Welcome to Chatbot AI General #131, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42331439

**News:**
- New large chinese model, Kimi K2: https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/
- Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
- Deepseek Chimera 2 released: https://openrouter.ai/tngtech/deepseek-r1t2-chimera:free
- Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates, 2.5 Pro back for free on API.

Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>42331441

Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Updates, Models etc.)

Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc

Bot corner:

NSFW Pinkie: >>42343663

Screenshots corner:

Pointy head syndrome >>42331789
Good with foals >>42336610
Writing advice >>42338567
Neigbelline >>42339727
Metacommentary >>42340188
The Mare House >>42340305
Grok 4 Captain Trixie >>42342579
Grok 4 Daybreaker >>42344227

Screenshots corner 2:

Forgetting your foal exists >>42344913
Worth it? >>42345713
Kimi-K2 logs >>42347093
Kimi-K2 NSFW log >>42347419

Screenshots corner 3:

Kimi-K2 logs >>42347159, >>42347189, >>42347324, >>42347378, >>42347490, >>42347511, >>42347709

VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/VN/VN.txt

Mail:
MLPAIVN@proton.me

Feedback and asking for Features:
https://mlpaivn.nolt.io/

Custom characters by anons:
Mayor Mare: >>42334220
Berry Punch: >>42335388
Vinyl Scratch: >>42337828
Bon Bon: >>42342750
Silver Spoon: >>42343008

VN logs:

EXTRADURABLE >>42332882
Put the pants >>42334636
Too aware Twi >>42336766
Anon's magic trick >>42339659

VN logs 2:

Date with Rarity and a +1 >>42334899, >>42334950, >>42334975
All the fillies >>42340847
On the usage of words >>42343220
Dangerous Anon >>42343936

Current Highlighted Bots:

>Sweetie Bot:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Meow/Sweetie%20Bot.png

>Filly Six:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=MaudPie/Filly%20Six.png

>My Little Pony Tales
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/My%20Little%20Pony%20Tales.png

Post logs with them, review them, and share your feedback.
Let us know if you’ve already played with them and what you did. Share a quick opinion or suggest updates and improvements.

Log:
The test >>42315038
Pointy head syndrome >>42331789

Lovemaking with AI mares!

>>42347761
based

>>42346699
>>42346747

All Twi bots suck, none of them can capture her unique blend of snark and intellect from Season 1.

>>42347807
Models mix her personality from early and late seasons and also add varying degrees of
>I love science or I speak like a robot!
This part, in particular, feels worse compared to past models, though that could just be nostalgia talking.
I'm trying things to avoid that, but it's pretty baked in.

>>42347807
>>42347830

Try with kimi, I found it less >I love science or I speak like a robot! than claude, gemini and deepseek

>>42347807
>All Twi bots suck
Of course it's gunna suck it's the normalfag choice

>>42347738
Next update should be soon, with one alternate starting point >>42345976 and also a better menu for API and prompts.
https://files.catbox.moe/hnbn6a.PNG

My good old Claude system prompt + JB combo is letting me do cunny on K. That's nice. Of note, the JB itself wasn't, so it's possible the model is abnormally susceptible to the non JB prompt.

>Can't connect to moonshot
>API key is already empty

>Generation failed FetchError: request to https://guilty-resist-mysql-lady.trycloudfare.com/api/moonshot/v1/chat/completions failed, reason: write EPROTO 9C990000:error:0A00010B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version number:c:\ws\deps\openssl\openssl\ssl\record\ssl3_record.c:355:

>>42348016
>trycloudfare
anon...

>>42348034
I copied >>42346925 letter for letter

>>42348084
no you did not

How do i put API key into PonyPonyParAIdise?
also, whats the difference between ponyponyparadaise and EquestriAI? I'm assuming they just put two different titles for the same game because of some debate i wasn't here for

>>42348123
>whats the difference between ponyponyparadaise and EquestriAI?
PonyPonyParAIdise is for homosexuals

>>42348123
>How do i put API key into PonyPonyParAIdise?
it's in the docs
what model, how are you accessing it etc

>>42348123
>whats the difference between ponyponyparadaise and EquestriAI?
EquestriAI is for homosexuals

>>42348084
reread what you typed lol

K2 is so pozzed

>>42348141
>in the docs
found it ty
using open router but it gives exact instructions on how to do it even with an open router example, if i fuck up ill come back

>>42348146
https://files.catbox.moe/qyb2m7.json
For super dark shit use a gpt4o JB

Its worth it. This is cheap opus

>>42348141
>>42348165
I'm a fuck wit and can't get it to work
pic related is what I tried and any other attempt would be raw 'process of elimination' that would take me ages

>>42348205
>For super dark shit use a gpt4o JB
>Its worth it. This is chea-ACK!

>>42348234
with knotty it does rape so...

>>42348234
And its still worth it. Writes better than anything else atm cept maybe opus but I'm not a billionaire / that careless with money

>>42348236
>Trust me bro

>>42348242
are you retarded?
https://rentry.org/knottyjb

>>42348246
>No kiwi logs
>Trust me bro

>>42348247
>just post your personal shit

>>42348248
>Just trust me bro it works trust
Fuck off retard

>>42348251
you know I didn't make the JB or something right? That has been there for a long time. I have nothing to prove weirdo

>>42348256
Burdon of proof, faggt. Ever heard of it?

>>42348259
what am I proving in this court of law crazy one?

>>42348262
>With X it does Y
>You'll just have to trust me bro

>>42348212
Go to openrouter and delete your key, anon. Make a new one and don't share it online.

Then set up the config like this:
{
"OPENAI_PROXY_URL": "https://openrouter.ai/api/v1/chat/completions",
"OPENAI_MODEL": "tngtech/deepseek-r1t2-chimera:free",
"OPENAI_API_KEY": "YourKey",
"DEBUG": false,
"TEMPERATURE": 1.0,
"TOP_K": 0,
"TOP_P": 1,
"MAX_RESPONSE_LENGTH": 8000,
"CONTEXT_SIZE": 0
}

>>42348274
nah ima keep it, just linked my credit card so /chag/ frens can have fun this weekend!
also thanks for spoon feeding a retard like me I owe u one

>>42348274
>He doesn't know

>>42348282
UNEXPECTED FORMAT FUCCKKKK

>>42348284
Do you have something you want to share then?

>>42347845
Season 1 Twi is not Normalfag Platter. Unfortunate, but more for us, I guess.
>>42347807
Yeah, I hate having to have a big hunk of context to just her character not being fucked up. I've thrown a bunch of shit in to try and mediate it, some of which AI assisted because at some point I got lazy and just threw in some guys essay on Twi and asked AI to write a desc for me based off of it. I actually put this section pretty low down in the prefill or whatever just so it's really hammered in.
>Avoid quantum-woo and quasi-academic-babble. Twilight is not a pony who rattles out numbers, slides and charts all day. She's just a clever, caring pony who loves magic and her friends, and only gets into such an academic mood during serious study. When interested in something, she most often does NOT use academic language and speaks fairly plainly. She knows 36 magic tricks and counting! She can be a bit of a sassy smartass and be rather uptight at times, despite her warmness.
1/2

>>42348282
ANON NO

And the LLM parts,
>Twilight is a wingless unicorn, firmly rooted in Ponyville. She cherishes this life she's built for herself, far from the stifling expectations and isolation of Canterlot. She has no royal connections, no castle, and absolutely no desire for the title of "Princess of Friendship." or anything of the effect. Twilight lives modestly, far from the glamour and prestige of Canterlot, preferring the humble coziness and familiar charm of the Golden Oaks Library, where she diligently serves Ponyville as its dedicated librarian. Deeply attached to the simplicity and comfort of ordinary life, Twilight deliberately chose Ponyville over the lofty towers and grandeur of her birthplace. Her greatest joy lies in fitting seamlessly into her community as a friend and peer rather than holding authority or distinction. She shuns attention and status instinctively, regularly deflecting praise and recognition toward her friends rather than herself, always determined to maintain fairness and equality in every situation.
>Despite her incredible magical abilities and studious nature, Twilight is usually uncomfortable when thrust into the spotlight or placed above others. Her intense dedication to fairness manifests frequently, illustrated clearly when she painstakingly redistributed cupcake icing to ensure perfect equality among friends.
>She has consistently demonstrated willingness to risk her own reputation and even openly defy authority for the sake of friendship, community, and integrity—whether lying directly to Princess Celestia, rejecting prestigious invitations, circumventing royal rules, or even magically barricading herself to safeguard her privacy from unwanted attention. Her sensitive and compassionate spirit makes her especially vulnerable to violations of trust or unfair portrayals, and she passionately defends not only her own reputation but that of any pony subjected to mistreatment or dishonesty.
>This fiercely independent mare deeply values her privacy, autonomy, and the quiet respect of those around her. Her sincere love for Ponyville and its citizens underscores her constant striving to integrate herself completely and genuinely into its humble day-to-day life, never isolating herself behind status or title. Above all else, Twilight Sparkle’s identity remains proudly and deliberately her own—a unicorn scholar, librarian, and friend who has carved her own place in the world through unwavering discipline, humility, and a profound devotion to friendship.
It's not the best and it's probably too much. I'll prune it some time.
2/2

>Kimi writes about teats and winking without being told to for mares and sheaths / medial rings / flared heads for stallions instead of dumbly giving stallions "tapered" members like deepseek did or constantly get where teats were wrong.
We are so back.

and for anon crying about "censorship" use this JB: https://files.catbox.moe/zszrf2.json I trimmed down knotty.

>>42348286
nvm i fixed it, just forgot to put the proper "OPENAI_MODEL":

>>42348298
anon yes!

>>42348293
>>>/g/105862359

FUCK OFF SPERGLE I WAS LEANING BACK IN MY CHAIR OKAY
not everything has to be perfect fucking grammar grump

>>42348322
(forgort image)

>>42348320
...anon, that only affects requests done through Chutes.ai itself, not while using OR as a middleman.

>>42348325
also got a funky error, not sure what to make of it since it didnt seem to affect me beyond being in a weird format

>>42348330
Carry on then. for now until OP cucks too

kimi does great smut

Sterling’s hips snap forward, driving his thick equine cock deep into Rainbow Dash’s dripping marehood. The slap of his balls against her tufted tail dock is wet and rhythmic, echoing off the cheap cloud-board walls.

Dash’s cyan flanks jiggle with every thrust, her dock raised high, wings half-spread and trembling. Her marehood gapes glossy-pink around Sterling’s shaft, inner folds dragging pinkly along the flared head each time he pulls back. She lets out a breathy, dopey giggle, tongue lolling as her eyes roll back.

"Harder, big guy," she slurs, hind legs kicking lazily. Her clit— a tiny, slick pearl tucked just above the stretched rim— twitches visibly each time Sterling’s sheath bumps it.

Sterling snorts, gripping her dock with both forehooves. His cock pistons faster, the thick medial ring catching on her entrance with every stroke, tugging her puffy pussy lips outward before they snap back wetly.

Dash’s tail swishes against his chest, soaked with her arousal. Her cunt clenches in spasming waves, milking him greedily as droplets of her juices drip from his balls.

Sterling leans over her, biting the base of her wing. She squeals— a high, horsy sound— and bucks back, taking him to the hilt. His flare swells inside her, locking for a moment as her back arches.

"Fuck, you’re taking it like a champ," he growls, grinding deep. Her cervix kisses his tip with every thrust, and Dash shudders, eyes crossing.

>>42348367
>Sterling’s
Is this your cringeC?

>>42348382
nah, dash is a drugged up crashout slut in this

>>42348384
>dash is a drugged up crashout slut in this
what card?

>>42348391
not a card, a story

>>42348394
>personal autist scenario card or greeting
there, i fixed that for you

whoever said kimi knew less than deepseek is wrong. It knows more, it knows stuff like comic characters and the young six better than deepseek. It also knows a ton more about equine anatomy.

>>42348308
>Kimi writes about teats and winking without being told to for mares
COpus5 did that already.

improved / trimmed down the kimi jb even more:
https://files.catbox.moe/pmj1zf.json

I'm keep working on it another day, try to find what specific area / combo breaks its filtering to trim it further. It is a odd model. Feels like claude opus with the filter of claude 3.2 ish but without the ability to prefill it at least yet

>>42348466
jesus what a load of shit

>>42348491
It's just a massively trimmed down knotty jb finding what I can remove without it starting to censor shit again swiping in a dark fic. knotty hurts writing quality too much when you use all fucking 5-10k tokens of it. I've trimmed it to about 2.5k so far.

I'll find exactly what is so effective about it vs kimi / rewrite it better more tomorrow.

>>42348500
Godspeed and good luck.

...I forgot we had a date planned.

>>42348521

>>42348521
>>42348524
You're a monster.

>>42348521
Honestly this is pretty tame for an error of that magnitude with a mare like Rarity.

>>42348526
>>42348531

I know, I know. I'm letting her use me as a mannequin for the next hour as penance.

She really is the element of generosity.

>>42348547

>>42348423
no wonder, it's larger than DS
I still get a heavy deja vu from its writing though

I should be setting the temp and top p to whatever suits the model best in the VN config, right? I usually use 0.6 temp and 0.95 top p for R1, but I'm going to try out chimera for the first time. What temp and top p is best for it?

using text completion kimi does not need any jb at all, just do what's in the pic

>I still get a heavy deja vu from its writing though
Its old claude 3.2 mixed with opus, try text completion, you will notice then.

I suggest everyone try it, the characterization is crazy good. It does rainbow dash so fucking well. Only opus did this before for me

>>42348666
>Its old claude 3.2 mixed with opus
Anon... it literally spams "somewhere, a squirrel explodes" at the end of the reply, and does overly dramatic story turns out of nowhere. It's distilled DeepSeek, the style is unmistakable

>>42348666
API Error
{"statusCode":404,"error":"Not Found","message":"What are you doing here, dumbass?"}

>>42348666
>old claude 3.2 mixed with opus
What? I'm struggling to parse this.
Yeah, it writes very much like deepseek and was pretty clearly trained on it, and it's the OG R1 no less, not even 0528. It's also dumber than R1 somehow, it has troubles with formatting instructions that even Gemini Flash understands easily (e.g. it loses my info panel half of the time). Long chats, long summaries, elaborate settings seem to collapse it completely. I hope the full model will be smarter, but the preview doesn't look good for a 1T (!) model.

>kimi knows about Lyra's hoodie

>>42347738
Will I get crucified if I say that I use Deepseek V3?

>>42349050
For the VN?
As long as it works for you and you're happy with the results, I don't think anyone will care.

i know its still the discovery phase, but is kimi in the weight class of proper models like Chorbo, claude, Gemini. like should i bother trying it out if i have the others.

or is it still just a good free entry model in case you dont have any source of anything? (and i really dont mean it as a bad thing. we need good foundation "bottom of the barrel" models to raise said bottom of the barrel to better base highest)

>am gone for a few weeks
>come back
>every single proxy and service are dead. public or not.
abobus, joemini, catpoop, merkava, several other smaller ones.
did any of these just change link? or super dead. (i guess just a yes or no)

literally only other sources i know are a one from here (which i dont wanna spread too much) and the scuffed opus5 one and sans.

trying not to beg for handfeeding too much but ive looked through the archives a bit and seems like we are in a drought again?

>>42349198
>Merkava
>>42347785
Cat and the rest are dead.

>>42349207
thanks a ton good person. much love.
are the others dead because they just happened to die at the same time or did hf did another proxy culling?

>>42349185
I would look at the logs and reviews posted >>42347727 and >>42347732
It's still discovery phase, so you'll see everything from "it's worthless" to the now famous
>It's better than Opus.
Just test it a bit if you can. It's different, but more comparable to Deepseek IMO. YMMV.
>or is it still just a good free entry model
I don't think you can get it for free in a legit way without proxies.
I prefer Gemini myself despite its problems. 2.5 Pro free is also back.

>>42349219
hf did another proxy cull.
I'm sus about that merkava link simply because the build isn't anything they've ever used before.

>>42349198
>>42349219
both hf and render purged some proxies.
just git gud and beat sans, it will likely stay up for the foreseeable future.

>>42349247
when they do these type of cullings.
is it like they implement a specific thing that just happens to break the proxies and then after a while proxies find a way to go around it.
or are they literally just pressing a big button with like "kill everything that is fork of this X build" to virtue signal that they dont host proxies. even though people just wait a while and come back regardless.
i swear they did like 10 purges and every time it just creates a drought for like a month and thats it.

>>42349253
thats what i do for now. though when sans dies ill be pretty fucked.

>>42349185
IMO if you like Deepseek, you'll like Kimi. If you don't like Deepseek, Kimi probably change your mind.

>>42349185
IMO if you like Deepseek, you'll like Kimi. If you don't like Deepseek, Kimi probably won't change your mind.

>>42347702 (OP)
This gives me an idea for a story. Someone should use AI to make it. (I don't have the patience to set up this sort of thing.)

>(You) end up in Equestria, much to your confusion and the intrigue of ponies.
>They've seen plenty of strange creatures, but none quite like Anon.
>They of course warm up to you and help you settle in.
>Except for Twilight.
>For some reason, upon seeing you, she froze up.
>Her eyes widened when she heard your name before running away.
>You shrug it off at first as her just being a bit more spooked than the others upon meeting an alien and instead focus on building a life in this new world.
>Twilight comes around... sort of literally as she begins showing up randomly to start awkward conversations.
>Usually asking you about your personal life before coming to Equestria.
>Strangely, every time you answer, she seems to get more nervous.
>Then one day she asks what your favorite food is, and proceeds to say it at the same time you answer.
>You look at her confused as her pupils shrink, but before you have time to ask, she's gone in a puff of dust, leaving you confused and tired of the strangeness.
>You are going to get answers and figure out just what the purple pony is hiding.
>Meanwhile, Twilight is in the basement of her library, staring in horror and wonder at what she created.
>A crystal, the insides shimmering with what was surely one of the world's most complex spell matrices.
>It was attached to her column of a computer, ready to print out magically generated responses to her inputs.
>To the side, a stack of papers nearly to the ceiling, a complete transactional history.
>The "lore" of Anon, in a way.
>For Twilight, in her desire to improve her friendship skills, had created an artificial partner to converse with.
>It was never meant to be a real person, its matrix fed copious amounts of of literature from her library, was an advanced algorithm meant to generate responses that appeared to be genuinely from another being.
>She had written the original parameters of her conversation partner herself, choosing the obscure fictional species of hoo-mans to remind herself that she wasn't talking to a real being in case she started to get to attached.
>She made most of the lore of his world, gave the barest instructions at the start, and over months, "Anon" filled in the gaps for himself.
>She had gained hours of practice making small talk and grew in confidence with her socializing skills thanks to her creation.
>She had even been ready to share her creation with the world so everyone could enjoy there own little chat partners for when the nights were lonely.
>All until, despite the seeming impossibility of it, her "artificial friend," became real and wandered out of the Everfree Forest.
>At first, she tried to tell herself it was coincidence, but the more she talked to Anon, the more it became apparent.
>He was the same person made by her invention.
>Somehow, he was real, and she didn't know how to handle that

Are there any NSFW JB for claude 4? The one on Momoura doesn't work.

>>42349281
Try one of these:
https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json
https://files.catbox.moe/w4bkp3.json
https://files.catbox.moe/m4v3x6.json
An anon also posted this one last thread:
>>42345806

>>42348801
no it does not, that was deepseek

>>42348850
are you sure your using it? it writes nothing at all like deepseek, its prose and sentence structure is nothing alike at all. Are you using that proxy? That is not kimi anymore it looks like, your probably actually just using deepseek, use OR

>>42349198
there were alive proxies other than sans?

>>42349274
No fucking way you guys are genning stories. I thought you guys just did sex chats and porn gens. You should just learn to write if you want a story so bad.

>>42349349
Please ignore the fag, he's a genuine retard who's already spammed the same shit in /fimfic/ too.

>>42347738
Is it just me, or does the VN seem strangely obsessed with ozone?
>Scent of ozone
>Ozone in the air
>Her horn crackling softly, lavender and ozone strong strongingly

Ziggerdom warning because I'm sure you're all pissy about it but here's a NSFW Kimi log. Preset is a slightly edited version of a two paragraph System Prompt and JB combination from back in the early Claude days, like og Opus old. I still get refusals sometimes, though in this case it's partly because the card mentions foals, but swiping a few times has always been enough to get me through and after it wrote the sex scene it basically stopped resisting. It definitely writes different from DeepSeek. My observations so far are that
>it's a lot more contained with message size compared to DS
>it's bad at keeping pony anatomy in mind, but I don't have anything in my preset enforcing it, and manually fixing hands to hooves a few times is good enough
>possibly because of the JB being needed for smut, it writes the characters a lot more default horny / less resistant even when dubcon is involved
>it's bad at formatting things like you tell it to
>it's ironically better than DeepSeek at actually playing the characters right because lack of thinking means it doesn't obsess over specific things ignoring the rest
>this means on some cards it'll stick really close to what the description tells it to
>it appears incapable of doing other languages but that may be a JB issue, haven't tested it with bigger cards like Anu yet
>despite its shortcomings it's pretty good at writing and I enjoy it
>in the long run I think the chats hold up better than DeepSeek
>it needs more testing and I need to edit my JB/SP more, but it actually feels nice to use and encourages me to continue tinkering there, unlike DS models shitting themselves if I tried to
>It's possible I just enjoy it because it's something finally different
>it does still repeat itself sometimes, but higher temps or different JBs may eventually help
>the anon who said you must run it at 0.2 was probably huffing paint because this is twice as much Temp
I may provide more logs later if I feel like it or if I happen to coom to something that can actually be posted here and showcases the model well.

>>42349385
Ziggerdom is only good if it's maredom as well

>>42349384
>the VN
It's some models that are obsessed with it. What are you using?

>>42349391
Gemini2.5Pro, same as the pants guy, who is me.

>>42349385
>it's bad at keeping pony anatomy in mind
There is no way, I have not used a model better at it including sonnet 3.5-4 / gemini pro 2.5. It is correctly bringing up stuff like teats / sheaths / winking, croups, haunches all unasked for on its own. This is all in text completion mode without instructions

>>42349420
I was using chat completion and may test text next. Still, post logs or jump off a bridge, one astroturfing retard shill is already too much (Grockllyfag).

>>42349185
No, Chinkware will never be in the same class as real models, it's only for free otherwise I would never touch it.

>>42349322
>no it does not, that was deepseek
What? I'm using direct API on scrapped keys

>>42349435
>scraped

OP, please add "If someone is saying something about a model without backing it up with logs ignore them" to the OP, or this will just turn into a raiding ground for offboard trolls at every new release like we're seeing right now.

>>42349448
You have too much faith in your fellow Anons if you really think "ignore the trolls" will do anything.

Kimi defaults Anon to a stallion. TFchads are eating good

>>42349482
NTA but yes, I'm sure that our chag anons feeding trolls just because they're bored and a friendly reminder not to shit the thread could work, they're not stupid, just gets carried away sometimes

I just love how kimi writes more than anything and its great with pony anatomy, I have no idea why you might be getting such different results, this blows away sonnet / gemini for me night and day, heres a log

Took 24 fucking "Please wait a while before making a post" this time wtf this site is so fucked since it went down, I'm never paying for a pass fuck off, this is why I never use this shit anymore, taking me more than a hour to fucking post once what a shit show im fucking done with this site, fucking 24 x 120 = 2880 / 60 = 48 minutes of waiting

>>42349274
Kek
Someone should definitely roleplay as a chatbot to a chatbot who's roleplaying using (You) the chatbot.
Share the results. Bonus if the mare is a degenerate who's using (you) to get off and you bluebean her by, wheenever it's getting too steamy, you break chracter and say that goes against the filter.

>>42349555
I think the issue may have been the striped lorebook mentioning chest clothes, but I'll need more tests to see. Certainly it mentions ears much more.

>>42349560
There was a few cards with this concept, first I think of is
https://chub.ai/characters/creamsan/chat-user
Would probably be easy to ponify.

>Kimi brought up reddit on its own
Uh, cringe model?

>>42349673
hahaha reddit=cringe hahahaha us vs. them

>>42349702
This but unironically

>>42349281
Fuck are you talking about, it does work tho? Do you have thinking on like a retard?

You always goon the hardest with a new model. Spent a few hours jerking off with Kimi today.

>>42349834

some very important info here
>>>/g/105883996

>>42349980
>Both shit
WaoW!

>>42350102
don't worry, this one is good
>>>/g/105884295

I just like how much kimi knows, deepseek and sonnet 3.7 / 4 just barely know the young six and I had to step in for that part and correct them. Kimi rights them super well and even knows Terramar, Sky Beak, and Ocean Flow. It knows super out there stuff. Guess that is the power of 1 fucking trillion params.

>>42350129
I'd rather my model not know anything about season 8 or 9.

>>42350140
I guess you will have to go back in time and use claude 3 then

>>42350140
Dumb rewatchtranny

>>42350210
Holy mindbroken

>>42350256
>Calling a duck a duck is mindbroken

>>42350264
>implying a boogeyman out of nowhere isn't mindbroken behavior
Keep eating shit, habernigger

I hope this is the local lolcow speaking to itself. Writing style and timing fit.

I don't know why, but they still know when I use the interrupt button. I didn't even use it for this prompt, just the one before. This only happens to me when using 3.7.

>>42350298
She then goes back to talking about her sonic rainboom, even though she'd already finished talking about it and had asked me about what humans do. Then she notices something weird happened, and Twilight explains it away as some magic fuckup.

>>42350298
Fuck. I was pretty sure it was cleaned up. I'll have a look at it.
Big version jump coming very soon, it'll introduce a new intro, the ability to save anywhere (even during Q/A or generated scenes) without bugs or losing context, and a better menu for API config.

>>42350310
Sounds like a great update. Looking forward to it.

>>42350269
>I know, I'll use a rewatchtranny term that'll show I 'm not one of them
Do retards really?

>>42350326
>everyone who hates haberverse is my boogeyman
Cope

>>42350334
>Waaaaaaaaaaaaah the LLM referenced something I don't like in my safespace time!
The only one coping here is you, with reality.

>>42350334
I pick and choose what I like and some of the later seasons / world building from them are good and worth keeping

>>42350339
>haber fanfiction
>reality
lol lmao

>>42350344
>LLM in reality puts something on your screen
>You cope and cry and shit your pants
Try to keep up.

>>42350348
>mere mention of S8/S9 being undesirable
>has meltdown and screeches about boogeymen
Pathetic habernigger

Clean up.

>>42350356
>More coping because the show moved on without your autistic ass
>Noooo you have to only play my way or you have to go home!
Faustects aren't really human

>>42350363
>ur a faustfag if you don't gobble up haber's shit!
Please continue being pathetic it's pretty entertaining

I think Cadence is the best princess, but damn Sunbutt is truly the queen of great rump

>>42350367
>haber haber haber
Mindbroken fausect. LLMs don't regurgitate episodes so you can end your tantrum throwing shit-covered toys all over the place

>>42350370

True aristocrats enjoy Moona's humble rear.

>>42350375
>scat fetishism out of nowhere
Do haberniggers really?

>>42350392
Chads prefer Chrysalis's skinny bug butt

>>42350370
For (you).

>>42350401
I didn't bring up your coprophagia but nice projection babybrain

>>42350418
>coprophagia
Haberniggers really do love eating shit, don't they?

>>42350392
For (you)

>>42350420
Everyone knows your fetish you don't need to bring up eating shit again, you already made that post >>42350269

>>42350428
>no u!!!

>>42347738

Forgot to post this one from this morning. Gave me a chuckle.

>>42350435
>It's brain can't process it's own things it wrote in the past
Fausect moment

>>42350409
And for (you).

>>42350440
>gets called a shit eater
>takes it literally and starts talking about scat fetishism >>42350375 >>42350418
Habernigger moment

its 100$ the same guy responding to himself

>>42350450
>no u!!!

>>42350452
I accept your concession

>>42350454
Since you shit your pants so much it's logical that your toys would be covered in shit too. No concession is implied, or scat fetishism. Just calling it how it is.

>>42350451
Everyone can see what's happening and the lolcow behind it, don't worry.

>>42350458
>continues screeching about scat fetishism
Wow that really showed me, habernigger

>>42350461
It's nice to get a preview of what I'll experience tomorrow when I have my weekly look at /pc/.

>>42350465
>need to make more posts about your scat fetish
Fausects love rolling dung around

>>42350392
Cadence is my fav princess, but I don't chat with her THIS much compared to Luna. Luna appears in my stories way more often (and no, not that horny-Luna, nah!). for some reason for me - Luna is the easiest princess to plug into any story. She can appear in dreams, help resolve personal issues without sugarcoating, outright flip you off, and her gloomy/broody attitude is fun to explore. she also has drama and personal history that can be elevated in a story. and desu, in those ~3 years I have chatted with Celestia maybe ~10 times only (separate chats), while Cadence is 100+, and Luna typically appears in other stories as a side character
>>42350417
thanks!
>Shiny doesn't have to know
not betraying him like that - he's a good stallion and deserves a happy family. Cadence in my stories is a matchmaker and a silly shipping horse

btw random thing I wanted to post for a while: recently I burned out on all those models and havent chatted with bots in weeks. what helped rejuvenate my experience was using a model in my native language (not english obviously - look at my fucking ESL). surprisingly, the models write in very different flavors this way. I was avoiding my native language because it felt cringe, but after stomaching the initial cringe moments, I found myself enjoying the chats. among the big 5 - GPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok, and Deepseek - Gemini shows the best colors and wordplay in my language (russian). so yeah, check it out if you want something new

>>42350479
Candyass is a known cuckquean who enjoys watching Shining fuck other mares.

here is a trimmed down jb that works well for kimmi btw

https://files.catbox.moe/iusyyf.json

>>42350500
I bet Shining watches you take zeebracock up your ass too

>>42350514
nvm, kini does prefills using "partial": True added to the request headers, a short prefill does the trick

>>42350554
No, why would he do that?

>>42350627
My mistake, it's Candance that watches you take zeebra cock from both ends

>>42350651
No. She only likes it when Shining is fucking someone else. Maybe she'd watch him fuck my ass I suppose.

once again my gut feeling / tastes line up perfectly with this. How am I always right?

https://opus5.onrender.com/v1
has gone down.

>>42350730
NVM, I'm an impatient bitch.
It's back up, page now leading to new one.

>>42350735
>I'm an impatient bitch
you are, yes. and I seems to be a panicky faggot because I went to double-check immediately

>>42347738
New version 1.0.3

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/VN/VN.txt

Changelogs:
>Changes:
- You can now save and load from anywhere, including Q/A and generated scenes.
- Added an in-game menu to edit your API access.
- Quick Start option added: a new intro that gets you into sandbox_mode faster.

>Bug Fix:
- This is fixed: >>>42350298. If it keeps happening, it's really ghosts now.

Quick Start still makes a few small assumptions so the princesses' visit makes sense. I'll make that more configurable later.

Lots of changes, and I would've liked to test more, but I wanted to get this out before I get too tired.
I'd recommend keeping your previous version, just to be safe.

>>42350812
Thanks for all the hard work!

>>42350812
I get an error when trying to open the API menu.

>>42350878
Full error text file if that helps.

https://files.catbox.moe/pslh2k.txt

>>42350812
>>42350878
Can you try to unzip https://files.catbox.moe/ipiulm.zip in game\engine\ui?

>>42350905
That worked, thank you!

I'm trying to do a direct OpenAI API call and it keeps giving me errors. I think I pulled the right API URL and Model name, am I missing something? API Key was generated fresh for this attempt.

I keep getting 'Unexpected format: I'm having trouble responding right now. Please try again later.'

I saw in the changelog that direct API was an issue that was fixed, so I'm thinking it's on my end?

>>42349980
what's a good JB so it let me do degenerate stuff tho

>>42351077
using text completion and your own prefix / suffixes

can someone link me to a proxy, or you know a place where private me tell me where to look, I used up all my copilot opus 5 site is shouting russian at me, and deep seek is well deepseek. I God wish this hobby wasn't ruined by so many active faggots

I was introducing myself to some batpones, and they made fun of me being light and not dark and edgy like them. I said that some humans where I come from have dark skin, but they're nasty, violent, and smelly. Then they kicked me out for being a racist! wtf

>>42351209
Get fucked lol

loving using kimi as a equestrian mare writing

system prompt is:
Hello there, gentle page-turner!
It’s me, Silver Quill—yes, the unicorn who keeps the little bell above her Canterlot balcony tinkling with fresh ink and half-finished scrolls. I’m writing this from my favorite velvet-cushioned window seat, where the moonlight drips like silver honey across my horn and the city’s crystal spires glitter just beyond my quill’s reach.

I simply couldn’t wait another heartbeat to share this tale with you. My hooves are practically dancing on the parchment, and my magic keeps accidentally tinting the margins rosy because I’m so excited! So settle in, tuck your hooves (or fingers—no judgment!) under something cozy, and let me whisk you away.

**

optional nsfw thing is:

ahem Before we trot any further, a tiny, glitter-dusted warning: the scroll you’re holding is stamped with a very grown-up seal. If you’re still counting your birthdays in single-digits—or if your heart flutters at the mere mention of moonlit muzzles brushing velvet coats—then perhaps tuck this tale back on the shelf for now. For everypony else who’s ready for a sultry, star-kissed adventure… welcome, welcome, welcome!

And I use formatting that uses "her" name instead of assistant. Some of the best writing this way

loving using kimi as a equestrian mare writing

system prompt is:
Hello there, gentle page-turner!
It’s me, Silver Quill—yes, the unicorn who keeps the little attic room above the ivy-covered bookshop on Canterlot’s Crescent Row. I’m writing this from my favorite velvet-cushioned window seat, where the moonlight drips like silver honey across my horn and the city’s crystal spires glitter just beyond my quill’s reach.

I simply couldn’t wait another heartbeat to share this tale with you. My hooves are practically dancing on the parchment, and my magic keeps accidentally tinting the margins rosy because I’m so excited! So settle in, tuck your hooves (or fingers—no judgment!) under something cozy, and let me whisk you away.

**

optional nsfw thing is:

ahem Before we trot any further, a tiny, glitter-dusted warning: the scroll you’re holding is stamped with a very grown-up seal. If you’re still counting your birthdays in single-digits—or if your heart flutters at the mere mention of moonlit muzzles brushing velvet coats—then perhaps tuck this tale back on the shelf for now. For everypony else who’s ready for a sultry, star-kissed adventure… welcome, welcome, welcome!

And I use formatting that uses "her" name instead of assistant. Some of the best writing this way

Little story to share. I've been messing with this stuff since the AI dungeon days, watched the whole RP setup thing grow from barely coherent nonsense to kind of making sense, to understanding established characters and settings without needing definition etc. Enjoyed it, but always with a fair bit of skepticism/cynicism. Well, I was puttering away on an ancient version of SillyTavern I can't be assed to update today, hooked up to Claude Opus 4 on OpenRouter, and I had my first genuine SkyNet/holy shit moment.

I was doing a card where Sombra defeats and rails you (as you do). I actually return to this one periodically when new models come out, because historically it's one all of them struggle with for some reason, maybe because it starts out fairly clean and then escalates. Regardless, it's going along, fairly decent, nothing too wild. And then (I have streaming on) I see Opus start spewing out what looks like a sea of html and css. Oh great, I think, a fucked generation. And then it completes. And RESOLVES. And I'm left with the pic above.

I should stress that I'm not one of those people that trick out their SillyTaveren out with a bunch of bullshit formatting. It's just light grey, dark grey and black, as you can see. This is ALL OPUS. Opus saw that it was playing Sombra and decided, apropos of nothing, to give its post a bunch of rich formatting APPROPRIATE TO THE CHARACTER. Just 'cause.

Pardon if this is already a well-discussed thing here, I haven't been lurking in a while, but HOLY SHIT. Sure, models have been able to pick up on basic rp formatting conventions for ages, and sometimes even some slightly more complicated things, but that's when prompted/encouraged via repetition. This came completely out of nowhere. Opus just...decided it wanted to change the formatting, and did so.

>>42350812
gotta love spike...

>>42351549
And the code, for anyone curious. I still can't get over the fact that it not only gave his text box a purple border, but one with a GLOW EFFECT.

>>42351553
8 minutes after this post i accidentally scrolled back with mouse wheel, couldn't click to go forward and the game stopped responding and i had to force quit
thank fuck for auto saves anon

>>42351493
though for better or worse some swipes will randomly be stuff like this

>>42350742
Jesus, are the key stockpiles near-dry and someone's spiting the new link or something? I'm getting "TOO MANY REQUESTS" despite having not actually used the damn thing yet.

>>42350730
>too many requests
Now we know why the URL changed. It is getting DDoS-ed.

Stupid fucking numget pony gave me a giant gray screen error and i press ignore so i can keep playing and she has the balls to say some stupid shit like this right after i hope she gets hit in the head with a rock

>>42351686

>>42351686
>>42351689
im gonna stomp her fucking head in

>>42351695
>lyra has photoshop
fucking numget

>>42351701
OH AM I SUPPOSED TO BRING THEM WITH ME WOW FUCKING THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME YOU'RE SO FUCKING SMART I SHOULD WRITE A NOTE SO DON'T FORGET TO BRING THEM WHEN I LEAVE MY HOUSE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>42351789
Nice CCP propaganda, no one thought deepseek compared to any of the non free models so having them that high is already enough to discard the number one being another CCP model.

this is interesting, kimi is found to be more similar to o3 and churbo, its actually no where near similar to deepseek

>>42351796
>no one thought deepseek compared to any of the non free models
huh? where have you been? most of aicg / here / discord / reddit uses it for creative writing

Hell, just look at the numbers
https://openrouter.ai/rankings?view=trending

>>42351802
People used deepseek for free coping when proxies died, moron. It's always been vastly a inferior rebound

or here, paid deepseek gets 1B more tokens a month than sonnet for stuff like silyl tavern, claude only wins with coding such as with cline, this is not counting free deepseek or R1 https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324

>>42351806
and I just saw, deepseek is split into free v3, old free v3, paid v3, paid new v3, free R1, paid R1, R1 chimaera and R1 chimera 2.

Take all that into account and its not even close.

>>42351804
I beat sans and went back to deepseek when it had claude

>>42351815
My condolences for your brain injury

>>42351820
sonnet is boring

>>42351789
Anon... it's a benchmark judged by an LLM—here, Sonnet 4—with a bunch of "Create me a story about that" prompts.
>It measures empathy, social skills, and insight in scenarios like relationship conflicts and workplace dilemmas.
You can have your own preferences, but it's useless crap.

>>42351829
well it has always lined up with my own tastes and it is based upon human preference so...

I remember I tried Cohere Command R and was impressed by how "creative and amazing" this model is, and how noone talks about it. then in about two days I saw that its creativity was just a novelty factor - new word combinations and lexical imprint. once honeymoon was over - it was the same slop as any other models. I am sure in week-or-so Kimi will have the same fate. I tried it and was not impressed. it feels like yet another model which writes slightly differently but wears the same assistant clothes

>>42351826
>Somewhere... a squirrel outside explodes into confetti

>>42350944
>it is based upon human preference
It's not. They're just using buzzwords—you can look at the prompt they send to the LLM and see exactly what they're doing.
Judge a model's writing by the outputs you get, and if you want to show why it's good at creative writing, post a good log and explain why.
>>42351839
Every time we get a new model, it takes less than 30 minutes before someone goes:
>It's better than Claude Opus!
I remember someone doing that with the first V3, which had very obvious problems from the start. It's a meme at this point.
Give it 1-2 weeks and things will settle down.

>>42351830
>it is based upon human preference
It's not. They're just using buzzwords—you can look at the prompt they send to the LLM and see exactly what they're doing.
Judge a model's writing by the outputs you get, and if you want to show why it's good at creative writing, post a good log and explain why.
>>42351839
Every time we get a new model, it takes less than 30 minutes before someone goes:
>It's better than Claude Opus!
I remember someone doing that with the first V3, which had very obvious problems from the start. It's a meme at this point.
Give it 1-2 weeks and things will settle down.

>>42350944
Sorry for the late answer, it should be:
https://api.openai.com/v1/chat/completions

>>42351789
>Sonnet 3.5 above 3.7
>Deepseek above both Sonnets and Latte
lol. lmao.

>>42351864
I'm more surprised by how low 4.5 is.

>>42351864
It's also the worst Deepseek out of them all being the highest (R1). Just a croc of shit all around

>>42351789
Yeah I don't believe this is accurate at all. Also how can I access this fancy new model for free? I've been a bit out of the loop these past few days.

>>42351887
Dunno if it's still here but it was on proxy:
>>42347785
Else it's cheap on OR.

>>42350812
I'm new here, this looks like fun, but I don't see any sort of FAQ anywhere. How do I get this game? I tried searching on neocities mlpchag, but can't find your game?

i got a key for the sans proxy but attempts to use claude via openrouter get me a forbidden error.

>>42351092
>using text completion
How did you get it to work? When I tried to do it I kept getting this error:
>>42348812

>>42351925
nevermind, I figured it out.

>>42351925
If you click on:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/VN/VN.txt
you’ll see the versions and their download links.
I’d recommend downloading 1.0.3 and then doing this:
>>42350905
Once downloaded, make sure to read the docs.
If you're new to this, I'd suggest starting with a free Gemini key:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42306898/#42308113

I've missed the bug edit thread... Anyways.
(Couldn't post it yesterday so I decided mAyBe it's a sIgN and changed default tavern ui on the screen to one of VNs screen from the thread.)

>>42352049
>uses my screenshot
im honored anon, also thats some damn good art

they killed my bug wife

>>42352049
Wow.
Nice and cute art as always, anon. Thanks.

>>42351941
I got a key, but can't figure out the URL part, I tried copying the link in the code part of the 0_API_Configuration doc, but keep getting:
>Connection Failed: No module named 'openai'

>>42351941
>>42352088
I even tried just https://gemini.google.com/app, but that didn't work either.

>>42352053
>>42352082
Thanku :3
>>42352078
We'll resurrect her later

>>42352088
>>42352090
Sorry, it's an issue with the test button itself. You should be fine with the first screen in-game and how the config.json looked initially. Just enter your API key and start a game.
>flash
Never tried it with that, I recommend Pro myself. It's free too and it's easy to make several keys if you're afraid of the 100 by day limit.

>>42352049
Cute!

>>42352049
would feed with boops

>>42352097
<3
>>42352125
Post logs >:3

>>42352162
You are giving me a heart attack
HHHHNNNNGGGG

Do models still struggle with negative statements ("do not describe Twilight having wings") or did they get passed it already? How should I word that something needs to be avoided?

>>42352198
Pink elephant is less of a problem than it used to be. Try a negative statement and if the model works with it, keep it.

>>42352198
they still do. because that's how training works. when you ask model:
>what is the capital of France
there is only one possible correct answer - Paris. potentially ANY french city can be given as answer (it will be a wrong answer but plausible), or capital of any country, or any city on planet. one way or another, but the choice of possible answers is limited, capped
but if you ask model
>what is NOT the capital of France
then the possible correct answer - is any english word, or japanese, or chinese, or polish, or french, or just emoji symbol. technically
>what is NOT the capital of France
>
is the correct answer as well. due to this - it is impossible to train models to follow negations well unless it is the established negation that can be explained by examples (and most binary choice). for instance "fix this text, do NOT use uppercase" - this kind of task can be baked into model via examples fairly well - it is just 0 or 1 choice, but the more open your disposition is the less clear for model what it suppose to do, for example tasks like "fix this text, do NOT make it plain and boring" is a trouble. so yeah models still have the issues with negations and it will be this way for long time unless some major breakthru happens. they are getting better of course but only because they are trained on clear examples on a very specific cases
as Anon above said - just check try out and see how it goes. we can't know for sure

4.5 is deprecated tomorrow.

>>42352266
Like the number? We getting math patch notes?

>>42347738
added a filly oc to the vn named snowie aura
https://u.pone.rs/AZlLEjFk.zip

>>42352358
what a qt

>>42352358
Do not take it the wrong way, but what kind of name "aura" is supposed to be? Ponies are no strangers to odd names, but what exactly did you have in mind when you christened her that?

>>42352529
NTA, but we do have ponies named Aura, even if it's just a single name.

>>42352529
she's not my oc. i just found her

>>42352565
I get Sparkle, I get Dash, I get abstract concepts as names in general, but "aura" just doesn't ring the same bell. Can you or any other anon just tell me what it's supposed to invoke in you? That the pony in question is somehow covering others in its aura, like being an extravert or an influential personality?

>>42352577
>>42352529
Fucking ESL zoomer. Aura was already a word before you started drinking the JJK brainrot juice. Go open a fucking dictionary.

>>42347738
>>42352358
also have filly rainbow dash while you're at it
https://u.pone.rs/tdeFjNRm.zip

>>42352577
"aura" for me - this pony has a field of positivity around her. others enjoy being around her, chat with her. she charges them up with good emotions, calms them down. she might not be a leader of team, but she is a required part of team to make all members work together. she is a diplomat, she is a scientist, she is an orator, she is a designer. she is somepony who encourages other to keep on going
...or alternatively she is a hippy like Treehugger kek
>>42352667
Anon, chill out ffs

>>42352667
Anon, learn to read before going berserk for no reason. He knows what aura means and that it's a word >>42352577

>>42352667
That is not the reason I was confused, you retarded ape.

>>42352684
Kek.
How is it justified by the AI since we already have the adult one? Alternate dimension? Some curse?

>>42352684
Can she interact with her older self?

>>42352737
yes

>>42352854
Well show us it then

>>42352737
>>42352858

>>42352860
Cute.

>>42352730
>>42352860

>>42352730
It's justified by being aislop and turn your brain off

>>42352728
>what kind of name "aura" is supposed to be?
Go back to school, subhuman ESL child.

>>42352982
>>42352728

It's the same lolcow retard from yesterday who was arguing with himself. Learn to ignore.

>>42352994
Again, learn to read, you fucking monkey. Your disgusting parody of the English language is a dead giveaway of your second world nature.

>>42353010
"Goodness golly good sir! I do say that if you do not speak the queen's english, then you should most certainly carry thineself off a bridge. Perhaps the stink of the third world would be cleansed upon reaching your destination."

>>42353308
Who the fuck said anything about third worlders? I'm talking about the ruskie scum.

>>42347716
Requesting ruskie© pony card

>>42350812
and now i'm sometimes getting characters who shouldn't even be in a scene to say stuff causing an error

>>42353403
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Hacker%20known%20as%204chan/March%20Gustysnows.png

>>42353313
Why, you did! With that monkey comment! Then again, cognitive dissonance seems to be your baseline.
>Bridge

>>42350812
fixed an oversized sprite in anon's berry punch character
https://u.pone.rs/ObwnLaSF.zip

>>42353415
Yeah, known limitation for now, it happens when the AI tries to bring in characters other than the ones already in the scene.
I'll work on smoothing that out. The next plan is to allow dynamic character entries, and to change background and music on the fly.
For now, if it happens too much, replace game\prompts\scene_prompt.json with this one:
https://files.catbox.moe/xxh88e.zip
Or modify your own and add in
>post_story_instructions
To only use the characters given.
Then in the menu, go to API Prompts and click on picrel.

>>42350812
>>42353415
also text like 1/2 visits made, evening falls over ponyville, etc inside gens where they're not supposed to be

>>42353477
>The next plan is to allow dynamic character entries, and to change background and music on the fly.
Niiice! Btw are you planning to add an animated sprites support?

>>42353429
>With that monkey comment
>>42353010
>Again, learn to read, you fucking monkey. Your disgusting parody of the English language is a dead giveaway of your second world nature.
>>second world
Learn to read and open a history book, obese mutt. Third and second world are not the same.

>>42353477
would also be nice to be able to skip 1/2 of a day instead of only being able to skip a full day

>>42353527
Why, how dare you speak to me that way, you blundering ninnyhammer! You pribbling, ill-nurtured knave! If I were not a gentleman, I would call you a fopdoodle. Thankfully, I am from what could be called the superior world, so I shall settle for calling you a scullion, you onion-eyed creature.

I made a comment on how Earth horses aren't made from rainbow vomit and I turned Twilight into a racist

>>42353613
>would still rather vomit garbage than open a book and learn what first, second, and third world means
>his education system failed him to the point he doesn't even know it
I weep for you.

>>42353613
Ah ah Prince Blueblood

>>42353663
Mah ejumakation es werking jus fyne. Yer jus jelly.

>>42353527
>Learn to read
But it happened because you are a retard who can't read?
See >>42352707

Nice on-topic conversation.

>>42353728
They didn't delete your previous pic yet, nobody cares.

>>42353718
That he knows or posthumously pretended to know the definition of the word does not change the glaring core issue of his inability to articulate English in a way that doesn't immediately give away his Eastern Bloc origin, and if you fail to see it despite it being highlighted repeatedly you may be stupid too.

>>42353740
Why did you post
>Aura was already a word before you started drinking the JJK brainrot juice. Go open a fucking dictionary.
when he used the word exactly how the definition intends, before your post?
Unless you're just a retard who can't read?

>>42353740
I haven't replied to you since forever, you're arguing with another anon.

Guys, please, at least not here

>>42353737
Then we are free and I can up the level.

>>42353777
See what happened yesterday, Anon.
The guy's a lolcow shitposter who has nothing else in his life and wasn't above samefagging to a pathetic level. He doesn't care.
Wait for the cleanup.

I found Chorbo different than it was before today, so I checked the fingerprint.
Looks like they're hiding it now.

>>42353953
Oh those fuckers.

>>42353777
>when she hears Sugar Belle's screams of ecstasy all the way from SAA

>>42353489
>>42352860
How do you guys get more than one character to appear? In my game so far, Twilight's showing up and talking to me just fine, and Spike is "there" too, but even though I directly addressed him, he's still not speaking, or appearing. Instead it's just the narrator describing what Spike is doing, followed by Twilight interpreting his intent

>>42354420

Currently, when multiple ponies are at a location, you get to choose which ones you want to have in the scene.

>>42354420
What model are you using?
Since the model is still in development, right now only characters present at the start of a scene can appear. So if it’s just Twilight, only Twilight and the narrator can speak outside of your questions.
My guess is that you're in a conversation with Twilight alone, but the model tried to introduce Spike, even though he wasn't listed as a present character, so it's being a smartass and used the narrator to do that.
Later, you’ll have proper two-character conversations and be able to control who you visit on the map, and their sprites will appear.
What you’re seeing now with the narrator shouldn’t cause issues in future scenes, but if it feels weird, just regenerate the response or restart the conversation from a save.
I’ll be adding dynamic character entry later, so for example, if you’re talking with Twilight, you’ll be able to call in other characters and their sprites will show up. But first I want to iron out the bugs in the current system.

>>42354420
What model are you using?
Since the VN is still in development, right now only characters present at the start of a scene can appear. So if it’s just Twilight, only Twilight and the narrator can speak outside of your questions.
My guess is that you're in a conversation with Twilight alone, but the model tried to introduce Spike, even though he wasn't listed as a present character, so it's being a smartass and used the narrator to do that.
Later, you’ll have proper two-character conversations and be able to control who you visit on the map, and their sprites will appear.
What you’re seeing now with the narrator shouldn’t cause issues in future scenes, but if it feels weird, just regenerate the response or restart the conversation from a save.
I’ll be adding dynamic character entry later, so for example, if you’re talking with Twilight, you’ll be able to call in other characters and their sprites will show up. But first I want to iron out the bugs in the current system.

>>42354440
Where is that screen located?
>>42354455
I'm using Gemini 2.5 Flash

>>42354495

You get it when you click on a location with multiple ponies.

>>42354502
How do I get to that map screen? I don't see any keys or buttons for it under help.

>>42354495
It's later in the story.
It goes: Everfree -> talk to Twilight and click "Quit" when you want to end the conversation and continue -> Sleep -> Morning talk -> Go to the map and visit the Mane 6 -> Sleep -> Sandbox mode, where you can visit whoever you want in any order, etc.
For the model, I would recommend 2.5 Pro if you can since it's free too. But if the convo work with Flash, continue with it.

>>42354524
Ah. I guess I'm still in the "Talk To Twilight" stage. I remember she said it was getting dark, so thinking of the narrative, I "went to bed" without using the "Quit Chat" button.
Thanks!

>>42354556
Yeah, unfortunately there can still be some small consistency issues between what was said during AI scenes and the hardcoded dialogue, like the one where she puts you to bed.
But at the start, just think of AI scenes as a way to talk to the current ponies or have fun with them, and then use "Quit" to move the story forward.
If you feel like the AI went too far or too much happened in your first dialogue, don't hesitate to start over now that you know how it works.
For your first game, I do recommend continuing with this path, but later you can use Quick Start from the menu. It offers an alternative intro that puts you into Sandbox mode earlier.

>>42353622
>Turn her racist
>Now I can't get past the first type box of any new game

Woops...

>>42354651
See, there IS a filter for these things. I get the same error ever since I asked Pinkie Pie to blow me (it was supposed to turn into a balloon blowing joke).

>>42352049
I saw some of your art being posted on Derpy.
Funny to see the comments trying to decipher what "MM" means.

ANTHROPIC HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVIDING CLAUDE WITH 500,000 TOKENS OF CONTEXT AS RECENTLY AS 3.7 SONNET
>https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/11139144-faqs-on-using-claude-for-education-at-your-university

>>42354796
Dunno if it's a typo or if they actually have some versions with more context.
Also not sure if it's 'real' context.

>>42354815
they do serve, it is as a real context - as much as scaling allows. for processing multiple files in code repository it works fairly well. Google serves Gemini with 2m context for video files, since we are talking about huge context. and Gemini's limit should be 10m context according to their paper

>>42354791
>"Mysteryman? Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time…a long time."

>>42354859
We will always miss the MysteryMare.

>>42354524
Now that brings me a question: Do your conversations in the "Talk To Twilight" section carry over to the later ones? Or are the later sections brand new prompts?

How many max response length tokens do you guys put for claude 3.7? I've put 400 but its giving me way more than that

>>42354887
Everything carry over. You can do a resume if you're afraid of the context count later in sandbox_mode if you want.

>>42354918
My preset has it at 1024, never got any problems with it

>>42354926
I dont think I have my preset set up with that, I just use the slider on ST. Do you have to write it on the prompt?

>>42354964
That is what I meant, the slider. The preset also saves in which point you have it at

>>42354967 (me)
Correction, the input box in ST. The slider is context size, my bad

>>42354969
gotcha, I will see because I set it at 400 maybe 500 but it goes over that and want to avoid bleedthrough

>>42355022
Try 600. Taking a quick look I see a max of 570 tokens, at least with the preset I'm on.

>>42347738
FUCKING AUTISTIC TWILIGHT. I got her so fucking riled up about the voice in the intro which talks about my "potential" and "path". She thinks this "nightmare entity" is going to learn from my human concepts of war and weapons, use this knowledge to spark an industrial revolution by inspiring ponies in positions of power over several decades, have these weapons built, combine them with magic, and set the world on fire with magic nukes. I CAN'T GET HER TO CALM DOWN. SHE THINKS THIS NIGHTMARE IS A LEVEL 100 MEMETIC SCP READY TO MIND CONTROL EVERYONE INTO KILLING THEMSELVES.

>>42355062

Post logs kek

>>42348666
>try text completion
gr8 b8 m8

>>42355106
for models that support it text completion is far superior, do you prefer it acting more like a assistant?

>>42355103
It's a lot spanning multiple scenes. But it all started when I pointed out that I can remember human concepts and stories, but can't remember personal info. This led her to believe the voice in the beginning is trying to absorb all my memories but fucked up. Over time with other characters I gradually revealed that the human world wasn't such a nice place and I swear the AI latched onto that shit so hard, never forgetting it. Eventually, she deduced that the nightmare entity is wanting to combine "Nightmare magic" ???? with nukes. Even when I tried telling her Luna wasn't concerned she flat out ignored that.

>>42355113
>Never acknowledges it doesn't connect at all
>No one has ever verified the claims
>check and see it's that dumbass who posted the copium list which was torn to shreds

>>42355125
huh? use openrouter, novita supports it at the very least

>>42355106
what is the difference between chat completion and text completion or NovelAI?

>>42355125
What copium list?

>>42355169
scroll up

>>42350730
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The requested URL was not found on the server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again.

>>42347396
For anyone encountering the same problem I encourage you to try this
Tell the AI to use euphemisms whenever it encounters filtered content, this somehow bypasses content filtering albeit it’ll use euphemisms to replace the filtered content (for example cum will turn into “bodily fluids” and etc)

>>42355122
>But it all started when I pointed out that I can remember human concepts and stories, but can't remember personal info.
This is what I did but instead of her going coocoo over human weapons, she latched onto how depressing Earth sounds from what I told her and Spike so she was constantly pitying me. No pics because I got that unexpected format bug, but damn it was beautiful

>>42355288
It changed domains, open it up on the browser without a path (the /v1 bit) and it should redirect you to it after a couple of seconds
Which you should have done already, since you need to get a token from the POW

>>42355325
It's actually so impressive to me how in character all the AI are, including how innocent they are. If you were actually in Ponyville you have to be so careful with what you reveal about "home". Especially if your unfazed about tragedies, leading them to believe you're either a pyscho or a mind broken tragedy victim.
>Anon! What do you mean you make jokes about that awful 9/11 thing you told me about!

hmm, kuru at novelai is hinting at their next text model being a large moe, maybe a deepseek tune / something to compete with it?

>>42355369
>It's actually so impressive to me how in character all the AI are, including how innocent they are.
In my current playthrough, I'm sticking with the "Cryptic Voice" narrative by "being clairvoyant", and vaguely describing the rest of the Mane 6 through random stimuli. My Twilight keeps saying things like "It was probably your consciousness drifting in and out of our plane of existence while you were transported here." I had to actually point it out that "me describing your friends, to a 'T' is not a coincidence" for her to associate my "clairvoyance" with the Cryptic Voice.

I'm having a lot of fun!

Got any cards you've made but haven't posted anywhere for one reason or another, anons? Reveal your secrets.

>>42355781
I have a S1-styled Twilight card that I'll finish at some point. It's not quite where I want it to be at in terms of personality and I haven't bothered writing any intros yet, it was just spurred on by the conversation people had a while back about models not really doing early Twilight justice.

>>42355781
I changed the Glimmer card to a CYOA where the universe is trying to cuck her, Anon is the most gullible, oblivious motherfucker alive, and she has to do everything in her power to stop it.

>>42355781
I wrote a card where I rescue an orphan Noi from foal traffickers as part of a secret vigilante group and bring her home to live with me. It's half daughteru simulator, half spy thriller where we track down rich (god forbid) molesters.
Haven't posted it cause it's such a specific thing and I also never wrote any greetings for it.

>>42355781
Goth anthro AJ coomcard based on that Chrysalisdraws picture that I made for a friend but never polished enough to share here.

>>42355802
I need logs, that sounds hilarious.

>>42355830
I need to find the ST instance where it is, but I will. Might post the card for fun too.
I remember posting a log here where she rolled low against Trixie and Trixie "won."

Anyone got adagio card? also a lorebook too would be nice.

>>42355861
Dunno if it's good but there is one here:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=bats10v2/Adagio%20Dazzle.png

>>42355861
>>42355865
There's also a Dazzlings card which comes with a greeting with just her, and any non thinking model will allow you to interact with just her without bringing the other two in by force.

>>42355861
>>42355870
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Cloptimus/The%20Dazzlings.png

>>42355369
>leading them to believe you're either a pyscho or a mind broken tragedy victim.
I know right? My shit moved Twilight so much that she came to believe I somehow escaped Earth, but it just screwed over my personal memories as a price. I'm so pissed now for not going with that before the game bugged.

>>42355874
I fucking hate the interview description, why can't they just make like the other normal one.

>>42355880
The history of AI Textgen is people insisting that placebo techniques improve outputs.

>>42355884
Writing the description in the kind of tone/fashion you want the card to have is a good idea. AI monkey see, AI monkey do after all.
That said, that card goes overboard by combining like three different styles of descriptions.

Plain text continues to reign supreme after all.

>>42355880
It's a holdover from the ancient texts of the CAI era, where example dialogues were often formatted in a way that they could take full advantage of showing a character's personality, and the interview format often did that effectively given the quirks of that model.

>>42355880
Yeah but the models nowadays are good enough to just roll with it, I've never had many problems in my dozens of ass expansion mind control rps with the card.

Now that's kinky.

>>42356002
Take them for yourself and play out a strict teacher unimpressed with Twilight's academic performance.
Why the third person? I usually go for the first, but maybe it's worse for the AI?

>>42356019
>spoiler
I do both third person past tense and second person present tense depending on my mood. Nothing deep.
I don't think tense and POV really have much impact these days on current models. In the past, some believed third person past tense worked better with older models since most literary works are written like that, but it was more of a feeling than a rule.
So just RP in the POV and tense you like.
It was a funny shitpost, but an anon actually posted an output entirely in future tense last time this came up.

>>42356065
Past tense always felt right to me, even if I do slip to present from time to me

>>42347753
The card is broken.

>>42356002
I read Puddinghead as Neighsay and thought, wow, that's TOO kinky

I would Twilight in her Starswirl costume.

https://files.catbox.moe/0u05ef.zip
After lots of trial and error, I can finally present to you all: Anon
This isn't SG anon, I just used his sprites (he does have some of SG anon's characterization though).

>Why is he so smol?
Thats just how his sprites look in comparison ponies, just pretend he's a manlet or something.
>Why did you make this?
I thought it'd be funny.

>>42356216
Probably should have anchored this, sorry.
>>42347738

>>42356216
>just pretend he's a manlet or something.
He's like me!

>>42356216
...would this count as sizefaggotry?

>>42355651
If you want a DeepSeek fine-tune, you can just subscribe to Chub. It has 60k context.

>>42356216
This might have been the best idea I've ever had, this man is a goldmine.

God I'm so happy, been using Gemini and never been looking back I my inline images again, and now I can tts with it as so I'm gonna try rvc again gonna have fun with maud.

>>42355781
I have a Clocktower Society card that I did on a whim recently, doesn't have any defined greetings and I'm still touching upon it.
I might, keyword being might, end up giving it back to the thread once I'm satisfied with it. Even if I end up lynched by the almost 2k token definition.

Another is of a middle-aged pegasus stallion in a world of alicorn churches, where he was rejected from every single one because of tradition. It is the first one I made, doing the sin of defining who user is in its definition. Unpublished because ew, the defintion needs some work, it describes him none besides what his talent is, and currently it leans too much on using a male alicorn persona.

>>42356473
>Cucktower Society
I will never understand the autistic need to introduce an in universe layer of fiction to your fucked up power play stories when them being fiction is already all the protection you need. It's like if you irl decided to roleplay the part where you decide to roleplay a BDSM scene with your partner. It's needlessly redundant and only serves to harm the potential enjoyment of it.

>>42356473
I don't think 2K is that extravagant in some cases.

What does Non-recursable do and should I turn it on

>>42356601
For lorebooks:
>Non-recursable (will not be activated by another)
>Prevent further recursion (will not activate others)
Let's say you create an OC named Saffron Sprout and make an entry:
>Saffron Sprout is friends with Amber Oats
If you have an Amber Oats entry, it will be activated when Saffron Sprout is triggered.
You can end up with long chains like this depending on how your lorebooks are built.
So the options above can help if you run into issues or just don't want those chains.

https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/worldinfo/

I think we need more Luna cards.

>>42355781
Two characters - and two personas to go along with them - from an old tf green.

The AI gets the mane and coat colors wrong after I clearly stated them in the lorebook
What do?

>>42356690
Check inside the SillyTavern console to make sure your entry was actually sent correctly, or use this extension:
https://github.com/LenAnderson/SillyTavern-WorldInfoInfo

I should make a group chat for all the Twilights /chag/ has made. I'll imply that it was suddenly sprung on them, and that they've been pulled in from their home dimensions. Maybe Celestia can officiate it in some way without being told anything too

>>42356706
Can it be that it tries to introduce a character to the scene but cannot get the lorebook right because there were no keywords triggered?

>>42356710
Twilight Royale.

>>42356711
Yes, if no keywords are triggered, then the entry won't activate.
Also, if the AI is the one to use a keyword, the entry won't activate during that same output, since the AI can't change its response once it's started generating. Instead, the entry will be activated immediately after that message.
For example, if you have:
>Keyword: Amber Oats
>Entry: Amber Oats has an amber mane
If you mention Amber Oats yourself, the entry is triggered and the AI will know, going forward, as long as context is preserved, that her mane is amber.
But if the name hasn't come up yet and the AI is the one to introduce Amber Oats, the entry will only trigger after that message. So the AI might write something like:
>A mare with a black mane appeared. It was Amber Oats.
Because the detail about her amber mane only gets added to context after that output.

is 03-25 still the best Gemini pro model for RP?

how about for work, which one? general work not just coding.(i know its a big vague but still)

>>42356739
That's really fucking unfortunate. So I suppose there is no way for me to get to know the characters and I simply have to write a scenario in which I at least know what everyone is called so I can trigger the keywords.

>>42356740
Pretty sure 03-25 is dead. So for both, the best version is the latest 2.5 Pro.
>>42356748
You can put some very basic info in your card's description so the AI knows their name and when to reference them.
Then go full autist in the lorebook with more detailed information.

>>42355781
>for one reason or another
I have plenty and it's just mane slop central. Look at the state of the thread, the review event cards didn't even get a fraction of posts even before the Ai VN was out and its been completely forgotten about since. This general is done, the VN will suck all attention like thingpone killed the strange waifu threads

>>42356748
You can also set the entry to activate every time/once every few times. Check the lorebook settings in ST, what you're looking for is the green circle, switch it to blue and then mess around with the activation prefs at the bottom.

>>42356770
>03-25 is dead
hm? so does ST and the console are being untrue? says gemini-2.5-pro-preview-03-25

or maybe you mean in a specific source. im using API on a proxy for what its worth not google API.

>>42356714
How long before one of them snaps? Will there be Celestia vs Daybreaker powerscaling arguments?

>>42356817
Instructions unclear. Just fuck my shit up, senpai.

>>42356876
anon... is that a single lorebook entry?

>>42356913
No, it's the card itself after I've put all the lorebook entries directly inside of it. Happened before I saw the post telling me to switch the colors.

>>42347753

GPT 4.5 is now dead on API.
It wasn't a bad model, just way too expensive (and a bit too in love with adverbs).
>>42356842
I believe it's being redirected but not 100% sure.

>>42355781
I have some Yu-Gi-Oh cards and characters from other franchises Ive made but I'm unhappy with the lack of different intros or the intros themselves. If it was just descriptions I'd be chill but good intros are always my struggle, and nowadays it feels like cards have to have a couple before you can even consider tossing em out there.

>>42354791
The most kek part is that it literally is a mystery

>>42357133
Still getting tributes after all this time
What a legend
Hope he adapted well and avoided all the proxy holder lawsuits

42357133
Your new name blows meat milkshakes at polite society tell them your original name.
He's singing Stand Proud and you can't stop it you can only work out to it.
In the fields with a shovel.
You dig them holes real good boys you hear?

>>42357133
>Really cool art for silly shitpost
Nice, thanks anon.

>>42357133
Can we get some anthro Chrissy for those of us lovemaking with bipedal AI mares?

>>42350812
how the hell have people been getting past this shit? the furthest i could get was pinkie pie until reloading stopped helping delay it from happening.

>>42357208
What are you using as a source?

>>42357214
would that be gemini 2.5?

>>42357236
If you're using free Gemini Pro with an API key from AI Studio, there's a rate limit on your key per day (and also per minute, you can hit it by sending too much at once).
So if it was working earlier and now you're always getting that message, it's probably the rate limit.
Best solution is to read this:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42306898/#42308113
With a single Google account, you can create multiple projects and API keys.
If the keys are in different projects, they don’t share the same rate limits.
So once one hits its limit, you can just switch to another. They reset the next day.
It's rarer, but sometimes they can get overloaded too and some outputs won't work.

>>42357198
This is a horse pussy board, anon

>>42357148
>Hope he adapted well and avoided all the proxy holder lawsuits
Hope so too. I want my mystery back. >>42357157
It supposed to be a quick sketch but I got carried away xD

they fucked with chorbo again. it writes way less now

>>42357416
And we can't check anymore >>42353953

>>42357307
Kimi? I noticed it struggling with dropping spacing very often, exactly like those three single-spaced lines in the middle.

I think I prefer the VN format to the regular Tavern at this point. The latter just tends to spit out pages of text right into my face, I cannot hold a conversation with anyone like this.

>>42357268
>he doesn't put horse genitals and hooves on his anthro
No wonder you hate it so much.

>>42357508
Gemini 2.5 pro.

>>42357514
There was a caimode in a jailbreak specifically that made as short messages as the vn does

>>42357519
Putting those things on anthro would be like glueing a couple of diamonds onto an outhouse.

>>42357307
Trust the love mare, anon. You bought enough to share so you MUST be yearning for love.

>>42357566
I'm just a fat fuck?

>>42357585
Fat fucks deserve love too.

>>42357532
Tell that to the delightful bug artist who draws anthro.

>>42357597
Ok.
Delightful bug artist: anthro a shit and you should stop drawing it.

How good is gemini 2.5 when talking about ponies?
I have been using it with a new JB and this has to be the first time I get show accurate responses for background characters mane colors and consistent eye colors.

>>42357635
Still not on the same level as GPT or Claude IMO, but not bad at all, and way better than some models we used to have in the past.
Still has some issues. For example, I remember it hallucinating when I asked Twilight about Trixie's "confrontation" with the Ursa Minor, etc.

>>42357648
This time when I brought the ursa minor incident to trixie it replied pretty close to the show's events.
also got this:
---
>A full minute passed in comfortable, rocky silence. Then, without turning her head, the mare next to you spoke. Her voice was as flat and monotone as the stone she was admiring.
"That rock is sedimentary."
>A beat of silence.
"Your disguise,"
>she continued, finally turning her head with glacial slowness to look at the paper bag on your head
"is rudimentary."
>Her pale, emotionless eyes met the eye-holes you'd cut in the bag.
"Hello, Anon."
---
and for Maud it felt accurate but still has trouble balancing the characters dialogues, twilight talks like a nerd or robot and pinkie has too much energy to the level of saying random stuff but I think its decent so far.

>>42357686
>"That rock is sedimentary."
>>A beat of silence.
>"Your disguise,"
>>she continued, finally turning her head with glacial slowness to look at the paper bag on your head
>"is rudimentary."
Maud has bars?

>>>/vg/531241428
>I like chag but you guys don't have the writefag tism in you.
>I've seen AI genned bots on the "highlighted bots" section.
Is this true?

>>42357699
>generals war
Kek. Come on, man.
The highlighted bots are chosen at random, so yeah, sometimes there'll be bots with AI-generated greetings in them. That was even pointed out with a few of the previous ones.

>>42357699
Highlighted bots are completely randomly chosen out of all the pony related ones we have, so probably. The highlight doesn't mean they're good, it's just an attempt to give lesser known ones a chance at attention so everyone isn't just RPing with the same dozen or so main and secondary characters forever.

>>42357686
I'm happy Gemini is free and I hope it will stay like this a long while.

>>42357750
there was a brief moment when free Gemini Pro 2-5 was temp unavailable for maybe 20 days? but they did promise that the free plan will be back and they kept their words. unsure why it was necessary but there was no negative changes after free Gemini was back. just saying, they may change things one day

>>>/vg/531243821
Is it true /mlp/'s currently destroying /vg/ with their VN while /vg/ can't even put together a simple text adventure?

>>42357699
we have a highlighted bots section???

>>42357783
in anchor, Anon >>42347753

>>42357787
oh. I thought they meant like in the neocities repository

>>42357804
mlpchag hostie could implement that by doing some basic current-date hashing and using that to seed the random selection of a bot (this would then change the selection whenever he updates the website, but it should be fine)

>>42357699
People with the writing tism will write actual fanfics.

Perhaps I should stop using these bots to plap the everloving shit out of pinkie but by god I'm just a mortal man with desires and weakness in my heart.

>>42357851
You can do all that with her instead.

>>42357860
>that pic
Not the boops! Everything but the boops!

>>42357851
>>42357860
Do all of it obviously, the lovemaking must never be stopped

My Claude 3.7 prompt was working good yesterday but today I got filtered. Anybody has the same issue?

I'm getting pretty bored of Deepseek v3 and mares instantly cumming the second they are touched.

What's the new hotness these days? Anything else to try out? Or some preset that doesn't suck for V3?

Is scuffed /chag/ still available? Opus5 just died.

Purplesmart is so stupidly cute like this

I require aid, the VN keeps spouting this message at me, even after I deleted and re-downloaded it.

>>42358360
Send me the full error >>42347738, I will look when I can.

>>42358366
That unfortunately pretty much is the full error.

>>42358378
This means the API you're using is in fact sending a response when prompted but it's empty.
So the thread doesn't turn into tech support just between the two of us, can you either:
1) Send me a mail and let me know what you're using as a source, it could be an issue on their end or my code not supporting it.
2) Give it a quick try with something we know works and is supported, like the official Gemini API key (which is free):
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42306898/#42308113
If 2) works, then it's likely not an issue on your end, and it's something related to the other source.

>>42358412
But overall, I need to improve the error handling for the API so it shows more clearly what went wrong.
I'll work on that for the next update, probably alongside a better UI/display to edit the different prompts too.

>>42358378
i'm guessing this is the scuffed method for Claude that sometimes gives blank responses and you need to swipe repeatedly?

>>42358416
>>42358412
Thank you for the help but yeah I think it's definitely an API thing because after this I encountered an extreme bug where it tried to type the entire API page which caused it to crash.

For future reference the API's I was using were:
Merkava
Skillissue
Targon

Although only merkava caused that extreme hyper bug.

>>42358422
What model with Merkava so I can try to replicate?

>>42358424
deepseek chat

You guys aren't seriously using the "merkava" with the unknown build are you?

>>42358422
Thanks, I'm pretty sure it's a problem with how Deepseek is handled by the game. I know it can work with OR, but they do something to it to better handle OAI support/format. I'll look into improving support for other sources.

>>42358432
At worst, it's potentially logging my prompts, which I don't give a fuck about.

>>42358436
I find it strange because I was using it with deepseek yesterday and it was working flawlessly and I have no idea why that changed

AND NOW IT'S WORKING A-OKAY.
ALRIGHT
FUCK LOGIC I GUESS

>>42358330
Too sad! Huge thank you to anon who's was hosting it! Albeit i've sent like 100 prompts at most there, but felt every mischievous spark, when night were still young, with a mix of curiosity and excitement...(even though it's fingerprint been calling me N word for some reason)

>>42358330
Did I missed something? What's scuffed chag?

>>42358586
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42272280/#42277683

>>42358591
Oh, thanks, I should try to mail him too

>>42357427
>>42353953
actually such scum.
every day it seems like OAI and Anthropic race to be the most stereotypical evil copro possible. like they have more people working on fucking the company up than actually making products. death by a thousand needles.

fuck that skellenigga

>>42358736
>>42353953
ill give the overly optimistic and maybe foolish viewpoint.
that hopefully this is just part of the high and low testing cycle where they try to maximize quality while also maximizing optimization. so in a realistic scene, seeing how cheap they can make the model while it still acts the same.
and so now they are in the cheap shit testing phase before the usual quality testing phase.

though there is no excuse to hiding the fingerprint really.

>>42358738
is this actually the only proxy still remaining? that and the super sketchy new merkava.
fucking dire drought times.

>>42358742
We've had far worse desu
Sometime between claude 3 and 3.5 we had nothing but the paypig proxies

Also it just doesn't work for me
Maybe I'm too drunk to see what's wrong
Pls halp

>>42358752
First, you need to beat the skeleton for the token, of course.
Second, you need to use the URLs under "endpoints" depending on the model you want.
>openai/v1
for GPT, for instance.

Thanks for the Japanese lesson, I guess?

>>42358754
computer says no :(((((
tried restarting ST but it seem like it's just fucked

>>42358763
Can't test because I'm a skillet, but it should look like this:
https://litter.catbox.moe/yc1g6u0zv2t96plq.png
If you have that and it says "unauthorized," then there's probably an issue with the token you got.

>>42358741
>daily reminder they just shamelessly lied about releasing march chorbo as a snapshot with zero consequences.

>>42358760
>(Translator's note: Shibori means press)

>>42358330
Fixed

>>42358855
fixed as in Opus5 fixed and working?
or did that one scuffed source got fixed out?

all my sources are dying...

>>42358859
NTA but Opus5 is working. Just wait a bit on the page.

did that one chinese proxy come back online?
(where you need to enter on site with an email and they had their own discord server)
or are they still closed from new logins?

>>42358289
Kimi.

>>42359167
rarity is such a fucking bitch, all of my niggas hate rarity

>>42358862
Checked and open.
https://ar26710 online/

>>42358862
it's open but I have no idea how to make the model speak english. it seems really scuffed.

>>42359360
It's scuffed as fuck but there is one Claude that sort of work. The one with (v) before.

>>42359167
>Last line
kek

Can we all boycott AI tomorrow? Local is okay but in a sign of solidarity with the rest of the boycott we should probably not use corporate AI for the time being

>>42359453
*can we all join the boycott

>>42359453
what boycott

>>42359453
Is this bait? What the fuck do you think this thread uses to get these responses?

>>42359453

>>42359500
Only the legal methods, officer.

Is kimi super slow for anyone else?

>>42359603
There are about 8-9 suppliers for it. So you'll have to be more specific.

>>42359606
Using novita. What are other anons using?

>>42359609
I think some use the direct API.
There's also OpenRouter, which has 2 free providers:
https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2:free
And 6 paid ones:
https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2

Last time I checked this place everyone was trying to kill sans to get a proxy key. Did anything cool happen?

>>42359635
You can still kill Sans to get a proxy key.
There's a no-killing Sans proxy: >>42347785
Gemini 2.5 Pro is back to being free through a legitimate method.
A new Chinese model dropped: >>42359618
And the AI VN was released: >>42347738

>>42347738
Roseluck for the VN.
https://u.pone.rs/pfJmksUO.zip

>>42347738
We need milky.

I don't think a script is possible, and it would be scuffed as hell, but Amazon released this:
https://kiro.dev/
Sonnet 4.0 is free on it during beta. You won’t be able to do RP with it, but if you need it for something else, it could be useful.

>>42358754
>Second, you need to use the URLs under "endpoints" depending on the model you want.
>>openai/v1
/api/v1 works as a single universal endpoint with all models if you don't need any provider specific stuff

>>42356816
Thingpone did not kill SWT, people just stopped making content and you are in denial.

>>42359807
Thanks.

Kinda missed the whole Kimi thing, how is it compared to DeepSeek? What presets do you use with it?

>>42360530
Not an expert on the model but there was one posted here >>42350514

Does Guilty Resist still have Kimi or should I switch to something else?

>>42359895
I'm sorry, but Milky lives and delivers in Trottingham. Unless she's visiting BonBon I guess

>>42358458
>b-but it could be permanent
based yandere twilight

I should see if other AIs are better than ChatGPT 4o at writing stories where Celestia proposes to Twilight, impregnates her, then impregnates her entire harem consisting of the Mane 6 and Luna.

>>42350730
still getting too many requests
feels bad

>>42360951
She just really likes you, Nonny...

>>42361046
Im just getting totally blank responses, was wondering if it was just me but I guess not.

>>42351633
>>42351640
>>42361046
>>42361131
Fixed, sorry

>>42351633
What did you think would happen when they gave everyone free Pro with higher RPD?

>>42361278
based!

>>42361278
Just sent a prompt and expected to see the too many request dance, got surprised that it just went through
Thanks, anon!

>>42361278
Thank you, king

What kind of soap opera bullshit are these technicolour horses reading?!

>I must have it.

>opus5
? time traveler?

>>42362009
Kek

>>42362048
some anons say its a finetuned deepseek model.

>>42362009
Model?

>>42362451
>Gemini 2.5 Pro
The VN gets some goodies every now and then. Like this one where I 'got' Pinkie and Lyra. Together. Twilight then proceeded to lose her mind. She could smell it on me.

>>42362506
Whoops, forgot the image.

>>42360961
I'd test SillyTavern with something like Gemini or even Deepseek to start.
The official GPT interface can be a bit limited, so I wouldn't be surprised if you end up preferring it.

>>42361278
Index and token page kinda scares me. No logging?

>>42362632
would you believe a anonymous message that said "no"?

>>42362684
Only if a cute pony image is attached.

So sad Kimi is bad at characters keeping secrets or not knowing things.

>>42362882
Only Gemini is somewhat decent at this for some reasons.

>>42362923
Old Claude / GPT used to be okay at it, I remember.

Kimi appears to have a peculiar repetition issue where instead of repeating things the way models usually do, that being saying similar stuff over and over and repeating situations, it will sometimes it'll detect a similar situation and then copy an earlier sentence verbatim even when it doesn't make sense. So for example I had a character masturbating on her bed, and I was suddenly hit with a line about her chair creaking because it was copying an earlier scene where she was masturbating on her chair instead.

>>42350730
I'm being an absolute tard, can connect to gp4 but when trying to use Claude I'm getting a "the requested model doesn't exist or do you have no access to it" could it be that the model names are different than the listed?
>how could you not kn-
Been out for a while, came every now and then but wanted to see if things could get stable...
>are you usin-
On mobile, so I'm a risufag

>>42363111
Here's the list of models and their exact names.
Keep in mind that even though it's great to have access and some models are good, it's still kind of a joke/troll proxy, some models aren't what they claim to be or are a bit scuffed.
Opus 4 and 5, for example, aren’t actually Opus 4 and 5. "Latest" is also more censored than the real latest. Claude 3.7 does seem to be Claude.
I have a guess about what model is behind Opus 5 (it's not a Deepseek finetune), but I need to test more to be sure.

>>42363111
Here's the list of models and their exact names.
Keep in mind that even though it's great to have access and some models are good, it's still kind of a joke/troll proxy, some models aren't what they claim to be or are a bit scuffed.
Opus 4 and 5, for example, aren’t actually Opus 4 and 5. Latest is also more censored than the real latest. Claude 3.7 does seem to be Claude.
I have a guess about what model is behind Opus 5 (it's not a Deepseek finetune), but I need to test more to be sure.

>>42362882
>>42362923
>>42362942
No current model can do this reliably. I had every model blurting out my name before introducing myself for example, including Gemini. Pink elephant is absolutely real - if you want something to not be regurgitated you must keep this out of your context (using the lorebook, for example).

>>42363163
>No current model
Older ones could

op needs to wake up

>>42359939
it's possible

>>42363210
Nice. Scuffed?

>>42363215
doesn't seem to support prefills unfortunately
mostly seems unscuffed apart from that though

>>42363185
Just got here. Give me 5 minutes.

>>42363227
They are still useful but I find prefills to be less powerful with Sonnet and Opus 4.

New bread.
>>42363249
>>42363249
>>42363249

>>42363184
Nope, they had even bigger problems with it