Thread 126877327

Is there anything more delicious than AI replacing all these arrogant musicians? I love music but I hate that art Chad and Stacy get to live in NYC and have wild sex orgies because they play the same 3 chords as everyone else. We will all make beautiful songs now. The playing field has been leveled.

>>126877327 (OP)
you are also arrogant

Name a classic piece of art in any medium from the past fifteen years. Modern "artists" get everything they deserve.

>>126877327 (OP)
the dumbass celebrity lifestyle is pretty trivial next to what art used to mean to humanity though, is it even worth having sour grapes over
also will ai even replace that, people still want figurehead celeb types to connect with, what the total saturation of the world with aislop threatens is the possibility of ever standing out on musical merit

Manufactured pop may as well be AI generated.

The problem with AI is the same problem as with that music too, just taken a step further.
When people complain about radio pop being completely autotuned and lifeless and overly perfect, that's the same thing with AI. A huge amount of beauty in music comes from a person's limitations, and with AI the limitations are removed and that's bad for art.

To give an example, no one would ever generate an AI vocal to sound like Bob Dylan but we'd all be worse off if that vocal never existed.

>wishing all of art to be taken over by soulless mediocre slop because you seethe over successful attractive people
incel IQ strikes again

>>126877327 (OP)
That’s not gonna happen anytime soon; artists/celebs are too valuable for the elite to let go of.

>>126877581
Yes, the top 100-200 artists in the world will continue to be relevant. But there will be no real underground anymore. The "middle class" musician of 10k-1 million monthly listeners will be a thing of the past. In its place a sea of endless AI songs. Millions and millions of songs generated everyday, Spotify pushing them deliberately. Music as an art is dead.

>>126877341
Because I got told I was going to need to learn how to code

>>126877533
absolutely based.
/thread

>>126877327 (OP)
It's more sinister than that. Since the downfall of feudalism after WW1, they thought you "little people" needed a nobility still, so they gave you these retards.

>>126879264
at the very least you will still die a virgin

>>126877533
kek
it's not like celebrities and nepobabies will stop living lives of extravagance either

Even if most modern music is dogshit, the thought of ai making music and ai music being distributed disgusts me immensely. It's a travesty, it's lazy and it is only something someone who never created anything could even endorse.

>>126879902
It will be inescapable. All art will be generated at the click of a button

>>126880228
Maybe. I'll still be disgusted by it. And it's still only something a consumer could endorse. Anyone who has ever created anything, whether it be music or paintings or any work of art would be appalled by ai bullshit. Ai "art" is not art, it's just a piece of shit mimicking it.

Donald Trump singing Margaritaville AI cover
https://vocaroo.com/14lZI9vqaMYU

>>126877327 (OP)
My wifes thanksgiving stuffing with mushroom gravy, her cheesy garlic beans with a big hunk of sourdough, and biscoff cheesecake fuuuuuuuck

>>126880399
You're mad because you thought being a musician made you special. That AI only took this long to replace you shows how little time you've actually spent on musical craftsmanship.

>>126880706
Kino

>>126880706
>not YMCA
retard

>>126880981
To be fair, there is no level of mastery that ai cant replicate. From a machine learning perspective, there is nothing more complex about the most sophisticated symphonies and the shittiest punk rock band.

>>126880706
Based

>>126881000
>>126881155
>>126880706
You are not real people

>>126877424
Bladee

>>126881880
Based

ZE INCELS never got credit for writing songs ever!

ai means austin schumacher got all credit for song

>>126880981
Craftsmanship means nothing if technology can just make something to randomly generate anything

>>126880228
It might be similar to outdated things like orchestras and stuff they keyboards could eventually replicate in the 70s and 80s. Orchestras aren't totally dead but they're niche in comparison to using synths or keyboards or samples or production sounds

>>126877533
all the best art has already been made, who gives a fuck if robots create songs now

>drum machines get made that recreate the sound of drums without actually playing drums and no one cares
>digital synth plugins are made that recreate the sound of synths without actually playing synths and no one cares
>AI music is made that recreates the formula of a song with the correct chord changes and lyrics and whole skeleton of a song and NOW everyone cares

why these niggas cheerleading for chad

>>126881093
Mastery lmao this might sound meme as fuck but MASTER THE SOUL.

Ai has no soul faggot, sure you can recreate shit like polyphia

>>126883203
Single digit IQ take

>>126883071
dangerously low IQ post

>>126883203
Because someone was still programming in those instruments and making conscious decisions about how it would sound. Its not about losing jobs, its that this is permanently dissolving what makes things art.

>>126877327 (OP)
I think it's very optimistic to believe that people will be listening to music for much longer. Music will just sort of be there the way advertising or litter is.

>>126877327 (OP)
AI will never replace pop artists.
People love gossip and drama attached to their favorite artists.
AI can't replace that.

Feud between Katy Perry and Taylor Swift. Swift love life. Kendrick and Drake beef
Ai will never replace that and normies love that shit too damn much

I have something that might blow your guys minds -- you can have a song that has some of it generated by ai and some of it by a real person! Uh oh, how will I simplify and reduce that into a good/evil dichotomy now?!

>>126886502
Why would a person bother doing any manual labor on a song if a computer can do it all? Furthermore, why would major music conglomerates (Spotify, Apple Music, etc) not create endless in-house ai generated music with ZERO human involvement? This would save them from ever having to pay any royalties. It would turn them into a legitimately profitable business.
And like it or not, Spotify and the other major streaming services ARE music. That is how 99% of people listen to manic now. There is no infrastructure for an underground movement. And likely, there wont even be a market for it. The vast majority of people just want something that sounds good in the car on the way to work or while doing their school work. Gen alpha wont know anything but a world of generated art. The distinction to them will be meaningless.

>>126877327 (OP)
I think music has been completed as an art form and something else that’s new will end up being the dominant art form. Not sure what though. We’ve already had paintings, literature, film, etc.

>>126877327 (OP)
>Implying that there won't still be a human Chad or Stacy who will be the face of the brand, do live live shows lipsyncing and attend celeb events to promote AI slop.

>>126886464
Implying ai personas cant fabricate slop beef

>>126887477
I'd use an AI drum machine if it was realistic sounding to a real player. Programming drums is usually tedious.

Ok but how's AI ever gonna replicate the experience of seeing someone play music live? That's a big part of the appeal
>but muh virtual hologram concerts like Miku and Gorillaz
Those are novelty acts, most people aren't interested in that

>>126887686
This. Chad and Stacy always win, does not matter the system

>>126887582
Only if you're retarded would you ever think this. Music has simply degraded, it has not been completed in any meaningful way yet, nor will it ever

>>126889708
You have a sub 90iq if that is how you interpreted his post

>>126883203
>product developed by engineers
>product developed by engineers
>recycling toy developed by incompetent mental infants and works off of everyone else's material

>>126886464
>>126888804
AI won't replace performers, but it'll write and produce the music they perform.

>>126891264
But when you perform said music is it really even AI music anymore? I honestly think that's the worst part about AI music actually, is that you cannot experiment with it, it just steals what humans have already done and remixes it (garbage in garbage out) so whatever someone generates with AI is always just going to be existing genres and shit, so there's literally no point. You can't have an AI generate things that humans otherwise wouldn't be able to perform, that would be far more interesting imo.

>>126890766
The only sub 90iq is you, lmao

>>126891624
Cope retard. Tested 145+ twice.

>>126892232
I think you missed a period in that number, get glasses next time. You might get a better score

>>126892310
Great rebuttal where you fuck up basic syntax. You are genuinely so unimpressive.

>>126877327 (OP)
Still no sovl
someone give an argument for A.I having sovl please

>>126892912
giving a shit about syntax on here is a sign of low iq

>>126890766
>"I think music has been completed as an art form and something else that’s new will end up being the dominant art form. "
>I don't think it's completed as an art form
>"THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT"

>>126894985
He clearly means as a predominant cultural force. For example the same way sculpture is largely a completed art form. Sure, there are still modern sculptures being made, but nothing will even come close to approaching the acclaim or relevance of previous works in the medium.

AI music will undoubtedly be a thing

its already replaced
>shitty instrumental muzak genres like lo-fi and smooth jazz
>generic revivalism playlist filler (see that shitty chatgpt generated "velvet echoes" band or whatever)
>youtube algorithm recs (flooded with fake faux-retro shit)

the next step to get hipsters on board will be creating a consistent persona and backstory to pair with it that actually tries to cover it up unlike that velvet dogshit

>>126897181
The biggest hurdle will be live gigs. How will an AI music project handle that? Milli Vanilli style lip syncing? Some Steely Dan/Beatles "studio band" excuse?

Otherwise they'll get found out quickly.

>>126886502
except the type of people using AI to make their music probably have no real sense of taste so they wont curate the good parts and it'll still sound like ass

>>126897214
More arrogant musician bullshit LOL. Your entire identity of being special for having this magical "taste" will be shattered and you will be left with nothing

>>126877514
>with AI the limitations are removed
Bruh, just get the AI to emulate human limitations. How hard is that?
It's the one thing I never got about auto tune. They found add imperfections back in so that people can't tell it's auto tuned. Obviously such "human imperfections" are hard to emulate.

>>126877327 (OP)
Are you born with no arms or mangled fingers? Not sure why hate on musicians like this. You are very bitter. How did it even change your life to have no human made music? It didn't. Maybe you get some weird unearned satisfaction that no humans get to enjoy fame. Well I guess that is in some distantly enjoyable second place to get your own fame.

Which you could do if you actually had passion.

>>126887582
Probably virtual reality worlds. People will be famous for how creative or peculiar their worlds are and there will be an entire scene around them Action Movie World and there are some secret cats you can find they get memed or Drama World where you find a way to romance the female character and then change the story entirely. Just hidden surprises and gems everywhere. Too complex for AI to generate since its just system after system if anything is hallucinated then it gets ruined.

>>126898326
>Not sure why hate on musicians like this
People with no talent or creativity or inspiration do exist and they do tend to be bitter about seeing fulfilled people who contribute to the world and get to experience what having a soul is like rather than being completely expendables npc just moving through life leaving no mark on the world or other people and merely existing hoping a robot won't make them obsolete and homeless
Now there is a chance that artists can be brought down to their level and that must feel like payback time
See:
>>126879246
>I got told I was going to need to learn how to code

>>126898530
The dying cries of a craft thats become worthless. You people really think you are special, I appreciate that you dont even hide it. We'll see how much that "soul" you all magically seem to have matters in 3 years from now

>>126898326
I understand the impulse to lash out and seethe. Your monopoly is over now

>>126888804
>>126897197
Notice how there's no snarky reply for you, because AI-simping misanthropes like OP have zero rebuttal: their entire experience with music is indoors with headphones and they get too little human interaction to remember that people want it with their music

Seems like Chad and Stacy will still be playing the same 3 chords and having sex orgies in NYC...meanwhile OP will still be some incel complaining about them on 4chan LMAO. Nothing ever really happens

>>126901331
Live performances are downstream of internet success now, much like they were downstream of media coverage in the old times. Sure, there'll still be local cover bands, but live music will probably slowly become an archaic concept

>>126894482
Music is mathematical

>>126877341
fpbp. op exhibits all the traits he hates about artists

>>126891286
Eventually it will make otherworldly music we cant even imagine

>>126899223
I'm not a musician nor any kind of artist though, I am a mechanic. Still I do not seethe at creative people being successful and contributing something to the world more than wageslaving and appreciate the art they make and conversely have no interest in ai art which I find conceptually appalling
I don't have nearly enough livor in me to be lead to root for jeet slop over art

>>126877424
neet
negative XP
Fried by flouride

You know the same low IQ faggots and foids hating on AI in music will call it "iconic" the momment Taylor Swift or some other talentles cunt uses it.

>>126877424
Rich Gang: Tha Tour Pt. 1

>>126901953
not for the industry plants with enough promotional muscle to push them over the aislop noise floor, anyone trying to make it on their own on the strength of their music is even more fucked than before though

>>126905998
wouldn't that take a completely different working principle from the current ai proliferation of generating likely output based on the input it's trained on, chatgpt for sure isn't writing any genius shit humans couldn't imagine

>>126906263
have there been any signs of that so far?
even pretty major artists seem to have got uniformly negative responses including from their own fans, eg the alchemist x erykah badou collab and that was just for aislopping the video not (presumably) the entire song

>>126907059
They are forgoten milenial artists, same with timbland. artists zoomer listen to like the weeknd and plsyboy carti also used AI in their latest projects but not oficially.
Kanye is a pariah now but if not for his yetler phase I'm sure he would make AI mor acceptable.

>>126906252
Actually kinda based and true

>>126877327 (OP)
Do you have any examples of good AI music? Any examples of a cohesive album?
I'm not against the idea, I just haven’t come across anything worth a damn yet.

>>126877341
its a techbro mad that he was never accepted by the cool kids and is lashing out because he cant let high school/college go

>>126909825
Guaranteed you are some slackjawed beta faggot