So here I am edition
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bjnYkfLzdY
OLD THREAD:
>>42359446Pony maps, sprays, and micspam!
Reskinned vanilla maps (with mares) by our very own anons!
Come relive the heyday of pony TF2 with your friends from /mlp/!
Visit our official website to check out the server info from your browser: https://mlp.tf/
>Server infoServer IP: tf2.15.ai OR 74.91.123.131:27015
Password: check filename
Steam group: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/mlptf2_
Map downloads (extract the .bz2 file, then place the .bsp file in /tf/download/maps): http://mlp.site.nfoservers.com/server/maps/
Download demos from matches (request demos in the thread): http://mlp.site.nfoservers.com/server/demos/
Active hours: 7-9pm to 12-4am EDT (32-64 players)
Custom MvM also available for early hours (42 player limit) and other gamemodes like Death Run or VSH for after-hours.
This server uses a plugin that changes the stats of some weapons. See https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2717299 for more info. All reverts except for the old airblast are active by default, and most reverts can be toggled in-game.
Consider installing mastercomfig if you have frequent frame drops, bad hitreg, poor network connectivity, or are new to the game. See https://mastercomfig.com/ for easy installation. It is STRONGLY recommended that all players install some preset of mastercomfig since TF2's default netcode settings have not been changed since 2007.
THERE IS NO DISCORD SERVER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THREAD. Any post mentioning "the /mlp/ TF2 Discord" is a troll and should be ignored.
/vg/-style chatroom-posting and gayposting is OFF-TOPIC and should be reported as such.
No one is judged for being new to the game, and skill level across the playerbase varies.
Join the fun!
>>42410384 (OP)>GuidesWebsite for making in-game sprays: https://rafradek.github.io/Mishcatt/
Micspam guide: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39428553/#q39430287
Guide to adding pony models to any map: https://ponepaste.org/9223
Pony mod collection: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/37462569/#37462590
Pony model replacements with voiceovers: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39697428/#39701005
Pony war paint texture mods collection: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39788496/#q39796303
Having trouble with sprays showing up in-game? Put the following in the developer console: https://u.smutty.horse/mfwtrwijazh.txt
Getting error signs instead of pony models? Download them manually here: https://github.com/EtraIV/SpawnPony (place the materials folder into /tf/download).
>Videos and content/mlptf2/ videos playlist (highlights, karaoke nights, Anon Fridays, etc.): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlaewUctCKsJqnVcSDf3d9oIBSpewUQsO
/mlptf2/ intro: https://u.smutty.horse/maqwtlmafwl.mp4
/mlptf2/ New Years (2023 edition): https://u.smutty.horse/mlakpjgcooh.mp4
/mlptf2/ 2-year anniversary: https://youtu.be/4fzG-WLKIyc
/mlptf2/ 3-year anniversary: https://youtu.be/e269nQZnqcY
RGL Highlander S17 Week 4 Amateur HOOFLANDER vs PHD Floppa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8J8dEQdsIQ
HOOFLANDER vs PHD Floppa (RGL HL S17 Grand Finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKdwINfnIy0
ART ANCHOR POST
The next OP mare is Rarity. Reply to this with your art if you want to have it voted on as being the next thread's OP art.
thoughts? 15 might add these soon.
https://castaway.tf/reverts.html
>>42410403but what about the admin message in the server?
>>42410407What admin message.
>>42410398>reverted natascha If this is the one with the infinite range max slow then it'll be the most powerful weapon and the negroknighters will seethe
>>42410398We should at least scrap item set bonuses, since this essentially makes the game pay-to-win and may force people to use items that wouldnโt normally go well together. Iโm also pretty certain that it may be nearly impossible to do certain things that were deleted from the game.
>>42410426The page literally said no hats required
>>42410426>>42410430Yeah, the set bonuses only count the weapons with the plugin.
>>42410430>>42410439Please do not respond to aoou
>>42410466If the jannies refuse to ban him, what will I accomplish if I listen to you?
>>42410430>>42410439But it isnโt exactly like the weapons are necessarily free either.
>>42410398stuff like reverted natashcha would make me genuinely want to play less but if this is what people what its whatever, was looking forward to trying the server without any of the overtuned loadouts
even reverting stock weapons like minigun just feels weird
>>42410659we can just disable the natascha plugin-side
>>42410676I concur
>>42410398Also this reverted Screen looks like a straight downgrade unless it's the version that can shield bash regardless of distance
Other than that looks like almost identical weapon loadout that already demoknight has it's disposal in the server without plugin
>>42410688They revert the shield bash mechanic as well.
>>42410659The source code says the old natascha needs to hit consecutively to reach maximum stun speed. So the slowdown is actually weaker than the modern natascha.
>>42410691this shits too much to keep track of I just wanna play tf2 not this weird mod stuff
>>42410398What about being able to use the Bonk with no downsides whatsoever?
>>42410398>warriors spirit losing its 30% damage vulnerability>steak vulnerability reduced from 20% to 10%melee heavyCHADS will be feasting holy shit
>>42410398my thoughts?
DO NOT.
>>42410398are they all toggleable by individual players? I don't like weapons being changed and not being able to use the normal version
>>42410417I shall name mine 'fuck your reverted bullshit.' and use it at every minor inconvenience.
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>>4241072915 ADD THIS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>42410729>>42411114At last, a worthy opponent!
>>42410369those servers are more dead then this one if /mlp/ drops reverts there will be nowhere for me to play with them anymore
>>42411252we're not dropping reverts, we're just replacing our buggy 4 years unupdated plugin with a fresh new one that gets weekly updates
>>42411854Itโs one thing to do this on a server like Bad Weapon Rehabilitation where the theme revolves around trying to balance the game more, but it is another thing to do this on a server where the central theme is playing with fellow bronies. Maybe I could see us doing this on a couple of custom maps or reserving some time out of the week to test out weapon rebalances, but Iโm against having this serverโs weapon stats across all maps (or at least those that support weapon mods) be in constant flux.
>>42411898this
/mlptf2/ is basically the only way I play the game now I don't want it too wacky
>>42411898why didn't you say this 4 years ago when we permanently enabled reverts
>>42411942But this has nothing to do with weapon reverts. Even if I were playing on the server that long ago, I probably wouldnโt have agreed to having our weapon stats be in constant flux like this.
Maybe I could see an alternative being having multiple servers where people play with fixed weapon stats and people play with and/or test new balance changes, but if we donโt regularly get a high enough player count, I donโt see this being a possibility.
>>42411854well then there's only one thing to say about that.
I am going to rape many a asshole with a Natasha. you. will. regret. this.
Why does everyone think we're going to have EVERY revert option enabled?
We have certain ones turned on by default, others turned off by default, and others still that you can pick which version you want to use. It would be no different with the Castaway plugin.
>>42411968Many of the reverted items we use are ones that are universally agreed to have been terrible decisions by Valve for the sake of placating competitive faggotry. Ambassador, Dragon's Fury, Bonk!, GRU, etc.
>>42412013I have problems with certain reverts for certain weapons, but my main qualm is with having the reverts themselves be subject to constant change that we have no control over. Again, this is pony TF2, not Bad Weapon Rehab.
>>42412017Itโs one thing to try to placate a group of 6v6 or Highlander players to try to get around an arbitrary series of weapon bans that exist to support formats with arbitrary sets of rules, but it is another thing to make a conscious effort to make certain weapons unfun to play against.
>>42412013I remenber when Reserve Shooter was unreverted
Good times, I was happier then
>>42412013I don't trust people to have a good idea of what to revert and what not
it has very little to do with making overnerfed weapons viable again, people just use whatever can completely carry them given the opportunity, which inevitably overshadows the rest of the classes kit. see loch, dr, etc. If a revert isn't busted it goes largely unused, and if it is, nobody uses anything else in that slot
TF2 Update.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/249654/
>>42410696Yeah cuz hitting people with the minigun is soooo hard lol
am i the only one that doesnt give a shit about the weapons at all? i dont care about the "meta" i don't care about what is good. i just hop on to play with funny pony frens.
>>42412522Actual gameplay is the main advantage of playing on this server in comparison to gmares and openpony
>>42412070I remember when reserve shooter mini-crit people who are just standing on the ramp.
Good time
>>42412736>Good timeNo, not good times
>>42412746Any time my enemy suffers is a good time
>>42410398god i hope they remove all reverts
alright hop on its tf2 time
password hasnt updated btw
Anyone is excited for Zootopia 2?
>>42412900hoping the porn is good
>>42412946You unemployed fags only get on when it's time to go to bed >:C
>>42412953fucking this I go to bed around 7pm est because I work at 3am and I basically never get to play on this server cuz it's always dead when I am awake
Please sire, I require the new password
>>42412917it's only one S
>>42412968Same here, anon...
>>42413499I love you too dashie
>>42412968>>42413595Then why not try doing more MvM matches on the server for people from Europe and eastern North America?
>>42413637i dont think mvm is fun without the chance of a decent reward at the end, tbdesu
you are a gambling addict
>>42414383ok tony soprano
i had a dream last night that the letters after the "iwtci" part of the password were ridiculously long and confusing. the character was some sort of sphinx looking pony thing.
please make this a reality.
Anon! Anon! I would be so happy to see you in my day, which is today! I'll be waiting for you to hop on.
I got alcohol and a need to play vidya, please hop on tonight bros
I'm tired and need to have sex, please hop on tonight bros
I'm gay and really want to gayerp hop on tonight bros
>>42415438>>42415436>>42415417>says that he wants to hop ondoes not hop on
For some reason the server keeps restarting over and over whenever marewater setup timer reaches 20 seconds left
>>42415496Sourcemod is outdated. Ask 15 to get off his goon chair and fix it.
>>42415472You wish because then you'd only need to suck one dick
>>42415496Server has been updated with the new Castaway reverts plugin
https://castaway.tf/reverts.html
>>42415520YOU. WILL. REGRET. THIS.
rocket launcher icons are fixed guys yay
>>42415529The default setting is rather conservative and disable most of them.
>>42415520holy shit item sets like saharan spy are back
Full List of the Current Reverts: https://pastebin.com/CGVi6e1X
>>42415657>Not using ponepaste
>>42415665Legit didn't even know that was a thing.
i am once again asking what the password is. everything i've put through is a bad password.
>>42415670Use last thread's
>15 on server
>Literally doing nothing about the DDoSer
Your server owner, mares and stallions.
>>42415657>[SM] Player 99FF99THE RCMP is connectingLol
>>42415657can you toggle them
>>42415735I look through the souce code and they get rid of the toggleable revert option.
I hope you enjoy the garbage short circuit.
>>42415779that really sucks if it can't happen, effectively removes a lot of weapons
who is the dude the ddoser talking about? andrew shepard?
>>42415532It still gives a small number of people the ability to make Special Delivery scouts have more health or grant near-invincibility to Bonk scouts.
>>42415792We probably should have a vote on which reverts to have or not. Personally I'd prefer to have the "Live" version of the YER.
>>42415894Or how about we have an option to disable the reverts on ourselves? The reverted DR without any speed boost means I may have to completely change how I play spy just for this server.
>>42415934That's not supported with this plugin. It would require one of us to code it.
>Ponepaste has an asstarded spamfilter that basically pushes you to register to bypass
Anywho, here's suggestions for which reverts the server ought to have enabled. If it's not on this list, then the weapon is as it is in normie TF2.
https://pastebin.com/vxEaz3B4
>>42415937can't we just ctrl+c ctrl+v the code from the previous one
or ask AI to add it
>>42415946And the list of reverts from the github for reference: https://github.com/rsedxcftvgyhbujnkiqwe/castaway-plugins/wiki/Weapon-Revert-List
>>42415937Then why not just go back to the old, old plugin where rockets did explosive damage instead of backstab damage? What is keeping us from looking for an older version of the plugin we used to use?
>>42415961>why don't we just use a completely oudated version of the old plugin won't it just work fine despite being hideously out of date and incompatible with the chances to TF2 since it came out
>>42415961I like the new plugin, it has way more changes and it fixed the rocket launcher bug we've been playing with for months. The only bad thing is you can't individually disable reverts but eh whatever I'll live with it
>>42415962Yea this the server literally plays better from hitboxes to reaction, shooting feels way cleaner. Old plugin was probably holding up the entire srbr.
>>42415962Except this new plugin is broken, too. For example, the DR still removes half of oneโs cloak when decloaking.
>>42415962That's because 15 didn't update the other plugins yet.
Now that he did. the older revert plugin should work fine now.
>>42416025Then I fully expect the older version to be up and running within the next couple of days.
>ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHpdgHTINik
>>42416033Again, this is pony TF2, not Bad Weapon Rehab. If we want to do rebalancing, we should probably either have another server for it or not do it at all.
>>42416030The server is still using 6 months out of date sourcemod though. Tell 15 to fix that shit immediately.
>>42416035ok shut the fuck up any one of us you're pissing a lot of people off do you want to get muted again
>>42415975Huh now that you mention it my aim did feel a lot better tonight
>>42415657please disable the wrangler, it's already OP enough, we don't need it to be sigafoo save viable
as for the natascha, nobody's used it against me tonight so I don't know how strong it is, but it should probably be disabled, too. everybody hates that thing.
everything else looks great!
>>42416072Am aware, Wrangler is not one of the weapons I suggested to be reverted in
>>42415946
>>42416072natascha doesn't use the older slowdown unless 15 explicitly enables it.
>Reserve Shooter - Reverted to pre-toughbreak, minicrits all airborne targets for 5 sec after deploying, 15% faster weapon switch
PyroCHADS rejoice, the server is currently using the reserve shooter variant where it mini-crit 90% of the time.
>>42416133Now we just need the original Airblast physics back and it'll be Total Pyro Domination.
>>42416133ok yeah disable that too pls. pyro shouldn't be able to minicrit you just because you jumped.
>>42416133Guess I will have to remove the pyro menace then
Will have to fight cancer with cancer
Thanks 15 for the plugin, tonight was fun. I feel the server needed some changes to keep it from going too stale.
>>42416289It sounds like this is something youโd be interested in doing more so on occasion than all the time. Is this correct?
>>42416401Yes any one of us
>>42416401No any one of us
>>42416401maybe any one of us
>>42416072I think this applies to a lesser extent to some other weapons like rescue ranger, loch and jag. Already good weapons that don't get actual reworks from the revert, just stat buffs which push them from a decent choice to overshadowing the other items in the slot, something to be avoided I think
some items just get complete reworks that are much less fun than modern tf2 imo such as persian persuader and splendid screen, would be fine if there was a toggle
>>42416072I will try harder to make your lives hell. and by harder, I mean, try to stay on later so I dont miss you next time.
>>42417095Time to get gud with the Loch
>>42417130I went against a few of the posters last night, soda popper, bfb + crit cola, lochs and axetinguishers.
it didnt save them.
this is honestly so fucked up and something needs to change. the reverted natascha is so broken, cake completely ruined my experience by abusing it last night. please disable natascha revert.
>>42417095why is it always the people who complain the most who abuse the most broken items
>>42417253>implying I haven't been bitching about this for years and only now have chosen to gone nuclear about reverted bullshit so now you care?
>>42417224it's cake he can't aim just shoot him lol
>>42417274case in point, if cake of all players is able to succeed with a weapon, it's beyond busted
the new reverts sort of killed the vibe to play on server, hopefully it'll be tweaked in the future
>>42417358shut up any one of us
>>42416205You should DEFINITELY do this so the entire lobby is just Reserve Shooter pyros and Natascha heavies.
>>42417095>so little friendsMakes sense you miserable faggot ahaha
>>42417994In the grim darkness of /mlptf2/, there can be no victor.
My /mlptf2/ anon frigay wishlist for tonite
Kiss from Sleez
For Bowrain dash to actually behave like a good boy for once
>>42418052Legalize decapitation
>>42418065You were born a 3rd worlder and you will never be nothing more than a 3rd worlder
>>42418052I really really really hate you, and hope you stop posting forever.
>>42418052I'm not sure who you are, but I hope you slowly drift away from all your friends without you realizing, until one day you wake up and you're all alone.
>>42418322Still better than being an American
>>42418639ugly octavia is even uglier green wtf is wrong with you ghostbuster
Fun fact of the day
I met a man with the last name "plots"
Real and true story
>>42418639>americans out of nowhere3rd worlders just can't stop yearning to be immigrated to a civilized country
>>42418685Spoken like a true American
>>42418639Why is she green
>>42418698What's your thug price ghost
>>42418322If I could be born third world and live in the first world now so can he, I believe....
>>42419096born and live in third world while earning shekels from the first world is the best
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>>42410393hello thread here is my submission, i hope somebody else makes something better.
Kill griffons. Behead griffons. Immolate griffons with a scorch shot. Put stickies and level 3 sentries in front of the griffons' spawn. Destroy griffons' sentries, dispensers and teleporters. Launch grenades at griffons. kill an afk griffon using Spy's knife animation. Headshot friendly griffons who were just dancing kazotsky kick. Disguise as a griffon, get healed by a griffon medic, then backstab them. Taunt on griffons after killing them. Stealthily get behind the griffon cart. Defend the control points from griffons.
whoever was talking about underscores in the chat I put on some of it and while I can see what you mean I wouldn't call vylet derivative or copying, I mean obviously vylet didnt invent hyperpop or dariacore I just think she has one of the most interesting takes on it. when I think of something as derivative I moreso think like the early greta van fleet ordeal lmao
>>42419442>"The Great Griffon Scourge returns, hippies!"
i quite enjoyed playing this with you guys the other day. hopefully its a little more active tomorrow.
>They actually removed the invisible Trans Rights message from Demolition
lmao.
>>42419364wow shes lookin' classy
>>42419870Why would you go on the internet and tell lie?
You guys need a bump, so bump.
>>42419912>Ghostbuster rushing to post a shitty reply as soon as it sees an opportunity to shit on LGBT peoplefuck you. also valve is a shitty company for constant removing harmless shit like this from tf2
>>42419912>Ghostbuster rushing to post a shitty reply as soon as it sees an opportunity to shit on LGBT peoplebased.
>>42419364wow rary awesome
>page 10 in 2 hours
what the fuck is happening
>>42415779not just garbage short circuit, the yer is back to being trash as well. shame too becuase its my preferred knife.
>>42421030you're forgetting that the YER has access to saharan spy now. you can get a disguise easily as even the most tryhardy of players with muted music won't be able to hear you decloak.
>>42421139But it still requires equipping Lโรtranger for the full benefits. Maybe I want to use YER with the reverted Ambassador.
>>42421190or just regular revolver, I just bought a factory new one like a week ago and have been getting more kills gunning down over confident scouts and snipers than I have from back stabs,
>>42415779Rip my Splendid Screen niggas
today is open mic night
make sure (You) get on
>>42421255splendid screen persuader stocks have tanked into the trenches, unusable
Went through and set up the cvars for the revert plugin. Toggles some new things on (Tomislav, some of the other Item Sets), and some others off (Short Circuit, Wrangler, etc). Just yeet it at 15 or something whenever.
https://pastebin.com/f8t987HP
>>42421480don't want to play wacky revert tf2 classic++ enhanced edition but don't want miss open mic night either... decisions
>>42415779Holy shit that's based fuck the short circuit
hop on tf2 i have to wagecuck early tomorrow
>>42422842i'm here, where is everyone else
>>42423254this is a shimmer thread so i will post my fabulous pony girl wife: the fabulous, the powerful, the canon. SUNSET SHIMMER
>>42423277She has that cock hungry look
whats with all the yapping? do we not do micspam anymore
i can't believe hattsy HATES us, it's so OVER
happy birthday hattfren :moonbeam:
>>42423359i could never hate you guys, thamku moonfren
i appreciate every single one of you. whether you are an oldfag from 2021 or a newfag that started playing yesterday. no more fighting, please. we are all a big happy family. i love you all
>>42423401HAPPY BIRTHDAY+1, HATTSY
>>42423442appreciate you saucy love you
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>>42422348yeah I honestly don't understand why we have things like the bear heavy set or gas jockey set disabled. the croc-o set I understand that's absolutely fucking retarded but did 15 really think the bear set would be too OP? come on.
also page 10 in ONE HOUR WHAT THE FUCK
>>42423741no you retard those are the default castaway settings
>>42423741The Hibernating Bear set is honestly really underwhelming. Not only do you have to use the Brass Beast alongside the Steak and Bear Claws, but the set bonus is...5% crit resistance. Not exactly something to write home about.
>>42423858ok so why not enable it? I want to RP as the hibernating bear but I can't do it if the set isnt there.
>Dip hoof into Casual on a whim
>mfw
It has literally become a game of extremes. You either have braindead new players who struggle with WSAD controls, or cracked out veterans playing like it's the finals of RGL. There is no in-between.
>>42423865we still haven't updated the plugin to fix the airsrike not working so 15's probably just busy, give him time and he'll enable it
>>42423888Like i said, the sourcemod plugin used on the server is 6 months old out of date. It's a miracle that the server doesn't get even more broken than it should have been.
>>42423908? soucemod doesn't have to be updated, it's already on 1.13 so it doesn't matter.
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>>42423912>it's already on 1.13wat
>>42423915https://www.sourcemod.net/downloads.php?branch=dev
what are you talking about? the most recent version of sourcemod is 1.13 and the server has it lol. do you even know anything about sourcemod?
>>42423916are you retarded? you think I'm the one who coded warioware?
>>42423921you are retarded for not knowing that sourcemod 1.3 came out in 2010 LOL
>>42423912The way sourcemod works requires constant updoot whenever TF2 got any updates, both major and minor
>>42423986no it doesn't lmfao
>>42423925he was born in 2010 give him a break
>>42423915Dude that means the WarioWare plugin is on 1.3.0 instead of 1.2.5, not that SourceMod itself is on 1.3.0
>>42424468*is on 1.2.5 instead of 1.3.0
>>42424468warioware doesn't use a plugin, it's 100% vscript
>>42424470Ummm no.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3413262999
>If you want to run this gamemode on a dedicated server, you must install a light SourceMod plugin for this to work properly (due to quirks with host_timescale). See the instructions on the GitHub repositoryThe gamemode itself is all vscript but it still needs a SM plugin to run on the server
>>42424473which means the message is a complaint from the plugin that the sourcemod plugin is outdated
>>42424479uh yes? what is your point
>>42424484The message clearly states "SourceMod plugin version is outdated". Therefore it stands to reason to assume that our sourcemod plugin version is outdated.
>>42424496No shit? Do you understand that SourceMod and the SourceMod plugin are two different things lol?
>>42424499So you agree with me? Stupid dummy.
>>42424506bait used to be believable
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Open mic night was dope yesterday :-)
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Oh yeah I should post some killcams from this week.
>>42423987Don't cry at me when the server suffers colossal failure because 15 is a lazy fuck.
Reminder
For stallion+stallion it goes hug --> fug
Would you fuck your waifu if she's a stallion?
>>42425664if their penis stinks good yea :3
>>42425731>theirRespect your new husbando with the right pronoun, faggot.
>>42425739nigger that wasnt even me trying to be an lgbt pronoun faggot i literally just used the word normally in a sentence.
>>42425782You should have used "his" instead of "their"
>>42425827he's meant to say their in the plural form you idiot.
>>42425814hop on my dick you ugly little queer
>>42410393been a while bros but I couldnโt resist the chance to draw Rarispy
>>42425946How much do you think Rarity's spent on cosmetics.
>>4242601015 on marewater
>>4242604420 on Marewater
FIFTEEEEEEEN
TURN OF YOUR SPRAYS FIFTEEEEEEEEN
YOU'RE ON THE PONYFUCKER SERVER FIFTEEEEEEEN
FIFTEEEEEEEEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET BANNED FROM TWITCH FOR HORSEPUSSY FIFTEEEEEEEN
>>42425993Rarity has a unusual god tier for every load out slot. for every class. that she changes out seasonally.
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>>42425946hot damn I love this. nice colors and pixelized lines!
>>42425739>this in response to a completely innocuous sentenceyou have a brain resembling swiss cheese
Hey horsefuckers Gielnik here to make an announcement
This upcoming saturday (on open mic night) we're going to hold a discussion on the revert plugin. I'll prepare a list of topics beforehand to be discussed and we will, together, decide on the best settings possible for our community. The results will then be sent to 15 for him to ruminate on.
So, if you REALLY hate the natascha and want it unerverted make sure you're on to participate!
>>42426473>So, if you REALLY hate the natascha and want it unerverted make sure you're on to participate!Oh I will
>>42426473You'll want this then: https://github.com/rsedxcftvgyhbujnkiqwe/castaway-plugins/wiki/Weapon-Revert-List
>>42426485You're going to have to decide if you want afterburn immunity, or the ability to remove debuffs on charging, since it's not bugged to make the targe a hybrid of both revert and modern versions giving you both.
>>42426473>>42426541yeah make sure to read up on any reverts you're interested in, certain weapons have multiple options. Some weapons get heavily buffed, some heavily nerfed, others completely reworked depending on the variant
https://pastebin.com/rzY0Kxix
decided to vomit out my takes for most of the reverts. If a weapon isn't mentioned assume I support one of the reverts. I know we're holding an actual discussion on this saturday, but I wanted to get everything typed out because this is too much to share on the serb
>>42426832>weapons drop as ammo packsIt causes a bug where all the skinned weapons and festive weapons having missing skins and festive lights respectively. They should stay as ammo crates.
>Persian Persuader: Modern. The 100% faster recharge rate alone makes it 10x better than the modern one. The modern one requires you to actively hit the enemies or collecting ammo to get same result instead of... doing nothing.
>TomislavTurning Heavy into fat scout with 500 DPS? Sign me up!
>>42426889>weapons drop as ammo packsyeah that's the one I'm supporting, creates are better
>Persian PersuaderFaster charging rate mostly helps for navigating the map, modern persuader allows for getting 100% charge on kill with booties, enabling chaining, which is much more important than faster charge since most of your kills are happening nearby other enemies you need to get to/escape from. Also, ammo pickups from already dead players/passive spawns basically make up for the lack of passive generation anyway. The chaos factor of packs is more fun imo than a static charge
>Tomislavprobably a bad idea I just haven't seen it yet
>>42426832read the entire thing, here's weapons I disagree on:
>Miniguns ramp-upI agree heavy doesn't need the help, but I don't see why you're "willing to give it a try". Ambushing a heavy and having him shred you anyway with no spinup penalties is going to feel bad.
>Liberty launcherI don't understand why you think a 3 rocket 40% faster speed launcher is an upgrade to stock? We've already had this exact version of LL on the server for years on the old plugin and absolutely nobody used it. You're overvaluing the projectile speed and undervaluing the loss of a rocket. I personally think the projectile speed is a drawback because it makes rocket jumps much harder if not close to impossible in some cases, and having only 2 rockets after a bomb is obscenely bad. However, I do agree the revert should be left alone because that allows the LL to keep its status as a unique rocket launcher, the only weapon with a 5 clip, and I think its a more fun design than the revert.
>Darwin's danger shieldThe modern darwin serves an important purpose in stopping scorch pyros from just tearing you a new asshole. A darwin's that just gives you +25 hp and nothing else in comparison doesn't really do anything. Just a nothing weapon with no purpose. I think this revert should be turned off entirely.
>Cozy camperIF we enable the revert then it functionally does the same thing as the modern darwins to stop pyros from flinching you. If we revert darwins, keep this reverted to give snipers that option. If we keep darwins unreverted, keep this one unreverted too. But I agree it's an OP unlock if reverted, so most people would want this off because they hate sniper.
>TomislavIF we keep the rampup nerf, I'm ok for trying it. If we disable the nerf, dear God don't revert this.
>DalokohsIt's a tiny buff to a bad weapon. I don't see why we can't enable this.
I agree with the rest of the takes.
>>4242710015 himself said minigun spinup penalty was stupid years ago.
>>42427106Not everything 15 says is true. In a pub setting heavy is one of the best classes to have on a team, and requiring them to think a little and spinning up before seeing enemies instead of just corner spin jumping everywhere brainlessly is a good thing.
>>42427116>corner spin jumping everywhere brainlessly is a good thing.About as brainless as shooting feet, the class.
>>42426473The only people who like Natascha are the 3 braindead cart-heavy-only players in the server.
>>42427139Bad player detected
>>42427116>requiring them to think a little and spinning up before seeing enemies instead of just corner spin jumping everywhere brainlessly is a good thing.as a heavy player i agree but thats not how we treat literally any of the other classes on this server, if heavy has to think about when he spins up pyro shouldn't be allowed to light you on fire and one shot you with the axtinguisher in under 2 seconds, demo shouldnt get +20% damage AND 3 pills on the loch, spy shouldn't get insane damage resistance on the dead ringer and no scaling on ambi crits.
i would prefer if minigun ramp up was not reverted BUT only if all the other absolutely broken stuff in the game isnt.
>>42427139Read that again
>>42426541Revert all shields to their previous versions, the one we used before this Castaway plugin. Guaranteed melee crit after shield bash regardless of distance traveled I find to be a little silly. I can live without debuff removal but I still prefer the old revert version.
Splendid Screen has been an unfortunate victim of the rebalancing, was absolutely gutted by this new revert plugin, I want to see it unreverted to either old reverted version, or unreverted, anything is better than it's current state.
An anon here also mentioned the Persian Persuader, but I have not use it so I can't say much.
But I want to see both Natasha and Reserve Shooter unreverted.
Natasha is the most anti-fun minigun, not allowing people to play the videogame outside maybe Snipers, and Pyro should NOT be able instantly delete someone just because you airblasted the poor sod infront of you. Both of them should be unreverted.
>>42426473I'll be there.
I might even turn my mic on.
>>42427100Did we really have revert Liberty launcher this whole time? I had no idea. Revert Black box is good with 3 rockets and Iโd consider the rocket speed better in some situations than lifesteal, but maybe itโs not all that, Iโd have to start using it.
Darwinโs is probably better as is yea, the modern version is a dumb design, sniper is the last class that needs comfort items, but the reverts are all dumber alternatives
Iโm definitely not expecting tomislav to be something that stays, it just seemed like something goofy enough to give people a chance to tryout before banishing it. We have at least until Saturday to use the really dumb stuff anyway so Iโll change my take to turn it off once we get there
>>42427296Unless we get someone to work on the plugin itself, I don't think we're ever getting the targe we had back
The way I see it going down is the targe stays reverted with its silly bash mechanics, all of our friendly hybridknights keep using it unless the age of the loch comes to an end, and all demoknights who don't use tt are funneled to the screen
>>42427382>and all demoknights who don't use tt are funneled to the screenBrother, it's the other way around, there's 0 reason to use the current, gutted Screen, so the handful of screenfags here will have to switch to either TT or Targe, which sucks honestly, more demoknight loadout diversity will always be better
Oh, another preference of mine is to unrevert the katana, unreverted katana longer melee range and +100 overheal HP are better in my opinion, compared to reverted shorter melee range, full non-overheal healing on kill and random crits
Tho I dont feel too strong about this last one, and am willing to talk 'bout it
>>42427629I'm saying this assuming the screen gets its revert switched off and targe doesn't which is probably how it's going to go down
and yes I think unreverted katana would be much nicer to have around too
>>42427629the only changes demoknight really needs is to have the half-zatoichi be unreverted and remain only healing half health with no overheal.
Unpopular opinion: I prefer the revert Cow Mangler because I like laser weapons. Also the 5th "rocket" is a bit of a consolation prize for the inability to crit or be crit boosted.
>>42427813Do you consider the overheal heal to be OP?
>>42427946>>42427100No, but getting rid of the ability to switch weapons at all before killing with it is kind of a nerf, especially given that it can be used to build uber. The same goes for the reverted Razorback: not being able to overheal and being able to build uber for medics faster may be something Iโd be willing to have if it means it can recharge.
>>42427946>>42426473No, but getting rid of the ability to switch weapons at all before killing with it is kind of a nerf, especially given that it can be used to build uber. The same goes for the reverted Razorback: not being able to overheal and being able to build uber for medics faster may be something Iโd be willing to have if it means it can recharge.
>>42427986>especially given that it can be used to build uberI'mma be honest mate, I dont see anyone being enough of a tryhard to abuse that mechanic here, most of folks here are just having fun with their own silly loadouts and rarely someone plays Medic, specially when most of all Medic mains of the community are largely absent
But otherwise I kinda agree, a hybridknight being forced to commit to the melee kill after switching would make for engaging gameplay
>>42426473Iโm sorry I didnโt mention this during open mic night, but here are some thoughts on reverts Iโd like to see changed.
Letโs get rid of the Dead Ringerโs inability to give spies speed boosts. A 90% damage resistance or so is one thing, but it doesnโt mean much when a pyro can keep spraying in the same direction and make the spy visible to everyone. Iโm pretty sure that the previous revert plugin kept the speed boost even if it wasnโt in the game before the Gun Mettle update, so I think we should either give the DR back its speed boost or either unrevert it or find a different revert plugin/script if necessary.
The reverted Panic Attack also seems like a nerf on the heavy, soldier, and pyro, since it only limits the ability to use a secondary weapon for its purpose: a backup for when the primary weapon fails. Not being able to shoot it from the get-go therefore only means that it would be a nerf for classes who use it as a secondary weapon. However, this would be a welcome revert for engineers, since the ability to fire faster as oneโs health depletes would mean that engineers get a weakness of their class balanced out: they have to use what other classes consider to be secondary weapons as primaries, but they can fire faster and at least have somewhat of a greater chance at living if it means they have to be at low health to benefit from this. Therefore, Iโd also like to ask that the Panic Attack revert only be applied to the engineer class.
Iโm also against item set bonuses, since it would mean that Shortstop scouts, for example, wouldnโt be able to use the reverted Sandman-cleaver combo to benefit from the setโs health boost. In these cases, maybe we could look at other reverts to apply, such as giving the Shortstop back its 20% bonus healing and 40% knockback penalty.
>>42427986>The same goes for the reverted Razorback: not being able to overheal and being able to build uber for medics fasterrazorback doesn't make you build uber faster, if you're healing a razorback sniper at full health you build uber as if you were healing someone who is fully overhealed.
>>42426832Same. https://ponepaste.org/11267
>>42427946I do, but mainly when its paired with TT.
it has happened enough that anytime im on a team against a kitana tt knight and we dont have a heavy, or any class that can tank the two hits, we - at some point in the match - are getting spawn camped hard by them until someone has to swap heavy to take them out IF they don't just charge away.
>>42426473my thoughts about heavy, i dont think theyre too controversial but im gonna put them here to see if anyone disagrees.
>All Miniguns -- full damage and accuracy immediately on spinning upDisable, not necessary, makes corner jumping too good.
>Brass BeastEnable, makes it so you can actually hold a position, feels actually impactful instead of barely noticeable.
>Buffalo Steak SandvichEnable, already a gimmicky playstyle that can be shut down really easily.
>Dalokohs BarEnable, vanilla tf2 variant is completely useless.
>Eviction NoticeEnable (Variant 1), health drain sucks, 20% damage vuln also sucks, variant 1 would be fun and wouldnt be particularly oppressive.
>Fists of SteelEnable (Variant 1), or the default revert either is fine.
>Gloves of Running UrgentlyEnable, health drain sucks, move speed for mini-crits on wearer is fair and gives heavy some decent mobility, something he is severely lacking.
>NataschaDisable, but dont really care this weapon is just unfun honestly just remove it from the game or smth.
>TomislavDisable, vanilla tf2 variant is already well balanced and fun to use.
>Warrior's SpiritEnable, makes the weapon actually useable, melee heavy is already a gimmicky and easily countered playstyle.
>>42428428Yeah that checks out, it is why I always said that reverted TT is hideously overpowered, being able to ping pong between targets leads to some disgusting gameplay. The katana is by itself fine.
Sad the TT got the wrong nerf, instead of not being able to crit, it's charge recharge on kill should have been nerfed in a way you can only ping pong wearing booties and either the Persian Persuader or the Claymore
>>42428684Golly has ascended.
>>42428684I think this is the only screenshot that's made me laugh out loud
The server now uses the following cfg: https://github.com/rsedxcftvgyhbujnkiqwe/castaway-plugins/blob/master/cfg/reverts_bakugo_original.cfg
The cfg it used to have was: https://github.com/rsedxcftvgyhbujnkiqwe/castaway-plugins/blob/master/cfg/reverts_castaway.cfg
Thoughts?
>>42429090You took away the N tascha
>>42429090Replicating the old plugin for now is probably the best choice, until we can all decide generally what stuff to have enabled on Saturday's Open Mic night.
>>42429090>old airblast, critana and reserve shooter
>>42429090>>42429107we should keep everything enabled until open mic night so that people can actually try stuff out instead of speculating when it comes to discuss everything.
>>42429090>no change made to the dead ringerI still think that having the speed boost would be better than having the increased damage resistance.
>>42429090And here's the print-out from the console that actually tells you what is enabled and what the changes are.
>>42429175There's a variant that technically gives us both. Just the damage resist is at 50% instead of 90%.
>>42429090>https://github.com/rsedxcftvgyhbujnkiqwe/castaway-plugins/blob/master/cfg/reverts_bakugo_original.cfg>Old airblast>Old reserve shooter>Old katana>Different Targe compared to what we had in the pastNo sir I dont like it
>>42429272Ghost, get it through your thick head. The Old Targe was due to a bug that gave it benefits of both revert and modern incarnations. The Castaway plugin doesn't have such a bug. No one who plays here knows how to code SourceMods, so there's no way for us to implement the same effects as the old Targe. And the Castaway Plugin devs certainly aren't going to add a version for a single server in a niche community that isn't even on their servers.
Your old Targe is dead. Move on.
10 on Marewater
>>42429203unf
>>42429279And what are these effects?
>>42429366>50% Fire Resistance>40% Blast Damage Resistance>Afterburn Immunity>Bash Damage At Any Range>Charging Removes Debuffs (Jarate, Milk, Bleed)
>>42429373And how would bash damage have limited range?
>>42429405Because the old shields used to only get bash damage when 60% or more of the charge meter was consumed. The Splendid Screen used to be the only one which could inflict damage on bashing regardless of charge distance, but all the shields were changed in the Tough Break update to be able to deal bash damage at any range as a native feature of Demoman shields in general.
>>42429405revert targe cant bash until you charge a certain duration, because crits on it are dependent on getting a bash instead of strictly charge meter
>>42429405Before 2015, the bash damage only applies with <40% charge meter left.
On the other hand, if the shield hit anyone at all, even with 0 bash damage, the next melee swing will always be a guaranteed crit.
>>42429090>no brass beast revert>no buffalo steak revert>no dalokohs revert>no warriors spirit revertthe fuck is this gay ass shit, no love for heavy as usual...
>>42429424>no buffalo steak revertOnly if they pick the day 1 version that has no speed cap and stack with GRU.
The rest of them are so so.
>>42429431dalokohs and warriors spirit are abysmal dogshit in vanilla, brass beast is underwhelming and not fun.
all im asking is that my boy gets something to spice things up especially when every other class seems to benefit massively from reverts
>>42429450kinda blows my mind that valve thought the overheal on the dalokohs was powerful enough to get nerfed. Medic does the same thing but like 10x better, really nigga?
>>42429459im pretty sure it was nerfed because there was a bug surrounding it? and instead of fixing the bug they just changed how the weapon worked and made it shit, thats what i remember at least
>>42429459should have just got a rework, having to afk in a corner to eat before every fight to get some extra h[ is boring even it it became good
>>42429465i would massively prefer if it was reworked along with the buffalo steak, i would love if it was something like
>Dalokohs Barno longer heals when eaten instead grants a speed boost for 10~ seconds.
>Buffalo Steak Sandvichno longer grants a speed boost.
no longer gives damage vulnerability.
instead grants damage and knockback resistance for the duration of the effect, along with Mini-crits on melee and forced melee only.
>>42429459the overheal was removed due to GRU health drain mechanic.
The plugin even specifically mentions that using revert chocolate with modern GRU will revive the bug.
>>42429090Stupid. Why do that? I thought we wanted to bring some fresh air to the server after 4 years of the same old boring reverts, but now we're back to the same shit?
>no claidheamh>no backburner>no brass beast>no steak>no bear fists>no chocolate>no fast shooting panic>no scottish resistance>no shiv>no saharan spy>no carbine>no penetrating pomson>nerfed YERAlso for some reason we're back to old airblast wtf? Bring them back you heathen
>>42429471nobody wants 75% of the new additions, people will actually be discussing what to remove/keep more seriously on saturday
>>42429477>nobody wants 75% of the new additionsmore like 2 or 3 weapons.
>>42429412>>42429272We should do:
Unreverted targe
Reverted splendid screen
Unreverted TT
This way we'll have a good variety. Unreverted targe will be the tanky shield with a crit mechanic based on the length of its charge. Unreverted TT will no longer be able to crit preventing it from being OP. Meanwhile the splendid screen will keep its unique identity of increased charge bonk damage and requiring the bonk to crit.
This way all 3 shields will have a unique purpose and identity.
>>42429484sounds good to me
unreverted screen so it's not intolerably ass
reverted targe so it doesn't lose out hard to unreverted screen
>>42429484Why won't someone just take the old plugin and write the castaway code on top of it to have pickable revert?
Surely at least one of us know how to code, right?
>>42429494>Surely at least one of us know how to code, right?
>>42429571dashie is so cute
>>42429490Are you aware that the reverted shields all can no longer crit on long charges?
The ONLY way for them to crit is to shield bash an enemy after using 40% or less of your charge. They never crit otherwise.
The new shield mechanics are plain better and less janky. The only reverted shield should be the splendid screen because its entire thing is shield bashes.
>>42429574Of course she is
>>42429595the bash mechanic is ass you're right, the only reason targe should be considered to not be reverted is because of the nerf it took to resistances. For demoknights, unreverted targe just doesn't hold up to screen really, but its fine for hybrid
There's no reason to revert the screen, the bash crit mechanic is ass and the screen takes lower resistances and loses its faster charge just to have that
>>42429595>>42429412So someone went through the effort of monitoring the charge meter and damage dealt with swords just to recreate a bug?
>>42429571I know how to code, but I donโt think I could set up SourceMod on my laptop to save my life.
>>42429279NO, I REFUSE!
GIB MUH OLD TARGE BACK REEEEEEEE kek
In all honesty is not that huge deal, losing debuff removing on charge gives Snipers with piss a fighting chance in an otherwise very one sided battle, so I can ignore it. What I can't ignore is the short distance charge bash crit, doesnt feel fair nor feels good to do, feels -wrong-, very counter-intuitive, Demoknight has to long distance charge to land a crit, that's how I view it to be fair.
>>42429484>Unreverted targeLosing -10% blast damage resistance but specially afterburn inmunity will be a pain in my ass, I just want the short charge crit gimmick gone, that is all; but I can try cope with it. Axtinguisher - Degreaser - Flare Gun pyros would absolutely demolish me even more than Pyro already does.
>Unreverted TTWhile old TT is disgusting OP, modern TT is a husk of it's former self, not being able to crit neuters so much potential from that shield, and is nothing more than a mobility tool for hybridknights to use. I'm willing to give modern TT a try but just to see how awful it is for full demoknight. And hope others see it how shit TT is nowadays.
>>42429617>For demoknights, unreverted targe just doesn't hold up to screen reallyI will have to disagree, with the old revert plugin we had in the past, Charging Targe was a very valid shield choice for full demoknight
>50% Fire Resistance>40% Blast Damage Resistance>Afterburn Immunity>Debuff Removal>Long distance charge critsWith eyelander and +4 heads you became an absolute Juggernaut, one of the most tanky classes in the game, I'm sure you could survive a crocket to face with 4 heads targe while being extremely fast, being able to simply shrug most of non-bullet damage and hold W on the enemy. Screen might have the best head-on charges of all 3 shields but being an absolute unit with the Targe, and become even tankier than a heavy vs fire and blast damage is amazing.
>>42429622I agree.
Unrevert targe and screen. Targe won't compete very well with screen but the alternative of using the revert targe isnt fun to play with even if the resistances are good. Bash->crit mechanic just isn' worth dealing with
revert TT is OP but really it's not carrying games. Only see people going ham when paired with the katana, it's a popular item that doesnt hurt the game so keep it. Don't like the free aim charge either way so doesn't matter much to me
>>42429650I was specifically referring the the unreverted targe - losing resistances and afterburn removal makes it hard to justify using over screen unless you're playing hybrid. The version we had before was good
>>42429617>There's no reason to revert the screenBecause the splendid screen used to pair incredibly well with 5 heads eyelander. Shield bash would deal whooping 170 damage.
Currently it only does 128 bash damage at max because they haven't revert that feature yet.
>>42429657bash damage is inconsequential most of the time, having your crit swing locked behind the bash is what sucks given how janky the detection is
5 heads eyelander with unrerverted screen one shots a scout - how often do you actually see that happen in practice? It's not because the damage sucks, it's because hitting it is unreliable
>>42429650>Ghost goes mask off and makes plain his desires for Demoknight to be an overwhelming force that has no counter and cannot be stoppedKnew I kept this image for a reason.
So the old tide turner we had was never in the game in the first place? Bakugo just decided on a whim to make all shields better unconditionally?
>>42429676no, tt was that broken on release, it just got overnerfed
targe is the only shield from the bakugo plugin that had different behavior from its historical counterpart, that just being having the modern charge crit mechanic instead of the one we're suffering today
>>42429676Bakugo version of tide turner only has 15% resistance against fire and explosion while historically it has 25% resistance against both when it still had full crit.
Also trying to recreate 100% accurate shield charge mechanic requires too much reverse engineering like straight up modifying the server binary. I applaud the castaway dev to even try.
>>42429668>that has no counter and cannot be stoppedAirblast, specially paired with the Reserve Shooter
Rocket at feet knockback
Scout, specially the FaN, reverted Soda Popper and specially BFB that can actually outrun a 4 heads demoknight
Piss mid-combat
Heavy, specially the Natasha
Literally any shotgun
Direct pipe hits will demolish a demoknight regardless of loadout
Sticky traps on chokepoints
Sentries
Using terrain so you dont get charged
Being overhealed
Staying with your team, dont isolate yourself, 1vs1ing is what demoknight wants
Random crits
Simply shooting down the nigga, he has a sword you have a gun
There's a reason why you dont see targefags top scoring, and barely affecting the balance of the match, but you will absolutely see a good TTfag demolishing your entire team while top scoring. Because this is a very damage oriented game, and being able to kill fast will always be better than being able to die slowly.
>>42429691Oh yeah, I forgot the tt released with higher resistances than the screen. What were they thinking lmao
>>42429697>"This is a party-style team game, not a competitive eSport. The focus should be on fun, not perfect balancing."
>>42429756This is unironically how I feel. Wishing everypony on thread a civil and hopefully productive discussion. No sperging out if u don't get ur way okay??
>>42429756true, release valve rocket launcher to the masses for funsies
>>42429484please do not unrevert the TT i will hang myself on open mic night
...but dashie is 20% cooler
Natascha? More like nigga gotcha!
>>42429773You know itโs possible to program that yourself using VScript, right?
>>42430101I dabble in vscript and giving yourself giving yourself a custom weapon isn't a feature yet.
>>42430101I dabble in vscript and giving yourself a custom weapon isn't a feature yet.
>>42430111how did our marena do it then?
>>42430101thank you for this piece of enlightenment any one of us
>>42430147noooo dashie.....
Apparently there was a recent data leak at Valve, and as a result we now have the FULL music track for Meet The Sniper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebrFO6tDqVs
>>42430530Heroes do what cor*orations don't
https://youtu.be/BF7cnAOaxRg?si=ZInyZ2946L6qIa-H
This is the song that plays whenever you log into the server btw
>>42429484agree, fuck the TT.
>>42429477nah, 90% of reverts are fine. the biggest offenders are things that even the TF2 community said needed to be nerfed and nerfed HARD back in their hay days.
No one liked the dead ringers stupid damage resistances. no one liked the pay to win cosmetic sets (even if now they are just a dollar or les, they are still lame as fuck.) and no one liked TT, lock, BFB, tomislav besides the kiddies who couldnt get past 3 kills a life without them.
no one cares about chocolate, melee heavys or they want a modern better version of whatever they are stuck with. I really hope admins do give a shit about the community wants on Saturday and not just their own preferred bullshit.
>>42430967>no one ares about melee heavysI do
>>42431047poor heavy bros, how will they ever counter the formidable S key...
>>42431068In all fairness a steak buffed Heavy is relatively fast
But yes melee heavy needs to be faster
Buff melee heavy
>>42430967True. The admins will only be listening to what the community wants if they listen to me specifically
Trixie will bump the thread, just this once.
>>42429484this is literally the worst of all worlds. the targe and TT want to be reverted because the reverts are very fun, and the splendid screen doesn't want to be reverted because the revert stats are dogshit.
10th for hot sweaty stallion sex
>>42432856I don't think dashie has a marecock
4 on Marena. I don't want to be alone anymore.
>>42431848>the targe and TT want to be reverted because the reverts are very funliterally everyone I asked hates the chargebash mechanic
>>42432890I haven't tried demoknight yet, is it because it's OP or janky?
>>42432883Get a stallion, fag
Good news demoknight mains - we just tested the shields on the server and turns out that, for some reason, the shields work even better than in the old plugin - they still get the new chargecrit mechanic, in addition to the old chargebash mechanic. So they have both the crit mechanics now.
Except for the splendid screen because it's currently unreverted.
>>42429595So this is wrong
>>42432973>they still get the new chargecrit mechanicOld shield always has both. It's not new.
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>>42432979It was a new mechanic introduced when the old bashcrit was retired
>>42432984No it's not. I play the game since 2011.
>>42432984no it wasn't, the patch notes here are weirdly stated but you could always crit after a long charge. what the notes are saying is that instead of getting a crit when you bash, the crit status after you bash is based on the distance you charged, which is just another way of stating that it works like how it works when you swing without bashing.
>>42433035source: https://youtu.be/lSy1lFquVAw?t=52
you can see he swings at the dispenser without activating his bash and still does the crit animation
>>42433045>>42433035well I guess we were all retarded and wrong, good thing because it makes the decision to revert or not easier
>>42432973>they still get the new chargecrit mechanicYay!
>in addition to the old chargebash mechanicYou mean the guaranteed crit regardless of distance charged?
I rather have it gone but I guess you dont look a gifted horse in the mouth
20/32 on cp_maresmakemehardassteel
>>42433331Me on the right sucking on Twilight's meat.
Thank u 4 playing with me frens
>>42433453thank you for joining mate
>>42431848>very funyes, in the same way one person having a golf club in a room with ten babies is fun for them, just not the babies.
>>42433539Just don't stand in front of him, idiot.
>>42433543the great thing about the TT is you can be upstairs around a corner and your ass is still grass.
>>42433552And how would the melee attack connect if you aren't standing right in front of him?
Also the tide turner doesn't have infinite turn control, the shield charge will stop prematurely if the demoknight turns too much.
>>42433578>Also the tide turner doesn't have infinite turn control, the shield charge will stop prematurely if the demoknight turns too much.this isn't true, it does have infinite turn control. but it has the extra attribute of losing pretty much all charge if the demo takes damage while charging
>>42433599Go launch the game, equip the tide turner, right click, and turn 180ยฐ instantly.
Tide turner? more like the Coal burner
>>42433631>How strange! Doing movements that are not physically possible without macros cause odd issues, and weren't accounted for!Pottery.
>Castaway Plugin might add in old versions of the Phlog
Are you ready for FULLY HEALED ON TAUNT Phlog Madness?
>>42433937>Turning your mouse is impossiblewhat?
Never fear! Your friendly neighborhood Rainbow Dash is here!
>>42434135Maybe Iโd consider it when the Dead Ringerโs speed boost is brought back.
>>42433578>>42433631SHUT THE FUCK UP ANY ONE OF US
>>42435502>he thinks everyone who dislikes the reverts is aoou
>>42435520if you had a fucking brain and eyes to read with you would see that any one of us is defending the reverts, you absolute troglodyte, but the reason i know it's any one of us is because he's asking retarded questions as if he doesn't know shit about the game which he absolutely does
>>42435576>he thinks a dedicated spy main isnโt put off by the dead ringerโs lack of a speed boost>he has never read the server chat or any of the posts he has made in this sort of regard
>>42435649What makes you think so, Anon?
>>42435617the reverted DR is the strongest iteration of DR its ever been
yes the speed boost is gone but who cares about that when you have a 90% damage reduction and can pick up ammo to restore it?
>>42435687HE'S THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, HE'S THE WHOLE OPERATIONS. THE RAGE BAIT MUST STOP!
>>42435775You can tank a fucking backstab with it. You can survive over 3 melee crits back to back. shits beyond busted. whats the point of jarate when a Dead Ringer spy can just walk away uncontested back to his team?
>>42435805there are actually two variants available in the plugin that keep its ammo pickup while retaining the speed boost. maybe Any One of Us will actually get his wish if he makes a good enough case for it on saturday
>>42435775The thing is the Castaway plugin offers variants which are a "best of both worlds" sort of option. Both have the same stats as modern TF2 (so the speed boost on feign and afterburn immunity for 3 seconds), and both can pick up ammo while uncloaked for charge (at a -35% less though), but Variant 1 has a 75% damage resist and Variant 2 has a 50% damage resist. We could literally have our cake and eat it too.
>>42436128I fixed your post, anon (:^
>>42435775>>42435840Iโve said this before, but if it is necessary for me to reiterate this now and/or on Saturday, I will do it again. The damage resistance means absolutely nothing if it means pyros can keep spraying in the same direction and spies have no chance of escaping if they only move slightly faster than pyros without any speed boost. Sure, the spy would eventually be able to outrun the pyro, but at that point, the spy would already be on fire and the pyro could just fire a flare at him and likely kill him instantly.
The previous revert plugin kept the speed boost even though it reverted mostly everything else, so why canโt this one?
>>42436151I only wanted a hug because it's cold and stuff...
>>42436175Bakugo version of dead ringer doesn't even historically exist, he made up his own nerfed version of it.
>>42436175>The previous revert plugin kept the speed boost even though it reverted mostly everything elsewhat the fuck are you talking about, no it didn't? the only reason you ever saw spies getting a speed boost from the dead ringer on the old plugin is because they're using the modern version
>>42436420where does it say "no speed boost", anon?
>>42436443SHUT THE FUCK UP ANY ONE OF US PLEASE GOD HELP ME
>>42436474dont be mean to dashie
>>42436583its actually a mascmare, anon. with a pussy.
>>42436583It's femstallion, nigger
>>42436443>Monkey brain hear speed boost noise>Must mean fast>Just ignore fact that am not go fastAm Any One Of Us. Am smrt. Am gud TF2 playur.
>>42436783I need to learn his methods of rage baiting.
>>42436836Become a dashfag and make a post
A couple of moths late but I think this image is almost 3 years old. The more things change...
>>42436981update it but add more name fags being annoying and then 15 shoots one at random directly in the head before disappearing for a month
>>42436981The only difference is that 15 is entirely absent.
Everything else is the same.
>>424373031 on jump
It's ogre.
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>>42436981>flutterzoo fridayholy unf
i need to pee SO bad rn dashie
>>42437555we need to bring it back
Marefair pro tip
If he lets you hug him, he'll probably let you fug him!
You better get on tonight
>>42439390How does dashie know who jesus is?
>>42419364the guy who made this is the goat. THE GOAT
>BLU demonstrating proper execution of the Zapp Brannigan Strategy
>[SM] The answer to Vote for the next OP picture! is: Dress To Impress Rarispy.>>42425946this won, congrats!
29/32 on cp_granary
next is pl_quagmire! COME HELP US HIT FULL HOUSE
>>42440750I miss her cock already
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>>42440925>posting tamersverse where marecock is canon
>>42440939>posting tamers>assuming intelligence or thought
>thread almost at bump limit
>15 still hasn't changed the picture on mlp.tf
>>42441040>15>doing anything but gooning on his own discord server
>>4244104515 is busy playing wplace on his stream rn
>>42439078So trve. It's our heritage.
i ate a large costco pizza in one sitting
>>42442117am i supposed to be impressed
>>42442117that's about a below average serving for an adult male?