Thread 126868520

Biggest sell-out albums.

making your album sound better production-wise is selling out?

literally they were headed in this direction throughout their entire discography.

>>126868520 (OP)
This and Decemberunderground are both great
>>126868639
No one besides REM fans know anything off of this great album

>>126868952
still a sellout

another sellout but still good

>>126868520 (OP)
>it's the 1980s now we need SYNTHS

>>126869491
Do you have any idea how fucking hard it must be writing songs about radio towers? They need those synths.

>>126869435
i don't think you know what selling out means in the slightest

did an AFI fan fuck your hot-topic girlfriend or something?

>>126868520 (OP)
If it had been bad I would perhaps agree but the fact that it's still emotion-filled poetic music tells us that it was still an honest expression from them and thereby not a sell out (such as that of metallica, etc)

>>126868520 (OP)
Damn Crash Love looks different than I remember

>>126869917
Crash love was pretty good. I never checked it out for a while because Medicate was such an awful song that it turned me off from it.

Sing the Sorrow has such amazing opening and closing songs. Such a good album start to finish as well.

>>126869491
r u stupid?
there are synths on Moving Pictures - is THAT a sell-out album? lol

rush never sold out, get real

>>126868520 (OP)
This was one of my favorite albums as a teen

leaving song part 2 is still kino to this day

>>126868520 (OP)
They didn't sell out. This was just the natural progression after Jade Puget joined the band. That Black Sails, Art of Drowning, Sing the Sorrow run was incredible and they did some great stuff afterwards as well. Jade (and Davey) were too talented and creative to play only hardcore punk their entire lives. Sing the Sorrow was a big jump, mostly because they had the money and resources.

Davey and Jade revisited hardcore with XTRMST also and it was better than early AFI. They're a great duo.

>>126869473
they made this album with their own money after being dropped by their record label. literally the opposite of a sellout (it's still worse than Clarity though)

>>126870036
Crash Love is decent and has some pretty great B-Sides

>>126871092
>Davey and Jade revisited hardcore with XTRMST also and it was better than early AFI.
literally no one listens to the XTRMST record and Answer That and Shut Your Mouth still rule, so there goes that theory

>>126868520 (OP)
it's literally just The Art Of Drowning with a budget

>>126871163
I disagree!

>>126871189
just skimmed through it to refresh my memory, and it ranges from forgettable to probably better live. with the exception of Social Deathplay, which is a banger and should be longer

>>126871143
they made it with their own money with the intention of getting it back and being a very popular album, that is a sellout

leaving song pt. 2

I don't get this band it just sounds like a really really lame MCR

>>126871326
there was basically no precedent for such a move and was a complete leap of faith on their part. in fact it was an even riskier move because the new direction could've ended up alienating their fanbase, which was a genuine concern if you watch the doc they made about the making of the record. they took all of their savings to make that record without any studio interference and got lucky. there's tons of catchy music out there that doesn't blow up the way that record did. really ignorant take on you part

>>126871358
don't care
all of what you said is irrelevant

>>126871361
you do care, which is why you responded. also, ur gae

>>126871277
Maybe I'm just a Jade simp.

>>126871405
They knew what they were doing, the songs are poppier because they wanted a broader appeal, they had Sweetness and The Middle since Clarity days but held off releasing them on purpose, it's a sellout

>>126871497
I like jade song off of limewire

>>126871350
This board is full of fucking retards

>>126871699
yes, this underground emo band had this master plan to get dropped by their record label, self finance their next and possibly final album with all of the money they've ever made and banked it all on getting big when no one from their scene had ever done so. yes, that makes more sense then they just got lucky. bravo

>>126871776
Yes, Jim did it on purpose

>>126871699
Why do you care so much about "selling out"

>>126871350
first albums are the best

>>126871914
Yes, in the age of Korn and Limp Biscuit, The Middle was such a sure-fire hit. Even if you factor in the poppy-ness of a band like Blink, they did it with winking cynicism towards the mainstream. The Middle was pure earnestness and sincerity, something that was anti everything on the radio at the time. You're judging based on the outcome rather then factoring the actual environment that the album came out in. I'm guessing you didn't actually live through that era. Bleed American was a risky record

>>126871986
Bleed American fucking rules too

>>126868639
Nah, that would be Green.

>>126868520 (OP)
I win.

>>126868639
That's Green, unfortunately

>>126872777
They were po(o)p from the start. Pop stars can't be sell outs

>>126871986
>zoomer larping as a millennial
fucking grim

>>126873634
you didn't live through the 90s, zoom-zoom. just take the L

>>126873785
>zoomer continues larping
>is obvious to anyone over 30
grim

>>126874056
>butthurt zoom-zoom lashes out when his wikipedia knowledge of the 90s fails him

>>126872777
That was a calculated 'sellout', Cobain only wanted fame as a form of revenge on the normies, he actually didn't get to enjoy the wealth much

>>126872391
>>126872789
You are a retard

>>126871699
"Sweetness" and "The Middle" would have stuck out like sore thumbs on Clarity because they were such a huge leap in their pop sensibilities, it makes sense to save them for an album that was more centered around that new sound they were inevitably headed towards.

>>126876017
that retard doesn't know what he's talking about. Sweetness is the only song that could've potentially been on Clarity, but it was an earlier self produced version that they considered adding to later pressings of the album. Clarity had been shelved for so long by their label that by the time it finally got released they had already been demoing new material but other than the much older Sweetness none of the newer songs were ever considered for that album.

>>126876017
>>126876664
Not that other anon but have either of you read that book Sellout? It covers Jimmy Eat and their Clarity era. Very interesting stuff despite them being the most "boring" band in the book. They seem like a bunch of really nice guys who just so happened to make some of the most genre defining albums of all time.

>>126876705
yeah, Sellout is a really cool book. it definitely had a lot of cool stories around that early period of JEW's history. kinda wild that that first version of Digits is what got them signed to Capital

>>126869491
Subdivisions is their best song

>>126876733
I loved their portion of it. I literally knew nothing about them despit being a huge fan so it was eye opening. I respect the hell out of them and I'm glad they've had such great success. I wish the guy ejo wrote it would have focused on bands people actually have a shit about instead of cramming The Distillers in there

>>126876733
>kinda wild that that first version of Digits is what got them signed to Capital
Not really, that version is amazing and probably their best song

>>126876822
lol The Donnas were the worst part. i went and checked them out after reading the book, and my god they fucking suck
>>126876830
i just mean that of all songs to grab the attention of a major label, a song like Digits seems unlikely to me. but yes, the first version rules

>>126876822
Jesus Christ my fucking typos.
>>126876858
I completely forgot about The Donnas being in it kek

>>126876705
Yes, it's very good, though his thing of ending the chapter once they get signed to a major can be abrupt sometimes. I see it as a version of This Band Could Be Your Life but for millenials instead of Gen-Xers

>>126876858
they didn't really care at that time they were just desperate to find the next nirvana

>>126873629
i remember having to hear Use Somebody every single day on the radio when my mom would drop me off at school. I fucking despise that song and this band

>>126877310
I COULD REALLY USE SOMEBODDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEA

>>126868639
>not Out of Time

>>126868520 (OP)
I was so disappointed when they made their sound so mainstream on this album

>>126877310
something about them makes you wanna write them off like Nickelback or something but they're actually pretty decent

>>126874024
Still goes hard though

>>126878512
i don't know if you're being serious with this one but i genuinely thought the same when it first came out. the first album is still my favorite but AOF have been really consistent throughout their whole career

>>126878539
No I'm being serious. I still liked it but they really toned down the screaming.

>>126868520 (OP)
Puzzle by Biffy Clyro. One of the biggest examples of "band that made weird rock music signs to a major label and waters down their sound in order to get popular". In its defence it's actually quite good. However the albums that came after double down on all the worst parts of it and are subsequently trash.

>>126878634
>>126878682
The stories about the release of this album are funny. Fans freaking out and literally turning their backs on the band at shows. I think it's weaker than Bivouac and 24 Hour Revenge Therapy but I don't think it sounds particularly overproduced like others say

>>126873629
this is the one i thought of
they were a pretty cool band with a unique sound prior to that album
then it was whooooooooooooa sex on fiyaaaaaaaaaa and filling stadiums with generic radio rock

>>126878733
Their last album was actually pretty good and return to form
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdX1uSwEEcQ

>>126878830
Oh yeah I forgot their last two albums were solid. I liked that Empire State Bastard record too

>>126878733
Good post. Never seen Biffy mentioned here. I hated them for making Puzzle at first but grown to like it and I agree every album that came after that has been progressively worse, unfortunately.

>>126878852
Also one of their best songs was made for a soundtrack for a terrible movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9XR15E4vZw

Not sure why some hardcore bands thought to make metal all of a sudden

>>126878733
>>126878863
Living is a Problem is their best song

Also I checked and it looks like Vennart from Oceansize still plays with them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL4GK2p7wIk

>>126878932
For me, it’s 57. I remember seeing them on the Opposites tour and everyone gave me and my gf at the time strange looks because we were the only ones singing along to the older songs kek

>>126877310
WOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHH
WOOOOOOOOAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

>>126878431
>FOURTEEN SONGS OF CONSCIOUS INSANITY

>write a phoned-in speed metal song in an hour
>said song becomes your best known track and is imitated or covered by hundreds of bands
>reunite 12 years later to (finally) reap that song's success

>>126878589
yeah, i agree. but Accidents and No Transitory still rule

>>126878733
give me a qrd/place to start with Biffy Clyro? I only know them from the Frightened Rabbit tribute album that came out after Scott Hutchison died