Thread 126655497

Absent Lovers Edition

What is Progressive Rock?
>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/

Good albums to start with?
>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.png

Obscure prog gems
>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/

Formerly >>126575398

>>126655497 (OP)
Fuck off

>>126655497 (OP)
Hm based

Kita the /prog/!

The /prog/tagonist

Coltrane-esque

>>126655497 (OP)
I stopped browsing /prog/ when some dudes got mad at the QUEEN of prog (kita) but now I have a good reason to come back.
Thanks OP.

>>126656016
>QUEEN of prog (kita)
that would be Megumin

sorry whores the queen of prog is already Brian Eno

>>126655577
add a pee stream

Man what happened
I really liked The Fall of Hearts but the last few albums were weak and this one is completely forgettable besides the singles

>>126657381
Not prog, that's what happened.

>put on flying teapot for the first time
>house loses power

>>126657471
>Not prog

For me? it's In The Wake Of Poseidon

>>126657564
>Progressive Metal
Not prog

>>126655497 (OP)
Bye guys. I'm abandoning these generals since they have devolved into shameless whore posting. I will discuss individual prog albums on the board from now on.

>>126657564
>average song 4 minutes
yeah. not prog

>>126658534
Most Gentle Giant songs aren't long either

>>126655497 (OP)
worst KC live album

>>126657587
sharty lost

>>126658406
Please don't leave

>>126658406
attention whore posting

>>126660020
>Kita-chan
Red
>Gotou-san
ITCOTCK

What's the accompanying KC album for the other Kessoku's? I'm thinking Islands for Ryo

>>126660354
>Nijika
ToaPP
>Ryo
Beat

>Megumin
Magma
>Darkness
ELP
>Aqua
Yes
>Iris
Genesis
>Eris
King Crimson

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fhTtnobNKg
Moggs

What is the girls last tour of prog rock?

>>126662692
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpNh93pFbI

>>126662692
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVyrPFAl1cI&t=2

https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/118278926/#q118303368
Well, after almost two years and going through the entire Flower Kings discography to find a song I found out it was not a TFK song after all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoTJ5LnO0jA
How did I even make this connection

>>126655864
nearly all of magma is trane inspired, that is literally the point of the band

>>126658406
i dont blame you, the quality here is trash now

Adrian has a lot of harsh things he always wanted to say about Fripp, but he doesn't want to be mean. It's Belew the belt.

Why did he lose 6 million jews?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBO4Wqn8xr0
Holy shit

>>126655497 (OP)
prog is life

>>126665437
The Great Deceiver box set is just straight up some of the best music I've ever heard. That band had an energy unlike any other group at the time. Yes, even better than Magma.

cringe will be my epitaph

Listening to UK

>>126666991
the fuck does that mean? how are you "listening" to a country? god damn retards itt.

>>126667168
:)

>>126667168
And that's what no one did.

>>126655512
>>126658406
>>126663461
Maybe we could improve the thread with more pictures of Tony Banks' face

Is this progrock, /prog/?
https://youtu.be/MgX5KLnwr1k

>ruptured a hemorrhoid and now there's dried blood in my arse hair/undies
Prog for this feel?

TIL Arjen got knighted a couple months ago
Don't know how big of a deal it is in Dutchland, should I call him "Sir" now

>>126669276
Where's Sir Robert's knighthood? Surely even Charles himself got down on some King Crimson back in the day.

>>126669635
There can be only one King

>>126657587
I listened to that just the other day. It sounded like the first album, but not quite as good.

is prog prog?

>>126672247
No. That's a talking heads cover band, New Wave

>>126672247
sometimes

>>126665903
It's been made obsolete by the Starless boxset.

Holy shit the version of MDK in here is so good

Tony's greatest contribution to Genesis was kicking Hackett out.

Who is the Mingus of prog rock?

>>126673750
Pingus

>>126673750
Himself

>>126672247
only progressive prog

>>126669635
he's not a freemason, nor has sacrificed children, so he can't be knighted.

>>126673071
yeah if you want a bunch of duplicates of the same songs in varying sound quality, just like how the Yes box set has made Yessongs """""obsolete"""""

>prog with hammond organ
yeah, i'm finna blast it cuh

prog with harpsichord?

prog for fans of prog?

>>126676965
Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition

anything good that released in the last 10 years?

>>126677044
My album

>>126677044
any Magma album released in the last 10 years

>>126676360
The Starless boxset literally contains all the material on The Great Deceiver and more.

>>126677411
>and more
yeah, more recordings of the same songs over and over again, it's a nice boxset for archival purposes, but i don't need 20 different versions of lament, and the best performances of those songs have already been chosen for TGD which is a more cohesive package with less redundancy.

does /prog/ like Jazz?

>>126677411
It doesn't have "literally everything," including the Pennsylvania concerts on Disc 3, or the first four tracks of Disc 4 at Massey Hall. So shut the fuck up dumbass. This means that Starless is missing some great improvs.

>>126677044
i've heard it>>126677089
it's good!

>>126677511
>shut the fuck up dumbass
nta but that's a little harsh

>>126677044
Geordi Greep & the Black Midis

>>126677511
Op here. So you precious little live album doesn't contain everything, but it still has a lot of material that is either duplicated or surpassed by the Starless box set.

RIP Brian Wilson the godfather of prog

>>126673750
no one

so when do these guys start to become unique?

>>126679591
Rip

>>126682579
Literally right after that album.

>>126678893
ESL

Which album will make me feel like listening to the court of the crimson king for the first time again?

>>126683542
I read something a while ago that Geoff Travis of Rough Trade told Black Midi that they gave him the same feeling of seeing the original King Crimson in 1969. Maybe that's just marketing fluff but I thought it was cool.

>>126677448
>posts the least jazz and least proggy album ever made

>>126679591
Not prog

>>126673750
Whatever prog is the darling of dweeby RYM femboys

>>126684498
Pet Sounds and Smile are essential canonical proto-prog

>>126684860
if proto-prog is prog then proto-proto-prog is prog so everything is prog

Everything but Swans is prog

is it prog?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAGjrfk9M6A

>>126673189
the Retrospektiw albums are really great. I'm listening to Theusz Hamtaahk right now

>>126655497 (OP)
Are ELP ballads like lucky man or from the beginning actually prog rock?

Not asking if they’re good, because they are great.
But elp does have non prog stuff like are you ready eddy

who is the Chopin of prog?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=R_nviNS0IAw
Is this prog?

>>126684836
>Whatever prog is the darling of dweeby RYM femboys
RYM doesn't even seem to like prog that much outside of King Crimson. outside of that it's the normal dad-prog bands like Yes, Genesis, ELP, that are highly rated there.

>>126686460
My honest Fripp reaction

>>126687500
i like elp

>>126671232
I do like Wake of Poseidon but yeah, the big problem with it is it literally just sounds like Court but not as good for the first half.
>>126677044
Pic related is from 20 years but most of the albums on here are good. Though I think this image may have been made before From Silence to Somewhere came out which is a more direct answer to your question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k2OzIG-0Zg

>>126677044
The Chronicles of Father Robin
>>126687959
I love prog, it makes metalcore good

...Kita to the rescue

>>126685256
kek I posted that same screenshot here ages ago
It's baffling how much King Crimson is referenced in japanese cave paintings

>>126691980
It's everywhere.

>>126692170
Hack detected

what's your favorite Renaissance album

I like ConstruKction more than Court

>>126693343
are you retarded by chance?

>>126693343
contrarian take

>>126693343
cunny take

>>126693934
I wouldn't be surprised
>>126693994
It does sound like one but it's true
I liked it a lot when I was first getting into prog as a teen but nowadays I find it hard to go back to. Not a bad album by any stretch but Crimson's one of those bands that just gets better with every lineup. The interplay between Adrian and Robert and all the weird metrical stuff going on scratches my autist brain in a way the debut doesn't.
That said, the production isn't overly great but it kinda has its charm after a few listens. I like what ReconstruKction was going for with the acoustic kit, I just wish Pat didn't change his parts so much; I feel like he overplays quite a bit, especially on stuff like FraKctured
SABB or Thrak would still be my top Crimson albums though

>>126661513
Which one’s pink?

>>126679591
Not prog, not a loss for music

>>126684860
Commit fantanocide, hipster

>>126692644
This one

>>126695684
He's pointing at us...

>>126695684
Imagine being a millennial teen going to see a Tool show and these scruffy boomers walk out onstage.

>>126695748
They play some tricky shit though albeit

Johns bass just before the violin solo in Larks 2 on The Night Watch album sounds fucking huge

>>126655497 (OP)
What is progressive about progressive rock?

>>126696441
it progresses
sometimes

>>126692644
I go back and forth between Ashes and Scheherazade. I love Annie Haslam so much bros.

>>126696482
Not since 1975.

what does /kita/ think? after a few relistens i think this might be the least interesting magma studio album for me along with zess. the rerecorded material is nice but the long tracks like hhai and zombies were imo perfected eons ago in live75 and udu wudu respectively. the third movement is prolly the only reason to check it out. it's their classic, foreboding build-up.

>>126695748
Maybe my memory is failing me, but I don’t remember things like that bothering people very much back then.

Thanks to whoever keeps mentioning Ruins. Checked out Burning Stone and really enjoyed that album - listening on repeat. >>126673750

>>126697126
Tonybros...

>>126696609
I would say the opposite, for me this album fit the Udu Wudu tracks much more nicely and made the first side redundant
I still haven't listened to any live Magma, at this point I'm scared I won't like it

>>126696609
>/whore/
>filtered by Zess
opinion discarded

I have a hard time getting into Magma. I've been listening to them on and off for about 10 years now, listening to all their albums from their debut to KA. I just can't seem to connect with their material past that point in recent years, I really like the first two albums and then they just lose me from there. Is there any hope for me?

>>126699799
> I really like the first two albums and then they just lose me from there
I mean, they're first two albums are their closest albums to regular late 60s/early 70s progressive rock/jazz rock so that's probably why.

HOLY SHIT

>>126700461
"shit" being the operative word here

>>126700607
Hi Dave

>>126700461
>>126700607
This really was stunningly bad. It sounds like waters specifically sought out all of the best parts of the album and removed them and replaced them with nothing. Shout outs to Time and Money for coming out particularly bad.

>>126700461
oh yeah... that happened

>>126700838
it sounds like a lounge band rendition of the album

>>126700702
You don't need to hate Roger to know this Redux is garbage. Only the most dedicated Rogerfags pretend to like it.

>>126700888
It's literally "listens to Leonard Cohen once"

Still shid

>>126698504
>I still haven't listened to any live Magma, at this point I'm scared I won't like it
why? it's the same music, most of their live stuff has the studio-level production too

>>126700888
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH1HdvsyrRc

>>126700948
kek. i like that he made sure to add the pudding part

>>126700912
>>126700888
The production on it is good. But it really has nothing to do with the original album.
More Roger drivel.

>>126696609
fuck off faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FdXmAPM8u4
Thoughts about the new kino?

>>126702636
old good new bad

the only difference between 80s genesis and 80s kc is that genesis sold 6 gorrilion albums a minute and kc didn't

>>126702636
People still like this prog-pastiche metalcore?

>>126702636
>big hooky chorus
yeah I'm out, to the trash with this regressive pop rock

A flower lady's daughter
As sweet as holy water
Said "I'm a school reporter..

>>126703575
metalheads tend to only listen to metal, so when a prog/avant band introduces tacky sounding shit from other genres (neo classical, bossa nova, country, whatever the fuck) to them its mindblowing because they're cavemen who dont go outside, musically speaking

>>126662142
>>126665316
My favorite crossover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nMuA2y0kyA

>>126704081
SOVL

>>126703815
My genre of choice is metal, but I also like progressive rock and hardcore, this shit is none of the three. This song sucked right away and it sucked a marathon of dick once the chorus hit. I gave it a full listen after initially quitting, and it did not redeem itself. It's mildly more complicated pop rock with ornate instrumentation and a metalcore breakdown as an obligatory "heavy" moment.
It is horrific that genre salad and odd grooves or time signatures alone are what pass for progressive in modern rock music. How You Remind Me is at least honest that it's pop rock.

>>126704304
Do you like any prog metal?

>>126702636
I like a lot of prog metal but I always thought BTBAM were really cheesy and trying too hard to sound eclectic

Almost as bad as 12 Foot Ninja

>>126698504
Magma is 100x times better live

>>126704304
To be hones they used to play pure metalcore at first, adding prog stuff bit by bit, but this track has basically no metalcore outside of that "breakdown". Plus they lost rhythm guitarist recently due to #MeTwo rape allegations, and it's basically their first song without him. I don't like it, not only it sounds way too "pop", it's neither good prog nor good metalcore.
They peaked with Colors like two decades ago anyway. The Great Misdirect after it was good, but it already was feeling like the same thing again. Everything after it is them trying to repeat the craziness of Colors, and imo they fail miserably every time.
This is the best prog metalcore ever recorded, as far as such shitty thing as """prog metalcore""" goes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcAJSTJcP3o

>>126704391
Superior prog metalcore band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZqm1SGASg

>>126703815
>metalheads tend to only listen to metal
They listen to synthwave, goth rock and Depeche Mode too

>>126704344
Not much of it, but I like Psychotic Waltz, Disillusion, Confessor, Spiral Architect, Twisted into Form [band], some Fates Warning, late Death and Control Denied despite its flaws, and Liquid Tension Experiment if I just want instrumental wank. I have a certain tolerance for Dream Theater, but that usually doesn't go beyond certain songs or a new album that just came out.
Extreme metal genres are not only heavier, but often more progressive than the shallow ornateness of a lot of bands calling themselves prog (not that metal hasn't suffered its own stagnation and popification). The structure and progression of the song is more important to being progressive than the sum difficulty of what the musicians are playing.

>>126692644
>>126696590
why weren't there more female prog singers during the genre's heyday :(

>>126704601
What about extreme prog metal?

>>126657381
>Man what happened
no more Blakkheim

>>126669276
Tobias Sammet in shambles

I don't miss that onslaught of Opeth clones appearing and disappearing every single year but this one always stood out to me (and not just because of the meme album cover)

>>126704984
Name?

>>126705014
Ørkenkjøtt

>>126697083
I'm going to kill you if I don't like it.

Who is the Steve Wilson of prog?

Does anyone actually read this

>>126706018
Online? Maybe. Whoever the hell reads the physical version, I have no idea.

Acknowledge Kansas

>>126706089
ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwRdhyit_yU&list=RDSwRdhyit_yU&start_radio=1&ab_channel=panosc2

>>126704081
Fripp could never

>>126704601
>Disillusion
love these guys

>>126706105
...make something that bad

did everyone die?

>>126709112
i fell asleep listening to steven wilson

>>126706018
Boomers

>>126706089
I prefer Nebraska

The Ocean vocalist is leaving the band

>>126704601
+2 for spiral architect

>>126710689
My favorite Black Sabbath song

Bros...

>>126700461
Unironically good, fight me

>>126703692
Crazy how Peter Sinfield is both responsible for the best King Crimson lyrics and also for whatever the fuck this is

>>126711098
>t. Putin apologist

>Poppa Dave's AMAZING King Crimson Vinyl Record Collection!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uSHl941Wbk
>"why do you have so many king crimson albums?"
>"I dont know"
this boomer has a great KC collection

>>126713617
>red, this is a good album
based

Holy shit

>>126710087
Filtered

>>126711419
name one thing Putin did wrong.

>>126706018
YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK MEAN!

Acknowledge Rush, you faggot ass boomers
https://youtu.be/1eSlvoO3Vw8

>>126716227
Reminder that Dennis wrote the best songs for the album but were left off the release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c3eRibwiCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5PwIFXrMM

>>126685256
holy shit I found another one
also the sign says Prog Club or something like that

so we're all in agreement it mogs the FUCK out of the og release, right?

What is the best post-Gabriel, post-Hackett Genesis album?

>>126717983
easy pick

Why don't you guys talk about modern prog like tesseract, polyphia, periphery or gojira

i don't mind boomer stuff like rush but there's more to the genre than that

>>126718710
>tesseract, polyphia, periphery or gojira
all GAY

>>126717618
Soundwise, I like it since the acoustic kit brings it more in line with Power To Believe

When it comes to the new drum parts themselves though I was kinda disappointed, there are parts where I feel Pats overplaying the drums, like during those softer bits in FraKctured, and I find it distracting

>>126694917
Caravan

Köhntarküs

>>126718011
holy based

you guys like Silesian folkish prog?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW-Wn7zJhLY&list=OLAK5uy_kQnINNViLpzmGrWKk1FdzhrObnQI4cVMA

Is this prog?

Fun prog fact: Greg Hawkes of The Cars received a co-writer credit for this prog masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbxZMOMAXRo

>>126720212
if it is prog, it is the first prog album ever

library music for the most part. after hocus pocus it's all bogus. didn't like Eruption.

>>126719495
Lol

>>126720474
filtered

>>126719495
First time I've saved an image from here in a while. /prog/ is finally beginning to heal

which band is the Shostakovich of prog?

listened to henry cow's studio albums today
really fucking underwhelming and boring at points

>>126721606
most avant-prog outside of Zeuhl is either bad Univers Zero clones or just bad Jazz.

>>126721590
that's Fripp

>best song on the album isn't on the album, two albums in a row
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJs82y2gURw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiNmGOCWOd4

>Steven Wilson Remix
no thanks

>Steven Wilson Remix
Yes thanks!

>>126721627
this, unfortunately

proggiest non prog?

>>126723600
>No chest
Yes thanks!

Light, the Melody Hunter is an independent experimental/alt rock artist, his voice and way of performing is unique you may not like it the first listening, here his music https://on.soundcloud.com/rQoKcLB0C7KLllX0A0

>>126719495
I miss Tarkus posting like you wouldn't believe

>>126725169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpF4kzGywwE

>>126723600
>>126725537
Bocchi is old news. GaruKurabros... rise
https://youtu.be/WAnbGgGoQG8

>removes Into the Frying Pan and Oyster Soup Kitchen
yknow, it ain't that bad..

>>126726627
>t. cant get jiggy with it
WOOOO!!!!

>>126726629
I enjoy it until that fucking piano solo. Shit sounds like https://youtu.be/mAuBvOnfOp8
My man Fripp was cooking and ended up burning down the entire kitchen.

>>126726828
It's a guitar

>>126718710
>three djentslop acts with various degrees of unproductive instrument flexing, and a proggy Pantera that heard a Morbid Angel album once
That is why.

>>126727237
you doing ironman bill?

>>126725537
flat chest is more prog

>>126729384
what genre is big bouncy booba?

>>126729684
I hate you insufferable faggots.

>>126718710
I saw Tesseract live a few months ago, they were ok

The only djent/proge band we like is VOLA

https://youtu.be/oDDfnJT3pxY?si=U2UpL-rtpTM5kL_h

Brutal mogging

Brutal progging

>>126730317
Man Phil really let himself go...

>>126655497 (OP)
>progressive
>still obsessed with bands from 100 years ago
HOLY SHIT ANON GIVE IT A REST!

>>126731154
Hilariously the bands were never progressive cause they were just repacking black music for a white audience. So it's kinda tracks that the genre is full of white rage filled children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGvuUOtHGkk

>>126731154
>>126731240
Regards

>>126723600
>>126725537
>>126729384
none of you deserve to live

I thought we agreed we're a Nijika general

>>126657381
>not a bird

>>126677448
isn't this a swans album

Everything except for Swans and K*ta are prog.

>>126717983
Invisible Touch is the groups undisputed masterpiece. Their previous work was too artsy, too intellectual.

>>126699953
i disagree with this. i think the later magma albums sound more conventional and accessible. attahk is a glorified fusion album barely prog or zeuhl

>>126699799
listen to the band zao from the 70s

>>126732040
kys

Once a woman like the sea I raged

>>126655864
Golden

>>126732040
live another day, climb a little higher

>>126730219
>>126732011
>>126732383
You still here?

>>126732498
*man

>>126733559
Once a woman like the man I raged

>>126733559
But there is in fact more woman than man

>>126732365
>reading comprehension
I wasn't saying they weren't conventional or accessible. I was saying that Magma's first two albums are the most similar to what other prog musicians were doing around that time. Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh, Kohntarkosz, Theus Hamtaahk, etc, went off the deep end to the point hardly anything in rock sounded like them.
Magma's first two albums weren't too different than what you could hear on a Frank Zappa album or a Soft Machine album.

Attahk was Magma's foray into a more accessible, pop direction by the way of disco/funk/soul but you're full of shit if you think anything else sounded like Last Seven Minutes or Lirik Necronomicus Kant.
Attahk was still prog.

"i will take a cyanide pill, one day, but not today" -Steven Wilson

"the soil, the soil, the soil, the soil" -Tony Banks

>>126734596
Please don't die, Steven
We love you!

>>126734596
>i will take a zionide pill

>>126734596
"And I'm not really sure if the pills I am taking are helping" -Steven Wilson

been listening a lot of jean luc ponty, his violin is so soothing

>>126734975
ok thats prog

>>126734596
why did i post this?

>>126735724
king kong with zappa is a pretty overlooked album, even if it's more zappa leading than ponty

>>126734596
which song is this from
i tried using google and now the feds think im suicidal

I've been jelqing a lot and listening to Greenslade

>>126737736
Bedside Manners Are Extra (the song) is one of the greatest prog songs of all time. As for jelqing, I'm not a fan, but one of my autistic schizo friends showed me a shitty grindcore band called Infectious Jelqing.

>>126737741
oh yeah i heard of em through dj smokey kek
is dj smokey prog

>we have Leprous at home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xArzjeL5TbE&t=2648s

>>126655497 (OP)
out of curiosity, do you progheads like post-rock at all?

>>126739419
does The Cure count?

>>126739419
sure

>>126740127
never really delved into the cure at all but a lot of post-rock can be identified as the guitar being used as a texture/soundscape ingredient rather than forward like a lot of other rock, prog included. if you can name anything like that out of them, then i guess.
i was more curious because theoretically there's some overlap between prog and post so i'm just asking.
>>126740147
oh cool. what's your picks from both prog and post?

>>126740153
The Cure have a lot of these but this is probably the most post rocky track i can think of the top of my head. whole Disintegration album is great
https://youtu.be/__EVr7CF3Hw?si=jlp03H8pIcM3NCbo

>>126669263
Yes it is

>>126669273
>pic related

>>126669276
Oh, no way. This is such good news.
Now that I know Ordevan de Nirdeslandleyu gave a medal to Zinjie Majestiet de Konink for the Grooten Magen Nid de Ordevan Megeneiderlands Wiwoog Heft bi Zin Bisloot Van on the 1st of April 25th of NR 2025000720 by Arjen Anthony at Leukassen and also Geboren te Hevilerissum 3rd of April 1960 from the place Benoemd Tat And that's why Ridder in de Ordevan de Nirdeslandleyu was signed with the decancellor from de Nenderland Orden Flegelheim.

>>126740526
Kek
All cleared up now though, so back to Danger Money for me!

>>126735724
the rite of strings album he did is very kino
>>126736975
also a great rec

>>126739419
only a little, i like the old post rock more like bark psychosis, talk talk and mark hollis. i enjoy the newer type a little bit, the one where every song needs to be 10-40 minutes and have the same pacing and the same structure, but it gets predictable and redundant.

How /prog/ is this crossover?

>>126730317
Genesis are joining the Freemasons?

>>126741924
>So, kid.... you wanna make it big in the prog scene?

>>126739419
Sometimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4U3SgNZlQ

Fresh bread when you're ready
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