Thread 126951104

Why is this true in 2025? At least in 2020 we had emo rap

>>126951104 (OP)
Leftists are in control globally, but they are also mentally ill and adhere to a rigid structure of oppression ladder dynamics and rules. Young people tend to be leftists until they grow up and some sense gets into them. They can't invent new shit or be rebellious, because it would offend someone or some group and that';s a big no no. There won't be anything of the sort in the next decade.

>>126951104 (OP)
emo rap is only shocking in how lame it is. that's like saying the "baby shark" song is "shocking".

emo rap wasnt shocking, kanye in his nazi phase was shocking to the sensibilities of the PMC middle class. the french decadent poets had a phrase "Épater la bourgeoisie", or "shock the bourgeoise", the only way to do this in the modern world would be

1. far right politics
2. Christianity
3. sex (now sex is shocking to left and right americans because america is a puritanical culture that hates sex)

and the music industry is controlled by leftoids and jews so none of that would be allowed.


the only person in the art world who understands the current moment is kanye

>>126951104 (OP)
Go back to Facebook

>>126951301
America has never been puritanical about sex. It's often lambasted for being too crass and lewd with its understanding of it. It's amazing how retarded you are. Have a nice day.

>>126951339
seething zoomoid upset by the truth

>>126951104 (OP)
I mean, the last Gen Y music genres that shocked the previous generation were brostep and EDM trap. I don't know how the youngsters are gonna top that, if ever.

>>126951351
america has always hated sex, the evangelical right and feminist left hate sex. what they love is violence

i mean, it wasnt a few weeks ago americans were on in a tizzy because of sabrina carpenters album cover. the leftoids were real mad about that one, but its not like the right was defending her.

Europeans were the ones who like sex

Monoculture is dead. New scenes and genres that would be shocking or transgressive to the mainstream don't seek that spotlight anymore. They just do their own thing in their little corner of subculture.

>>126951134
>Leftists are in control globally
Their time ended this January.

>>126951404
Euros always thought Americans had a tacky and degenerate conception of sex so you tell me.

>>126951104 (OP)
Yeah I mean your generation eats anything up and is so desperate to seem young and hip they could fart in a walkie talkie and you would roll on a bed of broken glass to hear it on your Spotify.

Millennials seemed to hate Geordie Greep, Sleep Token and Sabrina Carpenter though and really hate Clairo.

>>126953295
Millennials immediately embraced Greep. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>126951104 (OP)
Try and bring in some new blood instead of having 40-45 year olds producing all of pop music? Seriously it's been the same handful of guys for 20 years now.

>>126951134
>leftists are in control globally
>most powerful world leaders are right-leaning to fullly right-wing

>>126951301
>>126951404
delusional

>>126953314
I didn't; that guy's a fag

>>126951104 (OP)
An army of jew hornets will descend and sting you to death if you're mildly critical of israel. Boomers never touched that, xers never touched it

RED and ANARCHIST black metal

>All modern music sucks, zoomers have no taste
Also
>When are zoomers going to make music that shocks and offends me
which one is it

>>126953713
I think you might be retarded

>>126951104 (OP)
The commercialization of the music industry has been fully completed, you’re never gonna see anything transgressive allowed within a mile of the mainstream nowadays.

>>126953680
Sweetie the radical left is on full retreat globally we need the economy to die before people will realize that the capitalist class and the oligarchs have been playing the world's greatest joke on us for the past hundred years. And even then it's just as likely we double down and just blame this all on immigrants or degeneracy or a tranny bouncing a basketball too hard.

>>126953713
both

>>126953713
the first situation creates the second one, numbnuts

>>126953968
its funny how spoiled peoples entire psychology boils down to "the grass is always greener"

>>126953968
Actually the radical left is growing while the part of the left that is willing to vote for center-left parties is shrinking

>>126953713
The difference between these statements is about 5 years. You saw the last of the former talking point phased out around last year and we're now firmly in the originality seethe, which reflects reality. Of course, boomers are gonna boom, but I find it funny the way in which they end up booming.

>>126954012
I mean the number of people voting for centrists of both sides is shrinking. The political establishment all over the western world has failed to deliver for the average person. It doesn't help that when confronted with this fact they tell people that they're wrong for feeling this way and actually things are great! The center left especially. I thought I was going to go out of my mind listening to how good the economy was last year.
Either way ideology is dead so we're all just along for the ride.

>>126953968
you mean the joke that demonstrably raised the standard of living for the majority of people on earth?

>>126953333
>A few pop producers are holding back all of music.

>>126954708
80% of mainstream pop is written by the same handful of old washed up guys.

It just happened with the first all AI band.
>he thinks the shocking rebellion would be something his old ass actually understands

This will be fun

>>126954724
Yes. Antonoff, Guetta, Nigro, Timbaland, will.i.am etc as if 2008 never ended.

>>126951351
lol retard

>>126954534
Yupp and where did that standard of living go up the highest.. Gonna head down here tomorrow and apply for a small business loan. Can't wait to start employing people and exchanging goods and/or services to earn a profit.

>>126951104 (OP)
>a gen x made this meme:
zoomers aren't gonna do shit just like how millennials didn't do shit
>a millennial made this meme:
zoomers aren't gonna do shit just like how your generation didn't do shit

>>126951377
>brostep
i'm happy there's been a big long skrillex appreciation thread on /mu/ recently

>>126951134
almost all cultural movements have been leftist except a few
almost like maintaining unnecessary hierarchies is not a good thing

>>126951104 (OP)
you missed incelcore.

it's probably better they don't.
zoomers completely destroyed hip-hop in a single generation.

What music needs is a fuKKKing TIME MACHINE. REGRESS FOR FUKKK'S SAKE!

Millennials decided to collect Pokemon cards instead of carrying on culture.
t. self hating millennial

>>126953269
Lmao he thinks Biden not being president means institutional leftist policy isn't ingrained.

>>126951301
Kanye music isn't shocking it's just wrongthink to leftists and pearl clutchers

>>126953295
>Sleep Token
Sleep Token are Millennials. The rest are Zoomers

>>126951852
>Monoculture is dead
Kendrick vs Drake

>>126955707
If you're talking about Nettspend, Xaviersobased, Lil Pump and all that crap then yeah fair enough you are pretty much right but there are still a couple of normal rappers that you can scrape for (La Reezy, Detahjae, Lexa Gates, SXMPRA, Doechii, That Mexican OT etc). Nowhere near the early 2010s though.
t. self hating zoomer

>>126951134
The only thing that keeps a fascist going is their persecution complex. When Mussolini got into power and annihilated all checks and balances he kept yapping about internal enemies and plebs like you ate that up

>>126957188
>persecution complex
Same deal with (you). Especially if you unironically think NYC real estate tycoon mob goon Donald Trump is a fascist.

>>126957251
>NYC real estate tycoon mob goon for some reason cannot be a fascist
you are retarded

>>126957267
>you are retarded
Of course I am. You would know all about being that yourself considering the headcanon about a cosmopolitan capitalist you and the rest of your ilk have made up just to feel all speshul and margianlized even though you are not.

>>126951339
>>126953713
This and this. Its amazing how quickly millenials became boomers. Things are more than a little slow lately, seems like we haven't recovered from covid still. Also all the would be Stars of today died in the 2010s. Why does new music being shocking even matter? Shouldn't it just be good?

>>126957295
Yes, you are a retarded poltard with a romanticized version of fascism in his head.

>>126957299
we became boomers almost instantly you hypocritical faggot. People are already talking crap about Gen Alpha and are hooked to Nostalgia bullshit on reels.

>>126957371
Everything you just said is false. But thanks for playing.

>>126951134
In what universe?

>>126957472
A lot of Americans still believe Joe Biden is a communist. Thats usually the people who abuse the term leftist on /pol/ and elsewhere.

>>126951104 (OP)
Because too many young dudes are conservative, there's no male demo to make anything shocking and no listeners for it either, most boys won't listen to females in the first place so

>>126951104 (OP)
The least /x/ or /pol/-tier reason I can find is that music has become a spectator sport with social media and it's been fully corporatized through streaming. There are very few avenues for autistic musical control freaks to viably make any money with their music, and there is no real incentive to be inventive either.

>>126951404
Americans turn 18, go to university, and shag a new person every week for like 3/4 years straight. They could do with being a little less promiscuous if anything.

>>126957380
This. I am guilty of this myself some times and I feel bad for it.
Nostalgia is cope. Most old media is slop too. But millennials espacially seem to think something from the 80s or 90s automatically becomes this infallible magic treasure just because it came out when they were kids. Its really cringe and like I said I am guilty of it too and I feel ashamed over it.

>>126953541
And yet gays and trannies still exist in these countries ran by 'right wing' leaders.

>>126957875
this. if right wingers are in controll why cant we kill nigs and faggots

>>126957893
Because that would be a fucking retarded thing to do. Go back to /pol/ if you care more about that than music.

>>126957995
Why don't you try and make me, nigger lover.

>>126954748
AI music is not a zoomer invention tho

>>126957875
They'll always exist, closeted or not.

>>126955151
Now that I think about it, as ridiculous as it sounds, being pro-PRC could be the closest thing to being an universally shocking radical that everyone hates.

Nice try jannie.

>>126951301
both europe and americas attitude toward sex is the same, the only difference is commercialization in america and europe being culturally indifferent to infidelity, so like while both cultures practically speaking are the same, human nature is universal, america has like superficial taboos even though its a normality like "cheating scandals", where as in europe that's just another tuesday, life goes on

The real answer is Cringe Culture, Corruption through Reels and TikTok, the 2021 rap underground, Covid19, the rappers who died young from 2017 - 2019, enshittification, Irony Poisioning, the hijacking of meme rap as promotion through irony rather than genuine cases like Yung Lean, Lil B and Viper. Digicore and Rage emerging just before and after Covid, Trannies hijacking electronic music, TikTok itself, Poptimism, the cultural gutting of hipsters, niggers being niggers, Zoomer culture, the young left becoming repulsive, Trannies invading RYM, rage bait ruining music discourse, shills ruining online spaces, forced memes being semi normalised, the gutting of mainstream rock music, queer culture getting corrupted, trannies themselves, Youtube instrumentals used by some shoegaze artists, streaming numbers being faked, clout chasing, algorithm chasing and many more bullshit I can think of.

95% of this shit circles back to us Zoomers.

>>126961868
Also add Playboi Carti stalling and fucking around with his fans dragging out Opium and the Rage sound for an unnatural amount of time.

>>126961912
>Also add Playboi Carti existing and getting any attention from people
ftfy

>>126951104 (OP)
Western culture is defined by exactly one word and one word only: narcissism.
Emo rap was emotionally absent music made to cater to teen's narcissism.
Pop music at this point is just for catering to slutty women's narcissism
This new string of "alt" (not) country is just made to obsess over being "real" so poor and stupid people have something catering to their narcissism as well.
Our culture has devolved into a cataclysm of people's self obsession. People are freaking out more and more about the aspects of their character they can't change while just not giving a fuck about the things they can. And it's thanks to the popularity of social media.
>inb4 dumb twitter using faggot with the big brained take of "this has always been the case in America"
No no no no no wrong no no you're a dumb nigger social media uniquely made this problem homogenized and hyper prevelent it was nothing like this before you're a nigger off a bridge with you.
The dynamic of normies who fall in line vs black sheep with different ideas in and of itself has disappeared from our culture.
The closest thing to "rebellious" art in the west would be things most people who browse this board wouldn't be caught dead listening to like Ska-punk and Psycho-Billy. You won't meet bands that are bad at playing this music even after 30 years, because there is absolutely no social capital to be gained from idenfiying with this stuff. People who like it are only into it because they like it. They have to be good at it to have people coming to the shows at all. There's other genres like Noise or Outsider Music that are a little bit more "creatively bold" for lack of a better term that fit this description but the days of Manson or Eminem type figures being "shockers" are over forever. That garbage IS the zeitgeist.

>>126958006
Shut up, Jim, you're dead.

>>126957995
>retarded
ableist bigot

>>126951104 (OP)
Emo rap didn't shock me. In fact, nothing these kids do moves me in any real way. Everything is synthed or sampled or autotuned anymore because none of these faggots has any real musical skill, and in the case of general hip hop, that entire scene hasn't had a single worthwhile thing to fucking say since the 90s, which is why it's all broken random mumbles that mean nothing and don't even rhyme

>>126955304
Was just recycled garage punk, it didn't do anything new.

>At least in 2020 we had emo rap
Emo rap existed in the 2000s

These genres aren't exactly new but I think they are pushing boundries all the same. Dariacore, phonk, atmospheric dnb, whatever the fuck yabujin is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kdjaJjOB3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-sQRS-Lc9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLGyc8tYwMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0-w4ItR3Us

>>126962746
Atmospheric D&B has been around since the 90s
Drift Phonk is mixed age range.
Yabujin is another artist in the underground / experimental hip hop space.

>>126962588
Kanye was the last guy to get anything new out of HH.

>>126963703
The point is that the genres aren't new but the artists are still pushing the boundaries of the genres. Like there isn't any 90s dnb like sewerslvt

>>126963806
And that's a good thing.

>>126963806
Yeah you're right onYabujin and Drift Phonk but with Sewerslvt i think it's a pinch more despressive than atmospheric DNB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egd1cC5hH7s

>>126951104 (OP)
Because you need testosterone for innovation.
With the current state of shit we’re supposed to be on a full grunge or punk 2.0 revival already
>but no I wanna be a fagg0t and get fucked by Carti and 2Hollis!
Fuckin fags dude, I especially blame electronic music though.