Ok I'm only in season 6 right now but
How have ponies not been conquered

>>42377537 (OP)
Celestia controls the sun

>>42377537 (OP)
they should have made dragons invincible to magic. no fucking way I believe that cute ponies can just defeat them with raw power alone.

>>42377543
so what, is she going to crash the sun into them?

>>42377537 (OP)
>How have ponies not been conquered
Because ponies have a secret weapon.

>>42377581
How don't the ursa majors starve to death and go extinct?

>>42377586
I assume they must be feeding on some cosmic energies or magic or something. And they probably are quite rare at that.

>>42377571
>Sun argument
It's funny how often this is brought up when you realize it's even more of a useless MAD weapon than atomic bombs are.

>>42377537 (OP)
Ponies were conquered by nu-staff.

>>42377537 (OP)
With the power of friendship of course

>>42377537 (OP)
Torch is gigantic and very unusual for his people

>>42377537 (OP)
>im only on season 6
i doubt it, twilight and friends already dealt with a dragon and they were just random ponies

>>42377537 (OP)
The power of friendship and giant magical lasers

>>42377537 (OP)
>send a group of ponies to the dragonlands
>make them start arguing and being racist
>windigos show up
It's that simple

>>42377543
Celestia only controls the sun in Equestria, the rest of the planet the sun raises on it's own. And she can probably only raise it, not use it in any other way for attack or beginning, the dragons aren't worried about the sun not raising in their lands if they attack.
I know in the comics Luna brings the moon closer to them so they can walk up a rope onto it.

But that's why no one else in this world cares about the ponies. They're not raising the sun for EVERYONE. The opening of the show says that they raised the sun and moon maintaining balance for their kingdom and their subjects. Everything outside of Equestria moves on its own. The clouds move, the plants grow, the animals care for themselves the weather and seasons happen on their own, naturally the sun and moon would be included, the ponies control all these things in Equestria only. Equestria is frozen in time, which I think Lauren wanted to connect that idea to Discord's original defeat being what caused Equestria to freeze in time. But in Season 2 the Heartswarming eve episode seems to suggest the ponies have always controlled the seasons and weather even before Equestria, which doesn't make sense but either that's a mistake and Lauren didn't help with that episode, or maybe the world doesn't move on its own it's just the Everfree forest. But Applejack and the others at different times say the Everfree forest is not like Equestria because everything moves on its own. If that was strange to the whole world then why not just say the Everfree forest is not normal or not like the rest of the world. And keeping in mind the Everfree forest was a giant border land originally in season 1-3, r not some little forest contained within Equestria that they decided later.

But I don't know how it would work exactly, the moon and sun are defiantly not like they are in our world. The moon seems to be something you can fly to and even live on, Equestria is on a round planet but the celestial bodies are much closer to the ground and much smaller like flat earth theories have.

>>42377537 (OP)
Alicorns hold back all the time Anon, Opaline went to fight them in her quest for power post-FIM and presumably wiped them out, singlehandedly. Lore accurate pony magic is no joke.

>>42377571
>so what, is she going to crash the sun into them?
I have her peeling layers off of the sun and just raining them down on their heads
She can't do that if they attack Manehattan though which is why I brought in Superman
>>42378232
>Celestia only controls the sun in Equestria, the rest of the planet the sun raises on it's own.
That's an interesting, quasi-dimensional idea. But making something like that actually make sense in a consistent, three-dimensional sense is a challenge

>>42377537 (OP)
dragons are mostly isolationist.

>>42378523
It doesn't make sense, but there's not much else that can be said, it also doesn't make sense that Equestria is frozen in time but elsewhere is not. If storm clouds form over the ocean or over the Everfree forest, what prevents them from travelling to Equestria.
I really just wish we knew more about this. I don't really know if Lauren thought about it. I don't know if it's suppose to be a playing with toys reference, by which I mean, Equestria is suppose to be a giant toy playset where nothing moves on its own. The earliest MLP stuff Ponyland is a very tiny area with only about 20 ponies total, the only buildings are the castle toy playset or the house toy playset.
I refuse to watch much of other MLP stuff so I don't know if Ponyland being stuck in place where leaves don't even fall without the ponies making them fall is something Lauren came up with or took from somewhere else.
But that's the whole, that's the entire thing about FiM season 1. In terms of the world. The constant focus is on Equestria doesn't move at all, and the Everfree forest does. And Equestria was very small in the way it was in the old MLP stuff. Cloudsdale makes the weather for the whole of Equestria.

Of course, here's the thought process, Lauren could have just decided that the ponies control everything in Equestria, they have to take care of the animals and physically change the seasons, which proves that Equestria is weird and the rest of the world is normal, because if Equestria was normal and everything is like that then why change anything where did the idea of season changes come from. But then Lauren I guess decided the sun and moon also need to be moved by the ponies, and she probably didn't think much about the rest of the world and how that doesn't really work. If it is over the whole planet then, everywhere on this fantasy planet things move naturally, aside from Equestria where ponies have to move things, but then for some reason the sun and moon apply to the whole world.

>>42377537 (OP)
Dragons are low IQ, the smartest of their bunch is the equivalent of a teen girl.
They don't care to conquer, they are simple and greedy creatures.
Only a few of them are actually big and intimidating, most of them are small or medium sized.
The ponies vastly outnumber them, have an actual army, have superior technology and magic, etc.

The answer is rather simple. Torch once loved Celestia when he was younger.

>>42377590
They're like c'tann
They feed off of cosmic radiation and various gases in the atmosphere

>>42378689
This reminds me of something from this world...

>>42378618
Humanity (ancient precursor species that created ponies for companionship during the last great golden age in the twilight of our civilization) did something that rewrote/irreparably distorted the laws of nature in order to allow magic to exist. After the cataclysm humanity dwindles and their ineffable and godlike technology stops working, forcing ponies to adapt and assume command over the broken world their creators left them.

>>42377537 (OP)
The magic of friendship.
No, seriously, they spell it out in the show.
Ponies are the only intelligent species in Equestria that are sociable and can work together for a common cause. All of the other species are barbaric individualists to one degree or another, and without the ability to cooperate amongst themselves, organized ponies can steamroller them easily.

When you get to Season 8 and "Twilight's friendship school", it becomes obvious. Friendship is literally considered a military secret, which is why Chairman Neighsay is dead-set against Twilight sharing it with non-ponies.

>>42377537 (OP)
it is revealed the very next season that torch, and his wife(?), were mogged by a single pegasus with a shield
also this >>42378567

>>42377537 (OP)
pony farts are too powerful

>>42377537 (OP)
The big dragons don't give a shit and all live on their own collecting their horde so they can get bigger. Torch was basically a babysitter to look after the eggs and make sure the bratty teens didn't sperge out.

>>42378232
HWE contradicts this. If the sun can move on it's own, the pegasi and earth ponies would have told the unicorns to screw themselves. The pre-HWE balance of power only works if the entire planetary ecology is completely fucked without magic keeping things going.

>>42380334
But what about when smaller dragons steal their weapons and usurp power? And how come the dragon lord brought his weapon to a dinner table? Isn’t that in poor taste?

>>42377537 (OP)
given their tradition theyve had zero reason past celestia's friendship crusade to interact with any species outside their lands
even then pony intervention was a forced factor
dragons as a nation have no reason to leave their homeland

>>42380338
>Isn’t that in poor taste?
thats the whole point of the dragon hearthswarming story
that only weak idiots like that dragonlord make it easy for their power and status to be stolen from them

>>42377537 (OP)
twilight : spike :: celestia : torch
does that answer your question