Thread 42540611

Welcome to Chatbot AI General #141, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42515304

**News:**
- Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/
- Deepseek V3.1 released: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312
- OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
- Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5

Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>42515307

Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)

Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.

Bots corner:

Peanut Brittle: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/Peanut%20Brittle.png
Sitting Mare:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sitting%20Mare.png

Screenshots corner:

Radio Heart >>42515343
Marecock Anon's fate >>42516804
How to make a portal >>42518337
Four-channel >>42519047
Carrot cake >>42519660
Delightfully devilish >>42521420
Gemini's tendencies >>42522701
Tiny mare >>42523903
Starlight Glimmer Deadly Brap >>42524259

Screenshots corner 2:

Fear the Ponk >>42524548
Alice in Wonderland style >>42524637, >>42524735, >>42524866
Proclivities >>42525225
The Z word >>42525519
Dragon cum >>42526163
Based mother >>42527522
Pratchett >>42528405

Screenshots corner 3:

Shiny Catch >>42528114, >>42528208, >>42528262
Orgasmic Boop >>42529970
Belly Rubs >>42533470
Unhinged Celestia >>42535353
We all lost >>42539057
New Kimi 2 >>42539309
Downing Street Flash >>42539942

Screenshots corner 4:

Willow Ember >>42539825, >>42539865
Group chat >>42540273, >>42540335, >>42540383, >>42540428

VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod and Nightmare AU):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

VN logs:

Dashie's fic >>42515437
Cute Celly >>42517954, >>42517971
Dash vs Cloud >>42518447
Bats! >>42518703
Night and Nightmare guards >>42518833
Luna bucks >>42522052
Rainbowshine >>42527590
Sailor Dash >>42531484

VN logs 2:

Adventure with Starlight
>>42523059, >>42523268, >>42523318, >>42523464, >>42523493, >>42533691, >>42533730, >>42533773, >>42537585

VN logs 3:

Ominous Celestia >>42531533
Matchmaking >>42532754
Coincidence >>42532759, >>42533159
Pear Butter >>42534975, >>42536100

>>42540620
These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Tutorial and video:
aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/

Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai

Dashie!

Lovemaking with AI mares!

>>42540228
Added, thanks anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sitting%20Mare.png

>>42540709
Aw shit. It's gonna be a pain in my ass to find/make night versions of these locations.

>>42540709
What's Rarity doing all the way over there? Are you planning on adding airships?

>>42540876
Reference to this.
The background for the airship harbor is here, but there's no system for the airships right now, maybe later if we find a use for them.

>>42540709
Do you have a Donut Joes shop background? I tried to find one, but I didn't get any progress.

>>42540888
>maybe later if we find a use for them
It could be a cool alternative to the train for going to different cities from Canterlot if any more eventually get added.

I need to know how to permanently erase all of the VN data. Like, every last save and scrap. Somehow, I have corrupted two of the save slots on the second set of saves permanently. It doesn't matter what I do, even if I start a completely new file and save to them, it will fire an error upon loading those two slots.

I'm guess it has to do with loading older saves in newer versions of the VN

>>42541180
Head to appdata\roaming, find RenPy, last I checked the folder is called ChagTest but I haven't used the VN in a while. Delete that and the saves should all be gonezo.

>>42541180
C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\Renpy\ChagTest

anyone else finding Gemini 2.5 is superior for mares?
post favorite setup

>>42541278
Nigga do I look like I’m made of bits

>>42540261
A light card based on The Conversation Bureau that generates a list of affected human families, exactly how they were affected and what help they received. The Conversation has been mixed with a similar map, but which generates a list not of affected humans, but a list of places in Equestria where the human armies that have infiltrated Equestria have committed war crimes.
>>42541278
Gemini 2.5 is the best model at all. I played around with the Shadowrun card a bit yesterday and moved the scenario from the 2050s to 2013. Sonnet made a lot of lore mistakes, like trolls and orcs in 2013 (they appeared in 2021). Gemini only talks about UNE (the event that caused the elves and dwarves to appear occured in 2012) and even mentions PDAs with black and green screens and the Grid (the analog of the internet in the background of the Shadowrun timeline, destroyed in 2029). I asked Gemini for a description of the PDA from 2013, and he gave it to me. I enter it into Craiyon and get a cool picture of a PDA with an antenna and qwerty keyboard.

>>42540654

I'm a bit embarassed to see that my adventure took up an entire post by itself. I guess I posted more than I thought... I hope it was at least entertaining to some. I'll have to see where Dreamweaver's story goes from there, and post some highlights if it gets interesting again.

>>42540861
I also recognize your pain. May the stars guide you to success.

>>42540709
Can't remember where I got this, but it instantly reminded me of this map.

>>42541278
Is flash usable?

is there any way to use kimi with agnai?

>>42540645
Willow is just my OC I play as whenever I need a pony only chat. The screenshots would be better attributed to Sitting Mare.

>>42541528
based on one single gen I just made, absolutely not

>>42541449
>Shadowrun card
where'd you get that? no matches on chub

>>42541737
I made it myself from Cyberpunk 2020 card.

>>42541744
share please

>>42541747
https://litter.catbox.moe/5ya2be.png

>>42540861
Canterlot does have some good night backgrounds.
Streets and places:
https://derpibooru.org/images/3156456
https://derpibooru.org/images/274672
Royal Garden:
https://derpibooru.org/images/2678896
https://derpibooru.org/images/2678872
https://derpibooru.org/images/582943
Throne room shouldn't be a problem.
The only one that does need a retouch is the airship harbor.
>>42540904
Here.

>>42541842
thanks fren. you able to run a campaign somehow? I assume the context limit makes that difficult

>>42541461
No need to feel embarrassed for posting logs of all things, and I do quite like them.
They were also more spaced out, I just regrouped everything to make it easier to follow.

>>42541944
Retouches aren't hard to do, just tedious.

>>42541985
>Can you campaign in any way?
I don't know what to say. I don't play long campaigns. Just small slices of life or generating things like PDA descriptions.
>Context limit makes it difficult to do that.
In ST you can expand the context limit, and Gemini has a good memory. As such, large context is bad because it makes the AI shizo bit more faster, that's all.

>>42542014
Nice one.

I can't seem to get the custom start in the VN to work at all. No matter what I write or which characters I choose, it brings me to a scene in front of Rainbows house.
Trying to start with Redheart at the hospital gave me an error about unknown format "horsepital". I then tried to start off in the Everfree with Twilight (basically the normal start but through Custom) and it gave no errors but also didn't actually gen anything.

>>42542325
Well, nevermind. Apparently the problem ONCE AGAIN was Gemini. Using Claude everything works fine.

>>42542380
2.5 Pro?
Weird, I remember trying some custom scenarios with it and it was able to somewhat keep up with them.

>>42542685
Yeah, pro. Also earlier it cut off a perfectly safe generation in ST so probably just had issues again.

>>42541449
have you used opus?

Do you also spend your days playing around with scenarios for potential roleplay, only to never boot up the Tavern? Had this routine going for nearly two months now,

>>42543142
Nah. I do think about new scenarios all the time, but once I come up with one that tickles me the right way I immediately start working on it.

>>42543024
Opus dumb like Sonnet, but writes very dry, not like Sonnet. At least that on Opus 6.

>>42543306
>on Opus 6
lol

>>42543377
Have to use what I have.

>>42543486
well, "what you have" isn't real opus

>>42543489
What about sonnet?

>>42543523
From what we know, Sonnet models are real.
Opus is 100% fake across all models (obviously for 5 and 6), and there were some tests to determine what models they actually are, but nothing really definitive was found.

>>42543581
>Sonnet models are real
So, sonnet exactly dumber than gemini. Sad.

>>42543617
sonnet (real) is not dumber than gemini. it's almost definitely scuffed

>>42543658
I want to preen a pegasus.

>>42543658
Do pegasi have preening glands?

I'm guessing the Sonoma models will soon leave the free period.
After trying them a bit, I wouldn't say they are bad, but they do feel like smaller models.
I wasn't very impressed in Silly or the VN, but they did give me a pretty good summary when I tested the function in the VN.

>>42544243
This post is an advertisement.

>>42540649
Hrm...

>>42544298
Kek.
Seems like the model confused both Carrots during a dynamic call.
New release or Dashie mod?
Looking at the CustomCharacter, the tag/id used for Carrot Top is 'carrot', so the model could have mixed them up when calling dynamically.
But the new release does provide the full name with it, so no excuses for the AI.

Do they brew alcohol out of carrots? The answer will decide my further actions in Equestria as I can possibly pitch this brand new idea to ponies

>>42544389
It is possible, and now I want to try it.

>>42544389
You can make carrot wine. It's quite easy.

>>42544389
anything that contains sugars or can be processed by yeasts can become an alcoholic drink. In the poor patches of Eastern Europe countryside that my father comes from, even hay

>>42544459
Yet somehow hay vodka seems more plausible than a carrot spirit for some reason

>>42544357
Dashie mod. I found it pretty funny but I just backed out and had it so Lyra started interrogating me in front of Applejack instead. I think it make Carrot Top out to be Mr. Cake because the AI had Applejack's market stall next to his and I'd mentioned Carrot Top earlier in the chat.

>>42544498
Dashie uses a cool system to save tokens for dynamic characters. The author talks about it here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42470284/#42479708
But in this case, funnily, it seems like the AI went "Carrot Cake tag should obviously be 'carrot'," saw that you did have an ID for 'carrot,' and used it.

Anyone have any JB for gemini that make it good at RPing

>>42544875
https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
https://rentry.org/fluffpreset

>>42544988
Are they any good

>>42545027
There's only one way you can answer that.

best smut jbs for sonnet 3.7?