Thread 42320031

What's the most you should pay for a pony comm?

>>42320031 (OP)
For me it's the $25 shaded full body from a thrid world teenager from twitter. Instant turnaround and they thank (You) for choosing them.

>>42320031 (OP)
just pay whatever you want anon, the market is wildly diverse. nobody is forcing you to buy from expensive or cheap artists

I have an AI draw my OC. Who mad up in here?

>>42320040
>Who mad up in here?
no one, your OC was trash even without the slop

>>42320040
me

>>42320031 (OP)
34 yuan? that's just 4 dollars!

>>42320040
Aijeets are the new vegans

>>42320220
You will never make money with coommissions again.

>>42320255
Not an artist. Try again Ranjesh.

>>42320220
>Aijeets
Kek. I'm not even mad.

>>42320031 (OP)
I drop like $5k a year on comms from the artists I like. I think 100-200 is reasonable from a good artist, but I also spread the dough around to small scale ponyers who charge less.

>>42320295
based

>>42320258
Enjoy being poor. Should've learned a real trade.

>>42320295
How many of them are stuck in permanent limbo?

>>42320301
>jeet reading comprehension
Learn to use the bathroom Mutahar

>>42320305
Your impotent tears sustain me. Hope you're making ends meet with your 3 minimum wage jobs.

>>42320308
How about you make the poo meet the loo Sanjay?

Damn, the chinese are really drawing people's ponies for less than the cost of a decent lunch in the us

>>42320709
To be fair, it looks like a coloring book vector with some very poor design choices.

>>42320295
Can I have $60 to say I'll draw you a pony and then I never draw anything and you don't get the money back?

>>42320301
>Should've learned a real trade.

Better to learn a "false" trade than to be as brown as an EQG fan.

>>42321005
All I've really seen from the sudden increase in ai art is massive increases in EQG porn, a ton of foalcon, and the entirety of /jdb/. Sort of lets you know what it's being used for.

>>42320031 (OP)
I paid WitchTaunter $400 for this awesome artwork of Queen Chrysalis. I never paid for a kicking version or anything. For quality artwork, a few hundred is about right, although plenty of artists are cheaper, especially if they live in Russia or America outside of North America.

>>42321111
>400 for chryssi with copy-pasted grubs inside
you got scammed, man, I hope at least the fap was good
also checked

>>42321111
>$400
why are pregfags so retarded and easily to con

>>42321142
still cheaper than real pregnancy

>>42321160
Just mad you dont have pregnant chrysalis money

>>42320031 (OP)
There's $2,000 hidden away in an envelope somewhere in my house, waiting for the day that my 70 inch nightmare moon plush is finished.
I certainly haven't spent anything close to that on anything else commission-wise, and I probably won't after, either.

>>42321141
>you got scammed, man
Nah, there's just a premium when the artist doesn't usually draw stuff like it. I paid about the same, maybe a little less, for this one. This was the first of her like this I ever commissioned, and I got alternative versions, but it's not like you can see Queen Chrysalis giving birth from the front anyway.

>>42321142
Usually, good artwork of the queen like this is $100, often much less. I just wanted WitchTaunter to make it. He's got a great style.

$60-$240 if it's art depending on art quality. Maybe more if you're commissioning something really elaborate and good.

No limit if it's a realistic life-sized pony fuckdoll with self-lubricating holes, a poseable internal skeleton, a weighted torso and limbs so it feels as heavy as it should be, and an internal heating system that also simulates a heartbeat and breathing to make it feel as real as possible while you cuddle her.

If you get a skilled roboticist that can make her move to ride you, there is no amount of money that would be CLOSE to enough.

>>42320031 (OP)
The correct answer is "Whatever you want."
You are not obligate to purchase art.

>>42320037
Absolute Chad. They can be surprisingly good quality too.

>>42320037
Any ones you recommend? I got a bit of spare cash this month

bump

>>42321708
just follow whoever rainbowdash69 commishes, he preys on them

>>42320295
Why don't you save that 5k and use it to make a small video game?

If you faggots just learned to AI prompt you wouldn't have to send money to an artist. Let the artists figure out AI themselves or let them starve like the starving artists they're supposed to be.

>>42322550
How exactly do you turn money into a video game?

>>42322550
>If you faggots just learned to AI prompt you wouldn't have to send money to an artist.
kek

>>42322679
>haha guys AI sucks because these quick proof of concept attempts were not exactly like my $400 commission that took months to complete

>>42322682
It's more like if you don't want something that's been done to death, you have to pay a human being who can make original works rather than a machine that can only reproduce stuff similar to what it's already been given.

>>42320040
Now post results ;^)

>>42322550
Why don't the aifags who are already prompting make a game?

>>42322613
Ask Gaben.

>>42322550
no one wants to play a game with AI art...

>>42323685
100M sold copies of Palworld say otherwise.

>>42322550
Why don't you learn to get an actual skill, promptjeet

>>42323685
touhoufags beg to differ

>mfw I offer my services for 8 dollars and only got three costumers in six months (two of them three times already) and the latest paid me a bit more than the base price.
Being cheap is useless if you're not a pro and/or have some kind of famous style.

>>42322679
These suck tho, but good for a quick fap so is good for coomers. At least now machines can be the ones making cumslop for retards and humans can be available to make actual art.

>>42323802
People don't actually respect dirt cheap commissioners. There's a minimum you have to hit before you have something that garners some semblance of self-respect first.

>>42320295
would you hire someone to work for you by the hour?

>>42323802
Have you considered that your art is simply shit? Either that or you're not advertising right.

>>42322679
>AI can't do horribly off-the-wall fetish shit so rare it doesn't exist in the training data
Oh no! Anyway

>>42321142
They're coddled. I guarantee 100% if that belly was that big under any circumstance other than pregnancy, he wouldn't be allowed to post it here.

>>42324011
>aijeets play the neopuritanism card when their slopper can't do things

>>42324011
Based

>>42320031 (OP)
That's a really hot pony...

What's the most you ever paid for a pony comm?

>>42320031 (OP)
0$.

You pay money for a single drawing? What are you, a loser?

>>42326207
>What are you
White
Employed
Have enough dollArs to do whatever I want
Not sure how should I put it so your brownbrain could understand.

>>42326217
>White
>Employed
>Have enough dollArs to do whatever I want
I know at least the first two are bullshit and the third is probably the monthly SSI because your fatass is too heavy and big to carry out through the front door. Learn what are needs and wants, porky.

>>42320031 (OP)
Free

>>42326231
>because your fatass is too heavy and big to carry out through the front door.
Bro... More than a half of IT fuckers working from home because of this and making big huge fat af salary

>>42326261
OK? And did I ask? No. I make big bucks playing basketball and plow my girlfriend after a long game while you just fap to stick drawings. Loser.

>>42326275
>I make big bucks
Yeeeah
>playing baseball
Riiight
>girlfriend
Absolutely. I believe you, stranger who's acting cunty on the horseboard.

>waiting on commission for over a year
>artist has kept saying "bro pls trust me it's coming trust me bro here's the deadline"
>deadline missed
>and again
>and again
>"please bro I'm serious for real here's the deadline I'll have it by then"
>sends a sketch
>misses the deadline once more
>"erm bro my pc bluescreened pls understand bro"

>>42326285
Okay, fatass.

>>42326291
What did you commissioned? Just curious

>>42326298
A full body of an OC (he does the same shading/color for everything offered)
No crazy background or sparkledog triple-horned alicorn anthro with biblically accurate angel wings or whatever. I won't namedrop anything but man this guy's been such a pain in the ass to work with.

>>42326291
>paying up front
pay stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>>42326334
No professional artist/illustrator will ever ask you to be paid upfront. Perhaps some fees or guarantee depending of the terms but you should only pay a commission only once you can see the final product.

>>42320031 (OP)
>She paid 34 yuan
>less than $5 for a full color OC
>meanwhile I read about someone paid a foalcon artist $2,500
Capitalism!

>>42326308
Just a ponpone oc? Drop the reference, I wanna make a little bit of justice for a cool guy who pays his artists upfront and have an angelic patience with them and draw your pon for free.

I paid a Russian artist $8 to draw my OC's ass in some underwear

>>42326291
I never commissioned anyone except once years ago, I'm usually the one that draws commissions for people, but I know some people who either got YCHes or outright commissions where they didn't get what they paid for even months/years after the initial payment and seeing that shit infuriates me to no end, especially when the end product is kinda shit, especially if it's for something that I could make in a couple days at least
>>42326364
>No professional artist/illustrator will ever ask you to be paid upfront. Perhaps some fees or guarantee depending of the terms but you should only pay a commission only once you can see the final product.
If you trust the artist and you've already gotten at least a couple pieces from them with little to no problems, I think that's when paying upfront isn't so much of a problem, but generally speaking providing an initial free sketch before fully committing to a commission is good practice so either you or the artist won't have to deal with refunds if you don't like what's being shown to you

>>42326384
The issue with a free market is that anyone can dictate prices, I clouding exorbitant high shitty prices, and if people are willing to pay those prices then other artists can get away with raising their prices

>>42326460
Also it makes sense for pedo artists to charge that amount for pedo art, since no else does they have the market cornered and you're forced to pay that price since no else does it

>>42326384
Context needed: Anon wanted proof from a trad artist that his drawings were not AI generated. Ready to get a complete refund if it was printed AI art. It was not AI art. It's not really foalcon but semi anthro Silverspoon.

I think what artist need to hear is when someone commission you, they don't want just art, but sometimes they need to talk to. About anything, socializing, making friends, art comm is an opportunity to get someone to talk with, art isn't that important. Just know that people need someone to talk to, and discuss their ideas, OC, background, don't just draw something and move on like an AI, but listen.

>>42326579
lmao get a load of this faggot
pay a therapist or a prostitute

>>42320220
>AIjeets

>>42322679
Even as a prompter guy I say that's an absolute burn.

>>42326716
This anon nailed it, we don't draw fro an audience. i draw for myself, as a hobby. i get followers, alright. It's growing, but that's not my motive. I don't even want an AI to draw what I want for me, because I like to draw. People ask me if I do commission, I don't like their ideas but why not.
I don't even compare with others or care what others draw, i don't even know the name of other artists, I can name Mouseu, CBtwi, Thebatfang, I'm not even using FA, Derpibooru, have a Deviantart, posting there is terrible and boring. i'm not begging after commissions but I'm not worried either. There's people with money who want what they can't have by any other mean, ok. But again, I draw just what I want.

I paid $60 for an artist to make my OC, with colors and a custom cutie mark and everything

>>42322695
And get yelled at for posting AI art outside the AI art thread?

>>42326716
>Falseflag
See >>42324011

>>42326956
Good for you, as an average I commission artists circa $100 maybe more if I have extra.

>>42323802
You got examples of your work?

>>42328537
It would be shilling and I feel like would be criticized for being completely terrible or called good just out of pitty but whatever I need to learn to deal with criticism.

>>42329111
Just a thought, but have you considered going lower with your pricing? Like, sub-$1?

>>42326384
Like you said, capitalism.
Maybe the chink didn't wanted to make foalcon.
Maybe the guy looked for someone else.
Maybe he found someone who could do it.
Maybe the artist was such an asshole he requested a retarded price because he knew he was a retarded fillyphile.
Maybe the guy actually was retarded and paid full price.

A lot of things dictates how much can be spend, but remember that idiots pay higher prices because the market is either cornered or (in the worst case) they only want bragging right. Don't believe me? Look at Ipod users.

>>42329158
Nah

>>42326716
Kinda misses the point tho. Ultimately that anon is just seething that laymen can play around with pictures now. The problem with arguments like his is that they assume people who prompt consider themselves serious artists. Most don't, they're just having fun with a new tool and aren't thinking about how superior they are or whatever.

Deviantart in the first few years of FiM was the peak of dirt cheap commission roulette
You'd have people fighting over actual peanuts
I remember getting a dozen pieces off someone for 400 points, which is something <50 cents a piece

Would they sometimes just dissappear and never be seen again after not doing a bunch of it? Wasn't uncommon, but frankly you were paying so little for it that if they did anything at all I'd say you were in the positive

Unfortunately the golden days have long since passed and that website is now a total mess, but I definitely got my money's worth back in the day on sfw art

>>42329837
>people who prompt consider themselves serious artists

There are people playing with Bing, Grok, ChatGPT or PonyDiffusion, but there's artistas using AI tools more seriously, more complex than Gimp or Photoshop.
They're spending time and research, even money, in crafting AI generated art using tools like Zoinksnoob, inpainting little details, expressions, arranging a prompt and how to capture something. That's nothing comparable to 'corporate' generators everyone spreads.

It's really art, AI artists are artists, not scammers pressing buttons, and as soon the laws on copyright changes, the status will change. We'll need court decisions and cases where AI wins legitimacy.

And be honest,
>>42329111
>>42329783
This isn't art.

>>42330178
>This isn't art.
It is by definition, but the skill level is still low. Maybe he needs to read some guides and anatomy notes. When he improves, it will be better art.

>>42330187
it's a child's drawing, just like people prompting for the first time, it's a drawing sure.

Is it art, not sure, but does the person who did it should be considered an artist, absolutely not.

You call your kid who draws your house an artist to make him happy, not a 18+ person who should make efforts.

Or, change technique, artists requires intellectual and physical aptitudes, or used to. This is where I'm coming to say I can't hold a pencil to even write something readable, but AI allows pure intellectual art to exist.

I don't like to boast, but clearly, artists mastering AI are smarter, and have an higher IQ than the average artist, and learning a tool that complex can and will make artists smarter, more knowledgeable on tech, on writing, on being elaborate and conceptualizing.

>>42326334

Pony art contributes largely to my income and I normally ask for the payment once my client approves the sketch; I've been doing it this way for years and it rarely caused problems; some time ago I had some severe health issues and couldn't work on stuff for months, but my clients were notified quickly and all were quite kind and patient once I was honest about my situation and how that'd impact the time it would take for their art to be done.

I know many professional illustrators who charge at least 50% of the total cost before starting to work, so it all depends on individual factors. For me, I mostly work for a small number of clients that consistently commission more art, and whenever one of them needs some time to get the payment, I still deliver the artwork. It's a flexible rule for many artists, me included. Depends on the client, depends on the circumstance. People eventually discover what's the best approach for themselves and their type of client.

>>42320031 (OP)

I rarely commission art, but as an artist, the max I've been paid was around 400 USD for a small comic. Then I got mega sick and unable to do it, but client told me he'd wait and that he didn't want a refund. Now I'm finally working on the pages and making progress. I hate when I have pending unfinished art, and it was a pain in my mind to think about the undelivered art, no matter how much I was told that I should take my time and heal.

>>42330178
I wouldn't call yourself an artist but instead an editor. You're not really creating the product. You're instructing something to make the product and are pointing out details you don't like with tools like in-painting and directing the entity to change those details. That's called editing. Editing isn't very artistic but it does require an eye for art in order to make a good product so I can give you half credence though ultimately I respect AI prompters who just admit they like to proompt cute mares and call it a day. Coping is cringe.

>>42330385
>You're instructing something to make the product and are pointing out details you don't like
>says the shartist who has to press ctrl-z 100 times to draw one line correctly

>>42330389
Not an artist, sorry. I prompt images myself. Also artists had control z in the past, it was called an eraser. In the end, it's their pen or pencil strokes. They create the product. You and I prompt images. Stop being an embarrassment. You have an extremely autistic rational and understanding of what art is.

>>42330397
So what about photography, movie directing and digital music ptoduction? Not art?

>>42330412
>Photography
The art of going out into the real world and capturing magical moment at just the right time and angle. If you want to argue that photography isn't art I'd argue it is but I'm not gonna die on that hill.
>Movie directing
Not art
>Digital Music Production
The only difference between music production in a digital audio workstation and doing it the classic way is instead of sheet music and requiring the capital to hire a bunch of people to read your sheet music you can do it for free on a machine with a piano roll and various virtual instruments. It still requires an understanding of theory and composition. It still requires practice. I can still play guitar without a DAW, I can still sing without a DAW, I can still play piano without a DAW. I'd even be so bold as to say if I was given the time and capital to do it the old school way of being given sheet and a band of people I could translate my skills in a DAW to create the product I want with people and sheet music. Digital art tools are not the same as press button for product.

>>42326384
>>42326468
That's not *actual* foalcon, there's nothing sexual in that drawing.
The buyer offered a price with fees and the buyer agreed to deliver the real traditional art by mail, came with an official document and a statement from the artist.

>>42329111
The only way you are going to get customers at the price you are asking is if you draw undesirable fetishes. But even then, you probably aren't skilled enough to portray said fetishes, and there's still competition on fucked up fetishes.

Your "art" is equivalent to something a toddler would draw. $8 is asking a lot desu. And that's coming from someone that has no problem dropping hundreds on a single comm. You do not have the right to complain about lacking customers until you improve.

I make art with AI and I've made digital art by hand in the past. I like both. I don't understand why everything needs to be tribalist nowadays. It seems politics have seeped into every aspect of people's beings, and the world is worse off for it.

I find art I like, steal it, then badly edit it to be about my OCs.
But if I'm feeling lazy, usually $25-50. I had one guy who I always commissioned, but he got drafted and died.

>>42329600
The buyer proposed Eur 2,000 for it with all fees, shipping, VAT and insurance reaching more than $2,500. The Artist, a Frenchman agreed, but had to file up tax report upon sale, earned less than $1,600. The picture can't be shown here being B&thro.

>>42330858
AI in general does brings a dilemma and political division, it does challenge conservative, and capitalist optics in the sense of content ownership. I've read tweets from right wing bronies simping for a generator created by devs with opposite views. (Purplesmart) I've also read left-leaning artists switching sides about AI, calling it theft because someone trained a lora on their art.

>>42330897
>AI in general does brings a dilemma and political division
No, it only does that if you want it to and have politics on the brain. Free your mind. Start thinking about mares instead.

>>42330911
>don't ask questions, just consoom mares and get excited for new mares

>>42330923
This, but unironically.

>>42329111
I'd pay for it
I like them

>>42330863
>but he got drafted and died
I really miss my russian ponyfriend, I hope he's with mares now.

>>42330911
Realist take: AI is being pushed now by big corporate shaking the same bubble again.

Politically speaking, both right and left arguments both support it. Both also hate it, I'm neutral, but being an AI user myself I'm being stuck in collaterals.

Right: It's a free meme machine!
Left: It's equality regardless of skill!

Right: It's collectivism, normalizes theft
Left: It's turning art into a commodity

Right: No longer have to pay a far left tr@nny for my favorite foalcon art
Left: No longer have to pay a far right n@zi for my favorite preggo art

>>42331003
Mares.

>>42330823
>no matter how things evolve I hope you keep creating, researching, improving, that's a freedom no one can take from us

Based and marepilled.

>>42330897
>$2,500. The Artist, a Frenchman agreed, but had to file up tax report upon sale, earned less than $1,600
ffffffff

>>42331396
Why is Monero still not the standard currency for comms?

>>42329111
You're at way too low a level to be doing commissions at all. Seriously? I've seen people on multiple sites with this level of delusion, thinking garbage that would be okay on /bale/ as beginner art is worth money.
In fact, I'll put it this way: your art, were you making it for free or in /bale/, generally in a learning state, would be okay. The fact you're trying to earn money on it and actually think it's worth anything strips any soul out of it and turns it into garbage.
Practice. Draw. Get better. Way better. Then, maybe you can think about being worthy of drawing for money.

>>42331849
It's not about commission itself; most commissioners don't care about the art you make.
They want their OC or fetish being drawn by someone.
It isn't even a customer-maker relation, some still have a legitimate interest in art, more however see this as a domination more than a creative process, or as a mean to engage conversation and force someone to pay attention to them.

>>42331978
>Blah blah blah
>>42331849 is right. You need WAY more practice before you can even begin to think about asking money for your work.

>>42320031 (OP)
$0. Learn to draw yourself.

>>42332020
Just use AI.

In b4 seethe. Get replaced.

>>42332032
>Brownoid skips out on long term satisfaction
>Opts for short term dopaaddict

>>42333146
KWAB

>>42330823
It's Patachu's way of gaslighting buyeranon even more, you can feel the sarcasm in every word after he tricked anon to let him buy a $2,500 drawing so it's the most unsincere and most fake headpat tldr to Anon making him feel less bad about his purchase, he had to invent something about in this pure commodity fetishism.

>>42330897
Good, it's awful to think a single, old (2017?) black and white silverspoon fanart no matter how good or weird it is shouldn't be this overpriced.

>>42333146
many such cases

>>42320031 (OP)
most ive paid for a commission so far was about 35 euro (~45 usd or so), but i havent commissioned many artists to begin with. i havent gone out of my way to find the cheapest commissions that look good, but i have found a couple that i have taken advantage of.
>scroll through rest of thread
jesus, anons; some of you lot will fight about anything

>>42331417
Where would you initially convert your untraced money into Monero ?

>>42333490
>some of you lot will fight about anything

>>42333498
Take your pick.

>>42333146
>long term satisfaction
most artists are depressed wrecks

>>42333780
And proud of it!

>>42326217
>Employed
imagine working for anyone but yourself.
stupid goy family really did you good didnt they?

>>42323802
if your shit looks like ass theres no reason to pay a dime for anything you do. post example.

>>42334413
ah i just checked out the rest. i wouldnt pay for yours at all.
you work for free until youre decent.