With the future of the Internet as questionable as it is at the moment, what type of pone content are you archiving now? Plans for exchanging pone content with others? Backup plans?

>>42414094 (OP)
None.

>>42414094 (OP)
What are you implying? Is the future of the Internet questionable because big tech is going to buy this site?

>>42414107
That the Internet will become increasingly ID-gated and region locked due to the variety of new laws across the world placing additional restrictions on websites that could potentially expose people to "harmful content" (a relative term depending on who's saying it). Such regulations basically affecting any site with user generated content because there is always the potential for "harmful content" to be posted.

>>42414094 (OP)
I've got 154GB of ponyshit on my disk and a local backup. That's it.

Tangentially related but I pray this somehow heralds the return of small personal websites and forums and shit

>>42414094 (OP)
>>42414094 (OP)
nothing. but I'd assume people would use other networks like i2p(hopefully primarily) in case that somehow even mlp content or derpibooru and etc gets id locked or something

>>42414094 (OP)
torproject.org

>>42414162
Except people in the past have mitigated state Internet controls with Tor and VPN’s and I doubt they would be in decline with the number of YouTubers who advertise them.

>>42414196
isn't tor compromised by the glowies? I bet the government runs more nodes than volunteers do.

>>42414196
i2p is more future proof
https://geti2p.net/en/about/intro

>>42414203
if it's good enough for drugs and cp, then it's good enough for ponies
if you really don't trust Tor when I2P, Lokinet, Yggdrasil, GNUnet and Free/hyphanet are good alternatives
>>42414212
agree, but Tor has better support (with entire operating systems that only connect through Tor) and normal web support
also i2p-java is bloated and i2pd has (((FSB))) cryptography

>>42414222
it's not about trusting Tor(idc personally). the thing is that the more people use Tor, the slower it gets. but when more people use i2p, the faster i2p gets because it's peer-to-peer so more people would be seeding the network more like torrents.

>>42414094 (OP)
I hope it all burns

I saved reaction images

>>42414094 (OP)
39 GB folder with pony and fluffy stuff

>>42414107
No because totalitarian governments will regulate and monitor and control internet usage to their self interest.

Gov't ID will start next month.

only now that OP and other anons here say it, i feel too reliant on pony boorus
my local pony folder has only something over 1GB, not counting archives

>>42414355
pony boorus should make i2p eepsites in case even boorus get state controlled as well.

>>42414311
But keep in mind that there are only a handful of big corporations who own all of the domains on the Internet. If they don’t like a particular government’s rules, they can simply shut down their services there and their executives could pull their golden parachutes if the need were to arise. Governments would need to seriously debate whether they would like to effectively make operating Internet services in their countries unprofitable, especially since so much of our society relies on Internet access, from posting on 4chan to operating air traffic control services effectively.

>>42414311
Except we are also seeing more places pass privacy laws to protect consumer data. In the wake of the EU passing the GDPR, there has been a number of U.S. states who have passed their own similar legislation, including my own.

>>42414284
This. If something like that happens I just hope we go full scale atomic war. Let this entire world burn, the people in it deserve nothing less.

How do I mass download stuff from boorus?

>>42414398
Cali has done that, though I don't think it's ever been enforced. Not would it cover sites just lying or being incompetent.

>>42414094 (OP)
Simple, anything I like I save, anything I save I backup. My poni folder is at around 180gb right now

>>42414283
>the thing is that the more people use Tor, the slower it gets
???

>>42414182
i am PRAYING this happens. forums and small sites are so incredibly superior compared to the content serving slop algorithms

>>42414094 (OP)
I downloaded all the canon episodes in 5 different drives and call it a day.
Would probably burn a bluray disc as well someday.

>>42414094 (OP)
I've been meaning to burn the entire show to DVD for a while now but I just don't want to wear out my DVD drive doing it

>>42414182
If anything, I think this would kill off small or hobby sites. Any time there's user content, there is the possibility of "harmful content". And I certainly wouldn't trust any random website with my personal info. Even if you were to use a third party service, I think I heard it mentioned that Reddit was paying like $1.25 per verification. That adds up fast and still doesn't address the issue of forcing people to dox themselves.

>>42415622
>I just don't want to wear out my DVD drive doing it
I've been using the same disc drive in my computer for the past 15 years. It's probably seen at least 2000 discs through it, and it still runs great. It's even a slim disc drive.

>>42415632
You've been burning discs? It seems to get a bit warm when burning something...
It's also going to take ages because I'd be doing all nine seasons and you can only fit like what, two or three episodes on one DVD?

>>42415622
Just buy an old hard drive and load it up with the content and par2 recovery files. 1TB drive should be $10. 1080p entire series should only be 220 GB from iTunes. add another 30 GB if you want blu ray for the movie. even with lots of odds and ends, 1TB should be plenty.

hard drives do die over time, so every year or so you will have to spin up this drive, copy to a new drive, and run a par2 recovery program to fix any bad data. in all likelihood, it will copy flawlessly or have tons of errors that you can fix if you have enough par2 data. no in between.

>>42415909
It's probably seen at least 500 discs burnt (on the low side). I used to buy blank DVDs by the hundred. I may not burn them as often as I used to, but I still think I have around 300 blank discs lying around.

>>42415929
How much storage does it take to archive the boorus? I've misplaced my previous Derpi rip so I am currently in the process of ripping PonerPics.

>>42415091
it will overwhelm the nodes(more people will leach out the bandwidth out of the network to be able to use it, making it slower for everyone). unless people volunteer to run nodes of their own to speed up the network for everyone

>>42414094 (OP)
>poni finally starts to make a comeback
>(((powers that be))) turn the entire internet into a fucking DMV
Can't have shit, truly

I just have conservatism fatigue at this point.

>>42414094 (OP)
I have a backup of the show itself. I should perhaps expand this to include more fan content too.

>>42414182
>>42415564
While not related to ponies at all. For a lot of stuff I've made I've already been putting most of it on my own site or at least have an independent copy on there. Even without some sites beconing less accessible I don't want things I made to exist at the mercy of some ai moderation tools taking content down on some false positive detection.

>>42416134
I just want to be left alone by both sides.

fuck it I'm getting a data hoarding rig, is a 2,5" HDD enough or do I need a 3,5 with a power station thingy? I'm thinking in terms of longevity and reliability, the speed and cost don't matter that much, I doubt I'm gonna exceed 5tb even with all my movies and some games because why not

>>42416214
Go with a 3.5" drive. They're cheaper and higher capacity. You can currently get 3.5" drives up to 28tb while 2.5" drives top out at 5tb and are SMR (avoid SMR drives whenever possible). And ideally you want two drives to have a backup in case one fails. Get more capacity than you think you'll need, it all adds up.

>>42416134
You're a fucking retard if you think this is a conservative thing.

>>42414200
You vastly underestimate the lazyness and complacency of normies. The Internet is the way it is now because most people didn't care to rebel what they consider minor inconveniences. Normies don't value their privacy because they've already sold themselves to corpos to fit in. Look at how many of them willingly dox themselves for attention. They won't care much at all for this ID bullshit. They'll complain about it once on Twitter or their group chats then bend their knee just to get back to consooming the slop they usually do. To them, its not worth the hassle to care. I highly doubt Tor and VPN's will get significantly more traction.

>>42416258
I'm both a conservative (conserve pony content) and a liberal (make it freely accessible).

>>42416021
>t. Never used tor

>>42414094 (OP)
Most of my work I post on DeviantArt which doesn't back up anything even if you have a paid account so I just use the Internet Archive Wayback Machine as my Cloud Backup. I have to punch in the URL manually which is a pain given how I work and the fact that I tend to make continuous updates on many of the things that I work on. However, at least one good thing is the fact that, because I'm a composite artist and use so many other artistic creations as part of my own I'm also backing up all of their work as well because I always reference and give credit to the works that I use and the works that are directly embedded and referenced also get backed up at the same time.

>>42414094 (OP)
I've been saving a lot of YouTube videos and stuff from my favorite artists lately. I'd like to share stuff with others going forward, but it's hard to know what methods of communication and file sharing will survive the age verification apocalypse and bans on encryption. I don't think it will be possible to have any sort of central media archive in the not-too-distant future and things will probably have to survive through P2P file sharing and small sites that constantly pop up and go down. A larger network might be able to form if it's exclusively friend-to-friend and has no public nodes, but I don't think anything like Tor will hold out in the long term.

>>42414094 (OP)
I just save pictures of ponies I like. I also have copies of the episodes. Everything else is my own imagination.
>>42416339
This. Be liberal to the extent that you have the freedom to poni poni. Be conservative to the extend that you want to protect and conserve your right to poni poni.

>>42414451
Please.

>>42417099
Lookup derpibooru downloader. Not sure if it's still maintained but it used to be able to DL all faves by user id.

>>42414102
fpbp

>>42417099
Ask in /fast/

>>42416214
I’m pretty sure you can get HDD RAID (Redundant Array Inexpensive Drives?) racks from server farms/setups and use them.
Check ((your)) local e-waste vendors, CSI electronics operates in both America/Canada.

>>42416519
I literally hosted a middle node before stfu

>>42415929
I can't plug an old hard drive into the TV in my van and watch ponies though

What pony channels should I save?

>>42414094 (OP)
I'm pretty casual, have saved the show plus EU materials (like comics and books) for personal enjoyment. For the fandom I have an art collection I've built up one piece at a time over the years. Saved a copy of the Brony Music Archive (as well as have a scattering of music from other sources) and the Fimfic archive (which I update irregularly).

I need to be more proactive about saving videos locally, it seems like they tend to disappear the most often out of anything in the fandom. "Save local copies of anything you enjoy before it disappears" is a good rule of thumb, just not one I'm always good at following.

>>42414094 (OP)
I have the first few seasons, and regularly archive my upvoted on derpi and altbooru. I also have a massive collection of fanfics and greens because I browse them for fun instead of actually reading, and they don't take up any space. I see no reason why these laws would affect poni? They only seem to be targetting big sites like OnlyFans, Xitter, YouTube.

>>42414094 (OP)
I shoot down all MLP related discussions at Hasbro board meetings

>>42418215
I believe these laws will affect any site with user generated content. They're not just about porn. They're about any content deemed "harmful", something which will vary wildly depending on who you ask. Remember that it only takes two swears for a movie to be rated r and to require ID verification to see. The internet is (mostly) filled with real people with real thoughts and emotions. Which can sometimes be vulgar. And it's not just that the site does contain such content, but the possibility that it could, which is always the case when you allow people to post.

The end result is most of the web getting ID-gated or region locked if the site operator doesn't want to comply. Even if a site operator did want to comply with these laws, it's probably not going to be feasible for anyone but an already giant website. If the site owner does it themselves, they are incurring a huge risk and burden because if they fuck up they could expose their entire userbase to identify theft. And even without that, people would be wary of handing their ID over to some random on the internet (as they should be). The other option is to use a "trusted" third party, but those aren't cheap. I think I heard Reddit was paying $1.25 per ID. For someone operating a small hobby site out of their own pocket, it adds up fast. 1000 users would cost $1250 to verify, not something the average person could incur as a regular cost. And that would be in addition to exposing people's browsing habits to a third party who will do Celestia only knows what with the data. And it's not like you could even crowdfund it either, as that would require a community to draw from, which you wouldn't even have the chance to form in the first place.

>>42414094 (OP)
What kind of books does Twilight archive in her library?

>>42414094 (OP)
>Plans for exchanging pone content with others?
I think this question should get more attention than it usually does in similar discussions. From my point of view, there's little benefit in a pony archive if it's not accessible by other people who need something they don't have in their own archives.
>>42418151
NTA but bumping this. I've finally set up an instance of Tube Archivist and thrown e.g. Algo at All, AnonTheAnon, Batsy, and this cool Marbul guy from a recent "hidden gems" thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iIfPPJ1yE0 into queue. I wanted to stop worrying and just paste a bunch of channels into it, let it download stuff overnight and see how much resources it'll take, how usable it'll be, whether HDDs for Elasticsearch will be a problem, etc. I'm not sure how convenient it'll be for one-off pony videos on not strictly pony channels, but I saw an option to add videos by URL instead of scraping channels so yeah maybe.
I also had this idea of taking videos from rewatch threads/cytube replays to get a wide variety of old and new poni poni included.
>>42418292
I don't like that this not only puts agewalls on big tech parts of internet, but also has potential to make small sites unviable.

>>42418938
Be careful bulk downloading from YouTube. Use delays and ideally rotate proxies. They've started banning IPs that download too much too quickly.

>>42414094 (OP)
>he doesnt own a full copy of TPA ON LTO tape
lmaoing @ ur entire lyfe

>>42418967
I know it's been repeated to death for years but man the modern internet really sucks, huh

>>42414094 (OP)
>he doesnt own a full copy of TPA on LTO tape
lmaoing @ ur entire lyfe

>>42419000
I've got ~130TB of HDDs instead.

>>42418967
TA seems to apply quite a lot of delay between initial scraping requests, fuck it, if they ban my static IP there are indeed workarounds.
Now that I'm thinking about it, seems like videos and discussion are the only places where ponies are still stuck in a "stranger's kingdom", so to speak? We've got own boorus as art "storage" (not always source, but also not always archive); horsewords have fimfic and ponepaste. There's a few places for music, and that 2021 archive torrent. For videos we have PonyTube but that's not quite comparable to YT. For discussion, there's this board on this site, and some >dickswords if one's into more secluded circlejerks I guess. Bunkers at NHNB (dedicated site, yay) and mlpol, wherever that one was.
I don't know what to say, just pointing out the obvious I guess.
>>42418987
>>42419000
Mail it to me then, certain pink princess appreciator anon.
>>42418997
I don't want to doompost but I start to understand people from years ago saying this is a downward spiral. Maybe another internet will come out of this, if shit happens. A pony kind of internet. We'll just need to find each other again and poni poni. In the meantime, it won't hurt to gather pony things from this internet.

>>42419034
I was joking, I domt got it, but you can pay for a copy now if you want

>>42414094 (OP)
My memories are enough. If I start to forget them, it's time for me to go anyways.

>>42416976
>use the Internet Archive Wayback Machine as my Cloud Backup
Reminder that they still listen to takedown requests. I don't know if that applies to the other works you're backing up too.

>>42418938
>there's little benefit in a pony archive if it's not accessible by other people who need something they don't have in their own archives
Very much agreed. I get that some people just do it for themselves and can't entertain every single request, but it's frustrating when someone says that something is archived, and then never does anything with it ever again like sharing it. And given how big some archives can get, it becomes less of saving what you like and more an exercise in hoarding.

>>42418151
Been thinking about this on and off. The most obvious answer is anything you will miss. When something disappears, you'll feel it the most if you actually watched and liked it. But beyond this, I've been trying to figure out what should be prioritised for future fans. Given the vast amount of pony generated over the last nearly 15 years, what is the minimum subset required to adequately represent the different types of pony content and what was popular with fans, and what metrics should be used to define this?

>>42418938
>>42418967
Probably should compare with what is already on TPA. Then only deal with youtube directly for videos not in there and download the rest from TPA.

>>42419046
But I want to talk with other Anons about pony and I want to post pony.

>>42419489
That is a completely different task than archiving. I doubt the Internet is going to disappear completely, so your ability to talk about pone won't go away, just the ability to do it anonymously. It sucks that that could be the future of the internet, but maybe nothing will happen, eh?

>>42419489
>>42419521
I know /diy/ with their HAM thread however long ago had some anons doing digitized image transmission via shortwave/CB. Also seems way harder to censor and manage/control other then outright jamming.
Will ponyfags be forced to use HAM/CB to poni poni poni? I couldn’t imagine the look on boomers faces when they hear faggots talking about Twilight Sparkle’s plot

>>42419529
if governments wanted to jam radio frequencies, they would if they wanted to. Unless you are using encrypted frequencies, it will always be suspectable to jamming. And even encrypted frequencies can be decrypted and then jammed, so you'd have to keep swapping frequency and encryption codes.

>>42419529
The problem with radio is that it's easy to trace the source. Also, can't you be fined if you operate without a license?

>>42419542
>The problem with radio is that it's easy to trace the source.
I'm not a hamfag but that's more for pirate radio/tv since you're broadcasting in a wide area akin to trying to hide a glowing orb in a city of glass buildings.
Most back/forth ham radio conversations are momentary and not with as much intensity, less so if directional antennas are used I think? I know almost nothing about antenna construction and operation though, from skimming the thread its just that you want the antenna length to be the size of your wavelength for ideal coupling, and that signals are broadcast in specific ways depending on geometry and construction.

>Also, can't you be fined if you operate without a license?
the FCC doesn't really give a shit supposedly, they don't fine many people and the people they do end up either constantly jamming frequencies day and night, or are trying to do a pirate radio setup. Outside of some pissed boomer trying to trace your signal's location there's almost zero threat for intermittent communication

>>42419551
>>42419529
yeah, its called packet radio for digitized data transfer
supposedly good for sending shit like weather balloons up, then getting back images remotely.

How would I just archive the entirety of /mlp/'s desuarchive?

>>42419613
I remember the operators said they were going to upload everything to the internet archive once they got stuff organized. Did they ever go through with that?

>>42419613
>>42419667
I don’t know about IA, but in the past they have given out the archive to people who asked for it. They said to contact them first as they highly discourage scraping directly from the website.

Could we build our own ponynet?

>>42414094 (OP)
I'm making a few torrents with different stuff I want to share and preserve. I also seed the Fimfiction torrents. I plan to make a pony /t/ thread later. I got a VPS with a huge disk just for this purpose.

It seems like the limey bill is on its way to being repealed?

>>42419529
>digitized image transmission
Easily done, SSTV has existed for ages. I was monitoring some of the old SATCOM frequencies some years back and decoded an SSTV transmission, it was some art of RD. Pretty cool to think that military satelites have been used to send poni.
>>42419542
>The problem with radio is that it's easy to trace the source.
Kinda, it's way more difficult with HF/SW. It can be done with multiple stations analyzing the arrival time of the transmission with GPS/atomic time but in most cases it's not worth enforcing. If you're really schizo about it you can always operate mobile.

>>42414094 (OP)
HDDs.

>>42420782
And for the less technically inclined anons:
>Hard Dick Drives (me to pony).

This thread reminds me that /pts/ need to comeback

>>42420830
Debian 13, nicknamed after The Great and Powerful Trixie and absolutely not any other character from any other media, is scheduled to be released next Saturday. Might be good time to post a /pts/ thread highlighting it.
I wonder if /g/ will get GR15'd due to this unfortunate coincidence.

>>42414094 (OP)
currently nothing.
i assume that i will be far too busy either bombing government buildings or being in jail to have any time to enjoy any pony

>>42419990
>>42420281
if torrenting ever gets illegalized worldwide, there's still a way to use torrents without the ISP knowing, and that's inside the i2p network, on that network people can make invisible torrents(name self-explanatory). imo it's better than Tor, because Tor doesn't allow torrenting. problem is that i2p isn't as popular as Tor, but it's the second most known network, it just needs to get shilled like Tor was