Previous thread: >>42371380

>What is Open Pony?
A model for Second Life that beats all other 3D pony models. Info here:
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2022/05/a-showcase-of-amazing-and-completely.html

>Just give me a MARE
Idiotproof starter guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZkMo8NDwuNG8skCJI2gDbWl9LYm4Q_tN/view
A noob's guide for other noobs: https://ponepaste.org/7410
Braindead simple Anonmare guide: https://smutty.mare.stream/mlajjqelswj.png
https://smutty.mare.stream/mjmqtlwwntf.mp4

>Join the /mlp/ SL group
secondlife:///app/group/da37f318-781a-fd7e-e8e9-1a5bbf2ebc34/about

>Where is the /mlp/ hangout?
Baltimare, open-access: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Baltimare/109/160/36
Cloudsdale, invite-only: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Cloudsdale/39/57/1581

>View Baltimare's live map, Bulletin and Leaderboard
https://baltimare.org/
https://baltimare.org/bulletin/
https://baltimare.hotmilk.space/

>After that, visit one of the many other Second Life pony hangouts:
Luna's Empire / H-Mart Tower (Free goodies in the gift shop): http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Las%20Pegasus/137/71/12
Ponyville shop: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Ponyville/234/32/1503

>Content creation resources:
https://ponepaste.org/8725

>List of known Open Pony Marketplace Vendors
https://ponepaste.org/10299

>Baltimare design/planning channels:
https://app.element.io/#/room/#baltimare:pony.cx

>Live Baltimare stream
https://picarto.tv/BalTV
https://picarto.tv/BalTV2

ALIVE POPEN

OPEN

sorry, was sleeping
heres the full size
https://files.ponut.space/JUeFuMjS.png

>>42381402 (OP)
for a moment I really thought we were free

>>42381402 (OP)
HOLY COLLAGE
>>42381405
POPEN

>>42381402 (OP)
Noooooooooooooooo I hate you OP

>>42381420
This... It was so close

>>42381402 (OP)
Unknown is really enjoying that swan (based)

>popens are interested in one thing and it's fucking disgusting

>>42381420
>>42381444
so long as I am alive, theres cute popen photos, I have access to a photo editor, and an active /mlp/ SL hangout exists I will ensure there is a thread op

best summer outfit for a mare? any tips?

>Welcome to Baltimare. And now get the fuck out

>>42381631
Being naked. I mean, imagine the heat. You'll feel a lot cooler wearing nothing at all.

>>42381609
So all of these conditions must be true, right? Ok thanks that gives me a starting point

>>42381631
Do the Fluffuls

lumi when oat bag empty
https://files.catbox.moe/hkwhj3.mp4

>>42381645
I take baths with my popens, I'm naked with my popens. I sexo in front of my popens. I never be ashamed of sexo. My fren be sleeping I be making love in the fluffpile. That's me brah. That's how I get down around popens, I try to keep they purity. I don't want to take their purity away by covering myself up, then they're gonna be ashamed and cover themselves up and I'm pure at heart so you can think in your mind if I let a tourist here I'm gonna have to change the way I am so that the tourist can be comfortable around me? NO! I'm gonna be naked as fuck in front of the tourists. A popen comes up and clicks my bits. I let them click on my bits. I let that happen.

>>42381660
Based Copper

I got so fed up with the UV and topology of my mane I remade it myself completely out of scratch

>>42378619
>>42378707
>>42378874
>>42378882
>>42379038
The Matrix is working fine. Postgresql uses 100% of my cpu because of all the requests and there's literally nothing that can be done except migrating the database to a different server or terminating accounts with high usage.

You don't see any responses because there were no responses. Your appeal is denied, and you can open matrix to verify.

>>42379038
Rooms cannot be down in matrix if at least one user is in them. That's not how it works.

>>42381660
https://files.catbox.moe/kfb1po.mp3

>>42381757
wtf how can an account max out your CPU usage, what are they even doing
maybe terminating those isn't a bad idea then

ive noticed the matrix works but is super slow to load sometimes, element will sometimes periodically say "you've lost connection to the server", probably yeah the cpu at 100% doesn't help

>>42381750
>I remade it myself completely out of scratch
My results are usually better when I have to redo shit even when I loudly curse and grunt all the way through

>>42381757
Is there actually any new messages in the moderation reports channel? I cannot see >>42354349 for example.

>>42381757
>The Matrix is working fine.
No, it fucking isn't. I haven't seen a new moderation report since June 25th, despite >>42354349 clearly showing that there was one.

For a sec I thought Buggo leveled up

>>42381797
I see reports up to July 14th. The problem is on your end, anon.
Although, what's your account's homeserver? I.e. does your full account name is gonna be something like "<username@matrix.horse>" or "<username@pony.cx>" or @matrix.org etc. etc., what's the URL there?
t. not rara but knowing this might help him, because maybe it's a problem with the server your account is on

>>42381681
This seems like a Myrtle post.

>>42381832
I wish Myrtle would come up to me and stare at me intensely while saying nothing while I try booping but don't get booped back, just more staring. This is my fetish btw.

>>42381824
My full account name ends with ":matrix.org"
All I did was follow the link on the OP for the Matrix server, if that doesn't work then the link needs to be replaced.

>>42381847
Ah I think a bunch of homeservers block morg due to spam issues, since it's the default server.
>All I did was follow the link on the OP for the Matrix server
That link goes to element.io, which is the official hosted element of the web app, and generally the most reliable one to use.
What needs to be added is probably a guide to say "don't use the default server when creating an account, it sucks".

>>42381855
NTA but what do I use then if not matrix.org?
matrix.horse is missing channels and pony.cx is incredibly slow and isn't connecting.

>>42381776
Same thing that killed matrix.horse the first time. The server had to be completely rebuilt from scratch. Synapse is an awful Homeserver that, once you join a channel on another HS that is somewhat bigger with a couple thousand people, causes events to completely flood your database and annihilate it.
>>42381878
There is no such thing as "missing channels". You can always join channels on other homeservers. As long as those homeservers are responding, that is.

New last names dropped but they all kinda suck.
I guess Spotton can be Spotton Goat now

>>42381983
derpy.bubbles
but yeah a bit of a stretch

>muh names
Where's the fag that grabbed Princess.Celestia and then just completely ceased to exist? It's probably the most perfect pony name we'd ever get and after the initial meme he only ever logged in like once or twice more and now it's just gone.

>>42381994
Probably a soff alt or something

>>42381994
pretty sure it was another one of soft's two dozen alts. even posted about maybe making it the main but then didn't

>>42381994
>>42382001
Alt of one of the anons, but not soff. The owner is still around

Under normal circumstances, why would you even change your name?
I did once and almost no one talked to me anymore suddenly.

>>42382001
>>42382005
>>42382007
I'm sure it was an alt but it's just unfortunate to nab the account and then park it forever.

Soff or not I hope whoever it is can larp as a princess more often, now that the account exists.

>>42381979
Ok sure. If I paste the link to the moderation reports channel then it just says #baltimare:pony.cx does not exist. What am I doing wrong?

>>42382030
The issue is that pony.cx doesn't work. So matrix.horse can never establish the initial connection to that channel.
There is a chance that someone else published the channel under their homeserver and you can join via that, but I don't think anyone did so/rara allowed that

>>42382021
True.
I wouldn't mind Celestia showing up to events or just showing up to create some special situation.
Just showing up a couple times a year to do something retarded that is also memorable would suffice

>>42382037
So why does it work for some and not for others?

>>42382041
>Celestia inaugurating the new outhouses in Baltimare

>>42382045
Because they are already in the channel/their homeserver is already connected to pony.cx and has the channel cached or there is moments where pony.cx actually decides to function for a few minutes.
Remember, matrix.horse was rebuilt from scratch a week ago

>>42382041
I'll make a Celestia and then the universe will conspire against me to bring Princess.Celestia back. It's fool proof.

>>42382017
Whenever I see a message in the group I get the IM sound and for a brief moment I'm happy thinking somepopen has IMd me but then it'd immediatly dashed.

>>42382129
fuck I accidentally replied to post, meant to just be a loose post. Well well, I guess you got a free (you)

>>42382129
Pretty sure you can define a different sound for group messages so you can keep them apart better

>>42381983
Parallel Pop Bubbles

>>42382052
So, what does one need to do to be able to see the Matrix properly with all its messages?

>>42382251
kek

>>42381637
wtf

>>42382270

Summer beach party when?

>>42382172
Nuxi called me a "bigger" the other day

>>42382030
message rara on matrix

That bird-chirping dee-dee-deedee-dududu sound that plays sometimes makes me seethe anytime it plays

>>42382505
Fucking lmao

>>42382567
Birds are very important though. Even the crunchy 8bit ones.

>>42382037
Stop pretending to think you know how it works.

>>42382030
>>42382566
when I connect via matrix.horse I cannot connect to anything, let alone message other users
lmao what a ridiculous system

>>42381983
>Spotton Goat
You imply I have money to do such a thing.

I loaf watching popen couples

>>42382943
Homeservers that are not pony.cx work.

>>42383128
Ok, so can you explain me what I have to do to see the messages on the Matrix properly?

Pinkie Pie Friday Party.
Please for the love of god.

>>42383134
make a new account that doesnt use any custom home server because they're all run by retards who cant keep them operational.

>>42382041
Finally a reason to use the bow animations

>>42383250
And how would I do that? I'm pretty sure I didn't go out of my way to use a "custom home server" when I first created my account, but I ended up with ":matrix.org" anyway.

>>42383261
ah right the matrix itself is on one of those servers so it's not working at all. bad luck

>>42383267
So you're telling me that >>42381757's comment about "Matrix working fine" was complete bullshit?

>>42383134
Yell at rara to fix his server or migrate the channels to one that functions.

>>42382943
>>42382668
>>42383128
>>42383134
I deleted a few massive rooms. The server should be better now, and speed up over the coming days. If you still can't do anything let me know.

WEEB NIGHT
More Space Dandy tonight at noon SLT. I'm pretty sure you can watch even if you missed previous episodes. See you there!

>>42383273
gonna tell rara to shit in my butt thats what im gonna do

>>42383555
ANON THERE IS HORSE PUSSY IN THAT SHOT

>>42383562
watching the mares fight those calories was fun

>>42383563
I'm not used to seeing Seafoam, let alone with bits on. Honestly I noticed the cutoff cutiemarks on the steps and Ann before any of that.
>>42383564
I like how that session all started from a lost bet too.

>>42383579
Escalation of a simple idea is a popen specialty

SIM RESTART IMMINENT

ANY MINUTE NOW

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>both sims at the same time AGAIN
Why is it like this since a month or so?
What happened? Can we somehow have an influence on that to get an offset back again?
It's been total popen death after total popen death.

Leaving the loafed ones behind is fucking tough

F

WHY ARE THERE POPEN SEX DOLLS IN CLOUDSDALE

>>42383896
because it's quite lonely in cloudsdale

>>42383030
I want to be a part of one but only if it’s an RP couple. A wedding and rings sounds cute but I don’t want the IRL homosexual business or stupid drama about kiss options in boopers and what not.

>>42384007
>tfw wanted to be an rp couple but the other person took it too seriously and we had to break it up
Be sure to make your boundaries clear from the start, kids.

>>42384019
Yeah, that worries me, and makes this all but impossible. Too many would want it to be real.

>>42384019
>>42384024
I can enter a no strings attached silly RP relationship
alternatively you two anons can hook up

>>42383896
Explain...

>>42384019
I'd love to have a popen companion but I'm also really lonely. I know my heart would increasingly crave an actual relationship while my head would just go WTF, it's a man you're talking to on the other side! So that's why I keep staying away from companionships.

>>42384019
>Be sure to make your boundaries clear from the start
prenups never work

>>42383884
>>42383885
Camarea will return around 3pm SLT

>>42384087
yipiie

>>42384057
I mean, there has to be some stuff in common aside from wanting to do an RP wedding.

>>42383896
pics or didn't happen

>>42384092
yes hello we love ponies here, yeah? cute powy? is that not enough?

>>42383030
Which one is your favorite?
I think Wasabi and Ginger are the cutest couple hooves down.

The problem with RP relationships is that at least 50%, if not like 90%, of the "game" involves talking over chat to a real person on the other side. If you're having a "pretend relationship" talking to another living being all day long, at some point it's no longer pretend, it's an actual relationship except while both of you are denying reality and pretending the virtual pony in the online world is real (and not the human typing on the physical keyboard on the other side).

The only thing approaching an "RP relationship" that can actually exist as such is literally just a couple of friends goofing around, not having any sort of commitment, but just LARPing relationship-like things just for the fun of having an event or something. Like some of the meme weddings we've had over time where a couple of ponies hold a wedding for the memes, RP the entire ceremony, but they're literally just doing it for the sake of a fun event and that's it.

Those actually exist, as evidenced for example by the meme weddings that have happened. But because there's nothing deeper about it, it's just a couple of friends goofing around and doing an RP for some scene or other, most people don't really call them "relationships" as such.
If you really want a long-term relationship where you larp as each other's marewives long-term, then you'll inevitably hit the block where you've committed to some kind of long-term exclusive arrangement with displays of affection and the like with what's effectively another real person, and it's a very tall task to keep a clear line and keep this up long-term without it blurring into affection FOR the other person.

>>42384095
>>42384062
go to cloudsdale's neighboring region and you'll see what I mean

or you could just choose the chad option and "just" be friends with ponies

>>42384166
just kije my cokc is firend wirth your buttogle

>>42384176

>>42384178

>>42384181

>>42384181
huh, for once I sympathize with staffie

>>42384181
>the sigma femcolt asserts dominance
>the beta gaycolt hollowheart cannot comprehend it and crashes out

>>42383896
Do you mean the herd of avatars that are doing various humping animations near a sex bed, or something else?

>>42384136
Pretty sure most popen couples are just best friends or are actually dating outside of sl. I agree with what you're saying but it's pretty common for best friends to partner and just talk about it for fun. It ain't that serious

>>42384237
the what

>>42384159
nope, i refuse to go there. you're probably just skyline looking to get more popens to go lol

>>42384349
Why not?

>>42384349
>implying sky line even cares anymore about how many popens cloudsdale has
not even him goes to cloudsdale that much nowadays. he got bigger fish to fry.

>>42384382
>suspiciously rich popens

im a newgen what's the point of cloudsdale next to baltimare, is there anyone that goes exclusively there/vice versa or is it a "hey wanna go fuck and I can't afford a parcel"

>>42384397
It's skyline's fuckbox and also you go there when baltimare is too autistic for you to handle

what the FUCK is a newgen

>>42384409
i was born in a tube yesterday all i know is popen

>Structure the discord server channels to match the matrix
>Put the invite link in the OP from next thread on
>Literally all our suffering is gone
Its ridiculous how some generals already have a discord server despite not really having any function, yet the in opg, where it would actually be useful, anons refuse to use it

>>42384435
no you dont get it anon discord is for betamale faggot cucks we dont want that so we make our own alternative nobody can actually use

I really liked the race course at Cloudsdale so I visited again to see if it has changed since I last went, there is now a leaderboard though it seems to have stopped updating my score after a couple runs. It's a shame this place is the way it is because it could be so much more.

>>42384435
I actually get it because having a community discord could lead to less activity in thread and in world, which is bad.
Matrix sucks so much that it only makes sense to use it for management nonsense that wouldn't really fit in the thread or in SL

>>42384442
this but unironically
the real solution is retvrn to IRC

>>42384457
that's the only argument I'll really accept, I know for a fact if there was a discord I probably wouldn't go on the sim as much

in all honesty the reason I want a discord is i suck at talking on virtual hangouts cause it involves physically going up to people to start conversations and I feel awkward just inserting myself into situations

>>42384457
>>42384464
yes but you see it wouldn't be a community discord
it'd be a server for mod transparency and getting in contact with moderation
and event planning and possibly even just file sharing for sim related assets
no community chatter channels whatsoever, its only channels should be exactly what there is in the matrix

>>42384435
The moment /opg/ gets an official dicksword, it will cease to be a SL-centered community. Anons (and non-anons alike) will just go there to socialize instead, because it's so much more convenient than having to log into the boomer sex sandbox. To say nothing of what will happen to the thread. Just look at what happened to /ptg/.
I'd rather wait for Rara to get off his ass and fix the Matrix.

>>42384435
Just make a phpbb

what don't you fucks understand about it not being for the community and only being for moderation and sim planning shit

>>42384458
This tbqhfmlm

Some popens have d***ord server links in their bios. If you're that desperate for social contact, go find one.

>>42384475
ok that makes more sense, at which point why not use some ticket system website

Where can one obtain this pass?

>>42384502
something something websites and services owned by globohomo

>>42384458
isn't the matrix already using IRC backend in some way?

The only problem I have with it is that I can't actually connect to it with an old timey IRC client, so instead I have to keep yet another fucking tab open in my browser, but, having it this way does means that when you connect, you can see everything that's ever been posted ever, much like discord, as opposed to each session being a clean slate like IRC proper

>>42384502
a ticket system wouldn't have the same transparency that I'd like to see about mod decisions

>>42384515
>transparency
Hahahaha

does anyone know how to resync facial animations, my eyes keep blinking seperately

>>42384527
on the op expression HUD, close both of them and then re select your eye shape

>>42384531
thank you I'm not sure how I didn't come to that conclusion myself

>>42384527
Click the circular arrows button in your Open Pony AO HUD then hit Update in the context menu pop up. This will resynch ALL your popen aniomatioms and this should be done regularly whenever you change sims

>>42384515
You're not going to get transparency because decisions aren't made on technical facts and rules - they're based on a general feeling of whether people are a good fit.
The goal is a community where people have enough in common to feel like friends or at least acquaintances. People don't make friends based on checklists and technicalities

>>42384472
unironically this

how rare is your popen

>>42384801
Medium rare.
Wish I could show up more often

>>42384544
The end result is favoritism that represents jannies and not the community as a whole.

>>42384472
Lol

I'm looking to commission some popen art but I am only interested in artists that will accept Lindens. I know a few threads ago some anons mentioned that they do accept L as payment. Can those artists share some of their work? I may be interested depending on your art style.

>>42384472
If that happened I'd sign up just to make a Blingee forum signature

>>42384469
Opg at its core has been a discord server for ages. Half the regulars were active in Gilded's server previously and most are active in about 3 different main discords now.

>>42384831
I would point at myself, but I'm already drowning in work.

>>42384801
The only rare part about me is actually showing up at the hangout instead of being at my parcel, 24/7.

>>42384876
violence

>>42384514
>isn't the matrix already using IRC backend in some way?
yes
>The only problem I have with it is that I can't actually connect to it with an old timey IRC client, so instead I have to keep yet another fucking tab open in my browser, but, having it this way does means that when you connect, you can see everything that's ever been posted ever, much like discord, as opposed to each session being a clean slate like IRC proper
ircv3 fixes this
but also nobody fucking cares about what's been posted in the past

>>42384128
I agree they ARE cute but I think Unknown and Astral have them beat. They’re perfect for each other. I love them
>>42384472
We should make it as boomer as possible with tags at the bottom as is typical for those forums.

Anon

-------------------------------------------------------------

Anon ”Faggotowski” Ymous


Proud NEAR-KIRINAM VETERAN
EAF 1978-1978
Baltimare National Guard Tryouts 1981
UAW Local 1183 1981-2007
Lot Porter at Haywood Jablome Chevrolet 2011-Present

"You can't fix stupid."
"How do I keep a happy mareiage? I stay at work and my stallion stays in the kitchen! :haha: :haha:"

sacrificial pony

>>42384831
not her but might I recommend
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=artist%3Asoff

>>42385047
Asoff? But I want it on!

The chat relay stifles conversation and I believe it should be severely nerfed. There is no reason popens hanging out in a HH parcel need to be a part of a conversation happening by the fire and vice versa. Or another example: the wheel of popen game doesn't need broadcast across two sims. I know IMs exist but they aren't ideal for group chats. Add TTS and gesture spam, the chat relay makes communicating more difficult than it needs to be.

>>42385182
Without the chat relay i feel like a significant portion of ponies would never leave the campfire out of chat FOMO which would suck because i want to see all our builds get used.

>ITT anons using software to socialize complain about socializing, request different software to socialize

>>42385182
Fuck off, I like the relay.

>>42385194
this is exactly why we have the relay.
we had people getting this kind of fomo when we first moved into the larger hangout, and normal chat coverage didnt cover the whole thing. you would constantly see just half a conversation going on when only one pony was in range and it was the worst.

>>42385182
Whisper (just hit shift+enter instead of enter)
Group IM (select multiple names with ctrl and "send IM")
Go to a parcel

You have many options and you're whining about all of them

>>42385206
I didn't say remove the relay entirely. Simply nerf its range.

>>42385279
No

>>42385182
I agree. I find myself whispering most of the time I'm somewhere on the sim that's not in the hangout.
99% of the time I see ponies having their own conversations in various places and I almost never see anypony actually talk to each other over the relay. It feels weird.

>>42385182
I think the relay should be more configurable in a per-user basis. Blocking someone else does nothing to affect whether you get their messages through the relay or not, which is part of what makes blocking so ineffective as a means of self-moderation. Each relay user having its own "mute list" and "preferred range" would be ideal, but iunno if that can be done without overloading the script's memory.

>>42385315
That just means you spend most of your time with other shy uwu socially anxious people, and have learned to filter out the chatter
You have almost no way to know whether people are "talking over the relay" because unless you're in range, they're all coming to you via the relay anyway.

I agree, remove the relay. We've had it three years and its suddenly a problem. I can't stand it anymore, I don't know why.

>>42385324
>You have almost no way to know whether people are "talking over the relay" because unless you're in range, they're all coming to you via the relay anyway.
True but I'm saying this from experience: whenever I'm in a conversation somewhere in public land (but outside the hangout central area), and the conversation is not whispered (i.e. relayed sim-wide), I almost practically never see anypony from somewhere far away join in. Nor do I ever see ponies around me joining in on the hangout conversation elsewhere in situations like these.
You just end up with parallel conversations happening in local and ponies generally just talking to the ponies in front of them.

Is this the new threadshit?

>>42385340
Yes

>>42385326
I have been half-whispering in local for well over a year now. I just never bothered to post about it in the thread before.

>>42385340
>trying to constructively discuss some aspect of Baltimare that could potentially be improved
>"threadshit!!!"
Yes sorry Baltimare is perfect in every way and I will refrain from every suggesting otherwise again my lord

>>42385355
Then keep whispering.

>>42385182
I agree, I hate the relay but I've also never played SL before and have never been to Baltimare.

Does anyone have the Minuette mare stare png already uploaded to sl as a texture? If so, please share it in group notices please and thank you

>>42385194
They already rarely leave the fire. Most builds don't get used regularly. When was the last time ponies gathered in the library?

>>42385454
The library doesn't have a relay

>>42385331
That's what I'm trying to convey here. The relay causes parallel conversations to occur and I rarely observe popens responding to something that isn't being talked about in front of them. I like the idea of having a per user set range. No idea if that is even possible on a technical level.

>>42385331
I talk to people all the time over the relay, even from a sim away. So from a sample size of 1 I can scientifically say: your wrong lol

What are you expecting to see? Do you expect each half of a conversation to be carried by people in two different hemispheres? Because the actual upside here is letting people selectively get involved. If I'm semi-AFK on a random rooftop or in the middle of the street, I can still add to the conversation sometimes. And if I'm interested in being a more active part of the conversation, yes I'll move closer, because that lets me do gestures at people and so on.

tl;dr the benefit is not letting people carry on conversations from a mile away. It's about getting people involved at all.

>>42385464
What does that have to do with the question of when was the last time you saw anyone hanging out there?

>>42385464
NTA, but at least that's thematically appropriate. Don't want popen screaming to someone on the other side of the city in the library, etc.
It's nice we still have it, it's a cozy place even if it isn't a popular hangout most of the time.

omg it's hatsune miku!

>>42385668
she's so cool

>>42385493
As a newer pony, I didn't know it was free to visit. It's on a private parcel which makes me think it's not open

>>42384827
This. The point of transparency isn't to ensure that some specific constitution is being followed, but to offer the option for the community to have input about decisions.

>>42385712
Baltimare parcels are generally fine to visit unless the owner (or sometimes not the owner...) is currently having sex in there or something
If someone wants to have a truly private parcel, you can put up banlines that prevent anyone else from entering, and baltimare's renting rules explicitly prohibit permanent banlines, i.e. you're not supposed to have fully private "no trespassing!!" parcels

>>42385725
Open dialogue is important, but nothing we have now precludes that. A place to talk != being entitled to every fact of a situation, and if you are going to give input, it has to happen with that understanding and implicit trust. Otherwise, an open dialogue is less than useless.

>>42385712
I like to break into popens' homes without checking who owns them to try and figure out who's it is
>>42385753
>currently having sex in there or something
Just more motivation for home invasion. Besides, how are you even supposed to know if they are? They won't load for me until I've entered

>>42385765
General users of the community are entitled to all of the facts surrounding a ban except in the most extreme circumstances. You'll cite the durpy situation as if the exception is the rule, but it isn't. And for the record, I doubt most ponies trust the jannies any more than the general population.

>>42385820
There are no facts when it's literally a vibe check or a "people would be annoyed by this person"

I'm thankful for smoking guns like "bigots DNI" because they shut up retards like you, but by no means should they be required for a ban - not least of which because it means it's easier for people to hide stuff that would sneak up later, and I'd rather people tell on themselves. As was stated here >>42384544 the goal is people who feel camaraderie with one another, not people who align on x amount of specific rules.

If you disagree with that idea, then I can't say anything except you're wrong, will remain wrong, and have apparently been wrong for a very long time.

>>42385848
No one ever argued for every imaginable technicality to be outlined as ban criteria, and you're showing your ass every time you run back to that strawman. The fact that your best response is "n-nuh uh you're just wrong!" says it all, really. Faggot.

>>42385848
If you can't elaborate on what sort of behavior is annoying or antithetical to the community beyond "hurr vibe check", you might be the retard - which, you definitely are, but I think the real reason that you don't elaborate is slimier than that.

>>42385918
Are you not arguing for the idea of more transparency, when they already classify this stuff under general rules? Janitors are not going to go into the specifics of how Asshole.Resident has been blackmailing people, or how Identifiable Person X, Y, and Z were pushed around by him, when a simple "2f" will do fine. Or 5f, if someone is just an annoying, obvious outsider.

They shouldn't have to qualify these things beyond what's already there.

>>42385182
This is the most retarded, stupid, Chesterton's Fence level of argument i've ever seen.
>"The chat relay stifles conversations because it's annoying and it's useless anyways because popens chat in nearby most of the time!"
Having a bunch of popens chatting within nearby range most of the time does not mean the chat relay is useless or whatever. The chat relay lets you KNOW that there IS a conversation happening in the first place. With popen gravity being what it is, most prefer to join in on the conversation with their avatars nearby. The only thing you'll accomplish by getting rid of the relay is making conversations incredibly disjointed and encourage even more cliques to form.
Also HH parcels are by default not connected to the relay. The owners of their parcels can opt into the relay by placing the chat extender in their parcels, which only THEN makes their parcel part of the relay.

>>42385964
I disagree with you

>>42385964
All parcels aren't part of the relay, not just HH.
t. owns a balti parcel and needed a relay

>>42385958
Janitors SHOULD have to identify specifics, outside of the most extreme circumstances, because, again, "vibe check" means nothing and leads to janny favortism. More transparency does not mean requiring "smoking guns" or extremely specific technical definitions. There are numerous options between "lol vibe check" and endless beaurocratic bullshit.

>>42385949
What slimy reason are you implying, anon?

>>42385986
Not going to change, accept it.

>>42385986
None of the jannies enjoy the shit they do, anon. If they're being vague, it's probably just to save their own mental health from having to invest more than they already do
If you knew any of them, you'd realize they go about this stuff with a resigned sigh. They just want to be stupid horses like anyone else, and when they do ban someone, it's usually started because someone else in the community sent in a complaint that warranted a closer look

>>42385989
That once you define bad behavior in a meaningful way, it starts applying to ponies that jannies like, and some jannies themselves. As long as you keep rules vague and evocative, you can apply them whenever you want, instead of applying them fairly. The less transparency the better when you care more about the result of "what i say goes" than a healthy community.

>>42385997
Case in point.

>>42386020
>once you define bad behavior in a meaningful way, it starts applying to ponies that jannies like, and some jannies themselves
unironically based, we're not a public sim trying to "build a community"
rules for thee (tourists) and not for me (baltimareans)

>>42386020
>As long as you keep rules vague and evocative, you can apply them whenever you want, instead of applying them fairly.
unironically based, we're not a public sim trying to "build a community"
rules for thee (tourists) and not for me (baltimareans)

>>42386039
And yet several baltimareans were banned for no reason.

>>42386048
Oh yeah? List them.

>>42386004
This is obviously wrong to anyone who actually plays. Let's pretend that the position hasn't drawn in a pony or two that enjoys power tripping and flaunting their position constantly (it has).

The jannies who were actually anything like you described have already resigned. If any current jannies hate their position so much, then they can resign right now. They won't. There are more than enough jannies to cover the different time zones, and there are most certainly better options than a few of the current jannies for providing better coverage. No one is doing it out of some bitter duty that was thrust upon them, of which no one else could dare bear.

>>42386039
That's cool and all but you can't actually define baltimarean (you specifically because you're retarded, I'm not saying it's impossible).

>>42386068
Would you drudge up a list of checks and balances to decide who's a part of your friend group? Unless you're autistic and/or neurotic, I don't think so.

>>42386078
The whole point is that this isn't raras personal discord you absolute mongoloid, it's supposed to be the sim for the /mlp/ community

>>42386088
But it is Rara's personal discord. Especially if you wrong him and only him.

>>42386088
Ok, and? How does that contradict what I've said?

>>42386094
Because this isn't a personal friend group, it's a niche community in which every member deserves fair treatment. That requires more than "lol vibes" and next to no transparency.

>>42386108
I disagree

>>42386063
Or maybe they genuinely do feel a sense of duty and don't care about their own health/enjoyment enough to stop, but they still have limited stores of endurance for it
I can tell you don't actually know any of them as people, but I envy this idea you've built for yourself. It probably makes things very straightforward

>>42385958
Right now, I can't see even those brief "banned for 5f" moderation reports, because the Matrix isn't fucking working. Can someone fix the fucking Matrix, holy shit.

>>42386130
The matrix is working.

>>42386130
The matrix is working. Git gud

>>42386131
>>42386135
Not for me. Last moderation report I see is still from June 25th.

>>42386136
Stop using matrix.horse.

>>42386117
If they're sacrificing so much for their community, I know some ponies who would be great for the position that could take over for them.

Any jannies who arent in it for authority and e-status who want to give up their position, respond to me here and we'll get it started.

Of course, no one will, because you're wrong. Being a janny isn't some great sacrifice, and I can only assume that you are one by how incredibly hard you're throating your own cock.

>>42386138
I'm using the link that's in the OP. If that link is broken, then it should be replaced.

>>42386141
Are you hornse_?

>>42386136
>>42386138
Use pony.cx on wednesdays and sundays, matrix.horse on mondays. Matrix won't work on full moons or holidays.

>>42386140
you seem like you have an ulterior motive
have you been banned before

>>42386148
Swing and a miss. I'll take that as you conceding my point.

>>42386163
I'm not even part of this conversation dipshit

>>42386144
No.

>>42386146
At this point, this post might as well not be a joke.

>>42386169
Maybe you should stay out of it if you have nothing to offer then

>>42386171
can you join this room
https://matrix.to/#/!bwOPCzsbtGnQhMszZJ:pony.cx?via=pony.cx&via=matrix.org&via=nope.chat

>>42386186
Yes. The Moderation Reports room is still not updating.

>>42386203
You're not supposed to know

>>42386206
Can you see my message in the pony.cx room

post powys

>>42386384
get comfy with ur frens

powy

if i catch your popen lackin i am going to draw their posterior and there's nothing you can do about it. consider yourselves warned.

>>42386545
o no

>>42386545
remains to be seen, nobody takes a picture of the green ass...

>>42385668
DEPLOY THE TACTICAL JAR

>>42385712
it's a public library, anon

>>42385622
>literal MATRIXDEMON
That's what you fucking get for talking about the Matrix for too long. They send their demons.

>>42385182
That's your opinion, man.
If you don't want your shit broadcasted simwide then whisper.
Public chat is for pony silliness, Baltimare is for silliness.
For anything else there's IMs and conference (you can mark several users and basically created a temporary group for a talk).

LL also plans to introduce a gesture hiding feature.

For a sec I thought the Free Shit & More mare started talking and it almost freaked me out

>>42384976
>We should make it as boomer as possible with tags at the bottom as is typical for those forums.
I'd go so fucking boomer with the signature, avatar and all you have no idea

>>42384472
>STOP NECROBUMPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>42384747
Funfact, breathsharing is a tradition among horses to greet each other. Basically they stand really close to another and snoof in each other's faces

>>42384136
I've been in a situation like this before where the meme relationship began feeling too real, and it ended up really hurting me as I was too naive and attention starved to realize that my partner wasn't interested in anything deeper.
The person who rejected me was also, ironically, the only one i could confide in at the time, so it led to a lot of bottled feelings.

My advice is to either fully commit or avoid being in a relationship at all, as playing pretend WILL lead to heartbreak unless you are confident in your emotional stability.

>>42385805
>Besides, how are you even supposed to know if they are?
Temporary banlines are fine by the rules

>>42386140
>I know some ponies who would be great for the position that could take over for them.
They're free to apply to janny position

>>42386130
Purely a skill issue.
>>42386141
I'm also using the link from the OP.

>>42386144
weird to have seen my name be randomly suggested here, am I blocked from seeing shit or something? I'm also a user who hasn't been able to see anything since june 25

>>42386960
I applied to be janny once and they never told me why I was denied... :(

WTF SEX ON TV

>>42387094
WTF VIOLENCE IN MOVIES

>>42386994
Metal post

>>42387276
huh??

>>42387278
metal post

>>42387278
Striking likeness...

>>42387276
Imagine a DEER as a Janny of a pony sim, disaster

>>42387276
unironically not but I do know his secret :)

>>42387389
Red post

>>42387393
waow

>>42387393
I think I've never actually talked to red so I can't say anything ominous about him

wtf

>>42387528
kek

Stay aligned
One with the bush

>>42387436
I've talked to Red but he never talks back

>>42387675
I've never talked to Red but he talks to me

>>42386970
Are you able to see mod reports from after June 25th?

>>42387707
I have this experience with Metal

Now I wonder how many have tried to talk to me and didn't get a response because I'm often absolutely retarded and tend to not notice things sometimes

why is tea always so mean to camarea? she never did anything to him

>>42387757
tea is a hater of fun

>>42387810
I bet tea doesn't return shopping carts either

I think this is officially the closest anyone ever gotten to the lens without clipping

>>42387832
SHIT, I just noticed the hair clipping. Nevermind.

Rose used to be pretty cool and now he's just obsessed with a faggot from a fart fetish video. sad

>>42388014
His therapist really changed him

Can I just go full naked horse or will this raise eyebrows?

>>42388035
consult fluffuls for instructions on this topic

>>42387735
Yes. There's one from today

Today there was another Baltimare space program test run!

>>42382297
>needing constantly to verify on phone and disconnecting at random
>stable
matrix clients are bad but discord is just as much of a hassle

>>42388063
>verify on phone
Never once, I avoid any server that requires phone verification
>disconnecting at random
Huh?

>>42387675
I have this experience with someone here. Plz I just want to be friends, I don't know what I did to make you dislike me so

>>42388216
Who did you try to talk to?

>>42388527
Red

>>42388014
He was always a gay retard, he's just more flamboyant about it now. Basically turned into male middy

>>42388547
He's not that different underneath the rp really

>>42386960
Make nutsy a janny again so that you can resign, considering it's such tough work.

>>42388564
Well yes that's what I mean by having always been a gay retard

>>42388527
I don't wish to throw shade at anyone

>>42383831
Red mare spotted

>>42388624
Why is that thread so godawful?

>>42388216
I have had this experience from the other end a few times, this could unironically be about me. A pony messaging me repeatedly and clearly wanting to become closer friends but I can never manage to properly reply. I try not to ignore messages but sometimes I've probably sounded dismissive due to not being able to make the time for a proper conversation

I wish I had infinite time so I could probably dedicate it to all my friends (and all the friends I'd be able to make with my new time). Sometimes I feel like I'm socially "full" and basically don't have the capacity for a new friendship unless I start neglecting an existing one. There are simply more awesome ponies that I'd love to be friends with than I can physically handle...

>>42388014
I wanted to say this for a while but didn't know how.

>>42388640
ok Red

>ponies running around with their chatbox bubble going ... BUT THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This is it. If I take one more step, it’ll be the farthest away from Baltimare we've ever been.

>>42388887
>>42388897
Light situation looks a bit like they're watching fireworks. Comfy...
Thank you for posting these

It all began when the mega-rings were forged.
Three trial copies were given to the immortal Unicorns. Just to check if they would survive.
Then seven were given to the Pegasus from Baltimare.
And nine, nine rings were given to the earth pony race. And, as practice showed, in vain.
The power of the rings was limited. Each ring ruled its own race.
And then a smart guy came along and messed everything up.
In the lands of the Luna's Empire, on the black mountain, the gloomy lord empressluna.starchild secretly crafted a super-mega-ring for thirty-three years. And into this ring he planted all his cruelty, all his malice, all his bad habits and everything else.
That's how it went.

Cast it into the fire! Destroy it!

NOOOOOH!

>>42389179
aaaaaaaaaaa

>>42389203
I'd eat all of that faster than you guys can see and I'm not even a fatty

>>42388640
>there are ponies with so many friends they don't have the energy for all of them while people won't even answer my IMs
grim

>>42389284
Absolutely adorable

>>42389454
Whoah.... hoofa.......

>>42389454
that's the stuff

ded thred

>>42389712
who's fucking blood is that

>>42389714
a mystery for the ages

The Anon who wanted to see Remy again, that pony is online right now so you know

Thanks Buggo for the Camarea wrangling

>>42389732
Nta but Remy's neet mare is neat. A neat neet

>>42389732
Found some smoking action from the bunker days

>>42389758
They're a neet? I thought they were some sort of ghoul...

>>42389765
I have no idea about the creator's intentions... For me it's a neet mare.

>>42389773
my intentions were neurotic neet mare ^:)

MAREBOX 11 AM TOMORROW ON THURSDAY

>>42389784
ee pee jumpscare

catpcha: AM0MBJ

>>42389110
Why shouldn't I keep it?

>check baltimap
>everyone is at the beach
>check camarea
>she's sitting at the fire
wtf

>check baltimap
>several parcel names need serious updating

>>42390455
Yep it's been a good while since they've been updated

who up stroking they pensive

>>42390799
Don't do it it produces mustang gas

>>42390859
he can move?!

I WILL NOT COLLAPSE BEFORE K+ TODAY.
I'M GOING TO FUCKING CRY IF I DO.

>>42390948
Have you tried getting smaller cells?

>>42390976
what

>>42390981
That anon is referring to the hoax meme of couple weeks ago

I'm trying a revision on this head shape but I don't know if there's a way to fix how shitty the normals look once uploaded.

>>42391004
You might be able to work against the mangled mesh by kneading the normals in a way to steer against the issues but doing this will always be a ghettofix and may don't work at all for those running potatoes on minimal gfx. Doesn't help that a pure white coat makes issues stick out even more.
I guess to get completely rid of the issues you'd have to redo the entire head mesh but then you'd also have to redo the animations and weightmapping.
A whole lotta work for quite the niche mod since most probably prefer cute looks and that mod definitely makes her look a lot more mature/aged. Of course would be appropriate for a ruler but you have to think about if this getting blown into a time consuming project is worth it for a couple users who might want to use it.

>>42391004
You might be able to work against the mangled mesh by kneading the normals in a way to steer against the issues but doing this will always be a ghettofix and may not work at all for those running potatoes on minimal gfx. Doesn't help that a pure white coat makes issues stick out even more.
I guess to get completely rid of the issues you'd have to redo the entire head mesh but then you'd also have to redo the animations and weight mapping.
A whole lotta work for quite the niche mod since most probably prefer cute looks and that mod definitely makes her look a lot more mature/aged. Of course would be appropriate for a ruler but you have to think about if this getting blown into a time consuming project is worth it for a couple users who might want to use it.

>>42391035
Yeah the problem with Celestia's head is that she has a unique model in the show so any solution like this is never going to look right, and making an actually show accurate head would definitely require redoing the weight mapping and even the animations. Luna gets away with it because her head is closer to the standard pony style so it's easier to ghetto fix it (I just use the femcolt head to get that slightly square-ish snout), but Nightmare Moon shares the same problem as Celestia.

I wonder if the "official" alicorn body, if HMart ever makes one, will address these issues.

>>42390992
>>42390976
I'm still proud of it btw, easily my best post yet. Was laying on my belly kicking my hindlegs in the air like a schoolfilly reading the replies and sim-chat

>>42391047
>"official" alicorn body, if HMart ever makes one

>>42391035
The phrase "manged mesh" made the cogs in my brain turn, so I went back to see how the mesh looks with no anim and smoothed out the jagged area.

>>42391054
Oh yeah that is definitely better

>>42391054
She's beautiful

>>42391054
Oh shit that actually looks good in-game. The blender preview looks like an ayy but when actually rendered as Celestia it works really really well

>>42391059

>>42391104
kek

Always great to see popens posting WIPs

Fuck, wrong file, here we go.
Alway great to see popens posting WIPs

>>42391218
>wrong file
mhm yeah sure

>>42391215
Awooga

>>42391215
*wolf whistle*

>>42391233
>>42391240
I missed it, damn

>>42391054
that's way better very good anon

>>42391254
It was this https://files.catbox.moe/0a8y4l.webm

>>42391318
I've gone soft in an instant.

>>42391329
picture them as balls, that might help

>>42391334
No, I just don't like inflation.

>>42391318
Holy based

I never did quite appreciate teata.
But on the topic I finally got around to customizing the bits I received years ago but never used. Really not sure what color to go with, how much darker than the coat e.t.c.

Is it better for a shop to have consistent pricing on the mp and inworld, or do you like when stores offer a discount at the inworld vendors?

>When Marble told Pinkie she really liked 'Beach Rock', her sister did not quite get it. She invited the rest of her family to the beach anyway, all under the pretense of a different kind of 'Rocks'. But now that they're here, may as well enjoy it!

Tomorrows Friday Party is BEACH ROCK themed, with Marble as DJ. Bring your swim suits, and maybe a bucket or two to collect smooth beach rocks!
https://files.ponut.space/mcXjVjXL.png

>>42391616
Cute photo

MAREBOX TIM

>>42391614
LL takes a 10% cut of all marketplace sales, so I understand if vendors raise their prices on the marketplace.

>>42391614
Discounted prices in inworld stores is based.
Even if the "money saved" is kinda laughable it's still a nice incentive to go online and visit the actual "physical" store. If you're terminally lazy then you just pay the lazy tax and make LL richer.

>>42391639

>>42391614
LL takes a 10% cut on marketplace purchases. It makes perfect sense to me when there's a discount in-world. Given how convenient the marketplace is, I really wonder whether any shops actually make more revenue in-world than from the MP; I'd imagine it's likely the opposite and likely by a wide margin too. The MP cut is basically a "convenience tax" for allowing your products to appear in global search results rather than requiring potential customers to seek out some specific shop.

With all this in mind, a discount of a bit less than 10% can be perfectly profitable for the seller, encouraging a few more in-world sales which will still bring in more revenue per sale. It's a win-win. An exactly 10% discount is also nice but the counterpoint there is that in-world stores usually cost rent, so making a bit of extra L$ from the in-world store makes sense.

When the in-world item costs as much as the MP item it just seems like laziness. You could make more money AND save me more money, but no, you're either greedy or too lazy to bother.

>>42391655
caspervend has fees as well

I remember years back there was the fad of lucky chairs or how they were called.
Basically chairs in front of or inside stores that had a rotation of randomly picked characters on them. If the character represented the first one of your name AND you then hopped on that chat you got free shit from that store. Sometimes worth several 100 sneedens.
It actually worked. It drew quite a few people there (including perma-broke me) and was great fun especially if you got something from the store you actually wanted but didn't have the monies for or didn't want to shell out that kinda money for it.
If I ever get myself a store I _WILL_ make a luckychair for it.

>>42391672
How much? Also you can sell from a cube if you want to.

>>42391672
Caspervend is more or less only needed if you want to be a professional seller who needs its functionality to easily keep track of sells for tax reasons.
If you never intend to cash out then you probably don't need it

Tetsu I also crave that feature so much you have no fucking idea.
Hence we all need to fucking upboat this

https://feedback.secondlife.com/feature-requests/p/change-sound-pitch

to get their attention

>>42391616
hhhh

>>42391672
>>42391693
*caspervend has a 5% fee on the free version of the vendor
if you shell out for the one time cost of the full version there's no further fees and the lack thereof eventually pays for itself
caspervend is useful because you can push updates to products through it, and it keeps track of your sales, and additionally you can set up sales and group discounts etc for it
as an example, my balti vendors are actually discounted slightly from all my other in world shops, and I do occasional sales that are balti-exclusive, and that is all handled through caspervend, utilizing their website controls

Tail rating

>>42391865

>>42391725
When was the last time LL ever implemented a suggestion?

>>42391888
Sadly though it usually magically doesn't happen when I want something implemented

smol

>>42392020
oh shit you looked way more fucked up in-world, you were missing your beard and mane and everything and I thought it was on purpose

>>42392041
Kek, not him but yeah it got even worse after he logged in again

K+ 4 PM SL TIME

>>42392115
I only have to survive for 2 and half hours.
How hard could it be. :)

>>42392125
pouring ants down your big ears

>>42392135
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>42392084
yeah that's what he looked like at my end too

>>42392084
Now that's just my donkey, maybe I should give them a hat

>>42392247
He needs a tuft of fur on his head

>>42392247
he'd look good with a flat cap

>>42392247
he needs a tophat

>>42392247
He needs a turban.

possible tourists near campfire
syrupbunny and raraish
they aren't in nor/mlp/eople

>>42392441
They've posted here

>>42392441
You must be the tourist seeing you'd not read the thread in the past week.

Which britbong do you want to boop the most?
(Before they all get nuked from 4chan in 45mins)

>>42392485
NOOO I'M GOING TO BECOME AN OFFBOARDER

>>42392499
just use a vpn, faggot.

>>42392499
yeah....

>>42392500
they're blocked from posting retard

>>42392505
crying

>>42392441
>they aren't in nor/mlp/eople

except we are?

>>42392485
Lol made me look

I do fully expect to finally have to buy a passu one of these days though

>>42392509
loaf these 2 silly mares

>>42391318
hhhh

Are we safe?

>>42392658
think so...

>>42392658
Who knows, we're never truly safe

>>42392667
(You) are not safe.

I guess at least on SL Bongs will be safe at least those who already have payment info given to LL (which you need to do anyway if you ever want to upload mesh)

Anybody got that login screen of unknown charging at their avatar

>>42392485
fake and gay

>>42392698
OI! Where's your 4chinning loicense?

Post popens

>>42392707

>>42392692
No but I have Indi charging at me

>>42391655
>greedy or lazy
I didn't realize anyone would feel this way. I priced mine the same on both because I know some people aren't good at navigating one or the other and didn't want to put anyone at a disadvantage. Probably should have thought about it more.

>>42392756
Think about it this way, you're not putting anyone at a disadvantage if the MP is up to 10% more, LL is.

>>42392806
That's true. I still feel a little responsible since I'm choosing to list the products there, but you're right. It's assumed things are being sold there since that's their platform.

Mares

fish
https://files.catbox.moe/f8c1b5.mp4

>>42392859
Are you sure

K+
https://youtu.be/q1xZIuuZoEU
https://youtu.be/LhIg73EbTp0
https://youtu.be/1CLHdP6MPGg

does anyone want me to massage staffie's scrotum?

>>42392913
Only if I get to watch, currently gooning to >>42392134 so I'm in the mood

>>42392963
>publicly announcing masturbation to micro/foot art.
I don't know you're based or socially inept.

>>42392977
Please DO NOT announce to the thread/sim when you are going to masturbate. This has been a reoccurring issue, and I’m not sure why some popens have such under developed social skills that they think that a server full of mostly mare strangers would need to know that. Nopopen is going to be impressed and give you a brohoof (especially considering where that hoof has been). I don’t want to add this to the rules, since it would be embarrassing for newfags to see that we have a problem with this, but it is going to be enforced as a rule from now on.

If it occurs, you will be warned, then additional occurrences will be dealt with at the discretion of jannies. Thanks.

Have you ever noticed that popen eyeballs are in fact neither round nor balls

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/ZUMIKO-MY-LITTLE-PONY-MEGAPACK-UNPACKER/27321249
They even have Spike!

>>42393022
>those humans
nightmare fuel
why are sl normans like that

Am I bonkers or did the trees actually lose some of their green intensity? I mean it would make sense considering we're way past summer half time but that kinda detail care would be kinda impressively autistic

>>42393043
>but that kinda detail care would be kinda impressively autistic
Do not underestimate the ornament laborer