M6 don't have any friends besides each other.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:29:59 AM No.42319715
earth pony strength
earth pony strength
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>>42308923 (OP)
Loresissies... we won
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:10:42 PM No.42320068
>>42319715
>he thinks literal fan fiction is a part of the MLP lore
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:36:49 PM No.42320119
>>42320068
Literal fanfiction would be a massive improvement to what we actually got.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:16:02 PM No.42320178
>>42320119
So what was this? Not-a-fan fiction? Was G.M. Berrow just some freelance writer who knew nothing about the MLP franchise and commissioned by a known MLP screenwriter to write something on a franchise he knew little about? Did Berrow use ChatGPT to comb through Fimfiction stories and churn out something that didn’t seem similar to any of them?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:05:42 PM No.42320372
>>42308923 (OP)
>GM Berrow
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:15:15 PM No.42320386
>>42318631
>I'm pretty sure most people don't even know there are books.
I'm pretty sure most anons here barely know how to read
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:29:36 PM No.42320940
>>42320178
The books were officially licensed by Hasbro, and Berrow became a writer for the series. Unless you're a Faust purist who only accepts the first two seasons, these books are pretty far from fanfiction.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:31:36 PM No.42321171
>>42320386
Wouldn't surprise me, honestly.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:05:36 AM No.42321794
>>42319715
I'm surprised this line doesn't come up in debates on whether or not Earth ponies have super strength. Just goes to show how few people have read the books, I guess.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:39:15 AM No.42322393
bump
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:03:07 AM No.42322420
>>42321794
I mean, the book is cannon, it's open and shut case, earth ponies have super strength even if it isn't really shown in the TV show
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:22:57 PM No.42323550
bump
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:44:11 PM No.42323814
>>42322393
>>42323550
If you want to bump the thread and get more discussion, it'd be more helpful if you read the book and then give your own feedback in the thread. Or at least reply to an earlier post with your own thoughts.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:50:27 PM No.42324035
>>42322420
Anything not happening in the show is not canon. At best it's extended canon.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:14:39 AM No.42325404
>>42319645
Yea, it's pretty weird. Twilight had her Canterlot friends, though I guess it's debatable how much they count. AJ has that singer girl that she was childhood friends with, and Pinkie is 'friends' with everyone in town. Do Fluttershy, Rainbow, and Rarity ever have any other characters that they're friends with?
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:19:46 AM No.42326467
I find it somewhat telling that the go to defense for half the mane 6 every time they are shit is just 'Not canon'. Like, people don't even try to give justifications or explanations on how it's not actually that bad, it's just 'Not canon - doesn't count'. I think it's fair to say that most of the mane 6 are just badly written characters desu, if you need to disregard so much material as not canon in order to justify them being good characters. Faust may have been a good world designer, but she's godawful at writing characters.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:48:26 AM No.42326583
>>42325404
Rainbow had Gilda. Fluttershy is an introvert/furry.
Rarity was too busy sucking cock to make up enough money to open Carousel Boutique.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 11:00:49 AM No.42326596
They should make a kids book where AJ discovers the joys of eating human flesh.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 11:13:12 AM No.42326607
>>42326583
Oh yea, totally forgot about Gilda. Introversion is no excuse though. Twilight's introverted, and she still has non mane 6 friends.
But yea, Rarity is a weird one. She's definitely extroverted, yet she seems to have the fewest personal relationships. Frankly, I think she needed more episodes about things unrelated to her career. I'm struggling to think of a single Rarity episode where her work didn't come up in some way.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 1:49:18 PM No.42326753
>>42320940
>>42322420
Except this seems to resemble a Fimfiction shortfic rather than anything that would be officially added to the canon. I mean, there are hints to lore that only people who have read more of an expanded saga really know well, somewhat hastily written plot points, short chapters, and a really short story in general. If Berrow wrote this on Fimfiction before submitting this for publication, it may very well fit right in with what is already there.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:18:01 PM No.42326786
>>42326753
>It's not canon because it JUST ISN'T OKAY
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:37:52 PM No.42326817
Canon is in the eye of the beholder. It's all fiction at the end of the day.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:49:03 PM No.42326910
>>42326467
Faust was only part of two seasons, not sure how fair it is to blame her for all the shitty characterization.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 6:02:12 PM No.42327259
>>42326467
>I think it's fair to say that most of the mane 6 are just badly written characters desu
You only just noticed?
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 6:31:29 PM No.42327365
>>42326467
Too many cooks spoil the broth is an expression for a reason and the shitty character personalities didn't kick in until Faust left.
Applejack was pretty straight forward with Faust at the reins, she was stubborn when it came to her work, but she was a hard worker who loved her farm and family, a dedicated and a good team mom.
Faust leaves and what happens is everyone's traits are exaggerated, including Applejack who becomes stupid, overbearing, and can't read a room for some reason.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 11:06:25 PM No.42328423
>>42326786
So what is and isn’t canon? Should we say creepypastas like EoI, “Rainbow Factory”, and “Cupcakes” are canon? Or are we considering this canon just because a known MLP screenwriter commissioned it?
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 11:06:41 PM No.42328424
>>42326910
She was the one who laid the foundations of these characters, and those foundations were kinda shitty.
>>42327365
I disagree. The shitty characterization didn't start after Faust left, all the stuff people complain about was already there too. RD's personality was at it's worst in the first two seasons, under Faust, and Pinkie was completely stagnant as a character through the whole show. Fluttershy was flanderized to hell and back during season 2, setting any possible development for her 10 steps backwards.
I feel like Applejack was one of the few handled decently well though. I think most instances of Applejack being 'stupid and overbearing' aren't really that ooc, and people are just holding her to unrealistically high standards that they don't for the others. She has insecurities that cause her to behave irrationally on occasions, but it usually doesn't contradict her hard working and dedicated nature, and she was occasionally overbearing and smothering in the first season too. This book here is probably a prime example, as her characterization is one of the only good parts about it. I don't know what you mean by can't read a room, Applejack remained one of the most empathetic and understanding members of the group all through out.Twilight was usually pretty decent as well, only really suffering when they exaggerated her, and Fluttershy also would have been alright if she hadn't been flanderized so quickly. But Dash, Rarity, and Pinkie all had gimped character development that limited what any writer could do with them.
I'm not saying the later writers weren't terrible, most of them were, and I am on board with disregarding the things they wrote. But for some of these characters, they simply weren't any better under Faust. The other writers were only half the problem, because Faust is the reason these characters have so little potential in the first place.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 1:11:30 AM No.42329027
>>42328424
Couldn't disagree more, especially about Pinkie and Rarity. There's literally no reason why any halfway decent writer couldn't have done all kinds of things with them. Hell, Pinkie was at her BEST in s1, she was only ruined by the later writers.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 1:17:28 AM No.42329071
>>42329027
How do you think Pinkie was ruined? And I say Rarity's development was gimped because she's already a master tailor who makes amazing designs at the very start. The fact that she's already so good at what she does and every one likes her designs effectively skipped past half of what would have been her arc, and since none of her other flaws act as obstacles in her goals, there ultimately is no arc with her in regards to her career.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 1:22:35 AM No.42329096
>>42329071
Then just give her things to deal withbeyond her career.
As for Pinkie, in s1 she was a motormouth with surprising insight, with a unique way of thinking and seeing the world which caused confusion in her relationships. In later seasons, she became a screeching idiot.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 1:36:29 AM No.42329170
>>42329096
But Rarity's career is the most integral part of her character. Her primary goal is the furthering of her career. If her primary arc has so few possiblities that you have to focus on something completely different for her, that's really bad design.
And Pinkie was often reduced to nothing but a walking punchline in season 1 as well. Pinkie is a gag character, her intelligence and competence is dependent almost entirely on what would be funniest in the moment. She arbitrarily knew how to deal with the problem in Swarm of the Century so we could have a moral of 'just listen to Pinkie Pie'. But in Over a Barrel, she spends the entire episode acting like a childish idiot. Her 'solution' of sharing the land may have been correct, but Pinkie herself didn't actually come up with a plan for how it would work. And she still has the same problem as Rarity and Rainbow, where do you take her character? What development or change do you have her undergo?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:56:12 AM No.42330198
>>42329170
I would have leaned on their character flaws and interpersonal issues more than some external goals, would fit the premise better, too.
Rarity is Generosity, yet she often acts greedy as fuck. Her prissy nature causes friction in her friendships. She's too focused on her work and her relationships suffer. Her goal could be finding happiness without workaholism and learning what embodying her element truly means.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:42:37 AM No.42330258
>>42330198
I think the problem you'd run into is that the fandom itself didn't/wouldn't want episodes like that. Just look at the show as it is now, Rarity episodes are generally considered the best overall, and very few of them did anything like that. It was the total opposite in fact. Any episode that was about a character's flaws causing interpersonal issues with other characters was reviled. Mare do Well and 28 Pranks Later are considered some of the worst episodes in the series. And for Rarity herself, the episodes where her own flaws were the cause of the conflict are similarly the Rarity episodes you're most likely to see negative reception towards. It honestly wasn't just the fault of the writers, it was the fanbase too. You couldn't write an episode about Rarity learning what you're underlying here because Rarity fans themselves would hate it. Most of them want episodes about her easily overcoming adversity and expanding her business with little to no resistance, where her flaws never obstruct her.
You are right, it COULD have been done in the way you lined out here. The problem is that most people have shit taste and would dislike it. And I can prove it, because that's exactly what most Applejack episodes are, and her episodes are generally considered subpar by most people.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:17:23 AM No.42330293
>>42330258
That's unfortunately true. I blame autists not being able to deal someone acting shitty occasionally. Though to be fair, episodes like Mare Do Well were really poorly written, too.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:58:59 AM No.42330350
>>42330293
I don't think Mare do Well was very poorly written, other than the fact it kinda leaves Rainbow Dash's underlying flaw that causes the conflict unaddressed. Most of the criticism I've seen of it really just comes down to Dashfags gaslighting the entire fandom into a narrative that never happened. The other mane 6 never did anything to humiliate or put down Dash. There wasn't even any reason for Dash to be so upset about Mare do Well in the first place. The fact she got so butt hurt and jealous of someone else being praised for saving lives is very unreasonable, and she needed to be called out on it. I've said it before, but Dash's actions in Mare do Well are basically just a repeat of her behavior in Fall Weather Friends. She can't stand anyone out doing her, and resorts to underhanded tactics to get her way when she feels threatened. The biggest difference between the two is that MDW at least partially calls Dash out on this, though it kinda glosses over it, while she is basically given a complete pass in FWF, with no one in the show makes a fuss over how she started the whole ordeal, and big shocker, FWF is considered a beloved classic where MDW is reviled Just kinda goes to show the point we're talking about that most fans don't actually want stories where a character's flaws cause consequences that they then have to deal with.
>I blame autists not being able to deal someone acting shitty occasionally
Yea basically. I think though it may be more accurate to say that they think of 'character flaws' more as 'silly little quirk that makes character X more funny/cute/interesting' instead of 'shortcoming that causes character X to fail in their goals and require maturation to outgrow before succeeding'.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:02:48 PM No.42330454
>>42330350
Problem with MMDW is that Dash didn't even do anything that bad. She was an egotistical cunt but she still saved ponies. That coupled with her friends hypocritically bragging about their heroism as MDW (before Dash even knew it was them, so it couldn't have been part of her "lesson") undermines the message of the episode quite a bit imo.

But it's still a far cry from 28 Pranks Later. The prank they pulled on her there was pure sociopathy, holy shit.
>your pranks are annoying and sometimes dangerous, so we're gonna prank you in a way that's cruel and dangerous cause friendship is magic.

Dash is a cunt who deserves her comeuppance, but not in a way that makes her friends seem just as bad, if not worse.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:44:29 PM No.42330499
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>>42330454
>Dash didn't even do anything that bad
She was willing to put off saving ponies to placate her own ego. And the others were only saving ponies too. There was no reason for Dash to be so upset about Mare do Well in the first place, the fact that she was so offended by her existence is a huge flaw on her part.
>hypocritically bragging about their heroism as MDW
They were complimenting an alter ego, in private, with no one else around. It's a far cry from the self aggrandizing Dash was doing, especially since Dash was actively putting down others and implying she was better than everyone, while they were strictly complimenting Mare do Well, and not insulting others while they did it.
>"I can stay focused on performing those acts of bravery that nopony else has the guts to perform. Yep, it takes guts. But it also takes brains. And sometimes a big lunch and a nap. Being a hero is surely not for everypony, but I'm up to the challenge."
>The prank they pulled on her there was pure sociopathy, holy shit.
Okay, now you're just treating Dash with kid gloves. Yea, Dash's pranks were annoying an dangerous, and they sat her down and told her to cut it out, and she refused. Since Rainbow Dash says 'all pranks are a-okay and it doesn't matter if the person being pranked doesn't want it' they gave her a taste of her own medicine and pranked her back. It's not any worse than her scaring Fluttershy, or doing things that could have easily gotton someone else hurt or sick. Dash said pranks were great and she's totally onboard with them, so they pranked her, and surprise surprise, Dashie can't stand it when the shoes on the other foot.
>we're gonna prank you in a way that's cruel and dangerous
Because her pranks were cruel and dangerous. The point is to show her how she's making other ponies feel, since she doesn't want to listen to them when they tell her to stop. Refusing to listen to others is a consistent problem with RD, it's one of her flaws. The rest of the mane 6 aren't worse cunts than her by retaliating against her bad attitude by showing her what it's like to be on the receiving end. Dash deserved to have the shit scared out of her.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:23:40 PM No.42330564
>>42330499
The post in your pic ignores a really big problem. Sure, no lasting damage was done, but that's literally only because
A. they got fucking lucky Dash picked flight over fight and
B. It's a kid's show so not like they're gonna show the psychological damage of being convinced you might have given a deadly disease to everyone you know and love.
More to the point, acting like a piece of shit towards someone who is acting like a piece of shit isn't the way to make them stop. That doesn't even work in REAL LIFE, let alone in a cuddly fantasy pony world where friendship and harmony are supposed to reign.
What they should have done was shown how her pranks hurt others, not hurt her right back in a worse way. She's an idiot but not a psycho.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:40:50 PM No.42330604
>>42330564
>A. they got fucking lucky Dash picked flight over fight
So is Dash. Someone could have easily gotten hurt during her pranks too, that's why they were bad. Dash is lucky no one decided to walk up to her on the street and buck her in the ribs for being a nuisance. She pranked plenty of ponies she wasn't personal friends with and would have no way of knowing what their boundaries are.
>More to the point, acting like a piece of shit towards someone who is acting like a piece of shit isn't the way to make them stop. That doesn't even work in REAL LIFE
Well, the real life solution is to just stop interacting with them a-la Griffon the Brush Off. But that would mean them cutting off Rainbow Dash from their lives and refusing to be friends with her. Which frankly, yea that is what they should do, but the show would never have that.
>What they should have done was shown how her pranks hurt others
They tried to, she didn't want to listen. What else are they supposed to do? Show her Mr. Cakes dental bill? Besides, it isn't their responsibility to show her the damage she's doing, she shouldn't need a reason not to prank someone beyond being told 'we don't want to be pranked'. It's not their responsibility to bend over backwards to show Dash why they don't like what she's doing when they've already told her to cut it out. They told her to stop, Dash refused. If she wants to be a self centered idiot and play mean spirited pranks on people after they tell her to stop, then she can suck it up and deal with it like a big girl when other people decide to play mean spirited pranks back.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:09:12 PM No.42330659
>>42328423
>Or are we considering this canon just because a known MLP screenwriter commissioned it?
It's an officially licensed Hasbro book. unless the book directly contradicts something in the show, shit is cannon, idk what to tell you
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:16:45 PM No.42330666
>>42330258
Rarity episodes can be very wholesome. One of my favorite episodes is the sisterhoove social because Rarity is able to see past her work, get dirty, and enjoy a good time with her sister. Few characters get that opportunity
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:23:29 PM No.42330681
>>42330666
>Few characters get that opportunity
Well, to be fair, only two of them have a younger sister that they live with in the first place. I guess Pinkie has sisters, but they live elsewhere. And Dash and Scoots are kidna a thing, but they live separately and aren't really sisters. The only other one is Applejack with Applebloom. So yea, it's not a very long list in the first place, lol.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:50:49 PM No.42331194
>>42312172
There's a bunch, yeah. This link still works if you were curious about them and wanted em all at once.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/l43u24xfk736yx3/Books.rar/file

>>42318631
I'd say 90% of Anons and 99.9% of the fandom at large don't know they exist. Even storytiming them as they came out there were maybe 2 that ever hit bump limit. I think it was the LyraBon one and one other out of the purely print books. Books made of just words understandably aren't as appealing or eye catching.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:30:53 PM No.42331664
>>42308926
fpbp
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:00:58 AM No.42332268
>>42330659
But again, this has hints to lore that may be obscure to people who don’t know about it, just like a Fimfiction shortfic might. How can it be canon if there are gaps in the information provided or if not all of the hidden lore is canon as well?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:43:13 AM No.42333649
>>42319715
we wuz winning
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:42:23 PM No.42334192
>>42326817
>He doesn't know
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:20:20 PM No.42334715
>>42308923 (OP)
Ehh it's a shit book.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:39:09 PM No.42335414
>>42334715
Of course it's shit, it's a literal children's novel. It misses everything that makes the show interesting at all: pleasing art, cute voices, nice music...

>You don't watch FIM for the gripping stories?!?
I watch it in spite of it. It's entertaining when coupled with aforementioned elements. Without any of that, like say if it was a show about naked mole rats, it would be nothing more than a dumb story for little kids.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:36:44 AM No.42335782
>>42335414
Come on, Anon, we know you'd watch a show about naked mole rats just because they were naked.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:37:36 AM No.42336474
>>42335782
what's so special about naked mole rats that is worthy to watch it?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:25:33 PM No.42336984
>>42336474
The nudity. If I told you there was a show where all the characters walked around nude all the time, you'd be interested, wouldn't you?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:23:32 PM No.42337395
>>42336984
nobody wants to watch a nudist show
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:16:22 PM No.42337736
>>42336984
>>42337395
Aren't the ponies mostly always nude apart from the ones that wear clothes?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 11:15:42 PM No.42338198
>>42330666
Honestly I like when AJ is like that to AB. But the writers didn't or couldn't write AJ as the big sister type. The level headed one with some flaws. They even kinda made AJ overbearing later on.
>>42330681
It's nice when RD is nice to Scoot. But I do feel the writers don't utilize RD's good qualities enough and decide to make her lame.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 11:18:31 PM No.42338207
>>42330666
Rarity usually solves her problems before it reaches the tipping point. For the other M6, they seem to reach that point, and then the lesson is learned.
Sisterhoove Social is an episode where the problem reaches the tipping point, but it's resolution is nice.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 11:39:33 PM No.42338269
>>42338198
AJ has always been a little overbearing, it's kind of an extension of her more motherly personality. Between the three of them though, She still the most generally pleasant and best. The Dash and Scootaloo relationship is frankly pretty forced, and never really had much chemistry in the first place.
>>42338207
>Rarity usually solves her problems before it reaches the tipping point.
Does she though? Because I can think of plenty of episodes where that's not true. Rarity Takes Manehattan, Simple Ways, Look Before You Sleep, Sonic Rainboom, Honest Apple, Sweet and Elite. Rarity episodes have her problems escalating plenty. Do you have any examples of episodes where she solved the problem before it reached a tipping point?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:45:23 AM No.42338465
>>42337736
Yes?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:49:47 AM No.42338483
>>42334715
>>42335414
The book was a great read. I loved seeing a more in depth view into apple family dynamics
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 1:09:43 AM No.42338544
>>42320386
Lol, we had a bookclub general and some anons were complaining about how they aren't able to finish a book in a week EVEN THOUGH THESE BOOKS ONLY HAVE 100 PAGES! LEARN TO READ! IT'S JUST 50 TO 80 MINUTES TO READ THROUGH THEM ILLITERATE SHITFACE!!
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 1:13:02 AM No.42338552
>>42308923 (OP)
The power of gm berrow
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 1:14:07 AM No.42338554
>>42312812
KEK
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 1:20:32 AM No.42338564
>>42338544
Grim
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 1:24:23 AM No.42338568
>>42338544
Jesus, that's a whole other level of lazy. I think it took me about an hour and a half to read this Applejack book, and that was with me stopping to take notes on the story, as well as at least one break to listen to music.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:48:02 AM No.42339673
>>42338544
KEK
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:01:13 PM No.42339924
>>42338544
absolute state of /mlp/
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:42:26 PM No.42340580
1724935020519368
1724935020519368
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>>42338544
lol, lmao even
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:49:42 PM No.42340932
>>42308926
What do you have against earth ponies, Anon?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:12:41 AM No.42341140
>>42340932
Probably a unicornfag. They're always looking down on other pony types.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:30:27 AM No.42342065
>>42340932
he's a fag probably
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:24:40 PM No.42342720
>>42338544
>anons here on /mlp/ cant read 100 pages
Is there seriously people that stupid?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:29:11 PM No.42342725
>>42342720
It's not about not being able to, it's about it being a total waste of time. In the time it'd take me to read Berrow's slop I could read a real classic like Of Mice And Men (already read it of course).
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:13:01 PM No.42343068
>>42342725
>cope cope cope
Yes, we know you're illiterate.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:06:59 PM No.42344048
>>42319715
we won... NOTHING! GOOD DAY SIR!
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:12:03 PM No.42344059
>>42338568
I read it on my fucking lunch break
Replies: >>42344834
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:07:19 AM No.42344834
>>42344059
You want a fucking medal?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:34:55 AM No.42344886
>>42342725
Of Mice and Men is a much thicker book. The only way to read it that fast is to speed read so much that you miss the whole story, and then what's the point?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:33:25 AM No.42345264
>>42338544
What are some of the books you've mentioned got anons stumped so I can read em?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:00:56 AM No.42345644
>>42345264
There were only TWO threads of this general HAHAHAHA and the books discussed were:
Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell
and
Pinkie Pie and the Rockin' Ponypalooza Party!
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:17:29 PM No.42345797
>>42345644
Just two????
lol, lmao even
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:36:36 PM No.42346315
>>42319715
fuck yeah