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Vogelfag revealed !LH2gTIJ8P6 No.42419769 >>42419784 >>42420104 >>42420421 >>42423117 >>42423965
/g4r/ Let’s make an episode of MLP! #2
/g4r/ Let’s make an episode of MLP! #2 Vogelfag edition.

>So what do we have to do?
Either grab an already written fanfiction or write a new fanfic.

The "script" must follow certain guidelines and here we analyze Renzetti & Faust's styles along with Moomin Valley, Hilda and similar shows.
S1's pro is that all 6 main characters actually feel like mains in every episode. There's other shows like Xiaolin Showdown and Storm Hawks where certain episodes dedicate entire scenes to each character showing off but they're rare just like even in S1 MLP case it's rare;
Mare In The Moon, Elements Of Harmony, Ticket Master, Bridle Gossip, Suited For Success, Best Night Ever. Every character needs a gimmick, a section, a dedication to them. And that's the most quantifiable thing.

The next problem arises from having the talent for how to write self-aware characters that requires a certain level of intelligence, vocabulary and dialogue most autists here are incapable of.
MLP FIM is primarily a dialogue-driven show. This creates its boring but adult appeal cause adults care about dialogue and staring at faces all day rather than watching kung fu movies of people beating the crap out of each other. Most people said Swarm of the Century was boring despite it being 90% action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeV6YBRc7WQ&list=PL9tqW8_pdCl4gQbtve7LXrUg_wA0kNLZC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3XJiqxCdTg
Ironically Rob Renzetti has a much more innocent and feminine side than Faust who's very boyish with her style as proven by DC SHG.


There's another thing adults and kids alike care about; world design, lore, consistency, sense of grandness yet neatly structured world design that fits together in a clean way and builds upon itself rather than one-shot areas that get used, forgotten and thrown out immediately like Gryphonstone and the Kirin village. People care much more about Canterlot than Griffonstone.
This consistency akin to a train following its tracks is the neatness part that attracts autists including gacha/pokemon collectors. A hybrid of simplistic at first yet complex under the hood attracts a wide demographic.

(How do we decide?) you tried with flawed democracy now we try with monarchy. I decide what passes and what doesn't. My Discord is redmics if anyone wants to contact me. This tripcode won't last long.

Previous thread AKA the bumpfest.
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42117820/
>>42320976
>>42417119
Vogelfag revealed !LH2gTIJ8P6 No.42419776 >>42423172 >>42424599
>Can we actually animate this?
Hell no. You can make an animatic series or not even a comic book but illustrations. I think we need about 3 more years for AI to fully develop to the point any retard can animate. Even in 2 years you'll still require somebody who knows what he's doing... I mean this "CGI" Anime video has been made 2 years ago yet nobody replicated it because people(especially jeets) are lazy retards who refuse to use live-action footage and refuse to crack Sony Vegas and use the denoising feature. You'd require a lot of easy to mold horse figurines with facial features and it would still look off just like being able to only choose 1 out of 16 voice generated samples. Working with AI is like working with a genie in a bottle if you had to make 10000th of a complete wish. AI will always be a tool just like tweening which only the true experts can use properly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWZOEFvczzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO8v-RVKwSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLGlrY7cooY

However don't worry your pretty little heads about the quality of the audio visual medium yet...
because none of you are moving an inch until you get the fucking fanfic done correctly and I assure you you're not getting past me.
Anonymous No.42419784
>>42419769 (OP)
We're so back new content bros.
Vogelfag revealed !LH2gTIJ8P6 No.42419791
Feel free to discuss pacing/structure, storytelling/narration, atmosphere, characters, dialogue instead of filling up the thread with bumps.
Basically the pros & cons of S1 and similar shows to it.

I personally can discuss the pros & cons of Hilda. Really decent show that got better, S3 was great, but it's obvious the webcomic writer had no formal education in writing and overall experience like Lars & Tove Jansson behind Moomin Valley. The creator behind Northern Journey also created an amazing atmosphere which most high-budget movies have trouble emulating even back in the 90s. I only felt portions of that atmosphere in Hilda in specific episodes, never for the entire series and never for entire episodes but it felt refreshing, it felt the opposite of a formulaic Canadian show since it isn't one just like MLP's felt very similar to Rob Renzetti's works.

I really like this thread too.
>>42417119 The Last Unicorn, the legend of Pegasus, etc. there's a lot of things to learn so you do not keep making the same mistake. You always have to start from 0, not from 1. It is wrong to start calculating from 1 instead of 0.
Anonymous No.42420104
>>42419769 (OP)
Sweet, I was worried this thread wouldn't come back.
Can't wait to see all the new progress everyone has made.
Anonymous No.42420134 >>42421170
>>Can we actually animate this?
>Hell no.
Not with that attitude!!
Anonymous No.42420388 >>42420623
you just need to kidnap-I mean convince some fandom voice actors to record lines and animators to animate your episode. /mlp/ was already able to create an annual compilation (the antithology), it might be difficult to get the same people to animate an episode over the course of a few months or less but it won't be impossible.

the antithology is proof that if your desire to see it happen is even half as strong as your desire to CIRD, it will happen.

you can do it, /mlp/. you have to believe!
Anonymous No.42420421 >>42420636
>>42419769 (OP)
>vogeltroon OP
This thread is somehow even worse than the previous ones LMAO. Completely DOA.
Anonymous No.42420623
>>42420388
>not just using anons to voice act ala RDP
wheres the soul?
Anonymous No.42420636
>>42420421
You got something serious to say or it's just your usual gen-Z wagecuck retardation?
Anonymous No.42420869 >>42423172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO8v-RVKwSM
https://files.catbox.moe/gbduuw.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/vd97l8.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/va0xmn.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/tyg9wl.mp4

Im going to go on the same goddamn rant i had last night diving with my pony niggers

the whole "AI animation" dream is retarded, not in the sense that AI can't help with it, but that the people spouting it fail to recognize how you could up the quality by a fucking massive exponent if you were to just make key frames then let AI possibly do the inbetweens

AI exists to remove manual labor, not the literal artistic style and direction of the entire animation, animation has subtle things in which it needs to express in order to come across as having soul, without it the animation gets into pure slop territory

Although i would like to mention the starting out small with comic strips is genius considering you could put in less work for more "product testing" as it were since you can simply DUB the comic after to see if the voices are up to par, with more attention and perceived success the project will likely recruit MORE anons and MORE talent for an even better final product if your end goal is a fully animated episode!
Anonymous No.42421170
>>42420134
I believe...
Anonymous No.42421755
If seeing is believing...
Anonymous No.42422582
Hail to the king, baby.
Anonymous No.42422648
Technically this would be the 4th thread but don't let that bother you.
Anonymous No.42422960 >>42423121 >>42423142 >>42423792
So anyone care to pick a fanfic?
Anonymous No.42423117
>>42419769 (OP)
You sound like you know more than us about the soul of the show. Why don't you write the script?
Vogelfag revealed !LH2gTIJ8P6 No.42423121 >>42423272
>>42422960
My favorite author (by a lot!) is headless_rainbow, so I'd love if we could adapt Celestia's Relaxing Vacation:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/197090/celestias-relaxing-vacation
It really has that Renzetti & Faust magic to it. It's too long for our first project, though. We should start with Derpy's Finest Hour:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/13740/derpys-finest-hour
After the success of that project, we'll have the momentum to tackle something bigger.
Anonymous No.42423142 >>42423272 >>42423792
>>42422960
If I understand correctly, it needs the following requirements:
>short enough to be an episode of the show and actually be within the realm of possibility to complete
>consistent with S1 lore
>similar tone/content to S1
>each of the M6 must have at least a moment to shine
>contain or at least have room for lots of visual gags and/or action
That's gotta narrow the list down quite a bit, right?
Anonymous No.42423172
>>42420869
It's so fucking surreal reading a post that copy and pasted something i typed out months ago and slowly realizing that it was my own post as i read further
>https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42117820/#42118755

But yeah i still believe this sentiment, Ai can remove fuck tons of manual labor but dear god never let it be the deciding factor of the style like in that damn first video in this post >>42419776

The tax breaks video (third link) in that post is an amazing example of what I meant by not 'full' animation but plenty of effort for entertainment purposes, although tax breaks is on the higher end, I wasn't even talking about a starting production that's on the level of tax breaks, I meant even smaller but tax breaks is a good last or second to last iteration before full animation
Vogelfag revealed No.42423272 >>42427167
>>42423121
Fututi mortii matii. BΔƒga-mi-aş pula in mata si in toata familia ta.
This is the last time I use faggot as a password.

>>42423142
Yeah and study Renzetti and Faust's style. I've seen a lot of people thinking Sunny Skies All Day Long is Faust's style because for some retarded reason people think that "Hey it feels exactly like a dumb children's cartoon show and Celestia is crying and having a "Noo noo don't look at me, stop treating me like royalty uwu oh woe is me" is somehow perfectly in line with S1, obviously it isn't.
when Celestia is a careless arrogant prideful Chad Thundercock of a character that basically exudes Mary Sue's goodness, benevolence and gets away with everything. She'd be the last faggot to cry and be bothered by something.
Anonymous No.42423481
Vogelfag never did anything of value.
Anonymous No.42423777
bump for new content
/r/ No.42423792
>>42422960
>>42423142
you might want to start by asking:

/mlp/, which fanfics do you think would be the most likely to be made into episodes of FIM if the show was still running and under Faust's authority?
Anonymous No.42423961 >>42426843
Where are our animators? Did we lose them?
Anonymous No.42423965 >>42423973 >>42426843
>>42419769 (OP)
will we get any progress?
Anonymous No.42423973
>>42423965
We'll wait our monarch's decisions
Anonymous No.42424599 >>42424614
>>42419776
Vogelchad we don't deserve you.

WE'RE SO BACK YOU DON'T KNOW HOW BACK WE ARE.
Anonymous No.42424614 >>42424631
>>42424599
>samefagging
How about you get off this board and beg your mother to rape your ass again?
Anonymous No.42424631
>>42424614
>Samefagging
Bitch, are you retarded? Of course you are, you're a Tamersfag. Go back to your Tamers general little faggot.
Anonymous No.42424650
I like to imagine the ponies are roughly the same age as their equestrian girl counterparts. So that would put them in the age range of about 18 or 19.
However, I have a theory that in Equestria, ponies mature much faster than humans do, which means they could've been legally considered an adult at age 14 or 15 in pony years.
As for Spike the dragon, I like to imagine there's at least a 7-year difference between him and Twilight age-wise.
Because dragons can presumably live for thousands of years, Spike is still considered a baby in dragon years. In pony years, Spike is actually a teenager, which would still technically make him a minor.
However, in the later seasons of the show, he could be considered an adult because he could be old enough to be one in pony years.
Anonymous No.42424871 >>42424937
Time for 500 bumps again.

Also yes you can animate using AI, albeit you need the existing frames and somebody who created a proper LoRA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RCWlmnvMGM&ab_channel=PixeltoReality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8eSyirGC_c&ab_channel=PixelReal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIoqmgpYHlw&ab_channel=Niccyan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yySCladPfzE&ab_channel=MTAGamer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIoqmgpYHlw&ab_channel=Niccyan
Anonymous No.42424937 >>42425019 >>42425962
>>42424871
>Using AI
That's not how we make new content here.
Silver Spoon No.42425019
>>42424937
>here
Yeah you don't make content, period. Learned how to use a PC yet, green monkey?
Anonymous No.42425962 >>42431619
>>42424937
That's a funny way to say "We don't know how to use AI and we don't make content around here".
Anonymous No.42426741
emergency bump
Anonymous !!4b9yN7BgEzA No.42426843
>>42423961
my guess is they're still recovering from the antithology.

>>42423965
>there isn't even a discussion about which fanfic to go with
I tried to get that discussion going and literally noone picked up on it.
might as well pack this thread up and move to the fanfiction thread... whenever it comes back.
Anonymous No.42427167 >>42428109
>>42423272
>Sunny Skies All Day Long is Faust's style because for some retarded reason people think that "Hey it feels exactly like a dumb children's cartoon show and Celestia is crying and having a "Noo noo don't look at me, stop treating me like royalty uwu oh woe is me" is somehow perfectly in line with S1, obviously it isn't.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/20685/sunny-skies-all-day-long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIX47q5vSPc&ab_channel=ScribblerProductions

Well let's give it a read. I'm interested what the anons in this thread have to say compared to what our monarch has said.
Anonymous No.42427439 >>42427448
Which way, green man?
>>42420752
Anonymous No.42427448 >>42427873
>>42427439
Giger-inspired episode PLSSSSS
Anonymous No.42427873
>>42427448
*SPITS DRINK* you know.... the contrast might work since all ghost stories require normalcy, but ... magical multi-colored equines in a DnD world are not exactly "normal" and especially not mundane.
Anonymous !!4b9yN7BgEzA No.42428109 >>42428448
>>42427167
well, I kek'd a few times while listening to that reading video. I think that this fanfic actually does a far better job at conveying the message that Celestia and Luna wanted to live a non-royal life than that one FIM episode I forgot the name of.

and now I want to see this fanfic turned into an actual episode. it doesn't have to be FIM-level animation, it just has to be better than Friendship Is Tragic.
Anonymous No.42428448
>>42428109
>than that one FIM episode I forgot the name of.
Anything is better than that parody where Celestia is a literal talking mascot pretending to be Superman, except Superman doesn't talk like Metroman.
Anonymous No.42428754
Do zoomers really?
Anonymous !!4b9yN7BgEzA No.42428771
this is not pony but I thought someone from /mlp/ might find this information useful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcSzykZqzds

the point being that there are methods to make animating easier. the way bajer presents shapekeys makes me think it's a more hands-on equivalent of the AI method that someone talked about earlier in this thread (AKA key frames).

so I hope this helps.
Anonymous No.42429306 >>42429423 >>42429483 >>42429866
What's wrong with Tamers? he brings 30 minute episodes every 2 weeks and isn't afraid of nothing.
Anonymous !!EXYg+sdkmI7 No.42429423
>>42429306
He's not entertaining.
Anonymous No.42429483
>>42429306
His recent stuff sucks. Actually, everything after DOTS except the Coco episode sucks.
Anonymous No.42429866 >>42430615
>>42429306
His stills aren't well detailed like anime and he doesn't put 24 frames into the fighting sequences. Also he uses the weakest form of AI voice.
Anonymous No.42430231 >>42430362
Can AI generate show accurate content?
Anonymous !!4b9yN7BgEzA No.42430362 >>42437011
>>42430231
can? plausibly.
difficult? possibly.
effort? definitely.
will anyone actually get it done? doubtfully.
Anonymous No.42430615
>>42429866
Somebody could run all his images through AI and suddenly you'd have classical art levels of detail.
Anonymous No.42431549
I love the gamejam was running at the same time with that bumpfest of a general showing that the average /mlp/fag is incapable of even the most basic shit and the 1% of /mlp/ are the ones doing something if you know who to call.

You faggots still didn't pick even 1 fanfic to read?
Anonymous No.42431619
>>42425962
Ai is for bugmans and browns. This is what poofeshional proompters did, and it's still shit.
https://www.dexerto.com/league-of-legends/deleted-lol-cinematic-under-fire-as-fans-bash-riots-use-of-ai-3233962/
Anonymous No.42431800 >>42431940 >>42432196
So why are gen-alphas specifically so anti AI?
Anonymous No.42431940
>>42431800
Too much exposure to it on TikTok.
Anonymous No.42432112 >>42432201
I just think it is hilarious how you guys are twiddling your thumbs while other people are producing real animated episodes of My Little Pony as we speak.
>https://youtu.be/ypzHKI0M3ZU?si=0M0aZgXMk47LOkFz
Anonymous No.42432196 >>42432270
>>42431800
They can recognize cheap trashy copouts for what it is
Anonymous No.42432201
>>42432112
>AIslop
buy an ad
Anonymous No.42432270
>>42432196
>Gen-alpha can recognize cheap trashy copouts for what it is
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHHAHA can you say that again with a straight face?
Anonymous No.42432909 >>42433671
There are people doing things, just not from this General and 99% not from /mlp/. Most of the stuff happens outside of /mlp/. /mlp/ instead is quite dying indeed.
Anonymous No.42433671
>>42432909
Well said. PPP has been dead for quite a while since everybody refuses to use anything but local when their PCs don't even have 3090s
Anonymous No.42433688 >>42433990
It is over, Anakin. AI has the high ground.

https://x.com/dreamingtulpa/status/1952860840987902122
Anonymous No.42433990
>>42433688
You underestimate my power ....

>human gets caught tracing AI art
ACK
Anonymous No.42435368
The saga continues....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirRWSoxuYU&list=RDPirRWSoxuYU&start_radio=1&ab_channel=Sloth809
Anonymous No.42437011
>>42430362
I may or may not be interested to see a show accurate animation.
Anonymous No.42437171
Be careful out there.
Anonymous No.42437964 >>42438156 >>42438390
can you make a mare EXPLODE?
Anonymous No.42438156 >>42438390
>>42437964
Can you do that? Can you explode TWICE?
Anonymous No.42438390 >>42438393
>>42437964
>>42438156
I can't make a mare EXPLODE but I can EXPLODE her head with a 12 gauge shotgun
Anonymous No.42438393
>>42438390
I hope you live a half life for killing a unicorn.
Anonymous No.42438400
This is the thread
Anonymous No.42438487
SEASON 2 IS NOT CANON
Anonymous No.42439213
content bump
Anonymous No.42439636
Choose a fanfic already you bastards.
Anonymous No.42439998
And then you HIT EM WITH YOUR MARE STARE