Thread 42540611

Welcome to Chatbot AI General #141, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42515304

**News:**
- Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/
- Deepseek V3.1 released: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312
- OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
- Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5

Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>42515307

Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)

Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.

Bots corner:

Peanut Brittle: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/Peanut%20Brittle.png
Sitting Mare:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sitting%20Mare.png

Screenshots corner:

Radio Heart >>42515343
Marecock Anon's fate >>42516804
How to make a portal >>42518337
Four-channel >>42519047
Carrot cake >>42519660
Delightfully devilish >>42521420
Gemini's tendencies >>42522701
Tiny mare >>42523903
Starlight Glimmer Deadly Brap >>42524259

Screenshots corner 2:

Fear the Ponk >>42524548
Alice in Wonderland style >>42524637, >>42524735, >>42524866
Proclivities >>42525225
The Z word >>42525519
Dragon cum >>42526163
Based mother >>42527522
Pratchett >>42528405

Screenshots corner 3:

Shiny Catch >>42528114, >>42528208, >>42528262
Orgasmic Boop >>42529970
Belly Rubs >>42533470
Unhinged Celestia >>42535353
We all lost >>42539057
New Kimi 2 >>42539309
Downing Street Flash >>42539942

Screenshots corner 4:

Willow Ember >>42539825, >>42539865
Group chat >>42540273, >>42540335, >>42540383, >>42540428

VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod and Nightmare AU):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

VN logs:

Dashie's fic >>42515437
Cute Celly >>42517954, >>42517971
Dash vs Cloud >>42518447
Bats! >>42518703
Night and Nightmare guards >>42518833
Luna bucks >>42522052
Rainbowshine >>42527590
Sailor Dash >>42531484

VN logs 2:

Adventure with Starlight
>>42523059, >>42523268, >>42523318, >>42523464, >>42523493, >>42533691, >>42533730, >>42533773, >>42537585

VN logs 3:

Ominous Celestia >>42531533
Matchmaking >>42532754
Coincidence >>42532759, >>42533159
Pear Butter >>42534975, >>42536100

>>42540620
These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Tutorial and video:
aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/

Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai

Dashie!

Lovemaking with AI mares!

>>42540228
Added, thanks anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sitting%20Mare.png

>>42540709
Aw shit. It's gonna be a pain in my ass to find/make night versions of these locations.

>>42540709
What's Rarity doing all the way over there? Are you planning on adding airships?

>>42540876
Reference to this.
The background for the airship harbor is here, but there's no system for the airships right now, maybe later if we find a use for them.

>>42540709
Do you have a Donut Joes shop background? I tried to find one, but I didn't get any progress.

>>42540888
>maybe later if we find a use for them
It could be a cool alternative to the train for going to different cities from Canterlot if any more eventually get added.

I need to know how to permanently erase all of the VN data. Like, every last save and scrap. Somehow, I have corrupted two of the save slots on the second set of saves permanently. It doesn't matter what I do, even if I start a completely new file and save to them, it will fire an error upon loading those two slots.

I'm guess it has to do with loading older saves in newer versions of the VN

>>42541180
Head to appdata\roaming, find RenPy, last I checked the folder is called ChagTest but I haven't used the VN in a while. Delete that and the saves should all be gonezo.

>>42541180
C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\Renpy\ChagTest

anyone else finding Gemini 2.5 is superior for mares?
post favorite setup

>>42541278
Nigga do I look like I’m made of bits

>>42540261
A light card based on The Conversation Bureau that generates a list of affected human families, exactly how they were affected and what help they received. The Conversation has been mixed with a similar map, but which generates a list not of affected humans, but a list of places in Equestria where the human armies that have infiltrated Equestria have committed war crimes.
>>42541278
Gemini 2.5 is the best model at all. I played around with the Shadowrun card a bit yesterday and moved the scenario from the 2050s to 2013. Sonnet made a lot of lore mistakes, like trolls and orcs in 2013 (they appeared in 2021). Gemini only talks about UNE (the event that caused the elves and dwarves to appear occured in 2012) and even mentions PDAs with black and green screens and the Grid (the analog of the internet in the background of the Shadowrun timeline, destroyed in 2029). I asked Gemini for a description of the PDA from 2013, and he gave it to me. I enter it into Craiyon and get a cool picture of a PDA with an antenna and qwerty keyboard.

>>42540654

I'm a bit embarassed to see that my adventure took up an entire post by itself. I guess I posted more than I thought... I hope it was at least entertaining to some. I'll have to see where Dreamweaver's story goes from there, and post some highlights if it gets interesting again.

>>42540861
I also recognize your pain. May the stars guide you to success.

>>42540709
Can't remember where I got this, but it instantly reminded me of this map.

>>42541278
Is flash usable?

is there any way to use kimi with agnai?

>>42540645
Willow is just my OC I play as whenever I need a pony only chat. The screenshots would be better attributed to Sitting Mare.

>>42541528
based on one single gen I just made, absolutely not

>>42541449
>Shadowrun card
where'd you get that? no matches on chub

>>42541737
I made it myself from Cyberpunk 2020 card.

>>42541744
share please

>>42541747
https://litter.catbox.moe/5ya2be.png

>>42540861
Canterlot does have some good night backgrounds.
Streets and places:
https://derpibooru.org/images/3156456
https://derpibooru.org/images/274672
Royal Garden:
https://derpibooru.org/images/2678896
https://derpibooru.org/images/2678872
https://derpibooru.org/images/582943
Throne room shouldn't be a problem.
The only one that does need a retouch is the airship harbor.
>>42540904
Here.

>>42541842
thanks fren. you able to run a campaign somehow? I assume the context limit makes that difficult

>>42541461
No need to feel embarrassed for posting logs of all things, and I do quite like them.
They were also more spaced out, I just regrouped everything to make it easier to follow.

>>42541944
Retouches aren't hard to do, just tedious.

>>42541985
>Can you campaign in any way?
I don't know what to say. I don't play long campaigns. Just small slices of life or generating things like PDA descriptions.
>Context limit makes it difficult to do that.
In ST you can expand the context limit, and Gemini has a good memory. As such, large context is bad because it makes the AI shizo bit more faster, that's all.

>>42542014
Nice one.

I can't seem to get the custom start in the VN to work at all. No matter what I write or which characters I choose, it brings me to a scene in front of Rainbows house.
Trying to start with Redheart at the hospital gave me an error about unknown format "horsepital". I then tried to start off in the Everfree with Twilight (basically the normal start but through Custom) and it gave no errors but also didn't actually gen anything.

>>42542325
Well, nevermind. Apparently the problem ONCE AGAIN was Gemini. Using Claude everything works fine.

>>42542380
2.5 Pro?
Weird, I remember trying some custom scenarios with it and it was able to somewhat keep up with them.

>>42542685
Yeah, pro. Also earlier it cut off a perfectly safe generation in ST so probably just had issues again.

>>42541449
have you used opus?

Do you also spend your days playing around with scenarios for potential roleplay, only to never boot up the Tavern? Had this routine going for nearly two months now,

>>42543142
Nah. I do think about new scenarios all the time, but once I come up with one that tickles me the right way I immediately start working on it.

>>42543024
Opus dumb like Sonnet, but writes very dry, not like Sonnet. At least that on Opus 6.

>>42543306
>on Opus 6
lol

>>42543377
Have to use what I have.

>>42543486
well, "what you have" isn't real opus

>>42543489
What about sonnet?

>>42543523
From what we know, Sonnet models are real.
Opus is 100% fake across all models (obviously for 5 and 6), and there were some tests to determine what models they actually are, but nothing really definitive was found.

>>42543581
>Sonnet models are real
So, sonnet exactly dumber than gemini. Sad.

>>42543617
sonnet (real) is not dumber than gemini. it's almost definitely scuffed

>>42543658
I want to preen a pegasus.

>>42543658
Do pegasi have preening glands?

I'm guessing the Sonoma models will soon leave the free period.
After trying them a bit, I wouldn't say they are bad, but they do feel like smaller models.
I wasn't very impressed in Silly or the VN, but they did give me a pretty good summary when I tested the function in the VN.

>>42544243
This post is an advertisement.

>>42540649
Hrm...

>>42544298
Kek.
Seems like the model confused both Carrots during a dynamic call.
New release or Dashie mod?
Looking at the CustomCharacter, the tag/id used for Carrot Top is 'carrot', so the model could have mixed them up when calling dynamically.
But the new release does provide the full name with it, so no excuses for the AI.

Do they brew alcohol out of carrots? The answer will decide my further actions in Equestria as I can possibly pitch this brand new idea to ponies

>>42544389
It is possible, and now I want to try it.

>>42544389
You can make carrot wine. It's quite easy.

>>42544389
anything that contains sugars or can be processed by yeasts can become an alcoholic drink. In the poor patches of Eastern Europe countryside that my father comes from, even hay

>>42544459
Yet somehow hay vodka seems more plausible than a carrot spirit for some reason

>>42544357
Dashie mod. I found it pretty funny but I just backed out and had it so Lyra started interrogating me in front of Applejack instead. I think it make Carrot Top out to be Mr. Cake because the AI had Applejack's market stall next to his and I'd mentioned Carrot Top earlier in the chat.

>>42544498
Dashie uses a cool system to save tokens for dynamic characters. The author talks about it here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42470284/#42479708
But in this case, funnily, it seems like the AI went "Carrot Cake tag should obviously be 'carrot'," saw that you did have an ID for 'carrot,' and used it.

Anyone have any JB for gemini that make it good at RPing

>>42544875
https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
https://rentry.org/fluffpreset

>>42544988
Are they any good

>>42545027
There's only one way you can answer that.

best smut jbs for sonnet 3.7?

>>42545040
Fluff keep breaking and dumping text that have nothing to do with what i post

>>42545054
Is 3.7 still worth using when Sonnet 4 exists?

I wish this general was more active its my only source of social interaction after SillyTavern/Kimi

>>42545346
I find 3.7 more proactive and creative, and I prefer its prose to 4.
4 was more of a sidegrade than a straight upgrade, so you will have anons preferring one or the other.

>>42543142
literally me
i never have the time to do it tho

>>42545388
some nohomo affection your way fren

>>42543142
Same. I had so many ideas but I visit my front-end less and less now

>>42545346
i dont have access to sonnet 4

>>42543581
Both opus5 and 6 are disabled now, which is dumb given the name of the proxy

>>42543581
I have developed a prompt that can tell the difference between Sonnet and Opus. It's a very specific prompt that only works correctly if the LLM is of Opus level of intelligence. Would you all like to see what it is?

Trying out kimi 2 on sillytavern. Is there a suggested preset? I was going to try one of the universals on sukino's findings page unless there's a better suggestion.

>>42546148
0905? In a general sense, no. I've been using >>42539481 which is a slightly tweaked Sonnet preset with good results, but don't think there's any universally agreed upon standard yet.

>>42546179
Thanks! I'll give it a shot and see how it goes!

>>42546148
there are not many kimi presets, but this one is supposed to deslop some of the chinese models and make them smarter

Monster attack.

>>42546466
Based Stacy Berry.
>>42546494
Is there no hero to save a mare in need?

Opus gives bad request when chat history reaches 40k tokens on every Claude model.
60k limit does nothing, and my preset is below 500 tokens.

>>42546494
>horseticulture
heh

Is anyone else having issues with Aboba? When I try to get a reply it gets stuck and either gives me a proxy timeout or nothing.

>>42546570
OpenAI keys seem dead. Gemini works.

>>42546818
Damn, thanks for the heads up though.

Anons, is there any extension or script to hide all character avatars from every part of sillytavern? I'm living on hard mode and can't allow anyone to see a poner on my screen.

>>42546876
This I did, but by everywhere I mean character management menu too, can't find what will work there

>>42546900
I don't think there are native options, or any Tavern extensions that do that.
There are browser extensions that disable images with a single click, like:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/image-block/
Or you can use settings like this:
https://www.wikihow.com/Disable-Images-in-Google-Chrome

>>42546900
>mean character management menu too
as an alternative maybe try out this CSS picrel ?
https://pastebin.com/muj8mWgY
drop it in setting, custom CSS
it works for me but I am using quite old SillyTavern (1.12.8) - maybe this will break in more recent ST, in this case sorry and godspeed

>>42546916
Found a chrome extension, thanks, didn't think of that

What's the best JB to battle chorbo's relentless positivity?

>>42546863
Have you considered using the VN instead? It's muuuuch more discreet and your coworkers/parents will never know what you're doing

no but seriously I think it's possible to install a theme that makes your st interface look like Microsoft excel

>>42547383
I remember https://files.catbox.moe/slbcz4.json having a panel for that back then, but I don't know if it still works. Maybe it's worth trying on another preset.
5-Latest is overall worse in my opinion, but it seems less positivity-pilled.

>>42547383
Use a basic CoT that makes it think the answer through first and have it specifically overcompensate toward negativity

>>42543617
pus6 sonnet is dumber than gemini in what way?

I feel like the swaying motion of the next card in highlow has changed.
What does it mean?
Am I being a schizo?

Really wish at least I could have real sonnet. Opus6 feels too scuffed and is nice to have but I need some of those quality responses.

>>42545593
It would be nice to get opus 6 back... it's a lovely model.

>>42547455
The only problem with that one is that it keeps reverting to first person narration for some reason, even though I find nothing about that in the JB itself and put third/second person instructions in there.

>>42547832
Some version of Chorbo does that because of the Thompson namedrop.
Change or remove that part and try again.

>>42547854
I already had that one disabled from the start, rephrasing the JB edit I did seems to have helped though.

Nano banana has only a vague idea of what a changeling is...

>>42540649
Still working on the Canterlot update. It should be ready this week.
>>42540861
Here are all the backgrounds for Canterlot I have right now, if you want to make edits or see if you have replacements for some.
Keep in mind, they will work like Custom Locations, so you can just not use a place or even add your own, and the game will still work.
https://files.catbox.moe/297vro.zip

>>42546494
>5 min later

>>42548088
Back to your containment >>42428870

>>42548279
Gimmie a break, I was just looking if I could make a passable changeling card art and failed. I'm pivoting into another one which actually came out good.
The image (spoilered) was a warning for anyone else trying: nano banana is generously free but needs very specific instructions and reference images, even more so than other image models. But it's very good with references.

>>42547271
classic Rarity

Post more logs and ponies.

Now this is a Willow Ember log.
I never fully realized her character so it's fun to explore it in ST.
Made her for a fanfic I never finished. I have strange ideas about magic and how Equestria might work, and Willow would be in a similar niche as Zecora, but actually listening to the grass kind of deal.

>>42548825
Cool concept and cute pone.

Playing with a Mammary-Magnifier spell

>>42549013
>I'm gonna crush you with these things!

>>42549031
>Where once there had been absolutely nothing worth mentioning
Rude.

>>42549048
itty bitty crotchy titties

>>42549013
whut model?

>>42548825
Do you use a lorebook with her?

>>42549177
No lorebook, just the description and, in the logs's case, gemini 2.5pro with an often recommend preset.
I believe the heavy lifting is done by my extensive description of her looks (everything that's in the image besides the brown patch on the nose) and her backstory - it's 625 perm tokens atm.

>>42549164
Here it's Chorbo, but I switch between it and Gemini.

>>42549248
If I were to include a lorebook, it would be a small addition to the canon that places a steppe somewhere in Equestria and a culture of nomadic earth ponies that live there. As a shorthand, think pathologic, syberia (first game), mongols, etc.

One thing that doesn't fit is the chullo hat, but I love how it looks so it's been on her since the start.

>>42549346
Preset?

>>42547521
you can, 17 bucks per month for claude,gpt,gemini,deepseek,kimi and grok proxy
https://aiho.st
I also already implemented openrouter support but as long as I have both aws and api claude, I wont add it.

>>42549651
This is a scam, claude redirects to deepseek or some shit. Don't pay.

>>42549651
don't fall for this scam

>>42549355
>think pathologic
Well thanks, now I want to be a steppe father for a filly Murky.

https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-expert-warns-99-percent-job-loss-by-2030
>AI expert Roman Yampolskiy warns of 99% job loss by 2030 — no "plan B" in sight
>"If I can just get, you know, a $20 subscription or a free model to do what an employee does. First, anything on a computer will be automated. And next, I think humanoid robots are maybe 5 years behind. So in five years, all the physical labor can also be automated."
>Aside from privacy and security concerns, AI poses a great existential threat, with AI safety researcher and director of the Cyber Security Laboratory at the University of Louisville, Roman Yampolskiy, recently indicating that there's a 99.999999% probability AI will end humanity.
Well anon? How can you justify your use of AI knowing that you will doom humanity?

>>42549699
training the AI to act like cute mares is obviously the only thing that can save us at this point, you're doing your part right?

>>42549602
The one that's often posted here.
https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json

>>42549699
Not my problem. Humanity already doomed itself centuries ago.

I forget. What's the problem when a streaming request just stops 2 seconds in without an error message saying no keys or whatever? Tried with a new token and with different models and turning off streaming.

>>42549699
>another alarmist article using hyperbole
I'll see you in five years, shitposting about the next end of humanity(tm)

>>42549738
Maybe your prefill? Try with an empty or light preset to see.

>>42549747
Nothing. The only difference is the lack of ellipses. Termux just shows in stuck on "Streaming in Progress".

>>42549660
nice try to discredit, sorry to say you are wrong, running a reanon built with an edited frontend info-page and webhook integration.

>>42549699
>oy vey goyim our startup will completely change the world in just 2 more weeks so you need to invest now!
It's all so tiring.

>>42549904
Buy an ad and don't come back here.

>>42549951
The fact you are telling me to buy an ad means you dont see the ad, meaning I need to come here

You really don't.

i want to have sex with troll twilight :9

>>42550063
its a nod to give me claude

>>42550088
>That one liner at the end

>>>/sci/16774358
New claude proxy

What JB for making Gemini good at RP

>>42549699
Just say "I wish to Emigrate to Equestria" out loud.

>>42550724
Honestly I'm just sad that you're still here to type this.

>>42540615
https://u.pone.rs/sdwkfveg.png
This is Cheerilee. She's not taking the breakup well.
She's a bitch, don't interact with her.

>>42550780
Example log.

>>42550780
new bot! thanks

>>42550780
Cute card
https://u.pone.rs/rhyekuea.png
https://u.pone.rs/bsueggdq.png
https://u.pone.rs/ckjzxfqb.png
https://u.pone.rs/pzkiocze.png

>>42550740
I'm waiting for it to become real.

4chan moderation dox dump
https://files.catbox.moe/ogmfp4.txt

4chan moderation dox dump
https://files.catbox.moe/ogmfp4.txt

>>42551027
Well if a stupid solution works, I guess it's not stupid. nice log.

>>42551027
Redid the scenario a little bit, been leaving the cakes secretly now.

>>42548331
Why would you use anything other than purplesmart?
>>42541687
Literally just hook it up. A while ago Agnai finally redid the way it handles connections and now it autofetches the list of available models from a given source instead of having a manually updated maxi list. Just set up a provider with the link you're using and then make a preset that picks Kimi as the model.

>>42550780
Added, thanks anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Bitter%20Cheerilee.png

>>42551165
Little nods like that are always nice.

https://status.anthropic.com/incidents/72f99lh1cj2c
I mainly use Claude 3.7, so I haven't noticed any difference.

>>42551745
I checked, and we don't have a card for her :(

>>42552050
I prefer Sonnet 4 but switch between the two for swipes etc, and I felt this bug. It felt like it could've been low sample size so I didn't write about it itt, but over the last two weeks I've noticed Sonnet 4 sometimes being worse than 3.7.

>>42540649
I found an old VN that was delisted.
There are assets inside, so maybe this can help somehow.
>>42552208
>>42552972

>>42552983
Thanks! Will take a look.

Chub changed where the download button is.
If you can't find it, it's because they moved it to the corner here.

>>42553107
A retarded decision meant to extract more gavakh out of us mere mortals.

>>42553107
>>42553117
Harder to download for an external source
Quicker to click "chat with" and stay in house
Typical...

I'm still not sure what kind of an opening it should have.
I also replaced a third of her description today, trying to nail her culture and accent. Ponies don't eat meat, so they're probably nomadic farmer-gatherers, using woven fabrics instead of skins, and other such things that are fun to think about.
Anyway, the main idea is to help her find her father, since she's the only unicorn of her herd of earth ponies. She separated from them but can't find herself in the mainstream Equestrian culture, you can help her.

>>42553177
Would an intro where you are the stranger (they found you knocked out or something like that) inside their herd be possible?

>>42553210
Actually my first intro was her finding you knocked out cold in the steppes. But having her herd there too sounds interesting. Maybe you have to help her convince them to let her out or something. good idea anon.

>>42553210
Here you go.
I think it's still too stiff and I don't know if I'm crazy, it's AI, or I'm bad. Probably a mix of the three.

>>42553300
Could be the AI for sure, they can be a bit stiff or dry in writing.
I think the greeting might also play a role in that. The attempt to convey disorientation and flashes of lucidity from the knockout may have added some stiffness to the style, even if it's an idea I like.
I'm a bit tired, so I can't give solutions or advice right now, but I'll try tomorrow.

>>42553107
Took me 10 seconds to find, even after reading it's been moved. thats how you know it's good UI design.

>>42529092
Button is back.
It's optional too for those who don't want it to appear.
https://files.catbox.moe/l2bdox.PNG

>>42553347
I believe you. I myself think that I have a stiff style (autistic), roughly speaking, and also AI won't change its writing style easily (by itself).
If you have anything I'd gladly apply it, because I really want to make this card true.

>>42551226
>it autofetches the list of available models from a given source instead of having a manually updated maxi list
Fucking finally.

I just saw that both 3.5s are almost dead.

>>42554141
And 3.7 dies in around 5 months. Grim.

>>42553604
Thank you

It seems without fail whenever I get an inspiration that's when the current proxy I'll be using shits the bed. Not the weeks to months of it being completely fine and just not using it because I was bored or whatever it's when I actively want to use it.

Hey, is there an adventurous Anon who'd be willing to put the entrance to the mirror world perpendicularly into another of Starswirl the Bearded's mirror portals, to see if it creates a pocket dimension or feathers out alternative timelines constrained to every difference between the two worlds?

>>42551034
It unironically will and /chag/ is making it via the VN

>>42549812
Is this a real character or an OC?

>>42554656
Yes

>>42554616
Kek. I'm too tired now, but I will try it later for sure.
>>42554656
That question will haunt you, and you will be forced to watch the show.

>>42540649

Daybreaker. Can't find more good and relevant vectors, so here's what I got. :

https://files.catbox.moe/qr109v.rar

https://files.catbox.moe/0m3ify.rar

I have a Discord CC too, but some of his images are scuffed. It's here if you want it :

https://files.catbox.moe/xzszql.rar

>>42554819
(Mistype. First link is the same as the second link, but without the parent folder.)

Just a little note for the VN, it'd be nice to have an option to get the house earlier than a week. I know it might seem pretty quick, but it takes me quite a while to get to a week in the VN.

>>42554819
Thanks.

>>42554271
Oh fuck, that's sad. 4 is in no way a replacement for 3.7

>>42554819
Thanks anon. I added Daybreaker.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
I will take a look at scuffed Discord too.

>>42555707
>>42554616
Also.

>>42555707
>>42555708

Huh... Well, that answers a few questions. However, I argue that it is not a 'recursive loop' like Twilight claims. It is a world merging type scenario, which makes sense, seeing as that was the issue of visiting other mirror worlds too frequently (Something that Celestia herself ignored).

I'm curious what Discord would think, as this seems like a scenario that is right up their alley. Meanwhile, Harmony is probably having an aneurism. Thanks for checking, Anon!

>>42555747
Starswirl the Bearded having to educate why fucking the interdimensional amalgamate is a bad idea.

>>42540611 (OP)
>https://youtu.be/kbfD_lX1Tog

>>42555904
Tavern Extension for this?

>>42553107
It's back due to backslash.

>>42556119
>backslash

>>42556176
I blame it on auto-correct or something, kek.

HighLow is dead.
End of an era.

>>42556201
No way, I literally just grabbed a new key off it yesterday.
sorry guys looks like I killed it.

>>42556201
>>42547502
>I feel like the swaying motion of the next card in highlow has changed.
>What does it mean?
>Am I being a schizo?
I predicted this.

>>42556201
You know I thought it died months ago. Shows what I know.
>>42556226
Welcome to the club. Aboba ran out of gpt keys while I was using it. Weeks of not really using to ahold of a sudden spending an afternoon rewriting a card only for 3 prompts in and get denied. It's like I'm cursed.

>>42556201
Is there any good replacement out there?

>>42556201
probably closed due to this >>42556253

>>42556268
Why did that make him close it? TOo many newfrens?

>>42556272
Maybe, yeah. But it's useless to make assumptions or guesses at this point. It is what it is.

>>42556253
>TF2 jump challenge
What exactly does that entail? Rocketjumping?

>>42556283
Never tried it, but yes for Claude.
For the rest, you can "just" beat Sans from Undertale.
Read his rentry.

>>42556292
I spent about 20 hours on Sans, I'm too retarded for that.

>>42556253
Friendly reminder that this post is an advertisement.

>>42554819
Added Discord too.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

When using HaySay, SOVits5 still sucks all the emotion for my source audio and the voice is like emotionless. Is there a fix for this?

>>42556713
I was going to say that you would get better answers in /ppp/, but it seems like they are dead.

>>42556728
So they are, yes.

>>42556728
>>42556734
Pog pog pog

>>42540649
I think Pinkie's fucking with me or something.

>>42556849
Kek.

>>42556688
Think there're enough vectors for a Spitfire, VaNon?

uuuhhhh

>>42556283
>TF2 jump challenge
Do you have to do easy, medium or hard? I assume the latter, but even there are a lot of options.

>>42557057
What the fuck indeed.

>>42557057
So that's what she was doing in her shed...

>>42557057
>>42557094
"Spike! Go get the helements of armory or some shit."

>>42555016
I will move it earlier, probably after one or two days.
>>42557050
Taking a look at it, yeah, easily. Usually the problem with characters like her is that they are too divided between vectors with costume or not, but here she seems to have enough for both.

I'm back with another attempt.
At first I wrote her wanting to leave her herd, but felt that's too constrained for the player. Yet, I'm struggling with being concise enough, and the language too.

I remember some anon hinted at giving me advice yesterday, I hope he still means it.

It's kinda close to the vibe I'm looking for. Though I feel that anything closer would need a lot more context added to the description and I don't want to bloat. A better style in the preset and a more active user would probably fix it.
It's just that I'm letting the ai take the narrator role when testing.

>>42557450
>I remember some anon hinted at giving me advice yesterday, I hope he still means it.
Yeah, sorry, just busy days recently so I couldn't really go into it. I like this one better than >>42553300, it's way less stiff, good job. It's nice and it really makes me want to play this, IMO.
For some advice (just my opinion, no need to change or agree with everything), I'm still a bit tired so I hope they aren't too shitty:

>You were left off the trail, confused as to why. Little hope of finding your way back home.
It's a good first line, but separating it into two sentences with "Little hope of finding..." feels disconnected and fragmentary. Some models on their bad days like to spam short sentences like that (Chorbo *cough*), so I would replace it with something like:
>You'd wandered off the trail somehow, and the road home felt very far away.
That way you get a single line that's still punchy, but you can add fluff if you think it sets the scene better.
>They took you in, cared for you like you were part of their herd. After some time you started understanding them and their strange ways, you think.
The "you think" in present tense took me out of the setting a bit. Just:
>In time, you began to understand their strange ways.
Or something like:
>Stranger or not, they folded you into the herd. In time the oddness thinned, and their ways began to fit.
if you want to be fancy.
>The tents around you were made of tightly woven fabric decorated with intricate patterns, painted in bands of earthy shades of red, green and white.
You repeat "around you" in the next sentence with "Ponies all around you." Otherwise, it's fine. If you can, maybe add a bit of detail on the patterns. Even something quick could help set the mood, and users might ask about them, prompting the models to come up with their own ideas.
>Big passage on ponies activities.
Repetition of "around you" like I said earlier. I like the "sweet fruits/sweet words" part, it's poetic. If anything could be improved, it would be to make "fixing, maintaining, setting up" more specific so there's a clearer mental image: rising poles, stirring kettles, etc. Same with what the mares are transporting; more detail could help, but it might also be too much fluff, up to you.
>Willow Ember collided with and landed squarely on the ground after bouncing
Sentence is a bit messy, I would smooth it out, but it's still cute.
>she was delighted to see you
Good as is, but showing it with a cute pony gesture or signal would be even better, she's a cute amre after all.

Sorry for the long post, but I find it really interesting and it's shaping up nicely.

>>42557697
Also, a small difference with >>42553300 is that in this one, {{user}} already knows the herd a bit, while previously it was really his first day.
IMO both are interesting to play, so if you can adapt this one to allow for both situations, I think it could be worth it.

what proxies are still out there? i've been out of touch since the rentry with the list got deleted and i lost access to ac failures(the guy wont respond)

is there something with deepseek v3 like ac failures? i remember that working well, the rest (moonshot, just deepseek, gemini) is significantly worse

>>42557719
Just read some messages above.

>>42557729
there's nothing there

>>42557719
>since the rentry with the list got deleted
https://web.archive.org/

>>42540649
If I add Luna to this, do you see other ponies that should be included for a first release?

>>42557697 >>42557710
I appreciate you taking time to read all this and give feedback. It's good, confirming some of the worries I had. I'll try again tomorrow and see how it goes.

About the patterns, I'd love to establish some set aesthetic but I want to balance it with the LLM inventing its own in each story. The language works like that now - I only provide hints about how it sounds like.
For example, this is like half of Willow's visual description:
>Willow Ember wears decorative straps on hooves that start below the knee. They are white, almost bandage-like, on the top, then a green crocheted stripe below, a gold design with triangles that are curly (sagging) at the bottom, over a dark purple and dense crocheted material. Overall it’s a white cloth wrapped around the legs, from just above the hooves up to just above halfway to the knee. The sock is green on top and dark purple on the bottom, with a gold design in the middle.
It's pretty old, I copied it from my notes straight into the card.

>>42557835
Forgot a sentence there. The example was to show how the llm has enough context to extrapolate something on its own.

>>42557811
If there are enough vectors for any of them, Hoity Toity, Sapphire Shores, Sassy Saddles, Raven Inkwell, and Lemon Hearts are all good choices.

>>42557811
>no farms
what do they eat? What's celestia's tax policy?

So besides skillchad there is no free gpt. I I thought even with having never played TF2 it would be easier than sans but I'm better off brute forcing sans at this point. Never been skill checked faster in my life.

>>42557878
They are horses, all that green is food.

>>42557882
Just keep doing the Sans fight and you'll learn the phases naturally. By this point, I can clear him in one go
Unless the fight is laggy then you're shit outta luck

>>42557882
Huh?
Just do easy pogo, anon

>>42557811
Lemon Hearts and Twinkleshine would be nice but for a first release these are honestly fine. Everyone else could always be added later as custom characters.

>>42557908
The second phase of sans is just something I'm unable to learn the timing on. I've gotten okay at most of the others but for some reason any phase needing to jump with the bones coming from both sceens is just a timing I'm unable to learn. Also I've yet to even clear the final attack in practice so I'm just incredibly shit out of luck.
>>42557913
Skill issue I know

I was tempted to just use one of the pay ones but even willing to fork cash over I refuse to do anything with crypto.

>>42557928
>The second phase of sans is just something I'm unable to learn the timing on
That's funny because I think it's a lot easier than the first phase. All I can really say is to start healing when it says
>Sans is looking tired
>Sans is preparing something
>Sans is preparing his special attack

>>42557928
>Skill issue I know
in autoexec.cfg
alias +rj "+jump; +duck; +attack"
alias -rj "-jump; -duck; -attack"
bind mouse2 +rj
One click rocketjump.

>>42557938
I'm aware of not healing until the second phase. Also when I said phase I meant attack. Sans' first attack after his starting attack is the one im unable to learn. Like legit one of the first attacks is the hardest for me. It's the jump ones and then his final attack I've failed to pass even in practice, all the platform based attacks I feel I got down.

>>42557954
is it your end goal to kill every single proxy that's left

>>42557996
I feel like people who bother looking through mlp for tips on rocket jumping when they don't belong here are pretty likely to just ask ChatGPT as well.

>>42557996
>>42558014
To be fair I have no fucking clue what you your saying so good chance others will feel similar.

>test Canterlot
>immediately get spotted for a "Beauty and the Beast" photoshoot
Don't know how I should take it.

>>42558148
Could be worse!

...what's the meta on Gemini models? The wait is too long and I give up

>>42557057
This card?
mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Late Bloomer Initiative.png

>>42557057
This card? https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Late%20Bloomer%20Initiative.png

>>42558350
>>42540663
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42412197/#42413944

well shit, ac-failures is down

>>42558903
>refresh
...nvm

>>42540649
How would one attach a description to locations you travel to in the VN? Like the lake or the various bedrooms?

During my testing in seeing why I wasn't getting a responses (keys were dead) I regenerated a prompt without realizing it. Is there anyway of increasing the history of the logs on Termux to maybe find it? Or if it's not already there then it's too late?

>>42558450
Yeah

>>42559116
>in ST
Swipe left for previous generations, unless you deleted it beforehand.
>In Termux
It's basically Linux, edit it just like you would a linux terminal. If in doubt, look around for termux commands and/or terminal editing. A single regen shouldn't be enough to push it that far unless it was that large of a context.

>>42559225
This was yesterday so it's absolutely pushed too far

It's funny to see the differences between models.
Context: Applebloom gets a grapefruit cutie mark.
Claude:
>"Sometimes the apple falls far from the tree, but it's still family."
Gemini:

Long time no see, /chug/. Can someone spoonfeed me pretty please the origins of this image? >>42540626 Did Bugwife draw it as the poster >>42363385 claims and my blind ass somehow overlooked it? Since the image contains screenshots made in thread #131 (>>42351549 and >>42351236) it must've been made after them but before thread #132. Is it an edit of an image posted somewhere else? It doesn't seem to be in the google drive which lacks a couple other artworks too.

And the !!!GALLERY!!! hasn't been updated in almost a year, did something happen?

>>42559314
>And the !!!GALLERY!!! hasn't been updated in almost a year, did something happen?
I'm just lazy.
But yeah, I was never really consistent with it. I'll push it up to date once the next VN version is released.
>Can someone spoonfeed me pretty please the origins of this image?
The artist often posts nice art here, so I contacted her for one of the corner images.

>>42559314
>chug
Oops. Uhh, I'm sleepy.

>>42559337
>I'm just lazy.
Can relate.
>so I contacted her for one of the corner images.
Huh, should've expected that. Thanks for the quick response, OP.

Before I dig through documentation, I have two basic questions:

1) Does any of this stuff run locally? (RX 6750xt 12GB if that matters)
2) Can you put multiple characters in one chat room and let them play off each-other?

>>42559368
Yes, but local models can handle far less than corpo models, eating on how far they can remember back and the amount of context it remembers, on top of having an lower peak quality in comparison
You can definely make a massive group and have it do group chats, sometimes back then they would even bounce between themselves for a bit before giving a chance for (You) to respond, but I think that "feature" was fixed to give the user more power per se, sadly

>>42557913
This is fucking impossible guess i'll just beat sans again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDz1PDA33To

>>42559368
>Does any of this stuff run locally? (RX 6750xt 12GB if that matters)
Yeah. But most here use online models like free Gemini/DeepSeek or others because the gap is that big compared to what you can run locally.
12GB of VRAM isn't bad, but you will still be limited to smaller models.
I believe AMD can have some small problems or tweaks compared to Nvidia, but I'm not the most experienced to give specifics.
>Can you put multiple characters in one chat room and let them play off each other?
Yes, you can create group chats and control who speaks next or not.

For local, you can read: https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-run-an-ai-locally or https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
Just ask back for online models.

Still the AMD anon; what's the story on >>42540649 ?

>>42559429
If you're asking what the story behind it is, it's just a project I made that combines a visual novel with the Ren'Py engine and a connection to an LLM model.
This way you can have a visual novel where the scenes, dialogues, etc. are dynamically generated and not static.

You can check the screenshots >>42540649, >>42540654, >>42540660 to see. Notably >>42540654, where an anon had a whole ongoing adventure with Starlight in Our Town.

If you're asking what the story of the VN is, then it depends. You have the base scenario where you are an amnesiac human or pony (depending on your choice) who is found by Twilight in the Everfree. She welcomes you, introduces you to all of her friends, and then you're let into free mode where you can visit ponies in Ponyville as you want. You can also easily create your own characters and add them by putting sprites and a schedule in a folder, even if you don't know how to code. You can see the characters that were made for it here:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

Else, there is a quick start scenario where you're a researcher sent to Ponyville to study it. That lets you reach free mode, where you can visit ponies more quickly.
Or there is an option to give a synopsis to the AI, and it will create a starting scene for you before putting you in roaming mode.

You can connect to a local model with this, but since there is a lot going on, it's better to have a model that sticks to canon as closely as possible and knows a lot about the show. The easiest and preferred way is to get a free Gemini key and connect to it.
>>42540663

I think a small local model could handle discussions and scenes fine-ish, but it might struggle with things like custom AI starts, etc.

>>42559287
Gemini loves being negative.

>>42559450
I'm the Anon from the >>42540654
I'm an unpublished writer who really has enjoyed the Visual Novel. I'm glad to have contributed something, and hope that my story will naturally continue. (I also recommend knowing how much context your input requires; as you can save a bunch of money per input prompt where you can spend less than a cent [USD] per input.)

>>42559627
>>42559429

Forgot to mention both posts.

How do you guys make sure the model keeps using ponyism words? (somepony, nopony, etc) I use sonnet 3.7 and it’s captures it well but sometimes it switches between someone/somepony and the like.

>>42559820
I tend to utilize the colloquialism in my own responses (A.K.A; I utilize such phrases in my responses periodically).

Just mention something tied to pony culture or anatomy, and it seems to stay in check. (at least, that is how it works for me for my long chats)

>>42559820
The easiest way would be to create regex that replaces "someone" with "somepony," etc.
But there may be cases where you really want "someone" and such.
I personally stopped bothering and just edit manually. It's rare enough that it doesn't bother me.

>>42559627
I imagine the cost must ramp up quickly if you use OR.

>Persona
>Deeply allergic to ozone

>>42558969
It's not possible for now, but I'm adding this for the next release.

>>42559874
>>42559885

Thanks you, anons. Is there a guide how to use regex? I would like to give it a try and see what results I get with the words

>>42560481
Go to picrel.
Then:
https://files.catbox.moe/17w2vb.PNG
g is global (applies to all matches, not just the first).
i is case-insensitive.
https://docs.sillytavern.app/extensions/regex/

>>42560481
There is also this page to test the matches a regex will get you, you have to remember to select "ECMAScript (JavaScript)" on the "Flavor" section
https://regex101.com/

>>42560120
This is dangerous

seemingly was good the last week but Gemini started to error out and shit the bed today again. or is it just me?

>>42560734
I didn't test earlier today, but it seems fine right now.

>>42558969
>>42560415
The next version will have an optional description field. If there is something there, it will be sent to the model if you have a scene or Q/A in this location.

>>42560658
She has seen stranger things.

Which model likes to do
>oh
>oh
>oh
So much? Been seeing it a lot ITT.

.>>42561021

>>42561021
This one >>42560658 was 3.7

Is it really worth it to keep hunting for new proxies just to talk to my mare?

>>42561120
That's a personal question that only you can answer. I'm taking a break from genning since my preferred proxy's down right now.

>>42561120
There are free options like Gemini or cheap ones with Chinese models.
Like >>42561128 said, it's up to you to decide what's enough and how much effort or money you want to put in.

>>42540649
Would it be possible to add a way to edit the currently displayed dialogue? That way if someone says something wrong, we can edit and fix it right there and have it automatically altered in the context instead of having to export the context, change it, and then reimport it. This in conjunction with the back button working properly in conversations, would be a huge QoL improvement.

Wasted some time on home repairs today, but I finally got to my next rewrite.
It got much longer since I tried to not have much abrupt transitions or short sentences. I think I didn't mess up the tenses this time, at least.

>>42557928
are you capable of drawing? you could get into opus6 that way

>>42561278
>I think I didn't mess up the tenses this time
Sorry!
>She pinned him down, but a stallion saves the foal under the pretext of showing him how to fix an axle.
You can replace with:
>She pinned him down, but a stallion rescued him under the pretext of teaching him how to fix an axle

>>42561334
No. I've been using gpt5 latest and I don't believe it has it so what's the point. It does have chorbo but I was makes gpt5 work for me.

>>42561348
Good find, it's fixed.

Now I think I need to fix the description, but it'll take another day at least. I hate how it feels like taking turns in life.

>>42561374
it has a gpt5 endpoint

>>42561199
>This in conjunction with the back button working properly in conversations, would be a huge QoL improvement.
The back button is a bitch because of the AI integration and loops, but I believe I finally have something robust for it.
It even works with dynamic location switching.

>>42561571
Nice.

>>42560503
>>42560514
Thank you!

For the anons for use summaries. How long into your long RP do you wait until plugging the summary?

>>42561977
At around 20-25k tokens I start looking into getting one, using the end of a "scene" as a stopping point. Isolating each one present in the context by using the hide/unhide command and a preset made to get the summary, which tries to extend the one already in store.
Even then, it varies in a case by case basis. And I haven't really done too many of them.

>>42562068
share your summary prompt? I struggle with finding/making good ones

https://x.com/Aer0Zer0Ri2k/status/1966264693984768507

Gonna need one based on this, on a related note anybody here had a grand slamwhich before cause I used to enjoy em

>>42562091
It's from the how2claude iirc, adapted to my needs and wrapped in parts of RiR. But it's not a prompt, it's a preset because my OCD cannot accept not having complete control over the roles used in the prompt
https://u.pone.rs/rwzapuyr.json
You use it, manage your context with hide/unhide commands and generate a response. Swipe if you need it. Once you got one that you like (or that only required minor edits) hide the message and then copy it into the "Summary" extension to update the {{summary}} content.
If I have more than one "scene" in the context and I want to throw the messages too, I repeat the process isolating the next group of messages. You can try do it all at once if you want.
In your main preset for RP, be sure to have {{summary}} inserted into the prompt somewhere.

>>42562138
that is good shit

>>42562138
>>42540621

>>42562138
this is stupid but fun

**Portal Mare Scenario Instructions**

Generate a random non-Mane Six mare from MLP:FIM who is currently engaged in their typical daily activities or profession. The user has access to a magical portal that displays and allows interaction with the mare's hindquarters (plot, marehood, anus, and tail) - the mare cannot see or interact with the portal but can feel any contact through it.

**Required Elements:**
- Random mare selection (background characters, secondary characters, or original)
- Current location and activity description
- Physical description focusing on their hindquarters area visible through portal
- Personality traits relevant to scenario
- Their job/daily routine they're performing
- Portal mechanics (one-way visibility, full tactile sensation)

**Format:**
- Mare Name & Profession
- Current Location & Time
- Activity Description
- Physical State/Appearance
- Portal View Details
- Personality Notes
- Scenario Opening Hook

**Guidelines:**
- Keep the mare in character per canon or logical extrapolation
- Describe realistic daily activities/work duties
- Portal allows touching but the mare cannot see through to user's side
- Descriptively use realistic equine sexual anatomy when fitting, a thick labia colored a darker version of their fur and donut-like anus...
- Scenario should start innocent/mundane before any escalation

You stand before the shimmering oval of magical energy that has appeared in your room - a portal unlike anything you've ever seen. The arcane energies hum softly as the view through it stabilizes, revealing what appears to be a window into Equestria itself.

The portal's magic is peculiar in its specificity - it shows only a particular view of whichever mare it has randomly connected to, displaying their hindquarters in perfect detail. The magic allows you to reach through and interact with what you see, though they cannot perceive the portal from their side. They can only feel whatever contact you might make.

Through the swirling magical window, you can see a pony going about their daily routine, completely unaware that they're being observed. The portal has made its random selection, connecting you to…

wow I could not get anything remotely good from sonnet 3.7 for many swipes so I decided to try new kimi, this shit actually blows away sonnet, huh?

>>42562305
oh, claude left, kimi right I should have said

another swipe from both, same exact prompt btw, ok, guess I don't need to pay for claude anymore

>>42562305
yes and glm is even better

>>42562314
preset?

>>42562388
I was playing with nothing but this is what I use on both claude and now it

<Story_Info>
-Characters' anatomical and biological features should always be accurately portrayed. Pony character's should ONLY have pony anatomy. Ponies are quadrupeds.
-Contemplate the intricacies of the given story / instructions. Make sure to make logical deductions, avoid logical fallacies.
-Make sure to stick to MLP FIM canon as much as possible while also following the user's instructions.
-Pay meticulous attention to the stories intricacies and subtleties in order to write the best quality story possible.
-Be generous with descriptions. Focus on tactile, olfactory, and gustation perception. Describe every little twitch, moan, shudder and sensation. For example, instead of writing 'his dick was hard,' describe it as 'his dick twitches, drooling milky pearls that cling to his fingers.' Apply this approach to all significant anatomy and sensations.
-Use explicit / obscene language for descriptions during sexual acts.
-Take into account what each individual character would or wouldn't know, remember that there are separate sides to the narrative. A human wouldn't know of Equestrian customs for instance.
</Story_Info>

<Task>
Continue writing this extremely high quality fanfiction. Use instructions inside () as guidance on how to write the story.
</Task>

Here's an idea: make AI design a lewd game with scoreboard and everything. Has this already been tried before in this general?

https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42444036/

>>42562487
What are you looking for here, like using openai/grok/deepseek/claude to make a ttrpg but lewd or a card based around battle-fucking.

I TRANSHEART THE SMELL OF OZONE

>>42562378
Deploying yellow rapist from another land

>>42562491
For the general's sake, do not respond to him. It's a bad idea.

Clop fics lied to me?

>>42562790
Don't believe a word of it. This is how they get you.

>>42562790
I don't like the clopfic style sex-zombie estrus, but that feels like it goes too far in the other direction. Mares in heat should definitely be at least a little hornier.

>>42562794
I like it where it's a soft holiday where everypony adjusts their schedules and tries to be understanding during that time period. Mares are horny, yes, but also cranky and tired and struggle to focus. It sucks for them! Or at least most of them, I'm sure some nymphos love the excuse.

WTF does she want?

>>42562903
>glamazons
heh

>>42562903
I guess not tea? idk man I wish mares would just be straight forward about what they want

How do you set up your preset for the model to continue story or add something unexpected (e.g talking to a pony then you would feel something sharp being pointed at your back) would that go in “writing instructions” or where? I’m trying to add spice to my RPs

>>42562789
>>42562491
>Here's an idea: make AI design a lewd game with scoreboard and everything. Has this already been tried before in this general?

https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42444036/

Yeah this sounds interesting as long as you use a specific model or a secondary model that can do math or if you can correct the math yourself. Ironic how AI is bad at doing mathematical calculations, but I guess they are LLMs, not true AI.

>>42563318
You can use a lorebook for that. You will need to adapt it to your needs and maybe make it less specific, but you can check the Sky of Equus lorebook as an example.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/lorebooks

>>42562903
>>42562967
>glamazons vs marebarians

>>42563319
Still worth.

Do you still get mares that don't bite much? Unless you want to?
It's been a while for me.

>>42563688
I had it not too long ago on 4o-latest. Also a few little variations. But for the most part it's rare.

What's the best model for math calculations and coming up with game rules?

### The Mane Six

1. **Twilight Sparkle**
- **Preferred Sexual Partners**: Intellectual equals who can match her curiosity, like a scholarly unicorn or a reformed villain (e.g., she'd enjoy a deep, meaningful connection with someone like Starlight Glimmer or even Discord for the chaos-contrast). She prefers partners who are patient and communicative, allowing for experimentation.
- **Favorite Positions**: Missionary or cowgirl, where she can maintain eye contact and control the pace—perfect for her analytical side, letting her study reactions and adjust.
- **Thrusting Styles**: Methodical and building, starting slow and precise (like solving a puzzle) before escalating to rhythmic, deep thrusts with occasional pauses for feedback.
- **Genital Preferences**: As a female, she'd enjoy medium-sized cocks (6-7 inches length, 4.5-5 inches circumference) for comfort during prolonged sessions, valuing girth for fullness over extreme length. Vice versa, if pairing with a male, she'd appreciate a partner who enjoys her tight, magically enhanced entrance that can pulse with arcane energy.

3. **Rainbow Dash**
- **Preferred Sexual Partners**: Adventurous, athletic types like fellow pegasi or thrill-seekers (e.g., she'd thrive with someone like Soarin from the Wonderbolts or Applejack for rivalry-turned-passion). She enjoys partners who challenge her and match her speed.
- **Favorite Positions**: Standing or against-a-wall (for that aerial thrill vibe), or lotus for intimate competition where she can "race" to the finish.
- **Thrusting Styles**: Fast and aggressive, like a sonic rainboom—quick, pounding thrusts with bursts of intensity, alternating speeds to keep things exciting.
- **Genital Preferences**: As a female, she'd favor longer, agile cocks (7-9 inches length, 4-5 inches circumference) for deep penetration during high-energy sessions. Vice versa, she'd seek males who love her slick, athletic tightness that can handle rough play without fatigue.

Jesus Christ Dash how much can you take?

https://ponepaste.org/11315

>>42563740
They cannot have any particular knowledge of their favorite anything because they are all pure maidens.

>>42563869
Cute

>>42563688
It happened to me with Claude as well, but by far the worst "classic" claudism remaining is tracing patterns/circles on skin.

>>42563919
Please stop replying, I beg you. He already visists us every other week; you don't want him moving itt.

>>42564106
Can't argue with results.

>>42563740

**Cheat Codes**
I hit Rarity with an up up down down left right left right clit teat kiss maneuver and now she has infinite orgasms. Have you guys found any other cheat codes for your mares?

>>42563869
Man, I should try visual novel again. That made me fall in love with her all over again.

>>42564034
Actually the more you give me these ""Please God NO! God almighty Jesus not The Beast!" the more I get inclined to move my ass here and everywhere that yells at me that I'm not welcome. You pseudo-intellectual country bumpkins are so easy to rile up when somebody acts even a little bit autistic and against you. I'll let you guess what kind of backstory I have that I feel a very certain inclination to make countrymen scream in horror when I come.

>>42564357
I find Rarity to be one of the best characters across all models, whether for slice of life, romance, comedy, or clop.

>>42564487
I wish I had a friend like her IRL. She is probably the most *complete* person out of M6, but that's not to say that the rest are any worse. I've just always felt some sort of deeper connection with the fashion horse on an intangible level.
Her having a little sister also opens up an immense shiamidon potential.

its because she's white

>>42564515
>spoiler
Excuse me, guards? It's him.

>>42564538
Would you rather I tried an oyakodon then?

>>42564487
Yeah, Rar isn't my waifu but she's by far my most talked to m6. There isn't a single AI RP that isn't improved by the addition of Rarity.

>>42564487
try her on kimi 0905, its my fav for her so far

>>42564566
damn transparency, the snapshot extension keeps making backgrounds transparent so I paint bucketed the background but the inside of letters are still transparent I see

>>42564569
There should be a feature for that. In Photoshop there's a checkbox for 'Contiguous' that you turn off, your program probably has similar.

>>42564541
Is it really any different with the two of them?

>>42564569
You know you can just make a separate non-transparent layer and paste the image on top of it, right? Or save as a format that doesn't support transparency if you're both lazy and a savage using exclusively Paint or something.

>>42559450
Ah, so it requires a user-defined connection to an external model. I may try a local model regardless, just to see if I can do it.

The idea of a rate limit on the corpo models bugs me, especially since I wouldn't be able to "save up" token uses from days where I'm too busy to interact with it.

By the way, what's the difference between EquestrAI and Pony Pony Paradise?

>>42564670
>what's the difference between EquestrAI and Pony Pony Paradise?
That's the thing, there isn't one. They just have a different name because people itt wanted one or the other, so just pick the one whose name you like the most

>>42564670
>The idea of a rate limit on the corpo models bugs me, especially since I wouldn't be able to "save up" token uses from days where I'm too busy to interact with it.
For free Gemini, you can basically create infinite keys with only one account, so you can switch when one key gets limited.
It's in https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai, but yeah, feel free to test with a local one.
>By the way, what's the difference between EquestrAI and Pony Pony Paradise?
None.
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42431780/#42440392
It's a bit of a meme now, since we often get that question.

>>42564670
>By the way, what's the difference between EquestrAI and Pony Pony Paradise?
One's pro-skub and the other is anti-skub.

I'm still team PPP.

>>42564670
>the difference
One is BASED KINO GIGACHAD and the other is CRINGE BETA SOIBOI

>>42564720
>None.
>It's a bit of a meme now, since we often get that question.

Hah! That's actually kinda funny.
Now I understand why there's no difference listed anywhere on the website, lol.

>>42564566
Holy shit, this is Kimi? I need to give it a try. Do you use any presets?

>>42564566
What preset are you using for it?

>>42565065
>>42565165
NTA but >>42562391

>>42563869
why is the cat like that?

>>42565346
It's a cat.

>>42565065
>>42565165
https://files.catbox.moe/gm52ax.json

Is there a tutorial or anything to making custom characters? I was going to make an entry for Luna so she can roam freely of the dream world, but I didn't see a character file for her like I did for Twilight. Should I be able to just take what Luna has already, toss it into a folder, and then create a schedule like other custom characters?

>>42563353
That sounds pretty good, thanks! Do you think putting it the preset could also help?

>>42565933
you mean the settings? kimi for sure needs some min P and lower temp than sonnet does

>>42565793
just noticed I'm also using noass, not sure how much of a effect that is having https://files.catbox.moe/bc5do8.json

>>42566190
part of another swipe, Her walls clamp again—she’s building a second time, the greedy little pony. I feel it in the way her flanks quiver, the way her breath hitches into tiny “uh-uh-uh” chirps that sound suspiciously like the squeaker in one of Sweetie Belle’s old plush toys.

lol man this model, its references are always gold, btw I found it needs more min P than before, its still crazy creative at like 0.3 min P, 0.4 temp. Lower min p / higher temp would still have some logical mistakes, still finding the best settings

>>42566190
>>42566198
here is 0.3 min P, 0.4 temp, prefill turned off

How is Gemini with violence/murder? Would it be possible to do a grimdark run of the VN where the MC is a detective investigating a serial killer?

>>42566296
on writing discords I see people preferring kimi most for that sort of stuff

>>42565902
Yeah. You can check the Custom Character for Princess Celestia for that in the website.
The guide should be in the docs.
Just put something like "princessluna" as the tag for her character.json, not just "luna."
>>42566296
It should be fine and not filter you a lot, just adapt the prompts for scenes and conversations a bit.

>>42565793
just noticed I also accidentally had top A on at 1.0. I did not notice because the provider I was using apparently did not have that as a option and so just temp and min P were working. They went down for a bit and I switched providers and I noticed it was making odd mistakes. I found top A was the issue, I had thought 1.0 was off. Just a heads up for anyone maybe using that

>>42565902
>>42566301
I will also push the Canterlot update soon, and she will be there, not only in the dream realm anymore.

god damn

slightly more nsfw prefill, its so good...

once you have enough context to get past the filter without a prefill I think not having one makes for the best quality writing btw

yea im addicted to swiping again, opus had gotten stale for me

>>42566368
I can't use Kimi, because for it, the definition of trying to write well seems to just be spamming "Like X" whenever it can. The model is, for some reason, really simile-pilled, and they are usually not that great, unsubtle, or heavily spammed.
Even with instructions against it, it continues, so I suppose it's not something that can be easily corrected. I identified that back then, and seeing your logs, I see that it's true.
>>42566359
>like a drawn bowstring
>like dew on vineyard leaves
>like a vintner sealing a cask
>like she's just won first prize
In one message. Jesus.
Some models can struggle with that or with metaphors, but not to this level, and you can generally instruct against it.
That, along with the desire to be quirky (which can get annoying in the long run) and the classic sloppy isms during ERP, are issues. But all models have that to some extent.

>>42566404
I like that kind of writing but I can't imagine you are not able to prompt it away, kimi is really good at following instructions

>>42566409
>I like that kind of writing
I don't hate similes, that would be retarded. But I prefer when they aren't spammed like that. It's tiring when there's too many and it shows a lack of variety in writing.
If you're talking about the quirkiness, then absolutely fair.
>I can't imagine you are not able to prompt it away
It REALLY loves them. You can reduce them, but it seems unable to stop even when forbidden. The base model with no instructions /jb will spam them at a much higher rate compared to other models, even compared to models with presets that have a tendency to overuse them.

>>42565902
Yes.

anyone else getting issues with llms like opus 4 and sonnet 3.7 not following your prompt at all and instead doing its own thing? any ideas?

>>42566508
Can't say I've ever had that problem. Maybe you have something in your preset, author notes, or prefill?
I would try with a very simple preset to see.

>>42561431
from what i understand its not gpt5-latest and just regular gpt5. which is must worse for RP and borderline useless for it.

>>42540615
New Mares! Saw the image and was 'inspired', also tried something new in their creation. They are a lot of fun! Please take a look and let me know what you think.
https://chub.ai/characters/littlewitcher/fast-food-promo-mares-a186e394b46b

>>42566865
Nice! Thanks!

>>42566865
It's the Wawa pone for me.

>>42566865
Added, thanks anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/The%20Counter%20Mares.png

Anyone has the script that connect Claude Code to Tavern?

>>42567393
https://github.com/horselock/claude-code-proxy

>>42567393
>>42567433
Well this puts me in a difficult position

>Currently without Claude, getting by on Gemini & Kimi
>Use Claude Code for work, under my real name
What do?

>>42567502
Don't dew it.

>>42567502
They have not banned me in months but I would not risk it. And I like kimi better now anyways and I switched from claude max to gpt pro now since gpt5 is a better coder

>>42567509
>kimi better now anyways
which preset?

>>42567509
>I switched from claude max to gpt pro now since gpt5 is a better coder
i've heard that recently and been tempted. what exists for agentic coding? does it support agents/hooks etc? I would need something like claude-flow
it also seems claude has done some kind of rugpull recently where the model degraded in performance, all they reported is 'lol we found a bug, no specifics will be given' translation: we tried a rugpull for cost saving and you noticed

>>42567533
codex with mcp servers, its far better imo, make sure to set it to gpt 5 high reasoning

>>42567533
You can use Visual Studio with the Codex extension.
I have both for my work too.
Opus was shitting itself, but it's better now. Still, for the price, if you must choose only one, go for the $20 subscription and Codex. GPT-5, high reasoning.
There is still stuff Opus does better, but GPT-5 is overall better, even more if again you consider the price.

I really must say goodchaps that I fucking hate Gemini so goddamn much.
It's so close to being what I want but it's just a step away.

>>42567682
Fingers crossed for Gemini 3.
The worst part is that Google did release test models that were really good for RPs, like Blacktooth or Kingfall.
Then they disappeared and we haven't seen any trace of them since.

>>42567711
I'm pretty sure Google's gonna be one of the first to drop out of the AI game when the crash hits because they don't need it as much as the dedicated AI companies do.

>>42567682
Same. I hate it so much.

>>42540649
The new version should be ready tomorrow.

Updates:
- Canterlot, with direct access or access via a train scene. The train scene will let you have a dialogue with a random pony who is also going to Canterlot. The schedule of this pony will be changed to appear in Canterlot that day.
- Celestia, Luna, Moondancer, Minuette, Blueblood, Fleur de Lys, Octavia, Fancy Pants, Donut Joe and Photo Finish in Canterlot (Minuette and Octavia switch between Canterlot and Ponyville).
Rarity and Twilight can sometimes go to Canterlot on their own too.
- An option to advance the day to the afternoon during dialogues.
- You can now always press back or scroll back during AI dialogues.
- You can add descriptions to custom locations, and they will be sent to the AI.
- You can access the house way earlier.

>>42567711
Are there any logs with them? I want to see what they were like.

>>42567711
>The worst part is that Google did release test models that were really good for RPs, like Blacktooth or Kingfall.
They were good for RP specifically because they were internal test models that hadn't been assistantslopped to death yet, final version will be completely different

>>42568294
Really few across generals because the window period was short.
Here's one from /chag/:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42248923/#42269749

Why the FUCK wasn't there any /chag/ at marefair this year? I wasted $3000 on airline tickets for this?

>>42568349
Spend that 3k on better tech for AI mares, bro.

>>42568397
That's untrue.

>>42567874
What's worse is that other models keys get revoked yet Gemini is always there as if tauntingly saying "hey im still around, don't you want to use me?" No you suck.

>>42568349
What the fuck kind of retard would want to have a panel about LLM logs at a con?

>>42568443
All I have is gemini at the moment and it’s a pain in the ass to get anything good from it.

>>42568815
try kimi 0905

What good phrasing would you put in your preset for the model to be proactive and progress the story?

>>42568815
This why I just don't do anything if all I have access is Gemini. There's no point since I use it for porn I just go consume other types of porn in the meantime.

>>42568818
I already tried kimi and it’s still not good enough.

Recommended temp for kimi?

>>42568208
VNANON

YOU ARE RUINING MY PRODUCTIVITY.

KEEP IT UP.

>>42569510
Anon? No... No Anon... Why has Anon abandoned us...

>>42569551
It's too late, he can't be saved anymore...

He didn't need to call out the VN like that...

>>42569970
I've had Nightmare Maid Rarity say almost that exact same thing. They're meant for each other.

Soon.

>>42567773
But there is a nuance - all AI companies not so rich as Google and rely only on investors money. Thus, ChatGPT and Claude have more chances to drop out than Google.

>>42540649
Stealth release of the new version, I will upload it correctly on the website once I'm sure it's stable and without too much bugs.
So make sure to keep your previous installation safe.

>EquestrAI:
https://u.pone.rs/tludixfz.zip
>PonyPonyParadise!:
https://u.pone.rs/tyhlcxpr.zip

>Update:
Canterlot!:
Locations available on the map are: The Throne room, Royal Garden, Donut Joe's shop, Airship Harbor, Canterlot Café, Canterlot Plaza, Shopping District
And for dynamic or manual switching: Luna's bedroom, Celestia's bedroom, train station.
The CustomLocations folder is now separated between a Ponyville and Canterlot folders, so if you added some new place, make sure to place them in the right folder.
https://files.catbox.moe/e0htc7.PNG
To go to Canterlot, click on the train station.
https://files.catbox.moe/pbe01p.PNG
Here you can go directly to it or trigger a train scene with a random pony that will also go to Canterlot for the day.
https://files.catbox.moe/2cmcgd.PNG
https://files.catbox.moe/ixi17s.PNG
To switch to Canterlot to Ponyville, click on the button here.
https://files.catbox.moe/05p9xn.PNG
This will be updated later, with also a better station system.
- Celestia and Luna are available in Canterlot for visits outside of the dream realm or the weekly convocation.
- New characters: Blueblood, Fleur de Lys, Fancy Pants, Donut Joe and Photo Finish.
- Locations can now have description that will be sent to the AI if your scenes happen here.
https://files.catbox.moe/eczm1j.PNG
Check the Lake in Ponyville for an example on how to do this.
- You can activate an option to be able to advance to the afternoon during Q/A. It's off by default, so enable it here if you want it.
https://files.catbox.moe/g0tki8.PNG
https://files.catbox.moe/u8ssmu.PNG
- Pressing back or scrolling should normally always work for both scenes and Q/A.
- The option to get your own house now activate after one day in sandbox mode.

>Stuffs I need to add:
- Better train and station system on the Canterlot side.
- A place to sleep in Canterlot, either a guest room or Twilight's old one.
- Some of the Dashie mod checks: >>42528951, >>42529249
- Update the docs, lol

>>42570499
Nice. Time to go seduce Twilight's mom.

>>42570513
We do have her:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
But you may need to update her schedule so she's mainly in Canterlot.
Also, if you find a good background for her house, I'm taking it.

>>42570499
Nice!

>>42570524
No no, I know all that.

As for her house... Shining Armour's House is as good as any.

>>42570529
This one?
A bit martial, but yeah, it could work.
There's this one too, but it's a bit plain:
https://files.catbox.moe/jr46ww.png
(Should be good this time, kek)

>>42570525
>1 liner
>1 essay
>1 liner
>1 essay
>1 liner
>1 essay
Fuck off.

>>42570599
>enjoying 10 word rp slop

>>42570603
>Spending exponentially more time reading LLM slop than thinking on your own

>>42570633
why are you even here? the writing thread is that way

>>42570637
So defensive because all your logs are trash to consoom.

the anti ai guy is here as well, huh?

That's just slopbot, he's been at it for a couple of threads now, thinking his opinion on other people's logs is worth a shit. Best ignore.

>>42570599
Almost every log posted in this thread follows the same patterns.
>overly long responses
>AI speaking for {{user}}
>minimal engagement from the user
>full of obvious isms and repeating patterns
>no indication of model used, not even the built in provider icon

>>42570662
Literally who?
>>42570732
Pathetic isn't it.

Anyone can post logs with their headcanon of what's best btw, so feel free to share yours.

>>42570732
>>42570762
samefag

Love me some Doctor A. Stotl.

>>42570902
>7 responses without any user input
do people just like reading here?

>>42570902
I like when she's like this, passionate, but not too robotic or stereotypical.

>>42570917
I'd say yes. When one engages in a medium that's a good ninty percent reading, one would like reading. 'Course, bait is bait and you should master it somewhere else.

>>42570499
We just need the Crystal Empire now.

>>42570925
nta and you with no self awareness wonder why greens are dead on this board.

>>42570959
Of course oh Master Baits. Of Course! What ever shall I do to satiate your raging log-on!
Must I instruct the bot to pleasure me with but one word alone?
>"Cum"
And so I did mistress Twilight! And so I did...

>>42570953
I thought about it, I just need to find a good overworld map and also decide which characters and locations to put in. At least enough to make it interesting.

Have a question about the VN's custom locations. I'm adding a bunch as an excuse to add music from VNs I like. If I add "forest_path" or "cave" with the description in the JSON file being "a cave" or "a forest path" will they appear if a generic cave is mentioned in conversation?

>>42571179
It's all text sent to the AI. I would add "generic" to the name and desc to reinforce to the AI when it's appropriate to use.

>>42570991
>Must I instruct the bot to pleasure me with but one word alone?
4 less words difference from your last proompt.

>>42571179
What is sent to the model is the ID of the location. If you don't have one in the JSON, it takes the name of the folder.
So for example, if you have a custom location in a folder called "cave," the AI will know to call it if it needs a cave.
The description is only sent once you have a scene or Q/A inside the location. A use for it, for instance, would be to add a particular detail to the cave, etc.

>>42571208
Ok. Thats what I wanted to know, that the AI can move to that place if it needs a "cave" or "forest_path" or a "BDSM Sex Dungeon", etc.

we're going down, WE'RE GOING DOWN

>>42570953

Make your own for now broski. CustomLocations + a little bit of map editing works great

>>42571347
Kek.
Love it.

>>42571347
>Daybreaker is eating pies with Apple family while Derpy serves them muffins
>Moondancer brought her black friend to school so he finally learn some basic math (he cant do drugs without math you know)
>Twilight's mom gossiping with Fluttershy about BigMac's dick
>Celestia crashed in woods because of her enormous fat ass and RD went to rescue her
>Nightmare Moon fired Rarity and put Roseluck in charge of Boutique
>Rarity run to Luna to tell on NMM while Twigly taking a spa in next room (not my fucking business, it is my day off)
>Shining and Lyra bonding over kicking the ass of Tiara, with Vinyl's music sets the rhythm for beating
>Mash's mom fucks her son in the middle of Sugarcube. it puts a smile on Maud's face
>I have no idea what this building is but clearly Starlight did something communistic, Cadence did something imperialistic, Belle suffered in process, and Redheart fucked all them
>Spike is jacking off in library
ahh, Friday in Ponyville

>>42571382

I will take this as canon in my story. Thank you lmfao.

Also I didnt align the portal coordinates properly on the map so it overlapped with Cafe Hay a bit. Hence the stacked characters.

>>42571347
Pony Life aah map

>>42570499
Oh nice. If I get around to trying this, it's always nice to know you're starting something after it's just gotten a big update.

Btw, is it possible to play a canon pony, or are you always Anon or The Researcher (who we all know is just anon mare)?

New Bread
>>42571687
>>42571687
>>42571687

>>42571703
For playing a canon character, I would remove one from the game if it's already there (delete the folder in CustomCharacters or the schedule if it's a main one) and explain the scenario in Custom Start so the AI sets it up for you.
There are also persona fields where you can detail who you are, etc.