Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: An 85 year old southern grandma HiE who thinks she's just gone to hell!

ITT: The rabbithole of Thomas the Tank Engine crossovers, Pinkie could have been a tumour, Roseluck's dirty, bulging, gravid belly struggling in the garden, grilling Celestia about her secret cake reserves, a loving married couple that enjoys an occasional threesome with a stallion from another tribe, live updates on the state of anons' penises, my life is actually going great which is bad because I have way less time for writing now, Twilight is canonically a single mom with the Equestrian equivalent of an adopted African child, meticulously keeping tabs on horseword authors, Rainbow Dash happily thinks of herself as a racist, Voltaire EVISCERATES dumb TRADITIONALIST noblepony BIGOT, and not starting on the conspiracy fic!

>/fimfic/ Secret Book Club
The one hundred and eighteenth book is The Best of All Possible Worlds:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/39157/the-best-of-all-possible-worlds
If (You) want to join in the discussion, read to the end of the 31st chapter (titled "Chapter 30") by Sunday, August 3.

>Recommended stories:
Tired of authors crossing over a dozen IPs? Fed up with downer shipping? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!
New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/
Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png

>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:
https://ponepaste.org/7317

>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:
http://www.mlpficreviews.org.uk
Use the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.
Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619

>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:
https://eznguide.neocities.org/

>Can you pre-read my story?
Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.

>Additional material for authors:
Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932
Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
1911 Walter Baker's Hot Chocolate - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAueNTXpn1E
Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4f
Setting a story in motion - https://youtu.be/ufO8LbwTdu0
Taking criticism - https://youtu.be/-v4R2ZcxPlA

>Various reviews and riffs:
Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555
Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom
IHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakura
Appleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPm
Deluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeU
A Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.png
The Royal Canterlot Library's Top 16 Fanfics - https://royalcanterlotlibrary.net/top16/

Previous Thread: >>42377104

How often do you reread fics? Does your opinion of them change much?

>>42407311
>How often do you reread fics?
Only if they made me cry. The tears make the pain hurt less.

>Does your opinion of them change much?
Ones I liked years ago before I could read make me realize that they weren't that good.

Second for you killed a thread I was trying to save.

>>42407325
Don't you mean he aborted it

>>42407326
kek

The thread was mostly done, the convention was already over, so I guess it's only premature, really.

https://www.fimfiction.net/group/213908/cozy-glow/thread/563664/cozy-glow-short-story-contest-6-guidelines
I kinda want to enter but I don't want to entertain the thought of giving Jeff Bezos any money.

>>42407331
just like you!

>>42407341
Fics about premature babies?

>>42407311
>How often do you reread fics?
Only the ones I really liked. I must've re-read about a dozen fanfics, not including a few for the club.
>Does your opinion of them change much?
It reinforces how great my taste is.

>>42407311
I reread Past Sins out of curiosity cause it was talked about here a bit. There's some okay parts, some parts that could be a lot better written, but it definitely makes Twilight and Celestia super extra retarded to move the plot forward.

>>42407370
Three Steps Back.

12th for best duo!
Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/247622/twilight-good-night

This is going to be an odd request, but does anyone have a list of decent stories about our favorite OC Milky Way?

>>42407479
Why does she make the milk
What poor foal has to deal with her for a mom

>>42407311
Only if it is a fic i autistically latched on to as a fixation 5+ years ago. Or if it is a short fic I think is really good.

>>42407495
She makes milk because that's her special talent, duh.

And also, I think she'd make for a great mom!

The Celestia/Sombra pairing is probably the dumbest thing

>>42407547
Not really, much like Flash Sentry Sombra has zero concrete personality so you can easily rewrite him to be whatever you require him to be.

My favorite thing I’ve seen with mlp fanfictions is when celestia is this stalwart godlike figure that feels disconnected from others and is lonely due to her position. and who puts on a controlled visage in public, but then someone or multiple people break through the facade she has put up and bring connection and joy into her life that she has deeply wanted her whole life but could not obtain, breaking through the mask to reveal and connect to the true and wonderful pony that was behind it all along, with all of her positives and negatives.

>>42407560
ok but all of that and it's my fat wee wee providing her with all those emotional desires

>>42407560
You mean basically what's canon already?

>>42407547
What other stallion is worthy of claiming Celestia's millennia old maidenhead? Big Mac's already been claimed by the moon.

>>42407598

>>42407598
There just aren’t really any canon male characters that would make for a good match.

>>42407641
At least pick a colt that doesn't look disgusting like Rumble or some shit.

>>42407598
Celstia is for her sister

>>42407643

>>42407555
>Sombra has zero concrete personality
Other than being insecure and manipulative. His whole power set is built around mind control.

>>42407648
>Other than being insecure and manipulative.
Sounds like a good fit.

>>42407646
>gets given an easy assignment
>fails it instantly
I can see why you ended up here

>>42407652
Okay, I tried extra hard this time. I found the sexiest colt in existence.

>>42407648
Mins control is gay.

>>42407654
Taken strait from the coal mines

>>42407654
That's a stallion, dumbass.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/580932/to-she-who-will-inherit-the-sun-moon-and-all-beneath
>more AI generated slop

>>42407660
>mfw I've had GDocs morph every -- into — since I started ficcing.
>Now I worry someone's gonna call my stuff AI slop because I overuse them.
Time to change to parentheses...

>>42407681
It's the threebanger dash that it uses, not the twofold

>>42407681
emdash—kun doesn't deserve what AI writing has done to it

>>42407689
Yeah, but I don't trust the average person to know the difference.
I mean, I barely know the difference.

>>42406178
The Yandex cache was updated on July 26th and has up to 4.6, so it looks like that was the most recent chapter.

>>42407681
Word autocorrects -- to — as well. Em dashes are also trivially easy to edit in with any competent word processor with find/replace. You don't even need the unicode or hotkey, you just go Insert > Symbol and select it. It's kind of funny that taking even a minute of effort to properly edit your story is now seen as debasing the very writing process itself.

>>42407660
I wonder if I could, as a human, write text that everyone thought was AI.

>>42407655
So is Sombra!

>>42407779
Celestia's a dude?

>>42407807
>The only reason Celestia is a virgin princess is because she falls for homogays exclusively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0yd8Ie1-vY

Hey anon, recommend some fics where earth ponies start a social revolution because they realize pony society puts them at the end of the line. And please no Estee. I couldn't finish Triptych because of the cringe.

>>42407926
Recommend human and pony war fics to this guy instead. Let him suffer

>>42407598
>>42407642
Obviously the one who will allow her to further populate Equestria with alicorns.

>>42407598
Troubleshoes is the only stallion with a mighty enough dong to explore that territory. His ill-luck in the rest of his life is the cosmos attempting to balance out his future of railing Celestia morning noon and night.

>>42408115
I have a policy of not writing more blogposts than stories and, ideally, I should have a high ratio of stories to blogposts. I don't think 34/9 to be too bad.

Imagine believing that people give a shit about opinions unrelated to the stories that brought your audience to you in the first place.

>>42408115
Especially when they're bitching about a country, (usually the US), that they don't live in.

I estimate a good portion of the still active fandom is actually just social engineering contractors.

Uuuhhhhhh, janny melty?
Guess we found and talked about his account lmao

>>42408437
Shittynonce is too demented to ever make janny.

>>42407681
Do people actually just use em dashes to detect AI?
In my experience if I can spot it it's usually because of the pretty formulaic structure and mannerisms of common public AIs. And if you use a custom model and tweak it enough that it's not easily recognisable, and generate decent enough slop that it doesn't feel too much like the product of a next-token generator, then you're probably going to be able to edit out the em dashes too if you care.

>>42408328
Good old Chat' is a well known specimen. Good stuff.

>>42408465
Hear me out: TCB/ICE crossover.

>>42408462
It's one of the easiest shortcuts possible, only slightly more difficult than noticing markdown bullets.
I wonder if anyone has tried to identify the dash cabal responsible for editing hyphens out of Wikipedia across tens of thousands of articles that influenced the training data so much. I'm sure they're in other places as well, but it's funnier to blame the top dozen dash autists.

>>42408462
At least it helps raise dash literacy (the other kind; we've seen Dash read letters in the show). The hyphen spammers are gross, gross people—now everyone is at least aware of what an em dash is.

>>42408511
I've not seen this pic before, it got a genuine IRL laugh out of me.

>>42408511
I am--and still I shun your wretched Unicode.

>>42408486
Markdown bullets are obviously easy but only if the style actually matches the typical LLM-speak type of bullet point. I'd find it equally absurd if someone were to include good faith bullet points and they got accused of being an LLM.
Meanwhile that's exactly what seems to be happening with em-dashes, people see dashes in a text and assume it's an LLM.

I could understand it if the dashes were in some comment or forum post where you wouldn't expect anyone to write it in a text editor, but a formatted story is exactly where a human would put some.

>>42408486
Do you really think it was that and not the trillion of tokens of actual literature the models were trained on?

>>42408380
AA is a CC by the definition of the term.

>>42408337
What about Bulk Biceps? He's bulky.

>>42408600
No, not only if the actual bullet point text matches an LLM style. I didn't say it wasn't absurd. It sucks, but I've seen definitely-non-LLM comments on forums and reddit written with bullet points get accused of being ChatGPT purely for trying to be helpful and formatting their text for readability.

It is unusual for people to put more than the bare minimum into a fanfic's punctuation. I think that if you had access to the moderation queue, filtered blindly for fics with em-dashes and put them in two buckets, more than half would be LLM generated.

>>42408619
The mods have it the worst because putting that punctuation in a fic is exactly the same place and LLM would for that reason. Somewhat sadly, they seem to err on the side of favoring the author and keep letting chat bot fics through.

>>42408652
The mods don't read the fucking fics, they have one sexual assaulter pressing approve 20 times in a row once a week after taking his meds and that's it.

Hey faggots I have an unusual thing to ask of you.
If say you somehow happened to pretend to be Jim Miller's boss on a certain social media website then how would you extract information out of Miller without him just going "Aren't you supposed to know that, boss?"

>>42408685
"I think I left my notes on your nightstand, could you catch me up to speed?"

>>42408600
>or forum post where you wouldn't expect anyone to write it in a text editor,
It's trivial to summon them with the keyboard alone. It's alt+some numpad numbers on windows, iirc, and ctrl+shift+u+[numbers] on most of the Linux environments I've seen. 2014 for the em-dash, 2013 for the en-dash. And 2011 for the non-breaking hyphen, if you want to get unreasonably fancy.

>>42408652
I've been converted to the em-dash orthodoxy, but if I were to submit a new fic to fimfiction from a new account, I'd switch to my original denomination and use en-dashes for at least that one story, just to make it easier to tell it's not AI.

When I said "go fuck a tree", this wasn't what I meant.

>>42408690
>It's trivial to summon them with the keyboard alone.
Nobody will bother for a normal comment on a website, or a post on 4chan or whatever. Yes, you CAN do it but normal people don't memorize these numbers.
I say this as an autist who learned the difference between em-dashes and en-dashes, but it still doesn't make sense to learn the alt-code for it. Are you also gonna learn the alt-code for the correct quotes to use? Hint, " is not a quote character in typographical English, it's an ASCII approximation, same for ' in both contractions and single-quoted quotations. Do you also enter non-breaking spaces between numbers and units? Do you alt-code superscript and subscript numbers or the unicode symbols for maths operations?
I'm pretty sure the number of people who do any of this is minuscule - if you want to properly typeset text, you generally use a word processor of some kind, and for casual text a hyphen in place of an em-dash is just as accepted as an ASCII apostrophe in place of a single quote.

>>42408726
>it still doesn't make sense to learn the alt-code for it
It depends on how much you value the very low one-time investment of effort against making all of your messages a little nicer forever. I do not know the codes for proper quotation marks, and " is clearer at small font sizes anyway, but if you were to include them, I'd only nod with appreciation.
>Do you also enter non-breaking spaces
I often forget to, but thanks to variable screen resolutions, it'd be helpful if more people did that, yes. They only matter if the text happens to wrap at that specific point, so it probably affects less than 5% of people who read it, so it may feel like a wasted tiny bit of work.
>I'm pretty sure the number of people who do any of this is minuscule
Largely out of ignorance, followed by negligence. Most people simply do not know these characters. People being dumb is not a reason to do the same if you know better.

There is obviously a point past which you'd be putting too much effort into typesetting a 4chan post. Proper superscript would be well past it, in my opinion, and I think 4chan might be stripping it from posts anyway. But em-dashes are very easy to tell apart from a hyphen, markedly improve the readability of a sentence at a glance, and cost you maybe half a second to input. You can bind a macro to insert them instantly, too. Your reasoning is the same thing that leads to "twitter-style" online writing, without any punctuation marks or even capital letters.

>>42408770
i mean lots of comments even here are typed without punctuation or capitals
im pretty sure it didnt originate on twitter

>>42408775
For sure, but it (seems to have?) gained a lot of popularity there. It was probably due to the extremely low character limit per message.

What fics got you doing this?

>>42408840
Yours

>>42408690
Touching the numpad is enough to put you in the top 1% of the population by nerdery. Normal people don't ever use it. There's a reason they sell keyboards without it.

>>42408840
Way too many that have a great/promising first part, then fall off into OC/Self insert vomit that have nothing to do with the initial story. Especially prevalent when the fic has sequels.

>>42408860
Yeah, my $100 chromebook doesn't even have a capslock.

>>42408840
My bookshelves are as barren as Rarity's womb.

>>42408866
I read a fic like that that a totally normal premise and was fairly self contained and then started going off the rails
Or the weird insane shit with that one where Sweetie Belle is Rarity's biological daughter. So many of the fics in that sort of vein always have a sequel where some ancient entropic embodiment of evil is suddenly a thing.

>>42408871
You'd think she'd be happy about the ability to offer bareback without needing to worry about unwanted pregnancy.

>>42408884
Unfortunately like all of the mane 6, Rarity wants to get knocked the FUCK up.

>>42408871
Sweetie Belle just took all of it when she slid out, huh

>>42408770
My point is that if you really want to typeset properly, you can just type in a proper editor. Punching in alt-codes is clunky.
I guess you have a point in that a little bit of typesetting is slightly better than no typesetting, and at the same time if you only want to do a tiny bit of it (like just adding em-dashes) then you don't necessarily need to switch to a full editor. But I maintain my belief that the number of people who care exactly the right amount to typeset only one or two specific thing using alt-codes, and care specifically about em-dashes rather than some other small thing, is minuscule.

>>42408840
None, but I was really close to favouriting Heart of an Author before chapter 19 kicked in and I dropped the story just as hard as I clicked on the downvote button.

>>42408885
A second time? >>42408888

>>42408876
The Teacher, The Sorceress, and The Wonderbolt is a fic that comes straight to mind every time I think about this.

For some god awful reason, author decided to devolve it into some way too overcomplicated interdimensional something or other that I didn't even bother to remember. I read the whole thing just to be left with a final chapter that ended with several time skips of nothing.

I got increasingly more upset when they could've just stuck to the god damn premise of the three fighting for Twilight. One of the bigger wastes of my time on the site.

>>42408903
This time she doesn't want to live a lie.

Good moderately long pinkie pie romance fic? I decided to read this runigtreeslops fic and the lovey dovy horny pinkie pie was the only good thing in it.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/580935/to-shreds-you-say

>>42408935
Changelings, Love, and Lollipops

>>42408904
There was like a slice of life Luna/Rainbow Dash fic I read where it starts doing weird shit like Discord being a former pony that murdered his wife and lover to create the elements of harmony to combat a more evil version of him and dumb shit like that.
I think a lot of writers just don't plan out their fics and are throwing shit at the wall.

>>42408904
Why tf this shit on good reads?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22070991-the-teacher-the-sorceress-and-the-wonderbolt

>>42408940
Because anyone can put anything on goodreads just like TVTropes

>>42408942
Yeah but what’s the point? The only thing goodreads is good for is stalking interesting people who have a goodreads account to see what they’ve read.

>>42408951
To satisfy their ego.

>>42408959
Someone else put my first popular fic on there years ago because the fandom was still active back then.

>>42409009
Internet fandom culture peaked in the early to mid 2010’s. It doesn’t even feel like it on distinct thing anymore. Fandom content is just another genre of slop content in the bottomless pit of slop that is the internet now.

>realize some spots in my stories have too many commas
>can't change the text to get the desired effect as usual
>grow up and start using em dashes in these cases
>em dashes are now considered to be evidence of an LLM writing something
Well, that sucks, but I'm not going to stop using them just because an evil idiot loosed the world's best chatbot on us.

>>42409341
I don't think anyone's going to accuse you of LLM stuff if you don't also have an AI generated cover.

>new iisaw series entry
huh

>>42409548
I'm glad the FBI gave him the okay to keep posting pony.

>>42409548
amazing timing

>>42409341
>>grow up and start using em dashes in these cases
Just use parentheses like real adults.

>>42409716
The only parentheses people on this site are familiar with are the triple variety.

I’m making a list on ponepaste of all of the bookclub fics in chronological order. someone in this thread said they already had a list a while back, but when I asked them to link it they never delivered. I’ll be posting it later tonight.

Okay so
Joan of Arc ends up in Equestria

I just finished reading Redwall (I never got to finish it as a kid) and now I feel like writing a fantasy epic AU about the Apple clan.

>>42410005
>Derpy/Mac
That's new

>>42410004
An HIE fic where captain James cook ends up in equestria after sailing through a thick fog in the South Pacific.
An HIE fic where Napoleon falls down a cave on Saint Helena trying to kill himself and ends up equestria.
An HIE fic where Richard the lionheart gets captured by the Muslims and left in the middle of the desert to die and finds a portal to equestria in an oasis pool that shouldn’t be there.
An HIE fic where a Scot’s Irish settler in colonial Appalachia gets captured by natives and thrown into a gully that empties out into the everfree forest.

>>42409918

Ok I finished the list.

https://ponepaste.org/11253

I did not consider the fact that I could not update or otherwise change the list after I posted it…

>>42410092
Would I be able to update it if I made a ponepaste account and then reposted the list on that account?

>>42410065
I wanted to write a one-shot where God sends the Israelites through Equestria on their way to the promised land.

>>42410092
I'm surprised I've only participated in 30 clubs. And that's including the one I wrote.

>>42410112
I really like that idea and would love to read it. I am surprised the will of god is not a more common reason for humans in HIE stories being sent to equestria.

>>42410005
I tried to read Redwall once and gave up pretty fast. It was like eating reheated week-old Tater Tots.

>>42410092
I've wondered for a while whether the book numbers in the OP are accurate, and it looks like the answer is no. But you have a 17.1 and a 24.1. What's up with that?

>>42410119
I have participated in like 5-10 despite lurking in the thread regularly since before the club begun.

>>42410138
Oh yeah I forgot to mention the bookclub numbers got fucked up a few months ago and we’ve been one behind what it’s supposed to be since then. TBOAPW is fic # 119, not 18.

As for 17.1 and 24.1, I wasn’t sure what to do with them. 17.1 was called a “bonus fic” in the fimfic op post and 24.1 was likewise said to be “with” 24 “as a side story”. Here’s the links to the op posts.
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39478465/#39478465
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39799079/#39799079
Should I just keep them as is or remember the whole list with them as whole numbers? If I did that then we’d currently be further off count and actually be on fic # 121.

>>42410165
Let's redo the numbers.
Accuracy above all.

>>42410174
I remade the list. I’m going to wait until tomorrow for some other people to give their opinions and then I’ll post the edited list if that’s what the majority want.

>>42410218
>pic
Rape

>>42410165
I went back and tried to find the reasoning. This was the era of trying to re-evaluate the Starter Kit. It looks to me like the reasoning was that these fics were too short to require a whole week or even most of a week. So on these weeks, there were other, longer main fics, and these were extra. But the discussions seemed to take them just as seriously, the same as we do it now when we do more than one fic in a week.

Altogether I agree with >>42410174. These should always have been numbered with the rest of the club fics, so TBOAPW is 121.

Finally, as your baker, I apologize for messing up the numbering starting with 108/109 (The Sun and Little Fillies). That was the first thread after coming back from the bunker, and I messed it up.

>>42410112
Homeworld but the hiigarans are Equestrians

>>42408685
Why would he even respond? My company uses an internal chat, company email accounts, and if absolutely necessary the personal phone to communicate with me. I would not take some random DM from a BlueSky user seriously and would instead assume it's some Indian scammer trying to phish me.

>>42409716
Parentheses >imply the information is of lesser importance than commas or dashes do.

>>42410004
She's burned at the stake for plucking her eyelashes to try and look more like the stallions.

>>42410065
The Napoleon one sounds comfy.

>>42410065
When are we going to start seeing the Umamusumes in Equestria fics?

>>42410527
Soulless Japslop

Ponies are aliens stories with a language barrier is one of my favorite subgenres of fics. But its been a while since I've read a good one, got any new ish recommendations, preferably a complete story?

>>42410413
If the information can be removed then it is of lesser importance.

>>42409693
>>42409693
for what

>>42410126
I liked it for what it was, a cozy fantasy tale with talking animals. Redwall Abbey was an enjoyable setting, with a bunch of charming characters to latch onto. If I had to nitpick, I'd say that the last stretch of the book had weakest pacing. The story has an invisible time limit due to Cluny's encroaching army. The story also likes to add new characters, like the squirrel family and the sparrows and Basil, to add to the scope of the world and give you more characters to root for. These elements are fine, however, I feel as the shrews suffered this structure. They didn't really get a chance to shine compared to the other cast members due to being introduced so late. Also, I feel like Mattias and Warbeak's happened too fast. The timeline from bribed hostage situation and murder attempts to ride-or-dies felt too short for me. Still, the ending did leave me feeling all warm and fuzzy. If I had any kids, I would read this book together with them while doing fun voices. That being said, I don't feel compelled to read any of the remaining 21 books in the series.

If you ever feel like a fanfic is going off the rails just remember there's an actual published duology of novels about birds in the real world (a la Watership Down) that starts off with a war between bird factions, has rape babies and murder by the midpoint of the first book, and ends the second with a literal doomsday because humans set off a bomb that kills everyone in an attempt to stop the bug invasion that resulted from the bird underpopulation after the war in the first novel.

>>42409716
>Thankfully, no one had broken out her claws—you stole a glance at Adagio’s sisters—or teeth, yet.
>Thankfully, no one had broken out her claws (You stole a glance at Adagio’s sisters.) or teeth, yet.
These don't have the same feeling at all.

>>42409918
>>42410092
>they never delivered.
I'm super easily distracted, sorry! You should've pestered me about itt more. If you did it on two or three bookclubs, I'd probably get to updating it sooner!
Thanks for doing this, though! This is more online-readable than what I have. I'll post it anyway, and we can check if there are any inconsistencies. There could be some in the earlier parts—I was/am keeping count mostly out of my own curiosity. And the obvious caveat is that the views/updoots are what they were when I added them, not a real-time count.
This is the easiest way to share, I think, but there might be some jank involved:
https://cryptpad.fr/sheet/#/2/sheet/view/BPAGC8yEM5SXMm-tt+QER7p+jRWE3sTnyf6hftv9JYc/embed/
IIRC this link will self-destruct in a couple months, but it's good for now.

>>42410165
The "side fics" were not supposed to be counted according to the previous book club OP and some posters. That led to people ignoring them a lot, so I prefer to frame them as multiple stories per week, rather than a main+side story. IMO, everything that the bookclub read should get its own number to look nicer in lists like this one, but if more people decide otherwise, that's also fine.

I still wish the Mussolini with Cadance fic would update

>>42410981
>you can only word things a certain way and must do so
Actually unironically a massive skill issue and a key difference between a good writer and a mediocre one. Learn to word things better. Learn to actually structure your sentences to communicate what you want to say instead of relying on crutches and gimmicks. You're no better than someone spamming italics because they refuse to think the sentence they've written might be substandard.

>>42411142
The first version is fine. Dashes aren't crutches; they're tools that can elevate a sentence! Refusing to use them—
Honestly, instead of writing this argument, it was faster to look up and post picrel.

>>42410803
For the next alicorn adventures book. Because I just finished reading them all like 2 weeks ago.

Well it’s tomorrow and so far everyone wants the edited version, so I’ve posted it on the poneposte account I made (so i can actually update it in the future).

Link:
https://ponepaste.org/11255

>>42410253
Oh yeah, the whole sharty hack/dox thing and 4chan going down for a while, forgot it happened at that time.
And no need to apologize, it was a minor error that will be corrected by the time the next thread is made.
>>42411040
Thanks for posting this, I’ve linked it at the top of the new ponepaste as an alternative list with more information.

>>42411062

A man can dream.

>>42410963
If Brent Weeks can get published with that shit so can you

>>42411162
If your arguments look like this you may want to never write again.

>>42411521
How does one get published anyway? I can probably throw together an actual first draft. Do I need an agent or something?

>>42411566
Hell if I know. All I know about is videogame publishing and that's usually done by submission, them reaching out to you, or networking.

>>42411573
Well, look it up, anon. I'll be sure to make a reference to you when I'm famous.

>>42411588
Yeah, you basically need to get an agent to represent you.

>>42411566
Id guess your best bet in current year to get shit published would be to somehow self publish. The publishing industry is sectioned off, bureaucratic, and also still practices DEI. So its basically impossible unless you're already in and approved by the system because you have the right credentials and connections and traits and publishing safe normie slop.

>>42411671
lol

>>42411671
Got your HiE slop rejected, didn't you anon

>>42411671
As someone who self publishes: Lol. Lmao, even.

It's time for my annual week or two of remembering the kirin exist and hyperfixating on them until I forget about them for another year again. Any good kirin fics out there?

>talking to a guy about Fimfiction
>show each other our pages
>tell him he's probably never heard of me
>he has, actually
>he read the futa porn I wrote
kek

>>42412116
Futa or dickgirl?
There's a difference.

>>42412170
kek

>>42412198
If it's futa then hey you get a mare that fucks AND can get preggers.

>>42412170
Rope or shotgun?

>>42412170
I hate living in a universe where such a semantic distinction exists

>>42412170
I love living in a universe where such a semantic distinction exists

>>42412319
Well it is needed.
Dickgirls only have dicks and futa have dicks and pussies.
I will never let the incorrect usage go.

>>42412326
Maybe the government should stop paying for your food.

>>42412116
>I’ll show you mine if you show me yours
So did you fuck?

> le me
> Find a fimfic reading video entirely on accident.
> Le strange, but who am I to look a gift horse in the mouth?
> t's apparently about Nightmare Moon
> Hell yeah, that's like, my favorite character!! Sign me up!!
> The video is literally right there, so why bother searching FiMFic? I click.
> In mere seconds, I am disappointed.
> A man is voicing Nightmare Moon. Okay, not too many female FiMFic readers, makes sense. But this guy is clearly a Tranny. No thank you. You can go fuck yourself and goodbye. Do not pass GO, do not collect 2M.
> But worse is that there's a significantly more feminine voice DOING THE NARRATION. If that were the Nightmare Moon voice, I would not have batted an eye, but since the NMM voice IS a trannyfag, I can only assume either this voice is also a troonfag, or these readers are just fucking stupid.
> Huh, so that's why I bother with searching on FiMFic...
> Okay okay, it's fine. Idk what the story is about, but it has Nightmare Moon, so I can't just NOT read it, right? Easy, I just search on FiMFic.
> Le search.
> The entire piece, and whatever account posted it has been pruned.
> God mother-fucking damn it.
> My choices are:
> A) find an automated speech-to-text method that will put everything in a google docx so I don't have to listen to the disgusting troon voice
> B) Give up on what seems like a perfectly good Nightmare Moon story.
If you have any ideas, I'll take 'em, but I really just wanted to tell y'all because I thought it was funny. Thank you for reading my faggy blogpost.

>>42412575
Have you look on either of these? They are supposed to have deleted fics through your mileage may vary.
https://fimfetch.net/
https://foalfetch.net/

>>42412575
Foalfetch

>>42412116
So who ended up being Pistachio?

>>42412575
Just give us the fucking link so we can recover it from the archives you massive fucking retard.

LUS is bad but if you have a chance you refer to Pinkie as pink party pony, it's the rule. Perhaps even Pinkie Pie, Ponyville premiere pink party pony.

>>42412710
LUS is unironically hilarious. I won't forget one fic referring to Celestia as an 'alabaster alicorn' for as long as I live.

>>42412731
That's a lot of fics. Pretty sure I've done it at least once too.

>>42412710
Fics where the fic acknowledges that ponies find Pinkie's parties nice and that it's an underrated skill rather than making up some shit about how it's only parties that kids like and most of Equestria just sees her as insufferable?

>>42412743
Ponies loving Pinkie's parties is firm canon. Any other interpretation is a projection of human cynicism.

>>42412750
Yeah that part kind of annoyed me in a few fics. Like her entire point is being an almost supernatural social expert that's the divinely appointed embodiment of bringing forth joy. If Pinkie ended up in Hell she'd should know everyone's names, likes, and secrets within a week.

>>42412743
Every fucking fic ever? Wtf kind of HiE slop trash have you been reading, Nonny?

>>42412761
I think Empty Horizons has that. In general it feels like it didn't know what to do with Fluttershy and Pinkie besides turning her into a cripple.

>>42412710
I've grown to appreciate LUS's utility in establishing an unblemished setting.

>>42411040
>>42411357
The two lists aren't in sync, which kind of surprised me. The list hosted on Cryptpad has additional entries:
#8 Reading Rainbow
#16 Monument
#21 Circles
#26 Sunny Skies All Day Long
#40 Five Hundred Little Murders
#41 Whom the Princesses Would Destroy…
#75 Alarm Clock
There are no entries on the Ponepaste list that aren't on the Cryptpad spreadsheet.

Additionally, the order of some fics are swapped between the lists. I presume this is because they were done the same week. I don't think it's necessary to synchronize the lists this closely, but it was helpful for me to note these when comparing the lists:
#45 All the Mortal Remains and #46 The Piano Man
#63 Human in Equestria any% speedrun (kill Celestia ending) and #64 Lost Time
#65 Evil is Easy, Governing is Harder and #66 The Railway Ponies: Highball
#90 Rise and #91 Sundowner Season

>>42412788
You’re right. I remember reading several of those missing fics with the bookclub or otherwise lurking in the thread at the time they were read by the bookclub. I looked at the other list several times and somehow didn’t realize they were out of sync. I have no idea how I managed that.
Looking through desuarchive I see the posts that mention the fics I missed. I wasn’t checking every single fimfic op post or looking through the threads when I was making the list, rather just one of each op post that listed a given fic as the current one being read.
For the fics that are out of order between the two lists I’m going to keep them as I have them on ponepaste since I listed them as they were ordered on the op posts.

I’ve re-edited the list. If anyone notices any more errors or missing entities let me know.

https://ponepaste.org/11255

>>42412326
Sometimes I intentionally get it wrong just for you.

>>42412326
Which ones have balls?

>>42413209
It just means I have another excuse to remind people.
>>42413593
Both, though futa drawn in Japan where it originated mostly used to not include balls and the clit of a woman would turn into the dick. Over time they also drew separate dicks and pussies alongside balls probably due to western influence.
That and having a dick without balls is weird and eunuch-like.

>>42413657
but enough about you.

>>42413676
Wait, but I'm not a eunuc–Ohhh you, I see what you did there.

>>42413657
Old fetish porn was weird and ugly. Cartoon pornography has gotten a lot more refined and polished over the years. The rough edges milled away until what is left is something more removed from the material and more ideal. Same with everything else frankly.

Always remember that autistic people struggle to comprehend the idea that things might change while they're not observing them. They understand the concept of things having changed in the past, but it exists separately from the passage of time in the present in their minds. Autistic people will leave things to rot for years and believe they're still "new" because they have no concept of time affecting things.

>>42413690
>Tranime non-pony image

>>42413698
Welcome to 4chan, all reaction images are used here.

>>42413702
>could post a cute pony
>décide to post that instead

>>42413707
I'm an equal-opportunity employer of reaction images.
If I see an image that works, it gets selected.

>>42413702
Yeah, and you choose to repost the same 10 you every couple of months. That's boring.

>>42410655
Sounds like a a fun premise. HiE, can't understand a horsewords, pinkie makes it her mission to try and make you smile even as you're upset trying to get back to equestria and pinkie becomes some sort of haunting spectre like cranky doodle

>>42413709
>equal-opportunity
Funny, that's what I labelled my old yaoi doujin folder.

>>42413739
What can I say? Some work better than others and I have favourites.

>>42411566
Self publishing is unironically considered publishing nowadays. Anyone can just throw a book on amazon.

>>42412575
This post almost reads like a chatgpt generated greentext

>>42412731
asbestos alicorn

>>42413657
>the clit of a woman would turn into the dick
ah yes just like my favorite furry FTM tranny porn artist draws

>>42413789
I know, anon, but no one reads your stuff that way.

>>42413793
So that's how Daybreaker survives being on fire: She's made of asbestos.

>>42408866
I don't understand how stories balloon into nonsense, do people not plan what they're going to write before starting to write?

>>42413871
Planning is for losers.

The plight of the autistic writer.

>>42413871

They make a decently long fic with a good story, then have another idea but are too invested in their current fic. So they try to implement the other idea with the current one and it always, always fucks up the initial premise.

>>42413871
No, they very much do not. Or they find people guessing what they foreshadowed and change things.

>>42413871
I'll have you know my nonsense is thoroughly planned. My brain is just built like that.

>>42413901

I love being a loser if it means my shit stays on course.

>>42414023
I've caught myself doing this before then I remind myself that it's retarded and stick to the outline

Sometimes I wish I could balloon things into nonsense and write a longer story.

>>42414050
Good on you, Anon. Good on you.

>>42414048
Fics for losers that at least stay on course?

>>42414095
All fics are for losers.

>>42414062
>Noooo my fic is concise and concluded!
What a weird thing to be insecure about.

>>42414127
It's okay, anon, size doesn't matter when you bottom.

>>42414131
Do you really want a million word autism self insert fic?

>>42414131
The cuter the cock, the sweeter the boimilk.
>VNR

>>42414135
Too many of them only want million word autism self insert fics, otherwise it won't be looked at.

>>42414170
What about a wholesome vore fic

We talked about this already
You find your niche (pregnancy, adoption, unfinished schizo rambling) and you STAY there.

>>42413871
It's extremely common for lower-tier writers to just "wing it". They're not treating the story as some large literary work, they're just posting their shitpost thoughts in real time, sometimes with editing per-chapter. (Most lower-tier writers don't have editors or pre-readers, either.)
Shit, most of skirts's writing was written on the go, afaik. Certainly the entirety of easthorse was. Presumably he planned out the overarching plots at least, but then skirts for all his flaws is pretty good at being an entertaining writer, so I wouldn't even call him low tier. Imagine skirts but with 5x less innate storytelling skill and maybe somewhat lower IQ and self-awareness too, there's your average shovelware fanfic author. Wait, also add a 50% chance for them to be underage, sometimes severely.

>>42414191
You make it sound like being underage is a condition one can catch, which is sadly not the case.

>>42414187
No, that's garbage advice that will lead to you making artistically poor slop.

>>42414243
Yeah but it'll put food on the table.

>>42414243
Slop is good sometimes. Especially when it comes to clop. I don't want to read 50shades of gray, I want to read >10k word hot mare Yuri

>>42414243
I slip out of my niche sometimes and every time I do, it gets blind sided by HiE slop even if I think it's better than what I normally do.

>>42414243
50% chance that you're responding to the adoption anon himself.

Why is this general so gay

>>42414258
It's more populous than many, and the faggots in any community are always both extremely loud and prone to circlejerking.

>>42414267
literal livestreamed circlejerk next galacon or riot

>>42414250
50 Shades is less than slop though. It's known garbage.

Fics for driving in my car right after a beer?

>>42414361
Go the the front page and choose the one with the most dislikes that isn't smut.

>>42414243
You're not an underappreciated genius we've been over this.

>>42414249
No you won't
source: estee

>>42414646
Estee is a dumbass who gets paid per chapter through Patreon instead of doing per word commissions with Patreon as a side dish.

>>42414062
The first fanfic I wrote was several tens of thousands of words, many chapters, and yet not a lot had happened. I was surprised with how long it was. I genuinely struggle to write a fraction of what I once wrote, breadthwise, but the prose is miles better.

The longest works in the English language are weird fanfics written by children. Length is meaningless after a point.

>>42414703
>written by children
*manchildren

>>42414703
I've always wondered how people can pad out stories over 10s of thousands of words. I can usually get most character arcs completed in a very concise manner with plenty of details about the setting, the characters feelings and motivations in under 20k words

>>42414714
I don't know either, my longest fic planned is that long because it's them going to multiple locations after location. You basically have something in arcs.

>>42414721
Like multiple arcs stitched together that generally coalesce into one singular arc?

>>42414187
>unfinishd schizo rambling
Name one fic.
>>42414258
It’s far from the gayest threads on this board. *couch* popen *cough* rgre * cough* transformation *cough* tamers.
>>42414714
They do it by not caring about quality.

>>42414756
Yeah, it's a space adventure fic with an ultimate destination and some interludes between places, but even then I expect it to be pretty lean.

>>42414799
>Name one fic
Behemoth.
>>42414714
This is just a silly take. There's plenty of novels out there. You might just be bad at writing.

>>42414859
I haven’t read that but i can tell by intuition and common sense that there is not real schizo rambling in there.

>re-read parts of a fic I thought I liked years ago
>fic isn’t nearly as good as I remember it being.

>>42415577
>re-read fic I read
>it's as good as I remember it being

>>42415649
>re-read fic I read
>I gain new appreciation for it was doing

>>42415649
>re-read fic I read
>it's as good as I remember it being
>i remember it being not good at all

>>42415577
>re-read parts of a fic I wrote
>fic isn't nearly as good as I remember it being

>>42413871
The main issue is serial writing, which causes a story get get locked down a certain path that can veer way off track over the years. If fic authors wrote the whole story before posting, they could avoid it by going back and editing things to tighten the story down.

>>42414187
No. I'm sticking with my policy of "write the story you've always wanted to read". It hasn't failed me yet at keeping me excited to write.

>>42414799
>Name one fic.
That's easy. Mandark's.

>>42415943
>mandark’s fic.
Not a real schizo fic. That was just garbage.

>>42415993
Horselover Fat's Brony Convention fic then.

>>42415943
> If fic authors wrote the whole story before posting, they could avoid it by going back and editing things to tighten the story down.
This, I can't tell you how many times I've rewriten sections because one little tweak in the story makes a previous scene suddenly not make sense. I'd hate to be locked in to one story because I already released the previous section despite a better storyline presenting itself

Remember that the anthology deadline is at the end of the month.

>>42416570
Technically, it's at the start of next month.

>>42416570
I can't find the link to the group so I'll say here that I'm ducking out.
I can't think of jack shit to write for it and I'm focused on other stuff.

>>42416647
Technically time is a non-standardizable variable dependent upon one's position and velocity as one travels through the cosmos.

>>42416570
Can we just admit that nobody seems interested this year?

>>42416675
>multiple people sign up
>they talk about it ITT
>there's nothing to show yet because it'll all be collected later anyway
Falseflag harder.

>>42416656
>time is subjective bro
>it’s an illusion bro, there is no “time” everything just already is.
>if you’re five minutes late to work you’re fired goy

>>42416853
You guys have jobs?

>>42417150
Thanks for reminding me to redraft my résumé.

>>42417150
This board is divided between software engineers making 140k, elite aspirants with useless degrees currently wageslaving, and NEETs that will kill themselves once the government goes bankrupt and they lose their neetbux.

>>42417361
I'm somewhere between all three.

>>42417150
I live off royalties, does that count

>>42417729
Somebody on /fimfic/ made something worth paying royalties for? I don’t believe it.

>>42417763
Well it's not from writing, it's from software.

Posting a list of books from my read and read later list that I think are good or seem good in hopes that they get added to the list of fics to vote on and we can continue to read better fics as we have been doing recently.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/54117/whom-the-princesses-would-destroy
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/363036/drifting-down-the-lazy-river
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/578541/under-rolling-stars
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/389502/numbers
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/41313/mood-wings
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/50795/the-youth-in-the-garden
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/380853/sleeping-habits
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/489381/twilight-takes-a-dna-test
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/478054/lavender-screen-of-death
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/540023/grimbush
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/45828/in-celestia-we-trust-all-others-pay-cash
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/395066/this-is-a-stick-up
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/350807/twilight-sparkle-lays-an-egg
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/386671/the-lazy-dragon-of-dragonvale
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/1844/a-simpler-time
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/140441/of-lilies-and-chestnuts
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/378154/necromancy-for-foals
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/201940/the-guardian-of-the-night
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/22535/better-living-through-science-and-ponies
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/70781/a-wake-of-mist-and-flame
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/6007/the-flight-of-the-alicorn
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/289853/buggy-and-the-beast
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/99526/her-majestys-secret-service
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/111005/wise-beyond-her-years
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/525950/the-jeandlicieux

>>42417778
Buggy and the Beast's a good one. Also works concurrently with the Pinkie Pie one he did (I think they take place in the same continuity at least).

>>42417768
So I was right. Where’s my correct about everything again award?

>>42417797
I withheld it until you finish your part of the anthology.

>>42416449
>>42415943
Can confirm. Halfway through my fourth chapter, I came up with a neat callback that required me reworking stuff on my first chapter, but now it's much more solid.

>someone finally translated that one hentai epilogue I'd been waiting for for years
Never give up hope, Anon.

>>42416570
Yes, it haunts me already.

>>42416652
Damn. Better luck next time, I guess.

>>42416675
I'm trying, damn it.

>>42416853
They always argue about definitions whenever it suits them, don't they?

>>42418301
I wish it would hunt you instead.

Are there surrealist fanfics?

>>42416675
You know perfectly well that everyone itt will procrastinate until the last 12 hours to even mention the thing.

>>42419073
Except that during the last one I and another anon were done within 3 days of the starting point.
This one just doesn't have the right oomph.

>>42419030
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/94355/what-if-socks-didnt-work-orally
And stories by tailspony i guess
https://www.fimfiction.net/user/34633/tailsopony

I also remember reading this story where Twilight was replaced and she had to prove that she's the real one, and in the process she begins to doubt that she's, in fact, real. But it wasn't like one of those Pinkie Pie clone stories, that one was very surrealist. But i just can't remember what it was called

>>42419073
Ironic, isn't it?

Hi, people! It’s August 1st, and that means I finally, finally have an update regarding Hold Your Horsewords. And that update is...

It’s actually done, 280 pages later! Somewhat anticlimactically. Thanks for bearing with me for so long. To tell the truth, the actual “book” part of the book was done about a week and a half ago, but I wanted to put together a nice cover. The whole thing could have probably been finished a month ago if I had more discipline. Sorry for stringing you all along like this!

Here’s a link to the PDF of it: https://files.catbox.moe/maqtxf.zip

I’ll post a link on Monday to a storefront on Lulu.com where you can order a physical copy, but I wanted to give people the chance to look at it over the weekend and suggest any last-minute revisions with how their fics are typeset. A word of warning: I haven’t had the chance to order a proof myself, so I can’t *guarantee* it’ll be free of errors, but I’ve had good experiences with Lulu before, and I promise I followed all their guidelines precisely. The listed price should be $8.63 plus shipping.

As a reminder, I do plan to sell some copies of the book at Mare Fair (not for profit, of course, just for the sake of reaching a wider audience). I’ll work out how much each costs plus shipping, round up to the nearest $5 increment, then give the excess income to charity once everything’s said and done. However, if you want your rightful 1/8 share of the expected 50 cents of profit from each of probably fewer than a dozen sales, then speak now or forever hold your peace.

And that should be everything! Sorry for the silence over the last few months, but you know how it is, not wanting to share anything until it’s just right, and before you know it the whole thing’s done anyway. I hope you all enjoy seeing your fics all prettied-up and stuff. Thanks again for contributing your work to this little project.

>>42419165
And why the hell the tripcode is different, I'm not certain, but posting from a different IP is probably it.

>>42419165
Me on the lower right.

Somebody dare me to do something stupid such as telling everyone we should all apply at the same time to write to write the quests for an mmorpg in order to overwhelm the amount of writers for their quests and make the autistic jealous we can actually write and they can't. Supposedly you can create your own OCs, they don't give a fuck if you add new characters specifically for a quest and the requirements and standards are very chill.

https://www.legendsofequestria.com/contact

You also don't need to know programming. The quests are quick and easy since they're pure dialogue with no visual cues and don't require you to write novels unless you want to write the book lores in the game.

>>42419165
Nice work. I'll try to doublecheck my stories over the weekend.

>As a reminder, I do plan to sell some copies of the book at Mare Fair (not for profit, of course, just for the sake of reaching a wider audience).
Cool. I'll have to buy my copy in person, in that case. I always thought about selling a book with my works at a convention, but I'm not delusional enough to think that would be a good idea, and it's awesome that you're doing this.

>I’ll work out how much each costs plus shipping, round up to the nearest $5 increment, then give the excess income to charity once everything’s said and done.
Cool. Make it a horse charity, like Mare Fair itself does.

>>42419197
Given the thread's demographics, wouldn't an AIDS charity be more fitting?

>>42419227
Maybe, but I don't donate to AIDS charities.

>>42419240
Why do you want your waifu to pass on HIV to your son?

>>42419181
I've written enough quests in my time that I'd never want to do it as a hobby.

>>42419165
I'll take the plunge and order one copy, then report back.

>>42419170
They changed the master secret after the Sharty hack, so pre- and post-hack secure tripcodes don't match.

>>42419332
They did? Where?

>>42419480
In 4chan.

>>42419165
>start reading my story at random
>come across a passage where it's clear what I meant, but the text should've been clearer
>in my most-read story on the entire website
Damn, it's so insignificant, but the old saying is true: Artists can look at their work and only see the mistakes.

>>42419484
But where? Where in this 4chan?

>>42419607
MINI-04, I'd guess.

>>42419128
According to >>41561000, there were five people who took 3 days or less. Plus, I remember that some of the other participants said they needed about the same amount of working time but weren't able to start work immediately because of jobs, travel, cons, that sort of thing. So I think it's plausible that nobody starts on their fics until the week before the deadline and yet we still end up with a completed anthology on time.

I read four starscribe HIE fics like two years ago and I can confidently say that they were the most ok fics I have ever read.

>>42416675
I got the last "punchline" scene written. Now I just have to write the rest of the absurdist comedy oneshot.

>>42419132
>can't remember what it was called
Solitary Locust. The author posted a chapter that fully confirmed she was a changeling and not the real Twilight but everyone hated it since that was the central premise of the fic and it was instead turning into full misery porn about a mentally deranged changeling so he deleted the chapter and it become a deadfic instead.

>>42419165
>give the excess income to charity
You giving it to that horse rescue?

>>42419763
It could have been the Fiddlebottom fic too.

Shame about Forthwith.

>>42420237
What about?

>>42419763
>>42419030
>Solitary Locust
No, that's not it. I found it, >>42420072 was right. It's "Twilight Derealized". I'm not sure i correctly remember the plot, it's been a long time since i read it.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/96802/twilight-derealized

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/525950/the-jeandlicieux

This fic started of decent and went down the shitter quickly. I dropped it by the fourth chapter. First chapter was decent and the Luna segment in it was quite endearing to her, but after that it gradually descended into absolute HIE slock. It felt like it was written by an autistic teen by the time I dropped it. I cannot recommend this.

Fics with wabes?

>>42407511
Same here. I think there is something perverse about the first few long fics you read. Your awareness of them suggests that they are probably very good fics, so they easily exceed your expectations of them being crappy fan fiction. You end up autistically latched to them. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if I read the fics I read this year in my first year instead.

>>42407681
>>42407700
Linux: Shift, AltGr, hyphen, hyphen, full stop
Windows: Windows button, full stop, then click in the menu.
Apple: Remove penis from mouth, like left testicle slowly, praise the moon god.

>>42408600
>good faith bullet points
Is there such a thing? I try my best to avoid them and fail spectacularly.

>>42408690
Nobody does it like that any more.Learn to compose key or emoji keyboard.

>>42408726
Anon, where did you even learn this stuff? I used to write everything in LaTeX, but this is the first time that I've heard of non-breaking spaces.

>maths
Oh, an Englishman.

>>42408799
Such typing was common on MSN and RuneScape. That was years before Twitter. We used to say "kk" for "okay". Faster typing was considered more important than clarity of communication.

>>42420554
En dash is Option -, and em dash is Shift Option -. It's easier to make proper dashes on a Mac than any other platform I know of—which may be why I always find myself using them.

>>42408951
I am so glad about this. It helped cure my oneitis.

>>42409548
Odds of this actually progressing the myth arc?

>>42413697
What do you mean anon? All of my high school friendships are strong. We just haven't spoken in years.

>>42413797
You've met Astrid in the forest more than twice, I know.

>>42419197
>it's awesome that you're doing this.
Thanks! It feels a little more legitimate when you have many people's work together compared to just one person's.

>You giving it to that horse rescue?
Yeah.

>>42420933
If we catch something that should be changed, how do we tell you? DM to your Fimfiction alt maybe?

>>42419593
>oh woe is me, I, the purple prose pregnancy fetish porn writer, am a misunderstood artiste

>>42419763
Sexual Locust > Solitary Locust

>>42421023
Solitary locust is an oxymoron anyway since locusts are not a species but rather a biological state of a different animal achieved only when there's too many of them.

>>42421019
>purple prose pregnancy fetish porn write
Come on now, you can alliterize that better.

>>42420576
In this thread, ironically. I think I was looking up style guides to win some argument. Apparently in real typography saying e.g. 10km is incorrect, it needs a space i.e. 10 km, but for obvious reasons a line break between the number and unit would look awful hence the non-breaking space.
Apparently French uses "narrow non-breaking spaces" between ? and ! signs. Have you ever seen French people write their sentences with a space before the question mark ? Well it's a typographic shortcut, it's normally supposed to be narrower than a full space.

>>42420559
Not in normal prose, but in technical contexts it can definitely make sense to organise stuff into bullet points. There's a reason LLMs are trained to do it, for example. It helps with clarity and structure, at the expense of well-formed prose.
LLMs just tend to really overdo it, always trying to shoehorn a list of 3-4 bullet points into every answer, argument or statement they try to make.

>>42421032
I am making a scathing remark here in the hopes of starting an argument, not writing poetry

>>42421044
>LLMs just tend to really overdo it
I've been on /CHAG/ for over a year and the only times I've seen bullet points have been when asking a mindbroken Coloratura the tracklist for her next sexually themed album, so I really have no idea what the fuck you're saying.

>>42421047
You can write poetry and start an argument.

>>42421057
Fine, let me clarify: public chatbox LLMs fine-tuned to function as assistants tend to overdo it.
Obviously it's a feature of the fine-tuning - it's not like there's anywhere near this amount of egregiously bullet-pointed training material for them to learn it naturally. An LLM fine-tuned for character RP will likely not do it, and if you use a raw model locally it will just autocomplete starting from whatever prompt or tuning you add to it. But most people, when they use an LLM, they use the default online version of chatgpt (or maybe claude or gemini) which has been specifically tuned into a Q&A assistant persona, and this tuning invariably includes a heavy bias towards overzealously organising their thoughts into bullet points. Among other quirks, like explicitly adding "Problem:" and "Solution:" headings, always summarizing and repeating what they said in a conclusion, frequently referring back to the initial question everywhere in their answer rather than just explaining something normally, etc.

>>42420559
* Organizing your response makes it easier to read.
* Bullets encourage clear, concise writing.
* Three bullets is about as much as ordinary people can withstand.
* By the fourth one, they've usually bled out.

>>42420419
Anon found the secret invite two threads ago. We can only assume evil will come.

>>42421044
>Have you ever seen French people
no

>>42421004
That's fine, or you can just post it in the thread with my name and I'll see it.

>>42421069
You seem to not know the difference between fine-tuning and system prompts.

>>42421082
>French
>people
By definition, you cannot see something that is both.

>>42421121
What gave you that impression?
Most leaked "assistant" prompts don't explicitly mention things like organising your thoughts into bullet points btw, which is why I'm assuming it probably comes from the fine-tuning phase.

>>42421134
People on /CHAG/ mainly access raw models (Latte, Opus, Sonnet, Gemini, Kimi, Chimera, 4.5, Horizon recently), which are theoretically the same models behind official interfaces, just with filters on. None of them are fine-tuned for rp either way.

>>42421141
>which are theoretically the same models behind official interfaces, just with filters on
I'm not super up to date with the latest tech but I'm 99% sure the official chat interface models are, in fact, fine-tuned. Or at least this used to be true at some point.
Maybe fine-tuning for RP doesn't exist (I assumed maybe character.ai or similar interfaces might have invested into making their own fine-tunings, but maybe not?) but my main point would be the absence of an "assistant" tune.

In a contest of getting from point A to point B without restrictions, Applejack is the second slowest of the M6.

>>42421082
You have to leave the major cities in order to find them.

>>42421149
NTA, but they aren't finetuned, they just have gigantic system prompts like this:
https://github.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/blob/main/OpenAI/GPT-4.5.md
/chag/ just access the same models without those prompts, and they can also write their own.
They can change some settings too.

>>42421032
That little star getup is so cute.

>>42421032
Pregnancy-porn penman peddling purple-prose prenatal perversions.

>>42421270
It's to Contain her.

>>42421377
Unf

Fics where Flurry's a major character and tolerable at the minimum?

>>42421468
Skyla Pseudonym and MiaB

>>42421468
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/344673/poneo-and-fillyet

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/581135/constantellation

Wrote a new fic about a moon horse.

>>42421196
And go to Canada?

The urge to write a fic wherein at some point Sunset (canonically a streamer) is heard going "It's the dles, people, it's the dles" while she's live.

>>42421709
You have to leave the major cities in Canada to find the Canadians too

>>42421964
Damn Chinese grandparents in their cybertrucks running all over Vancouver.

I can't believe Cloudflare killed Knighty.

I'm going to start making "brillig" a regular part of my vocabulary.

I need more cozy glow fics. However they must be of good quality.

That Chrysalis fic in the feature box for the past couple of days doesn't seem AI generated to me, but the author's comments are written like a 14 year old. Run-on sentences, barely any punctuation, shitty mistakes, all completely unlike the smooth and correct English in the story. Am I just getting too old to notice when someone uses an LLM to write their prose?

>>42422864
>I need more bad fics
>However they must be good

>>42422867
That's just what happens when you're proofreading or have an editor.

>>42422864
Have some patience: >>42407338

THEY'RE BACK
>Choose a fanfic to animate

>>42419769

>>42422971
And nothing will come of it.