So since there was some time to stew on this info, what are your hopes, dreams and possible nightmares to happen?

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
Big adventure
>Dreams
Tons of fun
>Nightmares
A beautiful heart

>>42316403 (OP)
>hopes
The brand dies forever
>dreams
The brand dies forever
>nightmares
The brand doesn't die forever and the corpse of g4 gets paraded around, and the hasdrones that make up this godawful "fandom" slurp it up

>>42316415
gee Anon, who shat in your cereal today

>>42316414
>A beautiful heart
But that's the best part

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
something good
>Dreams
a good show
>Nightmares
something bad

>>42316403 (OP)
Nowadays nothing turns out to be good. So I would rather not.

>hopes
A new generation that's fun to watch.
>dreams
A G4 remake that does every single change I'd want them to make and none of the obnoxious fan pandering or boardroom execs demanding more toy sales.
>nightmares
A G4 remake that does the exact things I mentioned above. Sadly, this is the most likely outcome.

>>42316414
>Hopes
Faithful and strong
>Dreams
Sharing kindness
>Nightmares
It's an ez feet

>>42316417
Nothing good will come from Hasbro. Anybody who wants a new gen after how they treated g4 AND after the shitshow that g5 was is fucking stupid and should be beaten.

>>42316403 (OP)
Long-form content is dead so I doubt Hasbro will crank out a full show like FiM ever again. It'll probably be some DoA streaming-only slop, if they even bother. Maybe they'll make some pony toys with Real AI (tm). Who fucking knows or cares.

>>42316438
>Maybe they'll make some pony toys with Real AI (tm
>fuckbot ponies real

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
Lauren Faust returns.
>Dreams
We enter a universe where Faust never left.
>Nightmares
Haber returns.

>>42316446
>Lauren Faust returns
Unless it's Faust from circa 2010 it would be pretty shit outcome
>We enter a universe where Faust never left
That would be even shittier considering how Mom turned out to be
>Haber returns
Well, at least that part is guaranteed to never happen

>>42316455
What specific aspect of modern Faust do you think would cause her to make a bad show? Or are you just extrapolating from the fact that the stuff she's made since hasn't been that good?

>>42316432
>Hopes
And magic
>Dreams
Makes it
>Nightmares
All complete

>>42316466
It's both, since I feel like her recent shows flopping is directly related to her rhetoric change into full-on feminazi. She just can't write a show that would be enjoyable to several age categories and both genders, like she did with g4.
I also feel like, at that point, it wouldn't be below her to subtly (or not so) flop a new gen as a revenge on Hasjew who once denied her creative freedom

>>42316403 (OP)
I hope G6 will have the mane 6 of G4 as the main characters. I hope they lean into a more adventury slightly darker vibe.
Also I hope they do Earth Pony Twilight.

>>42316466
I still don't totally get why people started assuming Faust was actually some kind of terrible showrunner. I've watched enough of Wander Over Yonder and DC Super Hero Girls and Them's Fightin' Herds to confidently say she still has talent in her veins. Perhaps she lost a bit of edge but I'd take any non-sense over whatever Haber and Berrow have done since the former assumed a lead position in 2016.

>>42316466
I still don't really get why people started saying Faust went bad. I've watched enough of Wander Over Yonder, DC Super Hero Girls and partially Them's Fightin' Herds to confidently say she still has talent in her veins. Perhaps she lost a bit of edge but nothing terrible.
I'll take Faust at her lowest over whatever Haber and Berrow have done ever since the former became story editor.

>>42316403 (OP)
>"Total Brand Re-invention"
>G4 image
>Hopes & Dreams
The creatives involved don't share the Reddit/Twitter agenda based mentality of pseudo-morality

>>42316503
I haven't kept up with her stuff so I couldn't say. Ultimately though I think people put too much focus on the big name when it takes a whole team to make a good product. Faust could be good or bad, just like no Faust could be good or bad - it comes down to what the entire crew looks like and how much time and freedom they're given to make their product.

>>42316475
>Hopes
My
>Dreams
Little
>Nightmares
Pony

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
It's going to be short and forgettable
>Dreams
None
>Nightmares
Some streaming service latches on to it and parades it around as the new iteration of MLP

>>42316490
I Hope you can grow some braincells and move on from the same thing

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
None

>Dreams
Faust coming back to finish what she has started to see if I can finally have some closure with this franchise, as both endings left me unsatisfied.
Magical Mystery Cure was rushed and felt as drama-bait due to a last minute decision by Hasbro. Meanwhile The Last Problem is just an insult to what this show represented written by the devil, and this is not including his right hand (Berrow) burning the last remains of dignity this generation had with G$. SWAG.MOV is ironically a better conclusion than both.

>Nightmares
Nothing specific, perhaps Hasbro lowering the bar even further than what I can realistically process. Binge-watching the second half of the show is the most miserable experience I ever had with a show.

>>42316507
I agree. The show would've gone downhill much faster if the people she put in charge have left much early, so I'm glad people like Larson and Rogers stayed for longer than they were expected to.
Although lead people still have a responsibility teaching those they're in charge of. Many of the new writers could've made a better job if a proper figure guiding them to unleash their full potential.

>>42316507
I agree. The show would've gone downhill much faster if those she put in charge have left earlier, so I'm glad people like Larson and Rogers stayed for longer than they were expected to.
Although lead people still have a responsibility teaching those they're in charge of. Many of the new writers could've made a better job if a proper figure guiding them to unleash their full potential.

>>42316607
>Many of the new writers could've made a better job if a proper figure guiding them to unleash their full potential.
Definitely, though it's unsurprising that they lacked enthusiasm given the environment they were in. More time and money would've probably incentivized the vets to onboard the newbies better and make sure their ideas fit in with the existing show.

>>42316507
I agree. The show would've gone downhill much faster if those she put in charge have left earlier, so I'm glad people like Larson and Rogers stayed for longer than they were expected to.
Although lead people still have a responsibility teaching those they're in charge of. Many of the new writers could've made a better job if a proper figure has guided them to unleash their full potential.

>>42316613
Sorry for deleting the original. I'm a bit picky with grammar errors.

>>42316613
>More time and money would've probably incentivized the vets to onboard the newbies better

It wasn't so much a problem of time and/or money, as much as one of artistic satisfaction.
Larson said that was the main reason he quit and it shows. You can tell the old staff wasn't enjoying working on the show as much as they did when they started, even if they were still trying to give their best at it. Hasbro being cheap was the final blow.

>>42316403 (OP)
>nightmares
Bad voice acting, bad singing, bad pony designs, unsexy ponies, bad art style, bad animation, DEI, political agendas undermining writing, bad writing, stallions as part of the main cast, stallions as anything more than supporting roles, creatureshit.

That's not even the full list, a lot can go wrong. And will.

>>42316539
And I hope you can shut the fuck up

>>42316789
You are the children-cartoon version of COD MW retard faggots. Ultimate shitbrain just shovel the same slop into your head

>>42316841
Don't care didn't ask I want the mane 6 back!

>>42316841
>you must consume next product and get excited for new product

>>42316403 (OP)
Hopefully any form of a g6 is completely separate from g4 and isn't just another half-arsed sequel to FiM like g5 was. The only way for any new generation to get out of the shadow of g4 is to be its own thing.

>>42316403 (OP)
If they're just trying to make "the next gen 4" it's going to be shit, because in that case even the best case scenario will just be bargain bin I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-FiM! It better be completely fresh with its own identity, because you can't recapture bottled lightning, the only thing you can do is open a new bottle. The focus on interpersonal relationships is what made early gen4 so great, though, so I'm not sure what other concept they could go for that would resonate with me as well as that did.

I'm not sure what hopes I have for it. I heard the series really went to shit in s6+ but I stopped watching mid-s5 as a kid and I've only just caught up to there on my rewatch (I can hardly believe it's been a full decade), so I have no personal experience with how bad it gets later on (I'm trying to go in with an open mind but I'm bracing myself at the same time). Still, I don't think a single thing hasbro's made since then seems interesting, and the little I've seen about gen 5 looks utterly bland... so I'll take the safe prediction of "its chances of being successful are inversely proportional to how creatively involved the suits at hasbro are". It's probably entirely up to whether or not they bring in good outside creatives.

Frankly, I don't think much of what made FiM so uniquely great is innately tied to the MLP brand at all, beyond "any future iterations of the brand will be clueless execs poorly trying to recreate what THEY think made FiM so successful". If I want a similar buzz I'll probably be looking elsewhere for it. Just because it's the same rightsholders as the good one doesn't mean it can trace even the tiniest iota of its creative energy to any of its predecessors, and the chances of it being "the new FiM" are no better than any random unrelated series ending up good enough to be "the new FiM".

>>42316403 (OP)
>troonhive
OP lacks wisdom

>>42316848
>You must consume the same product and get excited

>>42316892
Except Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and other IPs recycle their characters in reboots and they're better off for it.

>>42317001
>Being a an unoriginal faggot and recycling is... le good!

I hope it's like early tamers, but less retarded. I hope there's a lot of super cute ponies who do super cute things and ALSO teleport and blast lasers and punch things and go on adventures. If they do something like that, I believe it will be fun for boys and girls of all ages. The ultimate in mass appeal.

>>42317098
>I hope it's like my lgbt scat fetish cartoon
Anons prove once again they shouldn't be allowed to have opinions

>>42316403 (OP)
Unfortunately I expect G6 to be so shit that g5 haters will start saying G5 is great. The reason why? Market limitations. G5 would be much better if it was 2D and 20 minutes+ per episode. Everybody knew this, but IT HAD TO BE 5 minutes, because that's what current market demands. Short and fast. By 2026 this will be even stronger AND we will probably see shitty application of AI to reduce costs. Every time animation is mentioned around suits they say how costly and long process it is. They would love to bring that cost down for management to pocket the difference. It's not that I don't believe in Hasbro, I just dont believe in the market right now. It's just not allowed to make good content because skibidi melted kids brains. If it ain't a tiktok short - it ain't gonna sell.

>hopes
It's not shit.
>dreams
They hire a passionate showrunner with a strong vision of the art style, characters, and story.
>nightmares
The go the cheapest, lowest common denominator option and do shitty 3 minute TikTok beanmouth animations because kids "don't watch cartoons anymore".

>>42316466
Somebody has the image of Faust drinking booze from a shoe? I feel it was some fungus in there.

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
Hasbro, in spite of themselves, come up with something alright
>Dreams
Return to G1's fantasy setting with a bigger sense of adventure
>Nightmares
Endless G4 rehashing

>>42316403 (OP)
>hopes
An actually cute artstyle and interesting fantasy world
>dreams
A team that actually gives a fuck and isn't screwed over by Hasbro
>nightnares
Bland, safe, modern smartphone sloppa for tiktok kids

>>42316512
>Hopes
Do you know
>Dreams
You're all my very best
>Nightmares
Friends

>>42316403 (OP)
It's all bullshit corpo speak.
It is true they are likely looking into what made friendship is magic special but chances are extremely likely they will either misinterprit what the show was about, completely ruin the characters like they did with pony life, or it'll just be more cringe teletubby type shit for little girls.

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
It’s good!
>Dreams
It’s really good!
>Nightmares
It’s sterile bland safe drivel that was grown in a corporate test tube, so basically TikTok shorts where the ponies are doing outdated online trends like planking and the Grape Juice Challenge

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
At least have no connection and references to G4 whatsoever please
>Dreams
Faust's G4 reboot set after S1E24 with full creative freedom and no exec intervention (impossible)
>Nightmares
More G4 corpse raping, 3D, beanmouth, smartphones (highly possible)

>>42317612
Fuck
*S2E24 obviously

>>42317605
>rape Juice Challenge

>>42317612
Seeing ponies with smartphones fills me with such anger that I can't think straight. I have an utterly pathological reaction to it. I feel like I ought to be thanking some higher power for the small miracle of them not showing up in mainline G4.

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
We actually get a show completely unrelated to G4.
>Dreams
Nothing comes of this and it's just hot air, and we get a complete nothing burger again like G5.
>Nightmare
Nostalgia b8. <---Trips confirms this will happen.

>>42317106
This is probably the most accurate depiction of what's really going to happen.

Hasbro is going to surprise you all. You must trust them.

>>42317678
I just can't trust a company that mainly makes toys for little girls

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
A mid value production with a good script. They actually have really good concept art and decent scripts even when the production kind of blows. I think G5's original art is magnificent.
>Dreams
The old artbook original pitch for G4 where it had a darker G1ish tone with G4 style horses.
The 'lore' about only Equestria operating on its own rules was interesting. Horses have to fake their seasons and create their own weather, raise their own fake sun and moon,... but if you step out into Everfree things grow "on their own" and this is extremely freaky to ponies.
It also solves the non-issue of other races not really respecting or caring much for ponies, when the show implication is that Celestia and Luna personally make days happen.
You cant just keep half of it. What do you mean windigos are real and the only thing keeping the continent (potentially the world?) from becoming an arctic wasteland is ponies? Do people outside know about this?
>Nightmare
Moon.

>>42317106
>It's not that I don't believe in Hasbro, I just dont believe in the market right now.

I don't believe either, Smiling Friends Budget is two million dollars and it still manages to have high-quality. The first season of G4 was just double that amount, with the following seasons only being thrice at most. Hasbro has the budget, they've just created a hostile environment for creativity making it so no one with actual talent willingly wants to work there.

>>42316403 (OP)
>2027
Yeah, nah, I'll be too old by then or probably dead.

>>42316403 (OP)
G6 is dead in the water. OP is very deluded.

>>42316403 (OP)
>Supercharge brand blueprint 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>42317818 >>42317675
G4 came at a perfect moment. There was no AI, so hiring animators was justifiable. No tiktok shorts short-circuiting kids brains so 20 min format was still OK. And feminism was at just the correct place to allow someone like Faust a 20 minute format show angled at girls, that didn't have to assume girls are brainless and will watch anything pink.

Right now the times are the opposite. Short format is mandatory, kids are brain damaged, feminism is in decline (I am not saying it's good or bad in general, it's that arguing for better quality shows for girls won't work anymore) and AI will basically bar kids animations from being made by human artists. Of all animated show age brackets and types - kids shows are probably the first that will suffer from AI shittification. Maybe in some future AI will be great, but right now it's not, and we will see how bad it is in kids shows first.

tl;dr When g4 happen multiple stars aligned perfectly. These stars are currently in perfectly opposite and reverse misaligment. G6 is going to be a disaster of unproportionable magnitude that will put MLP brand on the shelf for a long time.

>>42317976
I thought of one more thing. I think Faust once said that girls deserve a show that would be good enough that parents will want to watch it with their daughters. That parents will see it as a valuable thing to talk about once the episode is over. The general idea was that parents CARE what kids watch and what they learn from it.

In the meantime current generation of parents shows zero care about what their kids watch. They give them a tablet and are happy it works as an off-switch for the kid, so parents can do other stuff. This means the show quality can drop extremely low, since parents aren't even going to know kids are watching it.

The main quality verifier is gone. All that matters is screen retention by the child itself. This is going to be the equalivent of youtube AI generated pregnant Barbie meets spiderman show, but with ponies.

>hopes
They'll have nice asses again, like in G4.
>dreams
There will be full blown fanservice scenes.
>nightmares
They'll have no asses or curves at all, like in G5.

>>42317997
>There will be full blown fanservice scenes.
full blown flutterrape

>>42317653
But they did.

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
More pony.
>Dreams
Faust and Haber team up to combine the best of both worlds: cute mares doing cute things and compelling storytelling.
>Nightmares
None, I'm an optimist.

>>42316403 (OP)
>hopes
that its good
>dreams
that its s1 and s2 good
>nightmares
that its s8-9, comics levels of bad or worse

>>42318091
>and Haber
>compelling storytelling

>>42317653
You might be a pants-shitting stealth diaperfag

>>42318091
>Faust and Haber team up

That's the artistic equivalent of illuminating a black hole. The void will just eat up anything close enough to it.

>>42318091
This.

>>42316466
>What specific aspect of modern Faust do you think would cause her to make a bad show?
She have a kid now, the curse of a dry womb improved her writing

>>42317976
>Maybe in some future AI will be great, but right now it's not

And it might just get worse, as more slop is produced and the chances of inbreeding are increased. Not to mention human made slop inspired by AI slop.
The creator of your child's childhood turning out to be a cold unfeeling machine is so dystopian, as you don't even need to think about it to realize this.

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
long form content is dead right now so realistically: a well-written, well animated g4 reboot of 5-10 minute slice of life/mini adventure episodes that focus on the mane 6 and their character dynamics.
>Dreams
what i said above plus longer-form 40-60 minute specials that focus on a longer plot about the mane 6 overcoming a villain and exploring equestria. also good music.
>Nightmares
hasbro forces out more soulless g%-tier slop

>>42318171
>The creator of your child's childhood turning out to be a cold unfeeling machine is so dystopian
On the contrary, It sounds enlightened to me, and one step closer to the inevitable singularity.

>>42318184
holy reddit

>>42318203
Aijeets can never blend in

>>42318091
>Faust
>teaming up
>with fucking Haber
I highly suggest you immediately use a metal fork to team up with the closest electrical outlet in your vicinity.

>>42316403 (OP)
They have to acknowledge that G4 turned MLP into a Scooby Doo type situation where keeping the core 9 characters (including Spike, Celestia, and Luna) is essential

>>42316403 (OP)
>hopes
flash-like art-style that looks identical enough to g4 but only differences are quality/technogical improvements so it would look a bit different because of better technology/quality.
>dreams
none, g4 fan content is enough
>nightmares
3d art-style

>>42316403 (OP)
>Hopes
Something completely independent from G4. As much as I like FiM I would like to see a completely new and different pony world
>Dreams
More horse-like designs that are cute in their own way
>Nightmares
Ponies using smartphones/social media. Please just keep it on a fantasy setting

I'm going to be 30 when it comes out

>>42318628
Cheer up its never coming out

>>42318628
nigga I'm 35 already

>>42316403 (OP)
>hopes
G4 style with a continuation of the next generation of ponies in equestria
>dreams
Alternate universe sometime before the events of season 9 finale, hell even before twilight became an alicorn if possible
>nightmares
3D/CG shit

>>42316403 (OP)
Your picture contains no useful information whatsoever.
Hopes: a fun cartoon, of any kind. Or a spectacular failure, I'll take it too. My bar is rather low.
Dreams: something completely unexpected. Lightning in a bottle, a miracle that would make blind men see and crippled men dance. If we dream big, maybe even a song on par with WWU.
Nightmares, I don't know. Something machine generated? I can see it still being residually fashionable in '27. But it would be just a failure, not a nightmare. Oh wait I get it: the nightmare is DRM somehow wins, new cartoons can't be pirated through any means and disappear forever as soon as corpos decide to unlist them.

>>42318184
Not even AIs want a Jeet as part of their singularity, Mohammad. You'll never be a toaster on steroids.

>>42318628
I'll be 24 but I already feel like I'm 30.

>>42318907
Damn, what is this fandom's demographic right now? You were 14 when season 1 aired, I was already 20. I kinda assumed fandom is 30-40 right now. How and when did you get into mlp. I was among those banned from /b/ in first wave of pony bans by moot.

>>42318940
>14 when season one aired
Season one aired like 15 years ago dude. He'd be around 8-9, not 14.

>>42318628
>I'll be 33
>RD will still be best pony

>>42318968
Right, jesus 15 years already.
Even worse, he said he WILL be 24 in 2027. Then 22 now and 7 at season 1.

That tweet from OP is so weird. 2027 brand reinvention and somehow 2026 is supposed to be year of pony? How if new content comes 2027? G4 started in 2010, but it became really huge in 2013.

ponays

>>42318628
>i'll be 25
it's weird to think im actually not that much younger than you

>>42319023
2026 is the year of the pony in the Chinese Calendar, like with years of the rabbit or the dragon or whatever
but unfortunately g^ isn't coming out until the year after because Hasbro literally cannot do anything right

>>42319652
Kek I just checked, 1990 was Hoers as well, how perfect.

Take your pick:

1. MLP shounen complete with all the pros and cons that come with it.
2. MLP ongoing fantasy adventure either inspired by LOTR or Avatar: The Last Airbender.
3. Slice of life shit like G4.

>>42319657
Definitely slice of life.

>>42319652
>2026 is the year of the pony in the Chinese Calendar
So it means hasjew will produce tons of great new G4 merch exclusively for chongs while western piggus get nothing.

>>42319657
Yeah, slice of life. Edgy stuff is what fandom is for.

>>42319666
If you think any of thats edgy you're either young, retarded, brown or need to be exposed to more media. Maybe a mixture of both.

>>42319657
Shonen IF they still keep all their cuteness, otherwise slice of life.

>>42319657
4. Franchise gets auctioned off to Chinese company, produces donghua series that's a mix between options 2 & 3, wait for English dub

>>42319664
That's what you get for not having bought the same figurine sets with the same ponies for the past 5 years! We must be better consumers.

>>42316455
you're the shit outcome

>>42318940
>You were 14 when season 1 aired
I was 8 when it aired, although I did not really get into the show until I was 11 and Season 4 had already started. Also I got confused with something in the post and ignored that it will actually air in 2027, so I'll be 25 if it premieres around the same as FiM did.

>>42318968
You can't really blame him.
I still get the feeling we're in the late 2010's when we're actually at the second half of the 2020's.
Not helped by how alienated I am from most gen Z culture, especially what late zoomers watch.
Besides videogames, I can talk about anything with my boomer uncles and grandma born in the 30's compared to my cousins who were born in the same generation as I did.

>>42316874
trvke

>>42319657
Shounen because that's my all time favorite genre. MLP is an anomaly to me because I literally don't watch any other SoL shows.

Realistically, when would this be announced if it's targeting 2027? Will they put out an early tease next year? How do Hasbro operate with marketing stuff?

>>42319806
5. Franchise gets auctioned off to russian company, produces CRPG that's a mix of classic Fallout & Baldur’s Gate. Putin bans it and every citizen goes to Moscow to kill him with horse-cocks.

>>42317052
It is good if it works. Its called no reinventing the wheel for no reason.

>>42319662
If wild manes and make your mark showed anything it's that slice of life is the easy safe shit route

I think that the odds of this being fucking horrible are so great that I should probably just not watch it so I don’t feel the need to kill myself. I can’t keep torturing myself like this. MLP is dead to me and represents nothing but death. I’d rather live, I think. I wouldn’t if I watched this.

I will never forgive Josh Haber for taking away one of the only things that brought my life joy. I fucking hate him.

>>42318940
A majority of the fandom is in their late teens and early 20's, basically former target audience/Early - Middle Gen Z.

>>42320799
My horosope said that you will meet your special somepony at Mare Fair and rekindle you reason to live and that will be me

>>42320813
I hope you’re right.

>>42320813
Yeah, you and the rest of the people who cum on his stomach kek.

>>42320810
Majority of the fandom was late millennials/early zoomers. They are all in their 30 minimum now

>>42320840
He asked for current demographics. New people came in from various avenues while many old people left. This board itself has an average age of around 22.

>>42320849
22 but with the mindset of 11yo

>>42320840
>early zoomers
>30 minimum
the earliest zoomers haven't hit 30 yet
>>42320849
i hate tik tok
>>42320872
wouldn't have it any other way

>>42320884
>the earliest zoomers haven't hit 30 yet
If you're 28 you're basically 30

>>42320899
no wizard powers at 28

>>42318628
I'm already 30. Stay young, anon. Stay young.

>>42320910
It's harder every day

>>42320802
Me too.
He showed us the devil is not red, but gray.