How hard is it to become an orchestra conductor? It's my dream job

>>126732747 (OP)
pretty sure you need insider connections

>>126732747 (OP)
From what I can tell, very hard. They're like the smartest kid in the class - and the class is already a school full of smart kids. And he's the one staying after school too and doing all kinds of projects or setting up the student orchestras even then.

>>126732747 (OP)
you need to suck off the guy who can give you that job, unironically

>>126732747 (OP)
Really difficult. Becoming a conductor is a 5 year degree in most countries and requires a lot of musical knowledge, far superior to that you'd require of an average orchestral musician.

>>126732747 (OP)
It might be easier to become a crypto thousandaire and just hire an orchestra a few times.

harder than my cock in the morning

>>126732747 (OP)
You'd think with all that training the musicians who play this kind of music could do it without some sperg waving a little wand around.

>>126733633
apparently if they dont have him, they cant tell when to stop

>>126733633
>>126733642
>spend all your life mentally downloading music notation
>can sight read any piece of music without preparation
>but you need a wand waver to tell you when to stop

That is straight up bullshit.

>>126733642
>>126733743
I never knew that was the reason the wand waver was needed kek

>>126732747 (OP)
They should have a People's Orchestra that me and OP can conduct

>>126732747 (OP)
Pretty easy if you're willing to conduct to old people

>>126733766
>>126733743
>>126733642
There's a ALOT of instruments, tempo can get fucked

>>126732747 (OP)
Assuming you don't want to suck some guy off:
>Get at a PhD in music theory or composition and have at least a few papers published
>Learn piano in addition to your primary instrument. If piano is your primary instrument, learn violin instead

>>126735253
Isn’t that what the sheet music is for

>>126735253
Why not use a metronome?

>>126735538
Bit tough to harmonize 80 different musicians with sheet music alone

>>126733743
A conductor is basically a human metronome, but it is funny when you put it that way

>>126735554
Wouldn't it be cheaper and less silly to use a metronome than some autistic guy waving a gay wand around?

>>126735548
But if each individual follows their sheet music, the whole would come together

>>126735623
People aren't robots, anon. At an orchestra's scale, someone will go out of tempo without a guide.

>>126735651
>without a guide.
B--but the sheet music is the guide

If you're asking, on 4chan, it's probably not possible for you

>>126732747 (OP)
You need perfect pitch

>>126736608
this
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>>126732747 (OP)
You start by learning to play an orchestral instrument
Then you join a local Light Orchestra (you know the ones ran by the Rotary Club and play at the park)
Then you start getting gigs at studio house bands that do commercials and shit
Then you move on to the closest major municipal orchestra (LA Philharmonic et al)
Then you stick with it for 40 years and then you'll have a shot at conducting

it's really easy ive done it but decided i didnt like it i film porn now instead

>>126735562
That would sound soulless. Conductors bring the creativity to the performance and decide what articulations happen and when. Also which sections play louder and quieter. A conductor is absolutely neccesary for a unified sound and only a retarded rockist or idm tard would say otherwise

>>126738887
The sheet music tells you to forte or piano

>>126735253
>>126735651
But aren't there moments when the musicians never look at the conductor and are more focused on the sheet music?

>>126738887
That’s a lot of words just to say orchestra musicians can’t into dynamics. Us rock chads keep winning

>>126741736
You'd think with how autistic they are that this wouldn't be an issue

>>126732747 (OP)

Conductors are a liability to achieve perfect orchestral harmony, and musicians performing are also too unreliable. MIDI is the way. But composition also rely too much on repetitive mindless creation: AI will solve that and more.

>>126732747 (OP)
Make friends with a bunch of musicians and then invite them to play for your birthday party then walk in with a stick and start conducting.

>>126732747 (OP)
Nigga they are just waving a stick in the air, how hard it could be? What must be hard is finding a gig.

>>126741886
The moment AI "solves" that, is the moment music officially dies

>>126733633
The wand waver is doing more than waving a wand. By the time you see a performance, most of his job has been done (training the musicians on how to play their parts, things like tempo, dynamics, etc). They're basically like a coach.

god people are retarded in this thread, oh my god. when /mu/ tries to actually discuss music they fall flat on their face

>>126742279
>t. wand waver

If you put your heart into it anything is possible

>>126732747 (OP)
Very very hard to be a orchestra conductor if you have listen karajan classical music you know that what is takes to be a conductor