Sloped Shoulder edition

Can't stand the acoustics with the bitch cut. No good music ever uses those frets.

>>126825169
Agree

P bass with flats simple as

>>126825193
I wish epiphone did the newer V as the standard rather than the og one. I don't like it at all. Kinda gotten used to the shape, the high fret access is nice, but everything else doesn't look nice at all. That v plate is so tacky compared to the standard tom and tail piece. The best thing to go for would be the hammett epi v, though for that one I wish they didn't put the strap button at the tip of the horn.

Also why are they so lazy with the colors? Just black and purple? Could've had white at least as well if nothing else, it's the superior color anyway.

Did more scales today. Tried to some songs, chords still trouble me but im doing scales at 120 bpm now with little left over ringing. For some reason when I do scales, I can go note to note on guitar and have no trouble muting, but when I try these really simple songs I cant get my open strings to stop ringing without fumbling the song. Still a long way to go but I'm having fun.

>>126825143 (OP)
One more time:
Local pawn shop has a blues jr going for just above 400$ (instead of 650-800 like on listings) and I think it had a tube swap to those czech tubes.
Cop or not?
Rhett shills blues jr.s but for 50$ less I can get a new valvetronix vtx40 modeling amp

>>126825410
I was wary of squier due to growing up with them, I fiddle with some of the classic vibes at guitar center from time to time and I think I'm coming around.
Epiphone had a bigger glow up though, fuck those things used to suck.

I can’t stop thinking about downsizing. I’ve got multiple single coil guitars, multiple P90 guitars, and multiple humbucker guitars and all are solid bodies. I’m thinking about going down to a single humbucker guitar, one or maybe two P90 guitars, and then a Strat, a Tele, and one or maybe two short scale Fenders. None of the guitars I’m thinking of selling are ones I dislike, I have more than I can play.

>>126825441
I really like my JM because the neck is similar to the bass. Doesn't even feel like I'm changing instruments which makes the practice easier. Why dont you like squire?

>>126825432
offer them 300 cash they'll take it. the broke loser probably pawned it for 100 and was too strung out to get it back

>>126825441
Epiphones were good in the 1990's too, just muddy sounding pickups. The "Made in Korea" hype is all bullshit though, they were not really better than the current chinese ones. obviously one perk is they used rosewood though on even the cheapies because Obama hadn't won yet

RAWK

>>126825559
nice

>>126825514
Yeah I'll go back and check, I'm just praying none of the staff both to look up current ebay listings or else it's going to double in price by the time I go back.

>>126825479
They used to be really atrocious, practically everything was either premier or affinity tier. The newer CV line punches up and they have some good models fender hasn't touched for awhile. One guy I saw on yt said the starcaster cv was on par with the 1200$ fender tom delonge one minus the pickups being a little cheaper sounding

>>126825559
what does a mid-scooped guitar going into a mid-scooped amp sound like

>>126825577
Mid, ironically.

Flying V with a 25.5 scale please. Kiddie scale is just too loose!

>>126825559
>tweed cable with a tweed amp
thanks for doing this

>>126825605
Details matter

Paul Reed Smith - the Stradivarius of Electric Guitar

>>126825599
kiddie scale is 22 inches, the V is a big man instrument.

>>126825599
just get a baritone

>>126825194
>I think it had a tube swap to those Czech tubes
I wouldn't, those tubes might be spies. But I wouldn't get the valvetronix either.

>>126825143 (OP)

>>126825750
I know, I kid. Still, wouldn't mind it a little less loose.

>>126825794
I'd love to try a 26 inch scale actually. Just a little bit more tightness on 10-52s.

>Check out boomer prs review
>ultra-thinline carved body, so thin the pickup jack is a body bulge
>25 fret neck
>Last 4 frets scalloped?
>Fishman pickups but the battery can only be charged from a usb-c charger
>7k dollaridoos
Do dentist boomers really?

>>126825728
So you saying stradivarius is a poser brand only played by snobs?

>>126825923
You talking about the new herman li sig?

dfdfd

^ that's AI

ur AI

^ more AI (no schizo)

desert island pedal?

>>126825923
That sounds gay as fucking hell. Anyone who buys that guitar should be banished from society.

>>126826293
I'd like an apology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-UjB94LyYY

>>126825923
It's rare that every single "feature" on a guitar is actually a detriment. Total ass, buy a Tele.

>>126826327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ATioAMnVJ0
pretty sweet actually

https://voca.ro/17pqZ9a4R382

>shit's all over your dogshit fender and gibson

Geriatric boomers getting BTFO

>yeah but muh cowboy larp

hahahahaha NO

>>126826520
based and gay pilled

>>126826520
i think i saw some really gay youtube twink playing that

>>126825432
I own a blues jr the reverb is complete ass and unusable and I couldn't hear how bad it was in the guitar center. If you put the money back in my hand I'd have got a vibro champ, princeton, deluxe reverb, literally anything else.

>>126826373
Should be we lubing that input jack?

>>126826520
ibanez necks feel gross ew

https://voca.ro/1et6g83f1rIo

I win

>>126827101
That poster wasn't me bros...

miss you, baby

if i leave here tomorrow
will you still remember me

https://voca.ro/17l1oMkyR9zm

WHAT YOU MEAN I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD
I TALK TO HIM EVERY DAY
https://voca.ro/12hbZXdl5Xdu

https://voca.ro/1jrxRF34UIFd

>/ltacomvg/ - Listen To And Comment On My Vocaroo General. Thread Theme: No Words Just Listen Edition

>>126827340
what

>>126827309
he'll yeah brother

>>126827282
MUSTAINE REWLZ!!!!!!!!!!11!!!1!1!!!!!

>>126827270
HAHAHA BILLY EYELASH

How do you think a Strat with a red body but white headstock would look? I’m putting together a parts build and have an old red body and there’s a Fender neck for sale locally that’s a good deal but it’s white, like it belonged to a white guitar with a matching headstock. Red body plus white headstock?

no you isn't

>>126825476
yeah that sounds smarter
i have a bass, a dual humbucker guitar, a single bridge humbucker riff machine, a SSS guitar for now. i dont see much reason to own multiple guitars that does the same thing.

>>126825940
he is talking about the Cleo

>>126827387
could be nice if you got a white pickguard for it

>>126827387
>>126827464

>>126827479
I expected it to be worse. That's not bad

>>126827479
I like it. Right amount of unique.

>>126825169
I had one, but I sold it and got a D-18. I did use those frets though. kek

>>126827340

spazmaster

i've made 4 figures in music that's why i step up to the players line: it's for gigging pros like me

>>126827629
This but unironically. That's what they're good for. As long as they're set up well.

>>126826704
bro blues jrs are based. just get a reverb pedal

>>126827629
Making money in music makes you by definition a musician. Being a 'professional' musician means you make the entirety of your income playing music. I'm not saying anything about you as an individual, but we have to stick with the King's proper English here.

Why no purple guitars?

>>126827893
gotta be black for that

>>126827893

>>126827914

>>126827914
i wanted that one just because its purple but decided against it because of the shitty ass tremolo system

>>126827387
>>126827479

>>126827479
Gee Bill how come your mom let's you have TWO nuts?

>>126827893
Fernandes is kill since a year ago, but it's one of their last models, so you probably still can find one relatively easy.

>>126827962
feminism has not ruined my country yet
but the moment we allow women to drive it will be over la samah allah

>>126827387
>How do you think a Strat with a red body but white headstock would look?
I think it would look bad. The colour combo is aesthetically lacking. Think of a Canadian flag. It would look like that.
>Red body plus white headstock?
No. Red+red or white+white.

>>126827920
Fine, here's a $4k ESP Strat instead.
ESP offers purple/violet color options for quite a lot of their models, but mostly for flamed maple/buckeye burl tops for some reason.

>>126828064

>>126828071

>>126828064
Thanks, Anon. Have you a Squier? I didn't mean to offend. I just don't like poplar or basswood.

Wow! Everyone is seein' this!

>>126828096

Fuck it. I'm going to .09s
What are you going to do about it? huh?!

>>126828064

>>126828086
My one and only guitar so far is a Jewbson SG.

>string gauges are a meme now

>>126828130
>SG
mahogany is nice.

>>126828130
How does one achieve this paint job?

playing my strat right now.and ive come to the conclusion its a percussive rhythm guitar over any other style.
rNb funk, soul, these are the strats best genres

>>126828145
sandblasting

the last time i was a guitar center, i saw steve vai walk in, ask to test a guitar and amp, and as the people were clamoring to get everything set up for him, he looked at me with a smirk and started to play smoke on the water

>>126828145
vinegar/acetate

>>126828150
7 guitars and 0 talent

>>126828183
there's also a synth

is he right?

https://youtu.be/IQCdzomDN48

>>126828150
You ruined that Gibson with that sticker you know.

https://voca.ro/1kvoqFuYl9dQ

>>126828183
im still better than you tho
>>126828201
wait till i put the decal on it

>>126828230
this sounds like trent reznor

>>126828201
its just a special, basically worthless

>>126828236
I was getting more of a Neil Young vibe.

>>126828135
Take the tuners off and you could fit that in your pocket. Pocket Gibson.

>>126828246
I think it was the Andertons tour of the Gibson factory where the host gave the guest a black Gibson faceplate from the assembly line as a souvenir. I always thought that would have been cool as fuck to have on the shelf of cool stuff.

More of a Dean through a Peavey guy myself.

Watch this

>>126828150
You can play anything on a Strat or Tele or JM. It's just the hum and lack of quietness that makes it less preferable for that tight, pristine hard rock and metal sound. But that in itself can be badass. Think of Hendrix' noisyness. And Blackmore and early Page, of course. The noisyness was great. There's still a single note clarity amidst that..and then if you're switch to clean parts, it does all that perfectly too.

Well?
Didn't think so.

>>126828280
noisiness*
I'm a retard. Lemme finish my coffee.

>>126828268
Peaney

>>126828285
>>126828280
i find the plucky percussiveness when you mute and play staccato on the strat suits it well for funk rhythm. thats probably why cory wong uses one. however you can play pretty much anything on it. i think it really shines for funk rhythm guitar tho

>>126828193
I'd rather buy the cheap copy than those affinity

>>126828145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhvimD7aE6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8okWuVDQ0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCH0sAczZEA

>>126828294
It definitely shines at that, but everything else they can do needs some love. I get a bit tired of seeing Fender demos especially and it's just blues or funk.
I've mentioned them before, but Baroness gives a masterclass in how to get the most from single coils in some harder stuff. And do all the clean and atmospheric stuff too. Can be beautiful or nasty (just not tight and pristine HB sounds).
https://youtu.be/MMt1-M5YdIg?list=RDMMt1-M5YdIg

>>126828393
Oops, didn't link the timestamp with the Strat:

https://youtu.be/MMt1-M5YdIg?t=30

>>126828399
Motherfucker. It didn't work. Oh well.

>wasting your limited time on earth spamming a Chinese cartoon website for LGBT people 24x7

Grim!

>>126829319

>>126828193
the numbers aren't right but yeah diminishing returns are a thing. once you get to $2k it becomes very blatant.

>Creates the most boring youtube gear show in your path

>>126829486
How are they still pumping out videos? I havent thought about these dudes in years

When boomers didn't have youtube do you think they went to guitarcenter (or whatever guitar stores they had back then) looking at the stuff every day

>>126829525
oops not sure why I uploaded that

>>126828193
>jizz bass
I’ve had all of the models on that list except a precision bass and never had a level 1. he’s close but not really. the squier classic vibe line is the only thing you should be buying besides the American vintage II or equivalent. I had the Vintera and while ok the neck wasn’t good enough quality wood and the truss rod system wouldn’t handle heavy gauge strings. truss rod was maxed out and still had too much relief. everything about an American vintage reissue series is just perfect. frets don’t need touched, neck is arrow straight, pickups and electronic feels smooth and sound great, even the adjustment screws in the pickups and bridge and pickguard screws are just executed perfectly. especially on a cheap strat you’ll get screws that are stripped out, pickups that won’t adjust far enough, neck needs shimmed, or that one bottom left screw on the pickguard split that tiny little piece of wood around the output jack. everything on the American vintage series is twice as good as the classic vibe at least so maybe their dollar value is only half as good since they’re almost 4x as expensive. bottom line get squier classic vibe or American vintage

Are sterling basses any good? How do they compare to music man

>>126829592
they’re very good. sterling gives you plain roasted necks for a low price point and they feel great. there is a problem with the ray4s though, when I played one it seemed like the pickup output was pretty weak compared to the more expensive ray34. it didn’t have that level of gritty drive you expect from a stingray. if you have to get a ray4 definitely try it first before you purchase

>>126829557
I'm pretty happy with an Fender American Original. It's not a Vintage, but more like Vintage inspired with some modern specs (9.5 radius). They already discontinued it, but it was a cool idea. They took bits and pieces from 50s or 60s decades rather than specific years, kind of like Gibson does. The pups are from the American AV 65 model, which are great. A lot more mid heavy than many Strat pups.

>>126829614
yeah when I meant vintage reissue I meant the original, vintage II etc line. not the custom shop specific year reissues. custom shop vs original etc is probably the lowest quality jump (diminishing returns). I think the original is my favorite also. I don’t like the pickups in the vintage II as much

https://voca.ro/1fzAnlNBGkiz

I finally have time and space to record while i house sit. wanna make a cool album but im just getting warmed up

learned how to use the vocoder on my synthesizer today. fuck the haters who say i have no talent
https://vocaroo.com/19JXhkWYs91M

>>126829804
that fuzz guitar tone is actually pretty sick

>>126829955
>EGITANA
Close but not a guitar!

>>126825410
Studying C pentatonic maj today and doing some ear training, got the 1st position down, and most of the 5th. After years of learning metal songs it's time for theory and the most important scales. The only scale I know is the G# Hungarian minor, but if I want to play anything, with any particular feel I need to know 10 ~ 15 scales by heart. Hungarian scales are pretty exotic, dark and ominous, without being sad.

https://youtu.be/OF6Ji7S8VYQ

>>126829964
i focus on more than just guitar nowadays. being super good at guitar is literally mostly a waste of time. just be competent enough to do most things. focus on writing and composing music instead and production. it will work much better

>>126829983
>Hungarian scales are pretty exotic, dark and ominous, without being sad.

you can get by with 3-5 scales. these hungarian scales you're learning are nonsense, and a waste of time largely. learn whats practical above all else.
also knowing how to play a scale doesnt mean you can play to any song. You need to know phrasing and musical vocabulary for the genre

>>126829983
https://youtu.be/3ddYmJLrPGU?t=329
I haven't been able to find a lot of music written in Hungarian Minor, classical or otherwise. It's featured in a few Cannibal Corpse songs but that's about it.

>>126830004
>phrasing
Sure. It's not nonsense because I love the sound and atmosphere it creates when I play it. Even though I'm an amateur I wrote a ~5min waltz piece to it, but this is just the intro.

>>126830042
that scale you'll hardly use most of the time. i try to only learn things ill use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie50JSjIBY4

>go to record something
>can't figure out what to do for drums
>can't figure out what to do other than chug on some power chords
>give up and close Ableton
>this has been going on for a decade
I'm not happy

>>126830100
where the fuck do you live where you can make this much fucking noise?

>>126830106
what to do for drums is simple. kick on 1 and 3. snare on 2 and 4
lay down some chugged power chords
lay down a second rhythm part with full chords
then come up with lyrics and a vocal melody

>>126830113
im at my parents house right now. Normally I'm in my apartment.

>>126829963
thanks!

Analog bros is it actually over?

New line 6 stadium will accurately model every aspect of a tune amplifier from the individual tubes down to the circuit boards, capacitors, signal chains etc. new line 6 proxy capturing software will accurately capture every pedal down to the exact wiring. It will capture and model pickups, pots, wiring schematics, etc. you will be able to play in any tuning on any guitar ever made with any pickup, amp and effects combination you could ever want and change it multiple times throughout a song. It’ll even automatically change presets and trigger effects / channels for you automatically while you play now. More info is still coming out but this seems like this will revolutionize live gigging. One guitar, one modeler. Won’t even have to change your pickup selector yourself much less stomp a pedal ever again.

>>126828393
idk why they have to be so pretentious about down tuned melodic rock.

>>126828135
>tries 12 gauge once

>>126828135
>his $7000 shitplank's headstock broke off cause Gibson retards refuse to accept them fixing the design cause it's not """authentic"""
LOL
Didnt they fix it on the Epiphones?

>>126830419
yes if you just want to be a cover artist or have choice paralysis. I don’t even use pedals and just plug straight into an amp. as pretentious as it sounds I want my tone to come from how I’m playing the instrument

>>126830466
Anon nobody actually hears your amp
They're hearing the amp going through the PA

>>126830476
>implying I play anything more than church gigs with shitty PA systems
I appreciate the compliment

>>126830419
and you still wont practice

>>126830419
real vintage amps sound way better you'd know this if you'd ever actually played one

>>126830419
The coming storm of ai analog digital modeling is awe inspiring. Think of sounding exactly like Tim Henson one second then flawlessly transitioning to a Buckethead and Shawn Lane call and response solo except all of it is just you! Line 6 really captures the SOUL of the amps they model while providing musicians the tools they need to bring that mojo to the audience. With an additional subscription service, these will automatically update and make sure you're always on the cutting edge of tone. If you're a certifiable guitarist, the only prescription is line 6 stadium.

>>126827935
Now I DON'T like it.

>>126830739
>>126830466
This new helix accurately models the artifacts and feel of the real tube amps. It’s supposed to be indiscernible. There’s now a dial to make it sound more studio in quality like the older modelers. But it’s supposed to be exactly like having a real tube amp in a room with you. Even if you don’t use effects does it really make sense to buy a tube amp when you could buy this for 2000 retail and have let’s say a 250,000 dollar vintage dumble replicated precisely? And any other amp you could ever want? You could play an ac30 one day and a black face twin the next. If it really does sound just as good (I’ve heard it does) then there’s no point to owning a tube amp.

>>126830464
>Didnt they fix it on the Epiphones?
They did not.

>>126830786
it's not indiscernible. it might be 'exactly like it' if you're retarded and gay but i'm not so i would never use it. real tube amp is a joy to play that shit would be lame. you fell for it because you're an idiot so you're probably just better off honestly because it's not like you're going to make any good music anyway

Why is a Line 6 PR firm shitting up this dead general?

>>126830776
Line 6 has never charged for updates and never will. It’s a Yamaha brand. They will have individual component upgrades in the future as technology advances. It will be modular. I understand that vintage guys are going to be upset but that’s technology. It will only get better.

>>126830815
Retard. This is brand new technology that blows every other modeler off the face of the earth. It’s not even going to be released until first quarter 2026. I’ve played on many real tube amps and many modelers. The only thing I’m worried about is if they’re going to offer a powerful enough frfr to go with it so I can still get a wall of sound on stage if I feel like it.

>>126830419
Im only interested in sounding like myself thanks

>>126830815
The only real difference RIGHT NOW between modelers and analog is that they’re not modeling Individual components and artifacts / imperfections that make it sound unique and analog. This is going to do that. So in theory if it’s done properly it should sound and feel exactly like the real thing. There’s nothing special about a tube or analog circuitry, it’s just that digital is often too perfect and doesn’t fully replicate the intricacies of analog equipment yet.

>>126830425
Are they pretentious? I haven't read any interviews or even remember the lyrics. But they sound good.

>>126830786
I appreciate the product I’m just personally not a tone chaser.

>>126830675
hey cool it with the persnal attacks man

>>126830970
that's not the only difference at all. you don't understand what a 'model' is and what electronic components actually do. it's a vague approximation and it doesn't have the soul, but it might fool a soulless shmuck like yourself.

>tube amps are absolutely DONE bro
>they've perfected it this time I swear
>just 2 more weeks

I think digital sounds pretty good, but I've ranted already about Planned Obsolescence. Eventually digital becomes outdated and unsupported..and there are zero techs who can fix them either. This isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're just buying a simpler multi-effects unit or pedal. But highly questionable when they ask you to shell out $1000 (and probably much more if you're getting an FRFR cab). The cab has a lot more longevity in it than the unit though. I doubt they'll be drastically different 5-10 years from now. But high end modelers will.

>>126827893

>>126830464
Epiphones neck angle isn't as drastic as Chibsons.

>>126830859
Yamaha is great.

Modular isn't a selling point for me. I look at Synergy, 80s seymour duncan. Buy the amp then buy a bunch of modules too! Uh oh it broke. Remember when pedals used to do some of this? Remember profiling modelers? Remember Mesa mark XXV with 6 onboard channels including active, passive, and reactive eqs? Is it really that bad to just take an amp and play it?

>>126828150
Dogshit couch of shame
>>126828064
Kino of the highest magnitude

The only problem with strats is that they sound like strats but still better than a Fender.

>>126830984
You have to be just a little bit to even get a band tight in those song structures. Their eps and Red album are epics. They're awkward to enjoy because metalheads can't into the sing-songy-ness and normies are turned off by anything that's not 4/4 let alone changing meter.

Baizley's art is hard to assess too because it seems like it relies heavily on rotoscope or similar tracing process.

>>126831093
That’s why the components are modular so they can be replaced without a technician and upgraded in the future. I’d rather buy a 2000 dollar modeler every 10 years than tubes and repair bills and backups and risk equipment going down when I need it most. If you really wanted to you could have a backup helix stage programmed exactly the same on an a/b and you could tour with that for a decade without ever having a problem that takes more than a minute to fix. But it’s also so much lighter and easier to travel with. Amps are cool but they’re such a pain in the ass to gig with and never sound the same in different venues. I guess if you’re a cuck that plays vintage amps in your basement or studio then that’s fine. Not for me.

Finally got around to sticking some brass compensated saddles on my Tele. Going from tweaking with a Mustang bridge and vibrato to a simple Tele bridge is such a breath fresh air

>>126828150
tone sectional sofa
wall art too minimal
collection is campy
lamp is weak
8/10 definitely not schizo

>>126830476
>he doesnt play half stacks to crowds of 12 people
ngmi

>>126831081

every multi-fx unit has never sounded all the way there, kinda shit you know, as the price tag gets higher that "kinda" turns into a "pretty", pretty shit

>>126830932
>this new thing is the best ever
>its not out yet but y-you'll see
okay

>>126831386
nigga tube amps don't just up and die apropos of nothing people gigged with them for decades tubes aren't that expensive you're just a retard

>>126831386
>equipment going down when I need it most
this can happen with modelers just as much as tubes.

>>126831376
Yeah, I got into them years ago with Red and Blue.. then totally ignored them for like 10 years. Original lead guitarist used a Les Paul, but Gina Gleason is almost always with a Tele these days. Kinda blew my mind. Baizley uses a Ric with P90s or a Strat a lot.

Got two pedals when I went to trade in the bass synth pedal. Can't hook them up yet. Need to order a 2nd pedalboard from amazon

>>126831759
What is the goblin mage?

>>126831081
unironically this, but with the Stomp. tubes are oldfag and enthusiast gear at this point.

>>126831602
Are you actually retarded? Most bands have to tour with at least 2 backup tube heads because of how often they go down. They have to rent amps in different continents or leave shit there because of how expensive it is to ship them. They are highly susceptible to damage during shipping and touring. And then nothing you borrow or lease is going to sound the same as your home rig.

>>126829486
Both are fags

>>126831890
>enthusiast
There's more pedals and interest in them than anytime in history. "Oldfag" is practically nothing. We didn't have shit back in the day. You were lucky to have a Rat and a Boss Chorus and a Wah pedal.
There's probably a little girl out there with a pedal review youtube channel. I don't even have to google it. I just know it exists. Everyone loves pedals.

>>126830419
>line 6
Poverty gear

>>126831848
Made by Dogman Devices
It's a fuzz

is there a little girl out there with Red™ pickups?

>>126831964
I thought the Helix was supposed to be second best or something (after AxeFX). I don't know shit about that stuff.

>>126831933
NTA but the whole reliability thing is overblown. Yes a band that can afford to bring backups will do so, but that doesn't mean things are going wrong. In terms of portability and travel yeah a big amp sucks, no argument there. But modelers are more vulnerable to being stepped on, having things dropped on them, or bricked by a bad software update.

>>126831955
Yeah but you can get all that gear in one box now that sounds nearly identical. Oh you want a klon? The new line 6 editing tools will allow you to capture an actual klon and then build the real circuit and finely tweak every detail. People will be modeling specific features of every single electrical component in pedals and amplifiers. You will be able to build your own custom amplifier that does everything you could dream of digitally. It’s going to allow you to design the circuitry with computer aided drafting and use basically software models of components. Same with pickups, pots, input jacks, toggle switches, etc. You will be able to recreate the most minute details of any rig you could ever imagine playing. And I think they’re either bringing variax guitars back or they’re going to come out with variax pickups. My guess is that within the next couple of years, fender, Gibson, esp/ltd etc will all have variax licensed models for sale that will play exactly like their USA model guitars but have the variax electronics that allow it to produce literally any pickup sound you could ever want in any tuning with the push of a button. I’m sure they’ll have some models that are composite that are stronger to save weight, and minimize any climate related issues with setup. Because if your entire signal is digitally modeled, it doesn’t matter at all what your guitar is made out of as long as it’s setup well and plays comfortably. You’ll be able to stand there with one 5 pound composite guitar that never loses its tuning, and switch from a Martin 12 string for the intro to a 59 Les Paul with patent pending pafs for the verse and chorus, to a vintage broadcaster for the solo. How cool would that be? I mean yeah it’ll take the fun out of having different guitars and nobody’s forcing you to go all digital but it’ll be a godsend for gigging musicians that need to be able to show up somewhere in a Corolla and play for 3 hours.

>>126831933
nta but ive toured my entire life with a backup head and never needed it. I played shitbox block letter 5150's with their terrible pcb's for almost a decade and still never had an issue. i have loaned amps to bands that didnt have them but it was never because theirs went down, it was usually local bands not wanting to bring their entire backline.

>>126832154
It’s not really overblown. If you’ve ever had a tube amp you know how much they rattle and how easily you could shatter the tubes if you don’t have them in cases and you have to slam on the brakes or someone rear ends you or something. And because the tubes do wear out like any incandescent light bulb you have to constantly maintain and monitor them to make sure they’re in top shape. The most you have to do with a modeler is carry a spare, and if you’re out of the country touring you can just buy one retail and load your profile on it. Also they make plexiglass covers for the modelers which I highly recommend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6tZbtDyrI

>>126832172
Even if this is all true and not marketing bullshit... the fact that this is already causing so much hype that now Fractal guys are in cope mode (apparently) is proving my point earlier about Planned Obsolescence. It never ends. There's always the new thing around the corner to make your other digital gear obsolete. And it'll happen to this eventually too.
Best way to win is to just not play.

>>126832210
Sure but again we don’t know how your gear was transported. If you’ve ever toured yourself and babied it it’s one thing. It’s another when you have shit for brains roadies getting paid 12 bucks an hour loading your gear in a semi truck after a 14 hour day. Personally, I’ve never even broken a string playing live or had any kind of issue with anything and I’ve gigged hundreds of times with analog gear. But, like. The peace of mind that your tone will be there every time you plug in, not having to lug 100lbs of gear everywhere you go. Not having to worry about a single pedal or cable in your signal chain going down and fucking the entire operation up. Just being able to grab a backpack and guitar and have world class tones at your fingertips should not be understated. Maybe I’m just the type of guy that doesn’t like fussing with stuff or worrying about it. Like I’d never own a vintage car because I’d lose my fucking mind if something happened to it. I park my used Camry in the back of the parking lot because I don’t trust other people not to destroy it.

>>126832230
>It’s not really overblown
It is. Keeping spare sets of tubes and fuses on hand isn't a burden. Nor is lining a shelf/cabinet in the trailer with memory foam for amps to ride in if they dont have road cases. This is all very basic procedure for even the poorest of touring bands and you would know this if you had any experience with it.

>>126830776
>>126830786
>>126830859
>>126830970
>>126831386
>>126832172
>>126832230

fuck off and buy an ad, eric klein

>>126832254
I really don’t think it’s planned obsolescence. The last helix lasted a decade and is still perfectly fine to gig and tour with and will be for decades to come. Technological advancements are inevitable.. like you can’t say that a plexi is obsolete because the silver jubilee came out decades later. Even the pods and hd500’s still do what they did. If your argument is that technology gets better then yeah I mean your 10 year old computer isn’t going to be as good as one you bought today. Nor are cars that were built 10 years ago as good as the ones you can buy now. 2000 is a relatively small amount to invest in a high end modeler. It’s less than most tube heads alone.

I'm a solo touring guitarist and I travel across the country on my Honda Goldwing with nothing but my leather jacket, Epiphone Wildkat and Marshall MS2

>>126832307
honestly man it sounds like you've talked yourself into this being the way you approach rigs going forward, which is totally fine and i understand where you are coming from. creating anxiety inducing hypotheticals in your head over a patch cable going down or a tube dying, and using that as a reason to be disingenuous about tube amps is weird though. i rarely see people shit on modelers but i often see modeler stans jump through hoops just to justify what they like.

>>126832210
That type of guitar like that Carvin is the most versatile and reasonable guitars ever. Y'know like a Les Paul type but not the Les Paul

>>126832319
Ok. But you don’t have to carry spare fuses or tubes with a modeler, it takes up 90% less space, you don’t have to line your shelf or cabinet with memory foam. You don’t have 90lb 100 watt heads that can fall of the shelf and destroy your drummers kit. You can throw it in front of your feet in the car and never have to worry about it. I have experience touring. I would rather carry a padded backpack than ever move another tube amplifier again.

>>126832409
Meh. Carvins are ok. I ordered a custom shop double humbucker tele from them in 96 and it was alright but the pickups really sucked, were microphonic and had horrible feedback. I played my Kramers almost exclusively during that time period.

>>126831955
>We didn't have shit back in the day. You were lucky to have a Rat and a Boss Chorus and a Wah pedal.
I can only really speak for the 00s but we had what we needed back then. RV-3 was rock solid and while I can see the logic in upgrading to the 5 or 7 I can't say the same for those oversized and overpriced Strymon toys that do too much. I'd love a compact MFX that doesn't have 30+ drives and 10 different chorus types and just gave you the best of to work with.

>>126832400
>>126832400
>because the silver jubilee came out decades later.
They were injected with SOVL. Very distinctive character to both and sit side by side as current lines for Marshall to this day.
Digital by definition has no character of its own. Its inevitable that they disappear and get replaced. I don't know much about Line 6, but I know Fender has gone through a lot of cycles already. I remember when the Cyber-Twin came out. They made a huge deal about that. Now I see they're dirt cheap on Reverb. People can't get rid of them. After that was the G-DEC, which is practically forgotten. Was supposed to be the next big thing, but no one even remembers it. Then the Mustangs...which are like on the 4th iteration and probably 5 coming up. But they were meant as cheaper practice amps, so it's acceptable. The Tonemaster is supposed to be the next big thing. I think the single voiced amps probably have a chance of lasting awhile, but that Tonemaster Pro will become the Tonemaster II in no time.

>>126831759
Got a daisy chain to fix the issue

>>126831848
Fuzz sounds pretty cool mixed with the blues driver.

>>126832491
Not even close to the same thing. Helix products have backwards compatibility and have been supported free of charge for over a decade with hundreds of free updates. It’s more like comparing a ps4 to a ps5 pro. Yes things will advance, but they’ve never stopped supporting the older models and they’ve never done anything kikey to plan their obsolescence. The fender modelers suck by the way.

bros wtf. I just bought a fender standard p bass as a mod platform because I liked the specs and the setup is perfect out of the box. even the neck relief and pickup height. the pots even feel as good as my American vintage II. wtf is going on I’m scared

>>126832573
Fair enough.
In any case, I don't need one. I only care about a few amp sounds. And I'm not in one of those cover bands that autistically want to recreate the details of the originals. Nor do I have a studio and deal with many other musicians. I can see a modeler being useful and paying off for all of these situations.

>>126832491
The thing you don’t understand is that line 6 is owned by Yamaha. They’ve been doing digital stuff since the 90s. They own Roland who was doing digital stuff even before that. They’ve always been on the cutting edge of digital and solid state. It’s not even comparable to fender who pander to their brand loyalists with subpar products or neural who really doesn’t know what the fuck they’re doing or axe fx who make a good product but fail on the ease of operation and backwards compatibility. Yamaha as a company designs F1 cars and motogp bikes. They have some of the world’s best nippon engineers and know how to make good products.

>>126832409
its definitely my favorite guitar that i have owned. its an 81 and ive been looking for its twin since i bought it. one day.

>>126832667
I want to find my old tl60t is there a certain forum I should reach out to? It’s a blueburst with matching headstock and neck, Wilkinson tremolo, Wilkinson locking tuners, HH, with gold hardware. I could identify it by a couple of dents in the finish.

>>126832705
>is there a certain forum I should reach out to
i wish i knew. i quit being active on guitar forums when the original kramerforum went tits up. ive been searching for an old ESP i had years ago that im pretty sure was a M1 prototype and that was my first thought as well, forums, but i have no idea where to look. i just checked carvinmuseum and it wouldn't even load kek.

>>126832645
I don't think they own Roland. They're their own thing. I just mentioned Fender because I'm a little more familiar with them. My main criticism isn't Fender but the nature of upgrade cycles with digital stuff. It's in every kind of digital product. Especially post-2000s. I've lost interest in bringing it into my music world, as much as I can.

>gear flicker dropped a video recommending the gp200lt as part of the free plugins video
>i was able to sell mine off for a good price instantly
thank you based canadian hair man
the latency was horrid on it

>>126832869

>>126832879
kek

>>126832751
I might be mistaken. Although I think Korg / Yamaha / Roland operate in some kind of agreement where they license designs and products to each other.

>>126831401
Nice.

>>126832401
>not traveling on a yamaha bike, with a yamaha guitar, and with a yamaha amp

>>126833102
>yamaha bike
im not gay

>>126833224
Then a Yamaha ATV

>>126833253
i find your terms.. acceptable.

why are there three kinds of minor scale?

I applied for Yamaha Guitar Group.

>>126825410
>olympic white p-bass
>maple fretboard

>>126833303
looks sick

>>126833224
In terms of Japanese motorcycles it goes Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Suzuki. Not that there's anything wrong with a GSX-R, I owned one. But, they're the least reliable out of the 4 and offer the least variety.

>>126833322
counter point:
look at it
>>126833224

>>126833329
That's cool and all but they don't have cross-plane crankshafts like the R1. They don't have Honda's infallible reliability. They don't have Kawasaki's futuristic engineering. Don't get me wrong, I've owned bikes from all 4, but Suzuki is last in terms of quality and engineering. They're still cool bikes and I love riding them.

>>126833268
There are also Dorian, Phrygian, Dorian b2 and Overtone Minor. Also Locrian if you count that as minor (b5)

>>126832909
Roland also makes some cheap stuff where they rebrand little known Chinese brands as Roland. Some of the consumer keyboards.
Although they seem to be stopping that.

>>126833329
btw counter point
look at this

The zx-10r comes with ohlins steering damper, showa forks, brembo front brakes, looks dead sexy. I just noticed the suzuki has brembo's on the front as well. You know idk maybe motorcycle tech has advanced beyond when I stopped riding. My last motorcycle was a 2013 Triumph 675-R. And I owned and rode everything from GSX-R's to CBR's to 636 / ZX-10 / GSX-R 600/750/1000 and everything in between.

>>126833414
Yeah I'm not really sure what's going on in nipponland but it seems to me that they all work together to research and develop products then license it to each other. Maybe I'm living in a different timeline via mandela effect where roland was bought out by yamaha a decade ago because I could swear they did.. but after a ton of research apparently they didn't.

>>126833418
From what I remember Honda's were always ultra reliable, ultra durable, maybe not on the cutting edge of tech but everything they made would last. Then you had Kawasaki that was pushing the envelope but still reliable. Then Yamaha which was pushing the envelope even farther and was reliable but not comfortable to ride and kind of sucked to daily. Then you had GSX-R's which were really solid, but did nothing that well and broke down more often. You have to give them credit for coming out with the fuel injected models in the early 2000's but after that I just don't think they've done that much to stand out. I would be happy riding any of them btw just shit posting.

https://youtu.be/AGnEL-RLjDg

this bald faggot only ever do "buy this!" videos

>>126833538
no point being a negative nancy all the time

good morning i love p90s

>>126833538
There's always cuck retards trying to shill you shit in every industry bro. Ignore them.

>>126833597
true bro, but i think this guy is the most blatant shill in the youtube space.

I kinda wish my Strat was a clownburst. They look awesome. Has Fender ever reissued it?

>>126833616
It's a thing btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Mg2dt7F88

>>126833597
>slowly puts credit card away
o-ok senpai

i should get a clown burst just to shitpost

>>126833639
You'd be the envy of every true patrician.

guys let's just jam

>>126833651
I just finished.

>>126831933
nigger having a band means hauling equipment maybe don't be a gay faggot by the way i would never see a band where the faggot was playing into a fucking modeler lol

try out Mayer Pack | Slow dancing in the tonex library if you got it, shit sounds heavenly

I'm a bad man... I'm a problem.

less slow dancing more burning room please

I have come to the conclusion that I am not a Les Paul guy. I don’t care for individual volume and tone knobs. My Les Paul just sits there while my Revstar gets the attention.

>>126834821
That's understandable, a lot of people feel that way. Hell its even legal for you people to get married now.

>>126833616
how is this different from standard 3 tone burst

>>126835197

>>126825479
JMJM squiers are some of the best new cheapish fenders you can get. old MIJ squiers are solid as well.

>>126830419
You'll know it's over when the price of vintage amps/effects crash.

>>126835369
i can't play another man's signature guitar, especially if it's a dude that is not good at guitar

>>126835197
I ain’t gay I LOVE THA PUSSY AIGHT

>Try .63 tortex flows
>Perfect mix of floppiness and rigidity
>Can sweep or pick anything
>Tip wears off after 4 hours of playing
>Try the .73
>Not as stiff as an old tortex green, picks great, but too stiff for strumming how I like
Does anyone make decent durable, lighter gauge picks or should I go hunt for turtles in my local park.

Anyone got a good chord exercise video?

>>126834821
Not an LP guy either but mixing each volume in the middle position is great.

>>126830419
>Kills software modeling tones in their tracks

>>126835506
those who are in the know, know

red eared sliders works good, a yellow eared slider would be best though

>>126835423
Never, boomers will prop that market up forever

>>126829983
Check out scotty's absolutely understand guitar, it's all free on youtube. The course pdf helps, I printed out the mode sheets and like to practice them and xref with a fretboard notemap to understand how to jump between scale modes (major > lydian) or how one pattern can cover every note on the fretboard depending on position.
He also had a scale slide rule showing the steps and relations but you have to spend half an hour with an xacto knife cutting out the holes but it's been worth it so far.

>>126825432
Unless you plan to mod it, not worth 400 even with Russian tubes. Depending on the version it could also be a time bomb of problems. I've had two of the v2 models and both had issues out the ass. A better investment would be to prowl around for a used HRD v4 at maybe 100 bucks more. The Blues Jr is just a trap compared to something like the marshal DSL20 that actually can do everything

>>126835555

>>126835561
B-but rhett said it's the answer to everything anon...
No seriously I was doing some reading, everyone's chief complaints besides component issues is that the amp has to warm up and only sounds good past bedroom levels, but isn't enough to gig with unless the house has a really good mic'ing set up.

>>126835603
I owned two of the v2 models and they were terrible even with a speaker and tube swap. One literally exploded on me at a practice and forced me to jump to a peavey classic 30. I regret selling my Blues Delixe reissue though, that was a good modernish bassman type amp. The Jr to me felt like the worst aspects of the Hot Rod Ds sold to kids and cheap ass parents afraid of a little volume in the house.

>>126832431
NOBODY WANTS YOUR FUCKING MODELER!!!

>>126825432
You can buy a Katana or that 15w Harley Benton or Monoprice knockoff Laney instead. New even.

This is my condrum looking for a practice/potential gigging amp so far:
Vox valvetronix
>"IT'S NOT REAL TUBES (but sounds great)"
>No usb/headphone out, no app control
>Only the 40w sounds good

Boss katana mk3 50
>Affordable but heavy
>Push tones are modeled but still tinny compared to other amps

Boss katana mini x
>Decent, has app control
>Only runs off of usb rechargeable battery
>Tiny and can never gig with it, will have to spend another 500$ on something better later

Spark fullsize
>Tons of shit through the app
>You have to use the app
>Not really a great 30w amp

Yamaha THR
>Sounds great
>Easy to use, some computer control functionality
>Near field 10w dual speakers
>Can never gig with it

Blues jr.
>I am not a boomer
>Only sounds good at high volume, not enough to gig with
I really want to give up and just get a boss katana mini and hate myself for the next year at this point desu

N-UX
>Can't find in America
>Semi-decent
>Drum machine
>Still kind of sucks

Should I give up and get the desktop marshall tube thing that's barely 1watt at this point

>>126835705
get the 5150
fuck the haters

>>126835701
All sold out at regular stores and go for about 4-500$ on secondary market.
The 5w is about 180$ on amazon rn but has 2 of the 5 tubes on the 15 and some bad reviews because of it.

>>126835705
You're not gigging with any of those lol, especially not with a drummer

>>126835705
The answer is always Roland JC40 or Fender Deluxe Reverb, or JC120 Twin Reverb if you need bigger and louder.

>>126835741
They increased price but is in stock, https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=611815 it might be cheaper to ship HB version from Thomann

>>126835774
*JC120 or Twin Reverb

>>126835506
i use the .60 nylon dunlops

>>126835506
I got a fistful of cheap, disposable thin alice picks for acoustic strumming, then use ultex sharps for everything else which last forever

>>126835826
I used to like them but they're flaccid compared to the flows

i use these, but i sandpaper them to my liking with 400 grit sandpaper.. its retarded but its the best for me currently

>if you shift A major pattern one fret up it becomes Bb major
jfc it was always so simple

>>126835705
I'll probably get hate from people but a helix stomp is honestly your best bet. They've held up incredibly well. Can pirate/buy better IR's and use a FRFR speaker cabinet for home practice.

>>126836015
>Can pirate/buy better IR's and use a FRFR speaker cabinet for home practice.
I lowkey suspect this is what anon is actually shopping for here, which is obviously a Katana. Just plug the send pre-IR into PA input and monitor through your favorite speaker.

>>126835700
Tech 21 makes good SS analog modeling amps
scoop them up while you can. they stopped making em

>>126835793
jc120 rocks so does twin reverb

>>126835995
Are you joking or did you really not realize that

>>126827282
nice bass bub, you should raise your pickups though that tone is drowned as hell

>>126836066
This whole time I would instead mentally shift up/down strings, so A to D (G#->G) to G (C#->C) to C (F#->F) to F (B->Bb) to Bb (E->Eb). It finally connected.

>>126827309
yeah definitely the pups aren't close enough to your strings, you aren't driving the amp. nice riffin tho

>>126835995
it becomes A# dingus

Play bass guys, it's fun

>>126835705
>>126835774

>>126835793
>>126836063
why would you recommend an amp so fucking loud to him? you guys need to be more practical. and to suggest a twin is absurd.
most guys here arent playing gigs that would even require a twin let alone gigs at all

>>126836133
>>126836112
I never asked for tone tips, I recorded it like that as an artistic statement. Never critique my vocaroos again or I will find you. I've recorded in Denmark for christ sakes, I don't need advice from some fucking loser nobody from a mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>126836218
not everyone lives in their mothers basement/apartment.
I have 40 acres son, I could crank a wall of marshalls and my neighbor ain't hearin me

>>126836261
using that kind of amp as a practice amp is also retarded regardless of where you live. unless you are trying to jam with people. if you're by yourself with a half stack its kind of sad. those amps are for big gigs.

>>126836218
We don't know what kind of gig he does, if he only plays with a backing track then sure whatever, but if there's a live drummer then he needs a fucking loud amp to even hear himself

>>126836283
thats called playing with a shitty drummer who doesnt understand dynamics. a good drummer could play a small bar then play an arena

>>126836293
you can play the amp quieter you don't have to crank it lmao

never date a female bass player bros
her calloused fingers will work better than you every time

>>126836273
I play JC120 at home and it works, but I straight up would not recommend it. It's at 1.5 and only clean or crunch with timmy.

>>126836298
If you gig regularly you're going to get tired of hauling a huge fucking amp anyway. Blues jrs and princetons are where its at.
>>126836310
i want a jc120 for gigs myself man. beautiful amps

>>126836218
i simply don't give a fuck

>>126836273

not pictured the window this faces

>>126836322
>huge amp
>64 lbs
Bro, bags of concrete weigh more than that.
Its got a handle and if you're smart you have a cart.

>>126836293
>telling drummers to play quieter
lmfao good fucking luck with that

>>126836349
I have a '74 100w Superlead I bought in 2012 for about $600, I cannot use it anywhere.

>>126836228
>I've recorded in Denmark
Is this supposed to impress me? Raise those pickups.

even 40 watts is too fucking much, my marshall has 3 volumes
>barely hear it
>loud as fuck, louder than you can yell
>Shake all the windows in the house and get the cops called

>>126836489
The pickups are fine try turning up your speakers.

>>126836465
this is a '76 100w. cost me a lot more than that lol. i use it with my strat and bass which are both single coils and i don't even play that loud.

>>126836546
These kind of amps really benefit from rolling off the volume on your guitar, you can get some crazy dynamics with that much headroom to work with

>>126836546
also the cab is a 4x12 wired for 16 ohms so that might have something to do with it. most of the time the volume knobs are pretty close to the 8 o' clock position which is not too loud and still sounds very good. it starts to distort a little bit above that and it's still pretty comfortable to be in the same room as it but if i really want to crank it i go into the other room and play

when will Gibson release a Kirk Hammett signature melody maker based on his ESP spider?

>>126836218
>or JC120 Twin Reverb if you need bigger and louder
>if you need bigger and louder
Ok, if he doesn’t need bigger and louder then the first two I suggested were listed first for a reason hence the “x and x OR” and “if you need bigger and louder”.
Black Blues Anon not understanding conditional hypotheticals just like the breakfast question lmao

>>126836623
i find that most who wear glasses can't read for shit

>>126836623
>breakfast question
qrd

make a new thread and make it a good one

>>126836829
NO

>>126836829
>>126836865
>>126836875

>>126836784
https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-breakfast-question

Anyone seen the price of the Behringer Centaur clones now after the lawsuit? Fucking mental! I have one too. Got it for £60. Result! Sounds amazing, but if this continues it will be fucking sold as my other klon copy (Golden horsie) sounds good as well. What do you guys think will happen with this pedal in the long run?

>>126839884

>>126839884
>>126839892
buy the post lawsuit version, get some of this and rub the behringer logo off

then profit