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Welcome to /shugazi/, the comfiest general on /mu/. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of Shoegaze, Dream Pop, Noise Pop, Blackgaze and other sub-genres. Slowcore, Twee Pop and Ethereal Wave welcome as well. Come discuss your favorite albums/artists, explore new things and banter with your fellow shoegazers. As always, shilling collection playlist to spread the love:

https://open.spotify.com/user/comfydaddy/playlist/1HkipeBXaIwCyq8rYL7gio?si=W7OCyoaZT4-enI193IQVyw

>What are you guys currently listening to?
I'm listening to Difference Engine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_xae3KDx1Y

Infograph Charts/Genre Maps: https://imgur.com/a/ndMU0
>BEAUTIFUL NOISE (2014) early days shoegaze documentary (Cocteau Twins, JAMC, MBV, AR Kane, Ride, Slowdive, Medicine, Pale Saints, Chapterhouse, Lush, Seefeel, Curve, Swervedriver)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YlvmTp6-SwU
>DKFM Shoegaze Radio – over a decade of actively supporting the shoegaze scene.
https://decayfm.com/featured/about-2/
>When the Sun Hits
Good blog resource with underground interviews (sadly seems inactive since 2020, but still partnered with DKFM)
https://whenthesunhitsblog.blogspot.com/
>Archived Japanese Shoegaze dump
https://mega.nz/#F!hAcjBKiD!nshFvCA8bOxjA2vcl6Gulw
https://mega.nz/#F!RSonhBaA!j76a_0DuTphHRv22QmmVow
>CrushingDreams YT channel (backup) – many Korean/Japanese indie album full uploads
https://www.youtube.com/c/BlueNoizer
>Eastern European (RIP Asian) shoegaze YT channels. Tons of fully uploaded projects
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClvBbCbZpVolZHWqnLasVYA/featured
Link to least cringe, mostly on-topic anon discord: https://discord.gg/UMBkgys

>>126859882 (OP)
>International Dream Pop//Shoegaze YouTube Compilations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBAnse49Su4&list=PLfWkhCjby8slcQ0L7grx6D0PujNqRkTfa
>Light From a Dead Star – everything you could possibly want to know about Lush or Miki Berenyi
https://www.lightfromadeadstar.org/index.htm

best shoegaze album of the 2010s

>>126859896
yeah I'd probably agree, certainly top 5. Horsehead and blakenship are amazing. Cool album, gives me some siamese dream vibes. This is like if the Whirr/Nothing brand of shoegaze bands were way better.

>>126859896
>Blocks your path

>>126859896
nani?

once again shilling best shoegaze of the year so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDzLVfbscsM

>>126859882 (OP)
https://youtu.be/kcTXrHTLq7A
Good morning
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TZY_TtkXhjk
I HATE morning

>>126861655
Why do you guys always overate all Asian shoegaze. Most of it is just slop tier.

>>126859882 (OP)
stealth porn thread?

>>126859882 (OP)
>>126863340
Imma be honest: makeup makes women hotter and my dick harder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g5xbtr8SU0

HAIM’s new album has a shoegaze / dream pop song in it. I wasn’t expecting this at all.

https://youtu.be/S1Qlzz0-mcU

>>126862564
it's this mentality pretty much everywhere

>>126864111
I haven't listen to HAIM since their debut and that was pretty good. I'll look into this newer stuff

>>126863340
sex
>>126863362
the opposite is true

Which nugaze band is the best and why is it
<--------

>>126859882 (OP)
someone said in a recent thread that Delaware has a domestic and distinctly american feel to it and they were right.
Any others like this? I guess stuff from the Texan scene?

>>126866337
Well, I disagree.

>>126863340
it gets the people going - have to compete with the 10+ kpop goon threads

let's hear it for Moose. Yeah baby!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNYYy_spoUE

Bro, you should check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9YTSFZqCSXC7DZAye-d-XQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9YTSFZqCSXC7DZAye-d-XQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9YTSFZqCSXC7DZAye-d-XQ

They are pretty underrated. It's crazy they are not that popular.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwHrEhOLIJ0
>>126863362
fag

>>126859882 (OP)
left: sovl
right: less sovl but more sovl than tiktok/instagram filters

Nice.

>>126867755
>vinyls
cringe

>>126867755
>4 shoegaze albums

>>126866575
>you like features of women emphasized, you must be gay!!
Retarded faggot.

>>126859896
Nah.

>>126866364
not shoegaze but don't miss out on Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted

>>126859882 (OP)
>>126866383
left is so much cuter it's unreal

>>126859882 (OP)
Serena Maneesh anyone?

>>126872949
>Serena Maneesh
pretty alright, wish it was a bit more focused. Shame they seemed to disappear and never went past that 2nd album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_uwSI01Hc

Every shoegaze album has one really poppy song, one song that goes from happy pop to heavy guitar and one song completely out of place

For me, it's Nowhere by Ride

>>126873171
based

>>126859882 (OP)
How would you rate JAMC's stuff?
For me, it's:
>Psychocandy
>Barbed Wired Kisses
>Darklands
>Honey's Dead
>Automatic
>Stoned and Dethroned
>Munki
>whatever the fuck the soup album is called

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw3O4teWDgQ

Name a better shoegaze song made since. (Starting Over doesn't count)

>>126873226
https://youtu.be/vA1Ph6SpTkI?list=RDvA1Ph6SpTkI

>>126873615
Zoomers dont care about neither of those

>>126873085
yea, the few interviews i’ve seen with the lead dude sounds like his mind is all over the place. supposedly he’s touring with Brian Jonestown Massacre these days and has his own studio, but i’m wondering how good his income is considering there’s not a lot of money for niche artists in norway. a bit of a fun fact is that his younger brother is the current lead singer for Kvelertak.

>>126866383
>>126859882 (OP)
shoegaze side is way cuter both times

post more Baggy Shoegaze

>>126875737
Baggy?

>>126876100
Madchester alt dance

>>126859896
did you forget about MBV?

>>126875737
Blur - Leisure

>>126861655
>vocaloid
based

>>126875737
is Ride considered baggy? I could see going blank again a bit

Here's some old ones I like:

Doctor Head's World Tower - Flipper's Guitar (1991 - Japan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuz45D3cDL4

Happy Mondays - Pills, Thrills And Bellyaches (1990 - Manchester)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4V_5khp7ow

>>126873196
Darklands is always the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w9sCTtZ9EA

>>126859886
based chart, thank you.

2 for 2 for me so far (Grouper and Love Spirals Downward)
just wish it was easier to read

>>126866339
TAGABOW is better

>>126873196
Shit.
Cool aesthetic though.

>>126873973
If you believe this, you're not paying attention to the world around you.

>>126876100
Zoomie

I need more shoegaze that sounds particularly like this. https://youtu.be/FZn4Tf46c04?si=qhK3_XePcNYJFW9A

>>126877756
yeah they got the psychedelia + the dance rhythms. They were influenced by madchester and shoegaze wasn't even a thing yet

>>126878368
hey no gatekeeping big dawg

reminds me a little bit of 80s king crimson

>>126878846
what do you think of the old mix?
https://on.soundcloud.com/jKMKTBCxStGm9zTP2C

new giraffe. good, but their debut is still better
https://thegiraffetoldmeinmydream.bandcamp.com/album/velvet-distortion

>>126875737
Adorable has a baggy song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43815yqtQdQ

maybe also Neds Atomic Dustbin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUlD0_Ecjkw

also this Velocity Girl tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNWel2bx4pM

good thread

>>126873323
>find good band
>they're fucking dead
why is this always happening to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNo0jgi5ZGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6RjlcOLwyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vWO8y_zi_U

>>126879067
Sounds great too, thank you. I love this song, and whole ep for that matter, it’s so simple but evokes a special feeling I rarely get with other shoegaze i have listened.

I like Tallies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5RCWvkCivs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_ag2l1-PA

>>126875737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNfbcSBib64

>>126877967
they're traditional shoegaze than nu-gaze (AKA Deftones clones)

>>126875737
https://cratecr8.bandcamp.com/

>>126876161
oops, maybe close second then

ALL I SEE HERE IS YOU
ALL IT DOES IS REMIND ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le1SXY5tnLI

alternatives to pic rel? i love butterfly kisses.

July the 4th
https://youtu.be/IYzMbqYOnmI?si=yjl7At5bbWFwFBq8

new Slow Crush singles pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZyKKQRzrGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WWkCzzB3LU

>>126881361
the way The Depreciation Guild incorporates bitpop into their shoegaze truely is unique and I haven't seen irt really done since.

For songs that are a bit like Butterfly Kisses, maybe try:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsFa6isMD3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfMLPTXc3Vo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JapXsP_x2Ac

>>126859882 (OP)
new Greet Derath just dropped. Thoughts?
https://greetdeath.bandcamp.com/album/die-in-love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOi9ipB5yo0

is MBV's instagram still hacked?

>>126883283
I have read they are trannies

>>126883724
not hot

>>126866364
I think I said that in one of these threads some time ago, maybe others noticed it too
It's a very comfy album

>>126859882 (OP)
shoegaze version looks fun to hang out with and someone I could actually be friends with. dreampop looks like one of those uptight white bitches who think theyre a 10 catch steal and deserve the world handed to them on a silver platter for just existing.

post kino live performances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtZ__l8j_Q

>>126883724
>tattoos

ONE FUCKING JOB

>>126883724
Kek

>>126875737
Caroline loveglow
https://youtu.be/O7Z4Y9oh0SE?si=_-uB1-TpIf-s16_H

up

>>126883724
name?

>>126889080
Kevin post-transition.

>>126877935
here's another old ass chart for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN41XqUFXOs&app=desktop
you now remember sweet trip

>>126881361
All Natural Lemon and Lime Flavors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o40NUZDjxE

Anyone know any demo 'gazes that are relatively unknown? Just ran into this and honestly I think its better than the original
https://youtu.be/cZ6SJaRn23M?si=xStaxPQU2y7ayhqG

>>126890974
Dont be a wise-ass

>>126863340
I’ve seen her swallow semen

>>126893346
The demo of Don't Ask Why is good if you wanna get the full brunt of the noise throughout the entire song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnVda8yxCWg

>>126859896
holy shit based

underrated. do yourself a favor and get it on soulseek.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGCKSgu-reo

another great album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N1O9LAFMEU

>>126894597
What You've Done is one of the best things I've heard in my entire life

>>126866339
I've only listened to this ojne, but I'll check the duck one out

>>126891214
they released 2 of the best albums of the 00s, i will never forget them

why do dream pop trannies get filtered by loveless so much?

>>126897515
When I think of a demographic that wouldn't connect with loveless, trannies are at the very bottom of the list.

>>126897515
Why pick loveless as what they wouldn’t understand lmao? Maybe like very masculine choices like swervedriver or Bailter Space for 90s picks
Trans furries and Asians, sometimes both, are the backbone of nugaze desu. They make some solid stuff

>>126883724
Thought this was the ringo desthstarr lass at first

>>126873196
I agree with this
Honey's Dead is underrated especially, decent fusion of madchester and shoegaze

Swans is Shoegaze

>>126873196
I love both bubblegum pop and scottish heroin drone, so Psychocandy is naturally one of my favorites

It’s all so tiring. The dream pop reverb rock bands, korean shoegaze, blackgaze, nugaze, cheap HUM/deftones clones. Give me another siamese dream already

>>126898614
What’s your favorite swangaze?

>>126898614
its swanscore

>>126899650
You like Autolux?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0uGt1n3xERo&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD
God damn that was 14 years ago still

can't believe this got taken off streaming even though I don't stream music. now I can't tell people about it without seeming like a weirdo

>>126862564
Correct. I stopped taking shoegazer people seriously when they spam overrated the same Japgaze albums.
>>126866339
Yes, but it's not gaze any more than Deftones and that's why it is good.

Just wanted to say that the Julie full-length album sucks btw. But we all know why they are getting a major label push.

>>126861655
RYM Asians must be stopped

Thoughts on these guys?

https://youtu.be/0r8v8LKFO34?list=RD0r8v8LKFO34

IMO their sound wasn't that original or anything, but the main guy was pretty good at ripping stuff off and making some pretty decent catchy tunes.
Recently I've noticed that there are dozens of these Japanese dream pop/jangle pop bands that all sound almost identical to this.

>>126902958
one of the earliest shoegazer bands to come out of the US. Unfortunate they only relased that

>>126859882 (OP)
https://mintfield.bandcamp.com/album/sentimiento-mundial
solid Mexican shoegaze dream pop

>>126879799
kitty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAoSynsXq9c

>>126897515
contrarianism probably, that's why highly rated things are often dismissed by younger people

>>126876707
this is what I'm saying, vocaloid shoegaze is great, the mikgazer comp is great

loveless 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu5DOawI6Ro

>>126870881
this. makeup and filters were a mistake.

recs for ambient stuff?

>>126873171
Same

>>126908403
can't believe Stella Luna released a single 10/10 EP and then disappeared forever. You might enjoy some of Amp's stuff, especially Perception.
https://amptheband.bandcamp.com/album/perception-bliss-out-v-4

>>126908403
Glissceule - loveliescrushing
Foreign body - mirroring
Constance - southpacific
Rushing Ep - Lucy gooch

Any recs for something like the beginning of this? Just the beginning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lai6eriY3Bs
Maybe it doesn't even qualify as dream pop but I can't think of a better term for it and I'm struggling to find anything else like it.

Anymore like this? sort of Shoegaze-influenced Post-Rock (not everything on here's strictly Post-Rock but you know what I mean).

>>126859882 (OP)
Can this be considered dreampop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhLRIlFl_xE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXFPGDs4c8Y

>>126914394
meant to put picrel instead of Atlas Sounds

>>126866324
because >Place, Japan... is actually better?
It's especially better when you compare it to other highly populated nations. There are 16 nations with 100 million or more people, look at the 10 nations above Japan (China, India, USA, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Brazil, Bangladesh, and Mexico) or the 5 immediately below it (Philippines, Ethiopia, DR Congo, Egypt, Vietnam) and tell me which one you would rather live in than Japan?
Most of those nations are objective shitholes and the ones that aren't are slop nations without soul that still are probably bigger shitholes than Japan.
Japan is a place with soul and is simply superior to all but the most selective places - and those places certainly don't have anywhere close to 120 million people

>>126859882 (OP)
>Archived Japanese Shoegaze dump
it's EMPTY

what's the best bpm for shoegaze

>>126866473
nice

>>126916250
damn you're right, haven't clicked on them in ages. RIP last of the /shugazi/ mega dumps. Lasted nearly a decade

>>126916644
one might say that it's never been more over (until someone steps up and makes a new one)

>>126908403
I only know about this band because of sophie's floorboard

I like staring into the SUN.
https://youtu.be/veSKdnaR9lE?si=gN_OCrtGuJQkMv86

>>126914927
>>Can this be considered dreampop?
Yes and No. Sounds like russian jangle pop a close cousin of dream pop. I hear Chamelians, The Go Betweens and of course The Smiths. Not bad.

https://youtu.be/doGNyhWhyPI?si=JVt9_BxWHZvdDcPg

>>126877967
based. doug's old band jouska is rad too.

>>126916644
show-gaze

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUD55q_54PE
Happy 4th.
Also this band is too good. Not shoegaze, but great slow dream pop

>>126866364
This one gives me similar feels too

>>126916644
>You know what a shugazi is?

>>126866473
this is a supreme happy summer music. Always listen to Moose from mid-summer to autumn. Bouncy and warm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOayqNRJUrk

>>126914927
Not entirely sure, but certainly very dreamy jangle pop.
Like the opthjer guy said, check out the Chameleons!

>>126873171
Ride’s EPS FUCK. Better than the LPs for sure

>>126928528
Anyone who have heard this? It's Rachel Goswell and her husband's project

>>126859896
WEED?! DUDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Kideswfog

Bumpo

>>126929773
too metal

>>126917982
Auburn Lull’s Dual-Group EP split with Mahogany is great

>>126931866
wprd

>>126928528
What is the origin of this pic?

>>126866364
Difference Engine from the OP is great for that feel too. Good American suburban gaze

Never seen this before. Jonsi (sigur ros frontman) and Elizabeth Fraser linked up. Production by AG Cook/PC Music
https://youtu.be/vcveV3Ig_AU?feature=shared

>>126866544
"Somehow Hear" and "Bit and Little" are great off that EP

>>126861644
I see this as more psych pop but yeah this is damn good.

what's the difference between space rock and shoegaze?

>>126905687
Love this band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZIN3aSPJgE

Their most recent album from a couple years ago is perfect nighttime driving music

>>126939615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDtAZ3MHWrs
hell yeah brother, this is my fav one from that

>>126939514
the ammount of guitar noise

>>126939514
Space rock to me has more to do with prog than with shoegaze, no?

>>126939514
One looks up the other looks down

>>126918116
>>126939514
I think Shoegaze and Dreampop need a international police force or priesthood to define the boundaries of musical form. I am SO GOD DAMN TIRED of people trying to slip me albums like Ulrich Schnauss's "Strangely Isolated Place" like a pinky up my asshole and calling it dream pop. It's not fucking dream pop!!!! It's space disco.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9svsmx4XvM

>>126944648
shiet

>>126859886
for me, it's Amesoeurs

>>126905798
holy shit someone remember this band
Shame they disbanded real quick

>>126859882 (OP)
Shoegaze is gf material.

Dreampop is hooker.

*mogs modern shoegaze* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cfUyIAIfak

The best shoegaze band nobody knows about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEbhtKFEw9c

>>126950738
https://youtu.be/4FdvR6Zcpb8?list=RD4FdvR6Zcpb8

These early Ride gigs were incredible desu

Left is objectively hotter

>>126948370
lantlos is my favortie I'd say

Great 90s band from Sweden. Inspired by My Bloody Valentine. Essential listen if you like shoegaze with fantastic melodies, to be honest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Y9DfOnnC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbPaJjv3K7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnoAxqTZPnE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyKOHN3fpKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzecplbE9RU

>>126929773
lethargy swervedriver isn't really all that bad

>>126859896
Ovlov is life ovlov is love

>>126948370
Missing Sadness.

>>126954772
Moth rock is sick

>>126951388
dubstep-ass album cover, but solid. Has a good aquatic, watery atmosphere with the production

>invents shoegaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSPpbOGnFgk

>>126962825
that's not even rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t8DKe_WkOU