Thread 126921616

>makes redditard lefties and rymtroons seethe
Is this the most based artist of 2025?

>>126921616 (OP)
K

>>126921616 (OP)
thats not an artist, thats a computer program trained on greta van fleet and tame impala b sides

has this board always been full of contrarian retards like OP?

3/10 bait

>>126921645
>computer program trained on greta van fleet and tame impala b sides
This is how you know LLMs will never be agentic because no sentient being would stand for this.

>>126921645
>greta van fleet
thanks for reminding me that this excrement exists. cunt.

>>126921649
Lol have you looked at the RYM comment box where they were shitting their pants about how muh velvet sungod chuds were going to RUIN music??? It was so miserable the jannies had to nuke it. It says a lot about modern music when an AI can make infinitely better music than most of the "crap" that lot worships

>>126921868
nobody cares fag. get a hobby

>March for peace, not for pride
based velvet sundown

>>126921868
You don’t have to defend objectively soulless dogshit music just because trannies hate my guy.

>>126921649
4cucks don't have any actual thoughts and opinions, they just say and do whatever pisses off the normies. If everyone was suddenly a Christian Tommorow than 4cuck would be full of threads talking about how to desecrate and destroy churches. They're not real people, there's no light behind their eyes.

>>126921616 (OP)
Why are retarded conservatives so obsessed with AI? The only explanation would be cause leftists don't like it

>>126922067
they have this notion that theyre "triggering lefty artists".

it also is useful for people that lack creative skills to quickly make propaganda images or write up plausible sounding arguments for their views

>>126921616 (OP)
My favorite song is Let It burn, it's so soulful, especially the solo. Way better than modern pop music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c8KuC9CbdI

>>126922067
That's literally it.

>>126922067
There's a demographic of techbros who are in a tech death cult and think the fancy autocomplete sycophant in your pocket ChatGPT is going to become the new God

>>126922067
>>>/r/ope

>>126922067
Basically. Online right wingers also enjoy LARPing as soulless objectivists so hard that they unironically enjoy seeing people profit off of this new technology, regardless of the ethical problems brought forth.

>>126921616 (OP)
>the velvet sundown
they couldn't even think of a more unique name than aping on the velvet underground, this is the most annoying thing to me

>>126922067
>>126922165
>>126922270
It has nothing to do with conservative ideology. They just realised zoomers are becoming increasingly right wing, so they created the narrative that AI is "based" because it makes imaginary tranny artists seethe in order to make the right receptive to their replacement, just like how they already made leftists complacent to their ethnic replacement.

>>126921616 (OP)
decent but a very common style of music so it would have a lot of training data. would like to see this model would fare with some more abstract shit you'd hear on warp records

>>126922067
The conservative movement is entirely rooted in cultural resentment and spite. If you tried to tell someone that they should want to work 80 hours/week with no social safety net and pay taxes so israelis can have free healthcare they'd tell you to fuck off, but tell them that it will make blacks/browns/fags mad and it becomes a source of pride. None of them really even pretend to to have positive aspirations toward improving society, it's the most postmodern, nihilistic movement imaginable.

>>126922706
Spot on

>>126921616 (OP)
Out of nowhere this starts being spammed everywhere, inorganic and coordinated. Propaganda thread.

>>126922753
spotify is trying to normalize this so they can keep flooding their algo playlists with ai garbage and get out of paying royalties

>>126922067
>>126922104
>>126922165
>>126922706
>>126922726
>At least punk is creative and not really malicious
libtoid lefturd "antifa" mentally castrated cuckolds bowing, kneeling and grovelling at the feet of the very very kosher technocrats (both sides serve the same master), begging for complete chattelization and ritualistic humiliation and grooming everyone around them into their total submission anti-White anti-natalist death cult is not "malicious" to you?

>>126922165
There is no form of life lower on this planet than a tech worshipper

>>126923014
Most autistic shit I've read today

>>126923014
You alright buddy?

>>126923014
leftysisters... we cant recover from this one...

>>126921616 (OP)
AI (Always Indian)

Obviously nobody wants this shit. But I take it as a kick-in-the-ass for 'rock bands' in 2025. Especially the country-leaning ones.

Do you see how fucking cookie cutter and replaceable you are? You wrote some shitty metaphor about dust & wind over some generic roots rock progression...
Rock music is dead because it's all been done to death. Bands playing morning TV talk shows, still LARPing like it's the 1970s with jean vests, long hair, beards, and some stupid fucking hat that nobody would ever wear otherwise.

Being in a band means nothing if you don't have quality, original music to share with the world.

>>126922706
TRVKE

can people who hate AI even see the parallels?

>>126924355
>can't even make an image himself to get his point across

>>126924355
>Aaaaiiiieeee help AI the 4chan nerds are bullying me

I'm old but I had a band in high school and early 20's. If I was a zoomer now, I would use AI to write songs but then I'd just learn them and pass them off as mine. If you recorded and played all the parts, sang yourself, nobody could ever catch you. And AI music is a hell of a lot better at writing songs than small time/local level artists who always have the shittiest original songs

>>126921985
I remember when AI was associated with indians spamming it. Now having unironic retards, thinking they owned anyone just because they can create nothing themselves will never stop being funny.

Can AI create a piece of art that humans physically cannot make?

No?

Then AI is not replacing humans regarding artwork. It's that simple. But obviously AI doesn't have to, it's obviously going to find use with lowest common denomenator mass produced shit like Hallmark Cards that nobody cares about, it is it's own niche, doomers are retarded.

>>126922067
The modern conservative party is like 90% chronically online idiots and Facebook boomers who would kill their own mother if they were told it would 'totally own the libtards' or 'piss off snowflakes'

>>126921616 (OP)
>>126923014
What's the point of you sitting on this board? Retards like you don't even rate the music, but the political views of the artist. You can suck AI shit to spite the leftists, of course you can

>>126925695
Maybe because Velvet Sundown is genuinely good music? It's not about owning the libtards, songs like Let It Burn and Dust on the Wind are much more soulful than the jewish garbage spewed on the radio or the leftist propaganda worshiped in indie circles. AI music is unironically the future

>>126921868
where had this only the left hates ai psyop come from? stop being retards

>>126925806
you fell for the trick of consuming random trash and buying into a soulless faceless product. if a gold plated piece of shit were delivered in front of you, you'd eat it and say it's the future of food.

>>126925944
>NOOOO AI IS SOULLESS AND FACE-ACK!!!!
Maybe you should actually sit down and listen to it instead of whining like an average rymtroon. This entire thread isn't even talking about the actual music, just trooning/chimping out about muh AI. Get a grip

>>126925972
ok fine, if you want to talk about the music: it sounds like shit. even if it didn't sound so artificial and was made by a real person it still sounds like limpdicked and uninspired trash country rock i'd hear on the radio. keep deluding yourself faggot.

>>126926015
t. he marched for pride and not for peace

This shit fucking sucks lmao
And the cover is ugly

>>126921868
>Lol have you looked at the RYM comment box
No, I do not monitor rym comments. It's 4th of July weekend bud

>>126925806
really? but they plagiarized my ai slop and dind't even try to hide it...

I hate all these newgen velvet sundown detractors acting like they know something. If you weren't there for floating on echos, you need to lower your tone

>>126926931
True velvet sundown chads were playing floating on echoes while serving in 'Nam

>>126921649
yes

>>126926931
I followed them on tour back in '89. If you've never taken a thumbprint of acid for a sundown set, you're a zoomer tourist

>>126922001
back to the sharty esl brownoid

>>126925341
i literally did retard
>>126925374
triggered because i perfectly satirized your sheep mindset??

>>126921649
Just a chud baiting as per usual. They always relate everything to some political ideology. I've never even heard of that album before, and I doubt someone gives a shit about it desu.

>>126921616 (OP)
Why every AI art have this weird yellow-orangeish color

>>126925856
Only the left and retards hate AI

>>126925341
He literally did. Haha you're trans

>>126925856
yea bro, i'm sure Lynch, Ye, David Fincher, Abba's Bjorn, James Cameron and many more are just being retards. its you who is the true smart one

>>126921649
No, at least not in this way.
It used to be full of contrarians who believed that anything popular was instantly bad, and who gave the highest value to the most obscure and unique stuff they could find.
Then the counter-counter-culture came in. Guys who were completely isolated to online communities like /mu/ saw the snooty hipster and thought that what people are discussing on mongolian leather tanning forums must be what's really popular in the world, so they rebelled against that. Thus, we got poptimism, LARPing neopuritan """christians""", the idiots talking about how there's nothing more punk than giving all your money to billionaires, stuff like that. They hate the boogeyman 'elite' whom they've seen on the internet and assume exists everywhere in the real world and is ruining their life, so they rebel by listening to Top40 pop, posting "christ is king" over and over after going to church exactly twice, and spamming AI slop while proudly proclaiming that they are unable to tell the difference between slop and actual art.
It's an entire wave of sad lonely angry people who've spent their entire lives online and have therefore been convinced that the coolest fucking thing you can possibly do in life is troll smart people and shit your pants.

>>126928121
I agree with the sentiment, but those tradcath / christian larping fags have kinda transformed into the nu/pol/tard of the present, who's just a nihilist that constantly wants to feed his ego by "triggering" several types of people which he dislikes (envies, really) by being offensive on purpose. It is not only a 4channel phenomenon, too, because you can see them on TikTok and Youtube now.

>>126928121
>poptimism
hmm no, maybe you're thinking of coomers but that's a different phenomenon unrelated to music

>>126928121
this anon is correct and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. fuck right wing botfarms fuck stealth marketing and fuck state actors

>>126923666
Nothing is original. Nothing sounds good pop and country is beyond garbage way beyond its years yet its still going. What's wrong with rock?

>>126924355
...Aren't drum machines programmed by humans?

>>126924355
cool false equivalent but >>126929071 and also the fact that things like drum machines, while automated to some degree, comprise elements of songs, unlike AI music where it's the whole thing (probably because the people generating said AI music can't actually make real music to begin with)

>>126922706
Rightoids are orcs, stop treating them as human and save yourself some frustration. They need to be put down

Don't even hate AI
I also love making the artroons cry about AI art
But this shit just sucks lol. Sounds like the most generic, uninspired crap. Maybe this is why artists hate AI. I don't care about visual art whatsoever so I never saw the point of crying about AI art. But I am a musician and this shit is so generic and soulless, I guess it's more obvious to me since I actually care about this medium. Either way, absolute trash.

>>126921649
yes

>>126928004
photographers and painters use golden hour lighting and then their stuff gets fed into the algorithms.

>>126923014
>durrrr im autitic

>>126929071
you mean just as AI is 'prompted' with human commands? yes, youre starting to get it
>>126929161
braindead interpretation faggot. it's not a false equivalence at all - karens love to assume AI being involved in a process means it did 100% of everything on its own. that's your misconception. many people use AI as one stage of the process

for example, Bjorn from ABBA

>“It is such a great tool,” Ulvaeus said during the panel Wednesday, per the Hollywood Reporter. “It’s unimaginable that you can bounce back and forth with a machine, or a software, which can give you ideas to go in various different directions.”

>Ulvaeus didn't share specific details about the music he is currently working on, but he shared that it is about three-quarters written and clarified that AI was acting as "another songwriter in the room," not that it was writing entire songs.

>“A misconception is that AI can write a whole song. It’s lousy at that — very bad. And thank God! It’s very bad at lyrics as well. But it can give you ideas,” Ulvaeus continued.

>>126921649
OP is one of the few non retards on this board. AI is an amazing filter. do you go along with the hurrdurr environment destroying sllOoooPppp because u saw ppl say that on bluesky and get updooted a million times? or are you able to form your own conclusions on an emerging tech and its potential, even if that means facing the downboats

>>126922297
midwit tier fantano take that has been said a million times on plebeogum already

imagine you are making an AI 'art hoax' band - why would you focus on putting time into making an original band name? wouldnt the band name being generic literally add to the joke, from the creator's POV?

There is more to art than transgression. It takes more than just pissing people off to make something good.

Holy this this sounds like ass. Whoever's behind it also decided to AI generate a majority Pajeet looking band as well.

>>126930570
youre so close. yes we love it bc it pisses the right people off, but that woudn't be worth anything if it wasnt also actually good. it didnt used to be good, which is where it gets its reputation, but now it is. it's not perfect but it is way closer than anyone thought it'd be

The one good thing about AI is that it, like crypto, and NFTs is your stance on it is an infallible indicator of how much of a soulless sociopath you are

>>126930598
>this sounds like ass
Don't you get it? That's why it's so based. It sucks and everyone hates it which means it's good.

>>126929211
It seems the only thing more fascist than fascists themselves is leftists talking about them

AI art, as we know it, sucks ass. But AI as an artistic tool is cool. The problem is the lazy artist making shit art expecting the tool to do all the work.
"Computer, generate music," is going to result in shitty music. But if you use AI to accomplish things that otherwise would've been impossible (see: Synplant 2) then it's great.
So the anti-AI people are right, just not for the right reasons.

>>126930610
>but that woudn't be worth anything if it wasnt also actually good.
...Anon...

>>126930775
finish the thought or else you're a fencesitting faggot. the anti ai people are right for the wrong reasons, sure. but what they're right about (that lots of the AI stuff being pumped out is poor) is a much smaller concern than what the pro AI people are right about (the potential of AI is massive, it is capable of producing impressive results, and it will inevitably be widely adopted)

>>126930775
still doesn't address the biggest problem which is the amount of resources in electricity and water for cooling this garbage costs just so some asshole can make an easy buck off of it. ignore for a second the climate change angle and realize that in the future, we're gonna outsource this shit to third world shitholes and provide yet another argument for why their lives are hell and guilt trip leftoids into allowing them to migrate to our functional first world societies. it's a cancer all the way down.

>>126921616 (OP)
People who don't like them are being very rockist. People need to be more poptimistic. This is the next step in poptimism.
Go listen to Led Zeppelin and The Beatles, boomers.

>>126930789
woosh. of course not all of the results are good. just like not all of the results of a marker or camera are good. but AI as a tech is, yes, 'actually good'

>>126930824
plebbit screeching, so much this. wont somebody please think of le oceans!

>>126930822
That is the finished thought. You're just being combative for no reason.

AI art sucks because the people that use AI to make it tend to be overwhelmingly lazy, but AI as an aide in the creative process is cool. That's the thought. You basically just repeated what I said back at me but called me a faggot while you did it.

>>126930860
>you basically just regurgitated the input slightly rearranged as output
is it any surprise these types of people think llms are basically demigods that live in your computer

>>126930834
I think it is reasonable and rational to be concerned about the effects that human behavior has on the environment, given that the welfare of humanity depends on the outcomes of those effects.

>>126930834
nice reading comprehension. AI is dysgenic on every level.

>>126930828
>but AI as a tech is, yes, 'actually good'
This is the kind of thinking you get from someone who only interprets art as material and nothing more. Music not as artistic gesture, not as sets of emphasis or semiotics, but as cool sounds.

>>126930860
well then your thought sucks bro. 'actually, the anti mob is right!' cool man, brave. they're right about one small thing, which isn't even meaningful. yes a lot of it is bad. 95% of all mediums of art is 'slop'. proclaiming there's a lot of bad AI is like, no shit. that's worthy of being your final thesis point?

>>126930910
pseud cope. the tech simply is good, what is so hard for you to swallow about that? anyone with a brain can look at the available materials and admit it. good luck with the next 5 years gramps

>>126928095
none of these people used AI to accrue their fame and fortune

>>126930911
>they're right about one small thing,
The rise of AI slop has not at all been a small thing. It's been pretty massively destructive and will only worsen with time.
>which isn't even meaningful.
I think distancing the human element from the creative process is extremely meaningful actually.
>yes a lot of it is bad.
That is indicative of its merit.
>95% of all mediums of art is 'slop'.
Actually I think that's just you treating it that way.
>proclaiming there's a lot of bad AI is like, no shit.
...LOL.
We do agree on something.

>>126930921
>the tech simply is good
If that were true you'd see good things come from it. It's been a sea of shit so far. Where are the diamonds?

>>126930937
and that cope is relevant in what universe?

AI didnt exist when those people were coming up. the point is that at their current high level of success, they all played with it saw the value. and they all had a lot more to lose reputationally than joe schmo mu user

>I willingly listen to slop

lowest iq board

>>126930954
every point more disconnected from what i said and disingenuous than the last. AI truly brings out the high horse smug retards

>>126930968
Almost everyone pictured here produced their absolute worst work once they started fucking with AI.

>>126930966
the diamonds are in my pants

really tho its an emerging tech, theres plenty of cool images but it hasnt had its citizen kane yet. it's on point for images but not yet for full film production or music. considering the progress in the last 2 years, have a little vision... its going to seep into everything

>>126930968
ai literally killed david lynch

>>126930968
>dead
>clinically insane
>made his billions before the 80s and did nothing since
>sold out for a billionaire's breeder fetish
>hasn't made a good movie since the 90s
swing and a miss little bro

>>126930992
you know halfway decent gotcha but it falls apart when u consider most artists do their best work in their 20s and these are mostly 30+ year olds. they made their best work in a pre AI world

>>126931010
I'm not doubting that it's going to get more popular. I'm doubtful of whether or not that's good thing. I don't think it is.

>>126931015
>“Natasha,” he said. “This is a pencil.” Everyone, he continued, has access to a pencil, and likewise, everyone with a phone will be using AI, if they aren’t already. “It’s how you use the pencil,” he told her. “You see?”

>>126931023
fair. but considering how stagnant culture and art has felt in the last decade, I think a shake up will spark a lot of cool stuff

>>126931030
ok but it still killed him tho

>>126931038
I think it will definitely change stuff up for sure.

>>126931038
people say "ai slop" but non ai stuff is equally sloppy

>>126931022
So the most influential proponents of AI you could find are a bunch of washed up 40+ somethings?

>>126922706
>Israel is… le bad!!!

>>126922706
If only they added israel to the black/brown/fag list I'd support the right but as it sits both left & right sides are gayer than aids.

>>126931410
given they bombed 30 Palestinians seeking aid by the time you commented this, probably

Sloptimism is the new poptimism.

You are not conservative or right wing if you are pro AI
What is conservative, trad, or worthwile about the complete misanthropic dissolution of society, art, work, spirit, physicality, noble suffering, or basically any virtue that is good in man in favor of soulless leftist corporations ruling you and controlling you forever? Youre going to beg and plead for those insufferable leftist artists you wish to spite by supporting AI when the day comes that you have a talking chip in your head thats basically a leftist that you can never turn off or ignore unlike the ones we have now. Enjoy the amazing wealth of high quality AI content you have now and strap in, it only gets better and better after all. Thanks for owning the libs.

>>126932813
You don't understand, the nice gay Jewish man at OpenAI and the nice Indian man at Google surely have our best trad Western interests in mind

>>126932813
>>126932813
to be a conservative, it means being on top of the culture war meta of ever-evolving ideas and positions, which includes coopting stuff like AI.

>>126933094
>to be a conservative, it means
it means giving all your money to Israel and worship jews

>>126931049
unironically

>>126931060
influence generally comes with age. if i showed u the bleeding edge of underground AI zoomer art you'd go; thats the best you can find, some unknowns? pick a lane :)

>>126921616 (OP)
Can AI music generators synthesize hurdy-gurdies yet?