Thread 42762946

This is the alternative MLP fan site general thread. Discussion, development suggestions, and criticisms are all welcome here.

SFW Filter Month Edition

>why alternate boorus?
The absolute state of Derpibooru has led to the development of various alternatives. Many altbooru staffmembers are present ITT, listening to comments and answering questions.
Note that this is NOT the Derpibooru drama general. Please keep posts about Derpibooru in the mlpg.co thread.

>why alternate text sites?
Pastebin persistently purges pony pastes. FimFiction does not allow stories in greentext format. FimFetch censors foalcon and other material deemed to be "unacceptable" by the whims of its libelous hypocrite: https://ponepaste.org/9926

>general purpose boorus
ponerpics.org by Lotus [!!VL3e2tgvNo5]
ponybooru.org by Zizzy [!DizzyMC4pc]
twibooru.org by Twifag and Floorb [!!mdpTjuXo6BG]

>specialized boorus
booru.foalcon.com by Pathos (underage)
lyrabooru.org (hot glue)

>(green)text and other fanfiction
ponepaste.org by Aftercase [!!KXV0q+Lg38e], managed by Floorb

>dedicated archives
a0346f102085fe9f.github.io/IAS2
foalfetch.net by Floorb
horsewords.org
iwiftp.yerf.org by Rome
mulpwiki.batpony.party

>video sharing
pony.tube by Twifag and Floorb

>file sharing
pone.rs
ponut.space

>microblogging
pone.social by Twifag and Floorb

>link shortening
derpy.me

On past /fast/s:
>Ponerpics duplicate queue has several hundred reports awaiting an update to Derpi metadata handling
>Twibooru importer disrupted by Derpi API change; fix implemented and missed images retrieved (and again)
>SunBooru resumes development
>Twibooru begins importing from Manebooru
>PonePaste UI improvements go live
>Pony.Tube future expansion under consideration
>Ponerpics disables anonymous tag editing to curb spam; results promising
>derpy.me back online after purging spam links
>IWIFTP relaunches Tor hidden service: 647jnod5oc7bzj3tpjq2qaaq6j73sa4h43whqeubkvkbvm52yecm72id.onion
>Twibooru slows to a crawl due to a network routing issue; fix implemented overnight
+IWIFTP launches i2p service: ow7qtlpe3u36qob4dgoo3opifaj335hbk6gxv43tfjjzhvky5zwa.b32.i2p
+Quad9 DNS block of Twibooru successfully appealed
+PonePaste domain expires; gets transferred to Floorb
+PonyTube and Pone.Social receive updates courtesy of Floorb
+Ponerpics prev/next image shortcuts fixed; move to Ponybooru fork of Philomena announced

Previous thread: >>42611248

>>42762946 (OP)
first

>>42762949
I've been using ponerpics for stockpiling images as someone told me twibooru and ponybooru both blocked Aryanne content.

Is this true or have i been duped?

>>42762959
You've been duped.

>>42762959
Ponybooru has not blocked Aryanne content.
Of the 126 images tagged with Aryanne that have been removed, 70% of them are duplicate images, 25% are from the same DNP image being uploaded 20 times (and another 4 times), and the remaining handful of images stem from various artists' DNPs.
None of them have been removed just because Aryanne happened to be present.
Twibooru will have had fewer images of her removed on account of them not doing DNPs.

>>42762959
You've been massively duped. One of the main reasons ponybooru and twibooru got to exist in the first place was because of Aryanne.

>>42762959
>twibooru and ponybooru both blocked Aryanne content
Massive fucking fake news of the highest order. Someone is either horribly misinformed or wanted to mess with you on purpose.

>>42763034
>>42763058
>>42763069
>>42763114
>Be me
>Be retarded
Guess guess i probably shouldn't listen to people on mlpol.

Would there be any reason to use one booru over another?
They all seem to function and look pretty much the same but i only bothered to make an account on ponerpics.

>>42763143
Both Ponerpics and Twibooru have the same hardline no-takedown policy. Choosing one isn't a moral dilemma, it just comes down to which particular features you want (e.g. Poner's forums vs. Twi's text & MP4 uploads).

Bonk.

>>42763143
Ponerpics and Ponybooru are communities, Twibooru is just an archive, not intended to engage with the people there (comments are normally turned off and only anonymous). Twibooru keeps everything up, Ponerpics keeps mostly everything up, Ponybooru is shady in that regard, there was some drama over a picture being deleted without the artist's request or something but I forgot what it was.

>>42762946 (OP)
Can't read ponepaste on mobile. Text overflows out of the screen and I can't scroll to the right.

>>42763800
>>42763263
So twibooru would be good for hunting pics and poner pics for chewing the fat.

Regardless of where i go i just naturally asume there's gonna be some degree drama amongst users, thats a thing you'll get everywhere.

>>42763800
>Ponybooru is shady in that regard, there was some drama over a picture being deleted without the artist's request or something but I forgot what it was
twi3027548, deleted because two Ponybooru staff at the time didn't want outed for being foalfags but given context were probably foalfags.
>Twibooru is just an archive
This is mostly because /mlp/ hasn't completely died and this thread exists. The forums are rigged to be operational pretty quickly after the last shitshow.
>>42763143
>guess i probably shouldn't listen to people on mlpol
Given they have a vested interest in shilling their option over others (for some reason, now) and the general rot of the imageboard in question, yeah. Probably get multiple sources for info next time, anon.

>>42763855
>Outed for being foalfags
Who the fuck cares?
>After the last shitshow
What kind of shitshow could possibly come from archiving pics?

Yeh pretty much nothing going on with mlpol, get less than 10 posts a day there most days and half of them are probably me.

>>42763934
>Who the fuck cares?
Them, apparently.
>What kind of shitshow could possibly come from archiving pics?
Not from archival, but from communication mediums of choice eating shit and dying like earlier this year.

>>42763934
>What kind of shitshow could possibly come from archiving pics?
It's <current year>. You can get a shitshow even from not doing something.

>>42763800
>Twibooru keeps everything up, Ponerpics keeps mostly everything up
Not to invoke the threadschizo, but Poner's policies are more lenient when it comes to non-pony OCs. I can't think of one pic that's been deleted off Poner but is still on Twi.
>>42763934
>>42763967
YOUR PONY FAN WEB SITE THAT YOU DO FOR FREE HAS TO BE UP 24/7 OTHERWISE YOU SHOULD NOT RUN A SITE AT ALL
YOU MUST DO IT FOR FREE 24/7 AND YOU ARE INCOMPETENT AND SHOULD KILL YOURSELF IF YOU HAVE EVEN 1 SECOND OF DOWNTIME PER DECADE

>>42764056
Given that the differences between boorus is pretty small, I'm probably going to just stick with ponerpics as it's working fine for me and its got most of what I'm looking for anyway.

>YOUR PONY FAN WEB SITE THAT YOU DO FOR FREE HAS TO BE UP 24/7 OTHERWISE YOU SHOULD NOT RUN A SITE AT ALL
YOU MUST DO IT FOR FREE 24/7 AND YOU ARE INCOMPETENT AND SHOULD KILL YOURSELF IF YOU HAVE EVEN 1 SECOND OF DOWNTIME PER DECADE

The fuck was all that about?

>>42763143
>Guess guess i probably shouldn't listen to people on mlpol
You should never listen to those people, Anon. They don't care about mares. They only care about furthering their political ideas using pone as a vehicle. They are literally the same as the danger hairs, but on the other direction.

>>42764056
>Poner's policies are more lenient when it comes to non-pony OCs.
I'm mostly talking about their stance on paywalled content. Twibooru's is a clear "we're going to keep it up anyway, cope and seethe" whereas Ponerpics doesn't have a clear policy and seems to mostly keep it up merely out of inactivity of the moderation, but that's not a guarantee.

>>42764708
Mostly true, and they're just as insufferable to be around as the woke leftoids on Derpi. Shame that sensible people no longer exist.

>>42763143
>>42763846
Basically.

Twibooru has a lot more stuff that has been deleted from derpi for dnp and alike. >>42752855
However it has a tagging problem, there are not enough users to compete with derpi on that regard and it doesn't automatically sync the edits.

>>42765108
Maybe Twibooru's importer is just faster than Ponerpics so it catches more.

Also don't forget that Twibooru automatically adds the tag "deleted from derpibooru" to loli uploads. The posts may have never even existed on Derpibooru and Ponerpics, due to its more active community, removes the misleading tags on import from Twibooru.

>>42765144
I checked by hand a couple pics that were uploaded on derpi about 12 years ago, the artist tag has been purged some time later for dnp, and I wan't able to find these images on poner. Haven't tried ponybooru, so I think they only exist now on twi, since the deviantart source is gone too.

>>42765144
>Also don't forget that Twibooru automatically adds the tag "deleted from derpibooru" to loli uploads.
Not anymore, these implications have been removed.

>>42764911
Back in the good old days of 2020 when Ponerpics first popped up, there was some consideration of DNPs:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/35572418/#35582604
Thankfully, this never materialized into anything. The DNP request system on Ponerpics is essentially a practical joke aimed at anyone who'd be petty enough to waste time demanding his horsey scribbles be erased from history.
That's not to say the Site Rules page shouldn't be updated. The removal of "More rules, particularly concerning the rights of artists, may be added in the future" was a good start, but "This is a My Little Pony Archive Site" isn't as concrete of a statement as I'd like it to be, considering the innumerable self-described "archives" that purge their collections at the drop of a hat.
>>42765144
>Twibooru automatically adds the tag "deleted from derpibooru" to loli uploads.
It never has. The [lolicon] and [shotacon] tags used to imply [banned from derpibooru], but that implication was removed over two months ago following an internal discussion over the precise nature of Derpi's lolisho policy. Spoiler alert: it's as inconsistently applied as the rest of them.

>>42765199
>>42765257
I see, I stand corrected then.

>>42764921
You can find some of them here. But using the own common sense still applies.

What's your go-to for finding cute art you haven't seen before on the boorus?

>>42766028
Every day, perhaps twice a day, usually while I eat, I scroll through the images that were posted since the last time I did that. Takes 15 minutes at most.

>>42766131
>browsing while you eat
I hope your filters are up to snuff, pun not intended.

>>42766269
I used to browse rekt/dark webm threads while eating on b and gif no problem, years ago when they were fun.

>>42766028
Random chance on Poner or Twi, really. I don't frequent pages like DA and such anymore.

>>42766355
should boorus do more to prevent underageb& from accessing inappropriate content?

>>42767426
If the government forces them to and they can't flip a bird, they have no other option.

>>42766355
>while eating on b and gif no problem
You have received permanent mental damage.

>>42767463
Why not join 4chan in a class action suit against Ofcom?
>>42768426
It's called not being a fucking pussy.

>>42768435
>It's called not being a fucking pussy.
I did not say you are a pussy if you can't stand gore. But I stand by the mental damage statement.

>>42763058
>Ponybooru has not blocked Aryanne content.
They totally would if Ass Stalker complained enough. They already proved that just like Derpi OC owners matter more than artists to them.

>>42768426
True, I did. I regret nothing.
>>42768435
If you have infinite money sure I guess.

How many mares?

>>42769338
>Ass Stalker
Literally who?

>>42770063
Newfag.

>>42770077
Call me what you will, I'd like to know who that is so that I can ignore any complaints regarding Aryanne he may send Ponybooru's way.

>>42770126
What makes you think you shouldn't ignore any complaints you get about Aryanne no matter from whom they come? If it's not the government of course.

>>42770147
What makes you think I won't ignore such complaints anyway?

>>42770174
Use case for asking about Ass Stalker if you plan to ignore him anyway?

>>42770040
Yes.

Guys I know you’re all very excited about the cutting edge upload capabilities of IWIFTP but please don’t Sib Mouse my upload folder or at least get better taste thanks

>>42770776
lol kek

>>42770776
I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>42770776
You don't like when people upload unrelated crap to your archive? Are you telling me it's some kind of curated collection or something then?

>>42771816
That's a lot of assuming coming from so little brain power

>>42771824
You sound angry.

>>42771832
Feel free to contribute

>>42771838
Why does he create so much salt?

How much do booru mods get paid?

>>42772805
They get paid in exposition.

>>42772805
I pay them with blowjobs :)

>>42773094
Where do I cash that in
I want a mare, please

>>42773094
Based. Men give the best head because they know exactly what a guy likes.

You'd be such a good little slut wouldn't you?

>>42774111
He wouldn't, because exchanging sexual favors for labor is whoredom, not sluttery.

>>42772805
You jest but they hold a lot of social power over the fandom.

>>42774141
Oh yeah, like /mlp/ jannies right? Beloved by all

>>42774143
Better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.

>>42774165
>t. nmmfag

>>42774165
Feared?

>>42774221
>cumg on the left sharty on the right

Why does twiburro hate deers sm

Uppo.

why is there no booru that bans pedoshit but keeps aryanne?

>>42775383
Your fiction is bad my fiction good head ass.

Thoughts on >>42774737?

>>42775435
I believe there was a period awhile ago where e621 did a purge of a bunch of content, it might have been anthro foalcon or loli or something like that. At that time I downloaded all of the MLP content from e621, and I've had it sitting around as a project to import into Twibooru at some point.

>>42775521
>purge
Not quite: circa 2020, they set the default blacklist to hide every nonsafe image tagged with "young", forcing you to make an account if you want to access that material. Still good to have an archive; did you scrape all the metadata? e621 sourcelinks can be invaluable in tracking down unuploaded pone.

>>42775599
There was some kind of purge a lot more recent than that - I'm thinking either this year or last. I know something specific triggered me to do it. Yes, it includes all the metadata the API returned, if I recall.

>>42775435
Oh the inhumanity! All of the porn in one place properly tagged!? What monsters would do such a thing?

>>42775691
>properly tagged
Anon, I...

>>42775691
That's why I prefer paheal to xxx honestly
Less tagging means less opportunities for incorrect, inconsistent or incompetent tagging

>>42775604
Guess that kind of stuff is going to happen much more often as time goes on. The internet is under siege these days.

>>42777011
All the more reason to have as many databases archiving all that is worth saving, right?

>>42762946 (OP)
Since most of these sites are built on derpis stuff maybe you horsefuckers could help me out where the mods of derpi can't. I have made a bot that auto downloads a user's favrioted posts from various sites including derpi. We use pagination to get the users favriotes since I didn't see a way to sort by date favrioted through the api call at first. I do see one now. But unsure if this will help or do anything. We send the users api key and monitor the responses. Apply now hard coded cool offs between each download of 6 seconds and when getting the bot check from their middleware we even employ a 60 seconds back off, 10 times longer than they say is needed. This works and then randomly we get that ip blocked. I know it's their middleware and seemingly some ddos protection. But is there something I need to add? It seems to happen a bit at random. But the bots inefficient and I wonder if the search methodology is hitting a daily api use limit thats not listed. The bot checks every 2 hours, but because a user can favriote a post from any time period, and favriotes aren't in chronological order I have to use the pagination to get each page. So if it's a 10k limit with 2k pages for a user than that would jive with what I'm seeing. If it is a hidden cap then I suppose using the sf and sd will solve it then alongside comparing id's. If two are found in the database on that page to have already been downloaded then do not go to the next page, end derpi loop. I just don't know if that will solve it or simply mask the issue though. And if i add more actions then we would still hit that cap. Like I said its middleware so I know it's not written into the sites framework that the alt boorus are based on. But I'm not a network and security nerd so help is appreciated. Seems dumb to have a bot check on an api, where the mods say "your bot has no way of passing". But it's apparently ddos protection

>>42777443
have you tried asking it on derpi forums why are you asking about derpi shit here of all places faggot

>>42777505
>where the derpi mods couldn't
>since most of these sites are built on derpi

Felt i pretty much explained why? I also assume I'll probably get requests for alts too, and I would be happy to support them. So if they have similar things it can be headed off. And generally this is viewed by admins of the various boorus so it seems a good way to get more knowledgeable help, from pony first people.

>>42777443
>Due to recent attacks, we have changed API search rate limits.
>Before: 20 requests per 10 seconds
>After: 10 requests per 10 seconds
If you're using pagination then each new page counts as a new request. You're definitely going to want to sort by date favorited after a first (slow) query for the updates.

>>42777443
>>42777520
Does your third world shithole not have paragraph breaks?

>>42777309
Sure. It's always good to have redundancies. You never know when you might need them,

>>42777604
Turns out I can't. I thought that was an option with modification date. But that refers to modification of the file date, which makes sense. So i don't believe there is a date added to favriotes sorting. We already added a hard coded pause for downloads but good point, if there are no new favriotes on that page durring a check it will adhere to the 20 requests per 10 seconds posted on the api docs. Maybe that's it? Though we should have seen the back off requests follow those calls. I'll try decreasing the pagination rate.
>>42777605
Sorry saar. Thank you come again

>>42763058
>honoring dnps
jej
>>42763143
Sounds like you fit right in with them.
>>42771816
>cockless shitting his diapers unprompted while not realizing the irony of his statement

Should I focus on uploading all my stuff to Ponerpics, Twibooru or Ponybooru?

>>42778619
Just upload it to derpi man
They'll re-upload it from there anyway

>>42778273
Why are you accusing me, the person who has been ragging on that tranny the most here, of being Cockless?

>>42778619
I first uploaded my stuff to Ponerpics because I thought everything would drip down from there, but Ponerpics often bans the Twibooru importer (supposedly in error, but you never know these days). Uploading to Ponybooru caused my image to be held in "awaiting approval" state for over 2 weeks. So I guess Twibooru is probably the wisest choice.

How do I search for a specific youtube video ID on the ponyarchive?
I'm looking for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKqlCRMRS1Y
Original title is "Coco [PMW]"

>>42778821 (me)
Found the author and the thumbnail, but can't find the channel (id):
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2024/08/pmvparody-coco.html

>>42778273
>>42778634
>threadschizos now pointing fingers at each other instead of random Anons
that's fucking hilarious

>>42778956
Do girls do NNN too?

>>42778972
I dunno, they got nut to not november?

>>42778979
You might.

>>42778821 (me)
>>42778831 (me)
Ok so I found a backup of it on bilibili. Thanks for the Chinese copying everything. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV165mSYYEGJ/
Quality is not the best, but better than nothing.

Also the BlueBolt channel despite running for many many years was not archived by ThePonyArchive sadly. Channeld Id is (was) UCRaOngDEWWIoQ_iOLwIXU7Q

>>42763855
>Given they have a vested interest in shilling their option over others (for some reason, now) and the general rot of the imageboard in question, yeah. Probably get multiple sources for info next time, anon.
A search of mlpol for "Ponybooru" gives no instances of posts stating that Ponybooru blocks Aryanne, nor am I aware of anyone saying anything like that on related servers.

>>42763143
>Why use one booru over the other
We are the only booru to use Derpy's color scheme as the default theming, and therefore are the best.

>>42778657
It is not "often" banned, and certainly not intentionally. A couple years ago PonerPics was being overloaded by bot spam, and I blocked a number of nations to try to stop it. It was found that one of those nations was the one that Twibooru's importer came from. This was for a period of at most a week, and was rectified as soon as I became aware.

A couple months ago, there was another serious issue with bot spam, and I saw a rule in cloudflare with a name implying it blocked a specific country that was a problem. It actually blocked [country redacted], which is Twibooru's Importer country ID. That too, was undone as soon as I found out, after only a few days. It's a total of maybe 10 or at most 14 days of blockage in over five years of both websites existing.

>>42765257
Yeah, that really does need to be updated

>>42765167
This is definitely I project I would like to look into in the future

>>42779417
>It is not "often" banned, and certainly not intentionally.
For anyone else questioning - this and the rest of that part of the reply are completely true.
Recently (and by this I mean probably 6-8 months ago,) something changed, and the Philomena websocket endpoint on PonerPics stopped working, so the importer relying on it stopped working as well. This happened on Derpibooru as well, but for a different reason, several months later. I've worked on an importer that doesn't rely on that endpoint, which I use for Derpibooru right now, but I just haven't set it up for PonerPics yet. I guess I can investigate that right about now.

>>42779655
>I guess I can investigate that right about now.
And it's now been done. I don't know why I didn't do that sooner.

>>42778956
>criticism of a website's moderation is "schizo"
You should've stayed on Derpi.

>>42779664
Was that bug the reason for this report >>42749646? Well, good to know it's fixed now anyway.

>>42779417
>It is not "often" banned, and certainly not intentionally.
Sorry, I don't generally assume malice, because I think all the altboorus probably have mostly the same objective. It's just, like I said, you never know these days because everyone seems to have an agenda.

>>42779655
I also had an issue with my own PonerPics scraper. It would work for a few thousand images, and then it would get stuck with some error from the site. No matter what I did I could not get my scraper to automatically recover from the error. It was like the error was cached even though nothing on my end should have been caching anything. Not even a half hour delay before retrying the image would work. But if I manually restarted my scraper, the site would immediately work again. It was strange. I think it took me over two months to scraper Poner because of this.