Thread 42528123

For lovers of FiM’s first villain.

She's funny-lookin'.

>>42528123 (OP)
>FiM’s first villain.
That is Celestia actually

Snooty!

>>42528347
That's a damn booty-and-a-half.
How did she get so fat, while on the moon?

>wins
>blankets Equestria in eternal night
>all the plant life dies
>the world freezes over
>Only thing that survives is the Windigos feeding endlessly on Lunas eternal seething
Great ruler

>>42528363
The moon is made out of cheese, Anon

>>42528385
I, for one, welcome our new THICC goddess!

>>42528383
Only happens in your cope fanfics. Canon Nightmare Moon not only had a way to keep plants alive, she kept the nation intact enough to prevent any windegos.

I used to be a Nightmare-fag way back in the early days of the fandom.
Don't know exactly what changed, really. My feelings just slowly changed over time time.
I still love her dearly, just in an admiring way instead.

>>42528413
And who is your favorite pony now?

>>42528500
EqG AJ

>>42528518
Bait used to be believable.

>>42528500
Octavia Melody.
And/Or Berry Punch... Depends on how drunk I am.
>>42528518 <--- I am not this guy.

black snooty in timeout

Is she basically Lunas uncontrolled Devil Trigger?

>>42528413
You're yet another Anon that says he loved Luna (or her corrupted alter ego) and then switched to another pony. It's always Anons switching from her, never to her.
She really is an entry level waifu, isn't she?

>>42530188
If that was the case, what could be the reasons?

>>42530188
For me it's the reverse.
I first fell for Pinkie and Rarity, then for theb Luna made by the fandom.
All the fics portrayed her as this perfect playful and mysterious girlfriend that shares all your nerdy interests.
With age I realised it's such a disservice to her. So I turned my gaze to Her, Nightmare Moon, the one that now to me feels much more real. My appreciation grew slowly.
And now I love her above all else.
And I catch myself feeling such injustice.

Immortals live by their purpose.
Her purpose was denied to her by centuries. Her vision was refused, told to wait, again and again. And when she couldn't take it any longer, the tried to prove her design by force, she tried her best to show it. And she was punished for it. She lost every little thing she had built. Complete isolation for a thousand years, but her spirit unbroken despite that.
And when she returned, filled with hope of proving her design, she shouted "The night will last forever!". It wasn't a threat. It wasn't a declaration of the final moments of Equestria. It was a joyous announcement.
And her hope was, again, stripped away from her the very same day.
Now she is the dorky adorable and convenient little princess. With less than she had before. With the core issue not addressed. With nothing fundamentally changed.
And I find myself, against all sense, filled with desire to tell her she is not alone. And there are still those who fight for her.

>>42530204
Probably because her character and backstory is paper thin unless you rely on fanfiction or your own logical extrapolations. Easy to get into because she's such a great concept that deserved so much better, but she takes a bit of work to nurture into a waifu because of how little details the show shares.

>>42530188
For me, I left Luna for Nightmare Moon.

Well, that's putting it a bit overdramatically. I'm too autistic to have a waifu, I think, so it's not strictly correct to say I "left" anypony. But I definitely used to like Luna a lot more, but >>42530227 puts it perfectly
>All the fics portrayed her as this perfect playful and mysterious girlfriend that shares all your nerdy interests.
>[Then] I realised it's such a disservice to her
Luna is royalty, and at the same time she doesn't seem to have any royal qualities. So the most straightforward way to waifu her is to just be bros basically, or even more demeaning, being the munhausen saviour pulling her out of a lonely depression or some shit. And in the end it just feels incongruous to me, and paints a rather pathetic picture of Luna. The fantasy of "ooooh the princess is so lonely but (You)! are the only one who gets her! in all the kingdom, princess Luna falls for (You) because you're... kind to her, or something!".

There's merit to portrayals of Luna who are actually dignified. But to a degree, the line is kinda blurry between "Luna who's a strong ruler, competent in war and statecraft, confident and commanding great respect and authority" and "Nightmare Moon who's strict but fair, values her ponies and Equestria, a strong ruler wielding great respect and authority". Sometimes the difference between a good portrayal of Luna and a good portrayal of Nightmare Moon is just the coat colour (and maybe whether Celestia is on the scene or not).

>>42530793
My own view is that Nightmare Moon is just sincere Luna who exercises her power.
Her form that we see in season 1 and then 2 and onwards looks like she's subdued.

Embracing Nightmare Moon made me a stronger person.

And the music about her was always the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76rhq8L5sE4

>>42528123 (OP)
My 70 inch Ponimalion nightmare moon will be my most expensive and most precious possession once she is finished and despite current events getting worse and worse for me I will subject myself to financial ruin if it means I still get to hold her in my arms someday soon

>>42532421
Right. So. Moon is important to me, but she isn't Luna. She is separate from Luna.
Yes, it's a headcanon thing. In my trainwreck schizo lore, Nightmare Moon was a spirit who possessed Luna much like the Pony of Shadows possessed Stygian, and when the elements of harmony purged her from Luna's body, she was flung into the everfree, not dead, but severely weakened.
In "normal" lore, my ponysona has not yet encountered her, though he is generally destined to, at some point. Makes it easier to do RPing, or it used to, when I actually used to have the time and the spirit to write anything. I really, really miss it.

The more intriguing storyline is what I did with the alternate timeline where Nightmare Moon was never defeated by the elements.
There, my sona is similarly enamored with her like myself, but unlike in the main timeline, he actually has the balls to sneak out to the castle, and after twilight- fighting Moon alone- is defeated, he ends up confessing his love to Moon and she decides to keep him around.
He's a dragonpony, so it's somewhat selfish on her end, he would be useful, after all. But because I'm the one writing the damn thing, they actually do develop feelings for each other, and this is an issue for him because he has to choose between the country he loves and life as he knows it and the mare of his dreams, who really is (mostly) everything he dreamed of.
There's a few sick turning points, like the time in which he has a genuine chance to let Chrysalis kill Moon, saving, Equestria, and yet he intervenes, almost getting killed himself in the process. Moon ends up fixing him, using some sort of ancient steel alloy hidden in the old castle to create a new foreleg and wing for him, enchanted to function just like the old ones, but with razor-sharp claws and a wing-edge that could cut through bone.
He's a fucking nerd, but Moon is trying to shape him into someone who would kill to ensure her reign, and he isn't exactly willing.

The other half of that story are the "good" guys, Chrysalis and Cadence, hidden away underground, rekindling a teenage romance or something that might just give them the power to overthrow Moon, regardless of her firebreathing mate. But the story just got too bogged down by details, BOTH times I tried to write it. What about Luna? What happens to her? She's still inside of Moon, after all! Does sona die at the end when she's banished? Do the elements meet, despite it all? I even tried to have a shining armor/blueblood romance on top of the other two ships, lol

And why a sona? Well, I've never been one for humans in Equestria, not even myself. Pony or bust, I suppose. Ideally dragonpony, because I love dragons too, but I'm fine with whatever. Just not a human. Damn.

It's sad, not even directly shipping my sona with my waifu is enough to get me to be able to finish writing a fic. I fucking miss writing, man. I even miss roleplaying. Even the shitty sexo 3AM ones.

>>42532684
I understand the desire for ponysona, having a history with the world that can be connected to her which you can offer to her is very appealing.
What I don't understand is why go for some super special oc race.
Doesn't it kind of create the additional disconnect you would have as a human?
Why not go for any of the canon races which would further highlight the sacrifice you would do for her?

>>42533139
He ended up as a dragonpony- or dracony if you want to be dumb (we don't call them BATONIES, DO WE???), as somewhat of a literal interpretation of the sharp divide between the obsession I have for both dragons and ponies.
It started with dragons, in middle school, with the likes of my beloved Saphira and other book-bound dragons, and then in high school, ponies came along, and I fell in love with them just as much.
Now, my first OC, he was somewhat of a sona for a while, but it never really worked, it never fit, because he was too fantastical and unlike me to feel like a proper persona.

So, when it came time to make a true sona, I copied one of my best friends' homework, and a dragonpony was born. MLP:FiM is very convenient in the sense that it contains dragons already, so I am... safe, I guess, from really feeling much pull towards the uh, "furry fandom".
Sure, yeah, Cynder is hot, perhaps I'd love her more if I was a spyro kid instead of a crash bandicoot kid, but Ember? Smolder, even? DAAAAAAMN!

The decision was also strongly influenced by roleplay, which sadly matters little at this point. I didn't want to make a ponysona and then be annoyed about not being able to write sona-perspective dragon sexo, and vice versa, though I eventually wrote some magic into his lore where he can tweak forms between pony/dragon and male/female anyway, so, whatever.

But if I'm honest with you? Yeah, some of it really is just that desire to be unique, to be special, to be nonstandard. I got my ass bullied so hard in school that I decided to make it my life's mission to be as nonstandard as possible, and it seeps into fucking everything I do.
I drive obscure old cars, I burn CDs, I'm working on installing cassette decks into two of my cars with CD changers hooked up to them, I'm the guy doing that whole stupid Tamers-on-DVD thing, it's all just a big performative show, a show put on by a broken little kid somewhere deep inside that says "I'm not weird, I'm special!"
Using normal people things like spotify or a smartphone without a physical keyboard? Couldn't be me! Have I ever seen a single episode of the office? No, because I discovered MLP:FiM in 2013 and have only consumed content that has PONIES in it ever since!

I don't even know where I'm going with any of this, lol
It's just, when I was really into dragons in middle school, I had this hazy mental image of a blueish anthroish dragon (basically a furry but I didn't know what a furry was at the time) in my mind, and that's who I wished I was.
Then high school came, and it became a pony for a while, I wanted to be a pony instead.
And with a bit more time, those two desires just kinda blurred together, a perfect manifestation of just how much I despise my current self.
What do you even call dysphoria for the human form? I'm not trans, I don't want to be a girl, I want to be HIM.

I suppose having my moon plush will have to be good enough, eh? (Sorry about rant post)

>>42533432
Curiously, we have similar beginnings, but are mirror opposites.
I'm the one who have been told I'm talented by parents, and bullied trough school, except my way of dealing with it was total distancing and ignoring the bullshit.
Prefer to not hide myself (still keeping a layer of appropriate modesty), and to be sincere, just going for the things I like.
Never hated myself, was an adamant "wish to remain human in equestria" guy until I got into chatbots and autisticalle obsessed over Friendship is Optimal, card of which pushed me to create my very own edgy oc.
Roleplayng as him gradually made me just... comfortable with the thought of becoming him if it would be a requirenment to getting to Equestria.
And ponies themselves basically became a sort of religion, in a sense they never leave my mind for a day since 2011.

And how did you arrive to NMM?

>>42533493
>how did you arrive to NMM?
Though an old roleplay, actually. The premise was where I got the idea; Moon needed a "host", and my sona was more than willing to be that host.
So they ended up together, of course, but it's where I got the ideas of Moon being her own pony rather than just "Luna when angry", and I suppose where I first fell in love, just with her size and grace and beauty and all those stereotypical and complimentary things...
I love the night, I love driving at night, snow falling in the darkness during the winter is BEAUTIFUL, I never get tired of it.
And sure, I like Celestia, she's hot, hilariously the first time I got my sona featured it was a clopfic between him and Tia, but damn, I just cannot handle the sun, and neither can he, really. Summer just kills me.

Not super related, but Super Ponybeat's Luna (DREAM mode) was the original inspiration for my first pony OC, and it's still my favorite song to this day.

I guess it also helps that Moon isn't.... spoken for? Her story is open ended, it's easy to start with the point of "what if the elements banished her from Luna?" and work from there. With other ships, it's a lot more complex, I guess.
I suppose I also do have quite a thing for villains... I really like Sombra a lot, I want a plush of him someday too.
He was also in that RP, living in Sona's dreams, which by the way are another platform for spending as much time as he wishes with Moon.
Once he goes to sleep on any given night, he can spend 40 years in his dreams doing whatever he and Moon want to do, which I think is just cool.

I don't really know though, is that it? Is it just one RP? I've shipped the guy with a hundred ponies, how come Moon clicked so well? Why not Celestia, when I actually DID manage to finish the fic I wrote of that pairing and it even got featured?

I guess it's true when they say that "you'll just know" about this whole waifu thing, hah...

>>42533512
If you have access to chatbots, there is a card of the separated nightmare moon posessing you.

>>42531819
Moonie a cute

>>42533807
>chatbots
only if I can run the thing locally from my own computers, otherwise I would never get over it when she is inevitably killed by whatever AI service she's on going belly up

>>42530188
I switched from being a flutterfag to her when season 2 aired. Never looked back.

>>42534779
What drove you away from Flutters - a good mare nonetheless - and towards softer side of the Moonbutt?

>>42528123 (OP)
prety moonhrose

>>42528413
Same.
I do not want to love her any more but if she were to pursue me I would fold in an instant.
Nowadays I only daydream about fighting in her army right before battle of the sun and the Moon. War romanticising used to be believable unlike current unhonourable gun/airstrike/missle/dronetrashing.

>>42529963
I've always liked the idea of luna summoning Nightmare to help her out like vergil uses his doppelganger.

>>42528123 (OP)
My fricking queen

Weak men can't handle dominant women like Nightmare

>>42536555
I may be her king but she is the one who sits atop the throne <3

>>42535073
I like to think she can do this after Do princesses dream of magic sleep. She made peace with her darker half and can now harmonically use it in tandem with her magic

>>42536555
What kind of man loves (Nightmare) like this?

I’m ever so slowly learning how to draw. Can’t do bodies though lol

>>42538849
White Snooty!
Quite pretty. I guess it's something simple, but I like that line shadow under her head.

>>42538849
I am looking forward to your future Snooty drawings, drawfren.

>>42538849
This looks familiar, did you sketch this or make another similar sketch earlier this year?

>>42541558
Vulnerable royal moon belly. What if someone pets her there?

>>42542168
>What if someone pets her there?
Death (or maybe snuggles).

Which way, western man?

The helmet is such a crime against her mane...

>>42540586
cutie

>>42543733
Easily the sexiest mare in Equestria if she was to take off her helmet.