Thread 126884207

Why is Sabotage so underrated in comparison to their classic era.
It's my favourite

>>126884207 (OP)
I think it's noticeable inferior to the previous albums but it's still good and has some very unique songs. The following albums is where they shat the bed.

>>126884207 (OP)
yeah i remember seeing the low rym score and expecting something horrible but it was alright with a few good songs

I think it's on par with the first five and better than anything since.

>>126884242
why do you think it's inferior? it took me more listens to appreciate it than the others but its easily my favourite

>Hole in the Sky
great opener. 7/10
>Don't Start
not worth rating but it's existence is important
>Symptom of the Universe
killer first half, okay second half but i get why it's there. 7/10
>Megalomania
great but should have been 2 minutes shorter. 7/10
>Thrill of it All
rocks. 6/10
>Supertzar
nice interlude. 6/10
>Am I Going Insane
garbage. 0/10
>The Writ
it's okay, a bit too long and tired sounding. 6/10

overall 6/10 album

>>126885385
>Hole in the Sky
Heavy rocking song with based lyrics and great riffs. 10/10
>Don't Start
not worth rating but it's existence is important
>Symptom of the Universe
proto thrash riffs and some of the the best performance bill ward ever did, tasty as fuck fills and then the second half is so funky and passionate. one of the greatest love songs ever written
10/10
>Megalomania
great use of build ups with the solo bass and the tony iommi deturning his guitar or whatever he does during the second part is brilliant and sounds like a helicopter flyign over the riff. Based lyrics about schiziophrenia and isolation. 10/10
>Thrill of it All
awesome riffs and some of geezers best lyrics ever.
10/10
>Supertzar
gorgeous and has tony really flexing his arrangement skills.
10/10
>Am I Going Insane
would have been better with the iommi playing the synth riff.
7.5/10
>The Writ
sabbaths angriest song, I love geezers lyrics, his hatred is so palpable and the riffs are mighty, one of sabbaths best and an important song on their catalog and one of their only songs that is directly about their experience in the exploitative 70s music industry.
10/10

overall 10/10 album

>>126884207 (OP)
I'm old but I can tell you with certainty that it was not at all underrated among my millennial friends when we were playing this band at ear splitting volume. Basically no album they released between 1970 and 1975 was considered necessarily weaker or stronger, each had their context and value

>>126885487
this and based. me and my mate (also millennials) pretty much thought the same thing

>>126885465
you make some good points. perhaps 6 was harsh but no way is it a 10. how bout we meet in the middle and call it an 8

>>126884207 (OP)
It's where the drugs began to really noticeably affect the music.

>>126885465
Ozzy wrote the lyrics to The Writ

>>126884207 (OP)
Yeah it's my favorite as well. I revisit it more often than the others
Symptom of The Universe that's my java juice sliced mango delight, bros

SBS > Paranoid > Sabotage > Vol. 4 > MoR > BS
all of them are 10/10

>>126885465
based and sabbath pilled

Its mediocre

>>126887396
dat's a good one

>>126885465
Based beyond belief

>>126885465
based
>>126885385
cringe

>>126885465
>>Don't Start
>not worth rating but it's existence is important
its basically a prelude to symptom of hte universe isnt it?

for me it's megalomania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu2aX_597PQ

>>126884207 (OP)
Symptom Of The Universe is a banger
So is Hole In The Sky
the segues between the songs is what sort of kills the momentum on this album... wtf were they thinking?

Sabotage is Chuddas recognizing Chuddas

>>126889545
No he didn’t and there is no proof he did that other than reddit posts. I’ve been down that rabbit hole

>>126892097
>We all hated going into the studio and dealing with all those lawyers, but it hit Ozzy hardest. That’s why the song “The Writ,” which Ozzy wrote the lyrics for, is dripping with resentment. He put it better than I could have done: “You bought and sold me with your lying words... All of the promises that never came true, you’re gonna get what is coming to you...”
Geezer's autobiography, chapter 6

>>126891890
>segues between the songs is what sort of kills the momentum
Au contraire. they build the drama so the riffs hit harder.

>>126892168
I read that book too. it's not true and he's directly contradicted himself on that before. There are a bunch of contradictions in iommis book too. Often times they have completely different stories on events for the same situation.

>>126892814
>he's directly contradicted himself on that before.
Where?

>>126892814
i wonder if the drugs play a roll?

>>126884207 (OP)
I'll binge listen every Black Sabbath album over the next 48h, along with every Muse, the Cure, Stratovarius, and L'arc en ciel, to see if they rank higher on my favorite artists. Since other people rankings are not always trustable, I think evey fan should do as much.

>>126884207 (OP)
Why didn't The Sex Pistols cover Symptom of The Universe?
It would've been a good song for them to cover.

>>126891330
i consider it more of a segue. it's a lovely piece of music too. i didn't rate it because i refuse to rate something so short. it does what it's there for

>>126894418
The entire thrash metal genre covered it

>>126894452
A bunch of bands have the intros to songs as separate tracks for some reason.
Some versions of blacksabbath albums did that as well.

>>126884207 (OP)
Hey, wait, that's not how mirrors work.

>>126898053
It was a thing back then because the studios thought albums with more tracks would sell better

>>126884207 (OP)
Was "Am I Going Insane' on this one? Because that's probably their worst OG era song