"Real Breakcore" only consists of the late 90s/early 2000s digital hardcore and jungle punk scene. What is known by "Modern Breakcore" is nothing but IDM with questionable real breakcore influence. When people try to argue that artists like Sewerslvt are not real breakcore, while saying that usedcvnt is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake breakcore as Sewerslvt (plus the pretentiousness). Real breakcore sounds CHAOTIC, AGGRESSIVE, and UNCOMPROMISING. Fake breakcore is weak, overly polished, and a failed attempt to direct energy and rhythm into music. Some examples of REAL BREAKCORE are Venetian Snares, Drumcorps, early Igorrr, and Doormouse. Some examples of FAKE BREAKCORE are Machine Girl (post-WLF), most "lolicore," and anything that sounds like it belongs in a TikTok edit. BREAKCORE BELONGS TO HARDCORE, NOT TO HYPERPOP, AMBIENT, OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE.

>>126974071 (OP)
I agree with you, anon.

It was born out of the demoscene (keygen crack music using tracker software (such as the Amiga OctaMed or FastTracker 2.) VSnares first album was made on OctaMED. Now he uses Renoise. Junglists and Gabber heads.

>>126974071 (OP)
Based and factually correct gatekeeping. But I would have namedropped BLÆRG, Noize Punishment, Patric C(atani) and C(assandra)Datakill, too.

>>126974229
>Patric C(atani)
A favorite of mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsGI8gaccSs

>>126974259
He also released a followup project under the pseudonym of flex busterman to this called "the brain of flex busterman":

https://patric-catani.bandcamp.com/album/the-brain-of-flex-busterman

more chiptune-y than average breakcore, but still adjacent. plus we have his other projects too which are more traditionally jungle/dnb/breakcore style

>>126974259
My favorite Patric Catani song is probably a basic bitch choice, everthing considered, but still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR-ATRktSc8

Also, different artist but one of my all-time favorite songs from that era/scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpaAQAF4Dd8

most of what u mentioned is breakcore.
you are the type of person to say "not music"

anyone remember mashcore? artists like toecutter, rev77, shitmat, etc.. and that whole system corrupt label. here's a few examples:

Toecutter - Shit On Me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlGIKoVr-8M
Shitmat - Full English Breakfast (Full Album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j7rpXCJ3b0
more Catani (GABBA DANCE QUEEN):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6_Hnvk22H4

>>126974356
I love Panacea and also DJ Scud and the whole Ambush records repertoire. It's some earlier BxC material (a couple years before Snares came on the scene.)

Same guy as >>126974356 but man, this brings some bangers back to memory for me now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyXlR5KY1ZA
To this day I believe that this exact style of music deserves its own genre. There is NOTHING that compares to Panacea's Twisted Designz album
>>126974408
Yeah, back when Panacea was a fatso he was absolutely GOAT

>>126974419
have you seen Panacea's Boiler Room set? If not, check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7KuHdFXBd0

also here is another fav from scud/ambush that i was going to post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTOrHLgw2Jc

and this whole album "Hardcore Owes Us Money" by Scud & Panacea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFb5JCMIT3A

>>126974071 (OP)
Here's a live set, one from 2000. From the hardcore/terrorcore/gabber scene (which precedes the BxC scene in many ways.)

DJ Tron vs Delta 9 - Live At Better Living Through Tricknology:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k57FAGZTzxA

>>126974466
Yes, I probably know 100.0% of everything he ever did up to until like 5 years ago (not by heart but for a time I was obsessed with him), all side projects like Kate Mosh, the Hanayo collab, Rich Kid, Problem Child, The Redeemer etc. etc. Disliked most of them. I think he just had something different in mind with his music than what I liked. IIRC he has a classical backgroundd in education and was a choir singer, he probably looks down on his old Position Chrome stuff by now :(

>>126974570
this is the only Rich Kid project I've heard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oqj9uAYWts

It says "DJ Scud / Rich Kid / Panacea" which confused me into thinking it was a seperate persons project.

More from Ambush:

Bloodclaat Gangsta Youth - Kill Or Be Killed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf-JHjY32M4

DJ Scud & Nomex - Total Destruction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0LaOskuZdc

this last track samples the sound of skateboard wheels on concrete or wooden ramps.

>>126974071 (OP)
you mentioned Doormouse. he literally put out an album called "Breakcore" a few years ago and its pretty crazy. terrorGabba kick madness Hardcore beefcake...

https://prspctrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/breakcore

I'm new to music. How do you define breakcore and how does someone like sewerslvt not meet the cut?

In the Name of Breakcore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GYG9HXkmT8

>>126974071 (OP)
can anyone rec me some harsh fuckstep??

sick of niggas acting like their old breakslop is better than the new breakslop. its all the same shit.

Bump for interesting thread

>>126974071 (OP)
breakcore was a tiny ass genre with just a few big names. idk why people still harp and whine about the label so much. A lot of nu breakcorers call themselves atmospheric dnb now the war is over

Holy shit a real breakcore thread, and plenty of love being shown to Ambush. Well if I had to pick a favorite off Ambush Records
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J3N1WubXxs
And not exactly breakcore but still off Ambush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIzu5Hi_nrM

Posting a few other faves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF3mA2hIiFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvjKS71jCXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVV4l7Cl64U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIrDLu2X2-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBrDEfvb0Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wYNsVM30c8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbW3CFbfYsk
There's the always the inevitable Vsnares track but I'll choose one of his deep cuts no one brings up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWkhk4YvkSw

>>126974680
It's the bastard love child of jungle, hardcore, and noise, made with a punk attitude to it. Each artist brings their own different musical flavors to the pot but it's so varied and loosely defined that it's a style where you know it when you hear it. Obviously slicing up breakbeats is the main focus here but this is done in a manner more erratic then what you'd hear in jungle/DNB, to the point where the drums serve less of a time-keeping purpose and become the lead in and of itself. One of the big criterias for me is that the drum splicing should be done in a way where imagining a single person recreating it on a drumset becomes impossible. On top of that, the musical elements surrounding the drums should evolve and propel themselves forward much in the same way. Plenty of old school jungle lends itself to finding a nice melody that can be looped without much change, but in breakcore every aspect of the song should find itself being torn apart and rebuilt constantly. For example, this song has the breaks typical of breakcore, but the piano sample here is looped without much being done to it, not satisfying my standard for breakcore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NEGsRc3fbA

>>126979019
Also it should go without saying but Sewerslvt has none of what I've described in breakcore. It's either looped samples or some kind of trancey hooked drenched in reverb, these are played without anything done to really distort or break them apart over what's usually an amen break just played straight over and over again. Maybe played at different speeds, maybe cutting off parts of it sometimes, but never doing anything to really chop and slice the beat that even jungle artists were doing back in 93, let alone what you'd hear from actual breakcore. Fuck, you'll never even hear a drill in a Sewerslvt song

>>126974229
Op can only name 4 examples, otherwise the text woun't fit on his back.

>>126979019
>It's the bastard love child of jungle, hardcore, and noise, made with a punk attitude to it.
Interesting, are there some must-listen albums from each of those genres so I can listen to those and then compare it with a proper breakcore album?
I wanna partake in the conversation.

>>126974071 (OP)
>splittercore and extratone not shit music
It's nice being on top.

Just listen to some happy hardcore nigga. breakcore is a bloat genre. 0 usecase for that slop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ikg1K8FiMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNC-WzvuEA

is this breakcore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jApZgyJiKw

>>126974071 (OP)
Why has breakcore become mainstream in the past years?
It ws mostly people who played rhythm games knew about the genre.

>>126979746
>Jungle
BLACK SECRET TECHNOLOGY — A Guy Called Gerald
https://youtu.be/ycq0XRAbTI4?si=IFp02H7ikjORa4o7

>Hardcore
THE DEFINITION OF HARDCORE — DJ Randall
https://youtu.be/d2UFhy7dYGc?si=4HSoK4wo8KiCwXmq

>Noise
HYPER CHAOTIC — Masonna
https://youtu.be/n_ER_BgqX0g?si=3O8xUNlnBltGYJ-h

Anyone ever seen the Breakcore documentary "Notes on Breakcore"? if not, here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40FJhPerCHo
has snares and hrvatski and duv nell and etc etc i think doormouse is in there too

>>126982547
Aaron Spectre/Drumcorps

PASSENGER OF SHIT - MELT YA FACES ft Ethereal Girl (2015)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-akDnAu7I

Speedcore, Breakcore, Noise, Terrorcore, Power Noise, Horrorcore

>artists best track is on a random compilation album
Why does this happen so often?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZS8RHJUzlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54X4sYXrvTw
https://youtu.be/KCniZ4FwfPk?si=wlSOy6jn2Ms1JR1j&t=3453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOs_xxz3RSA

bump for interesting thread

>>126982725
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOs_xxz3RSA
lol the death grips remix

>>126974071 (OP)
The Speed Freak - Never Surrender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uErdHW0W-g
speedcore / hardcore / gabber

KENDRICK LAMAR - THEY NOT LIKE US (DOORMOUSE GABBER FLIP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c1z85_Skhg

METRO BOOMIN - BBL DRIZZY (GABBER FLIP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNy_AXiltaA

KENDRICK LAMAR - MEET THE GRAHAMS INST (GABBER FLIP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1vctm53nw

Ehh… spooky goes just as far as is needed in terms of rapid-fire DnB

https://youtu.be/zts0AiOvwwY

You have to be pretty autistic to want something busier

>>126984622
>illbient , d&b
not breakcore but interesting nonetheless. of course we're autistic now give us some busy splashy hardcore bang your head shit

>>126984622
not even rapid-fire

spooky and scanner are adjacent to "experimental hip hop", "nu-jazz", stuff like that. just cause it has breakbeats doesnt make it dnb or bxc. its more hip hop adjacent than electronic music.

>>126984771
although i suppose scanner is at least IDM but not super busy or glitchy with it

any Flashcore enjoyers?

Xanopticon - Liminal Space (2003) Full Album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIu2nAnOKZw

>>126984809
any Footcore enjoyers?

pencil - Do You Know Footcore? [2020]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DqP0U2MoCw

breakcore electronic footcore footwork footwork jungle juke lolicore nightcore Japan

>>126974229
>BLÆRG
Oh, blaerg!
He was one of the first people to add me on RYM years ago!

You could imagine my surprise when I later came across his unique name in an academic breakcore book called:

Breakcore: Identity and Interaction on Peer-to-peer by Andrew Whelan

Recommended!
Have a patrishawn breakcore tune, /b/ros
https://youtu.be/Un-MHUlO64w?si=fm9ab3TdysiGb6LJ

>>126974071 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYeKu0chuFA

>>126985064
>Breakcore: Identity and Interaction on Peer-to-peer by Andrew Whelan

I've wanted to read this for a while. is there a PDF version?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14470873-breakcore

>>126985064
>>126982547
>>126985132
lol always love to see the lore of the scene/genre. interdasting stuff

good thred for once. Pencil is my medicine

>>126985089

I've got 2 VSnares mixes for you:

>Venetian Snares - Bnwmix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uenhJ2vtckg
1 Kid606 - Relive Your Unhappy Childhood
2 Leafcutter John - Zeagma
3 Bit_Meddler - Frustum
4 Ah Cama-Sotz - First Theme Prologue
5 Somatic Responses - Perfumend Ammo
6 Jega - Syntax Tree
7 Cex - An Axe for the Frozen Sea Within Her
8 Mark Spybey + Mick Harris - Good Way to Start a Bad Day
9 Coil - Further Back and Faster
10 Sona Eact® - Rotoreact
11 Senical - Taste My Purple Wallpaper
12 Brian Eno - Lanzarote
13 Delarosa and Asora - Wooden Toe
14 Joseph Nothing - Ballad for the Unloved
15 Aphex Twin - Flim
16 Unseelie - 4D
17 Negativland - Jolly Green Giant
18 not half - Perspiscacity
19 Foreign Object - Die Like a Machine
20 DJ Hidden - Hidden
21 Christoph Fringeli - Fuel for the Fire
22 Cdatakill - [unknown]
23 Temulent - Monoplegia
24 Quoit vs Submerged - Everything You Do Is Wrong
25 Fanny - Carousel
26 Venetian Snares - Punishing the Atoms
27 Quoit vs Submerged - Everything You Do Is Wrong (Rewind)
28 Aphasic - Bloody Nora!
29 DJ Scud - Short Sharp Shock
30 Doormouse - Toxic Jungle
31 Shizuo / DJ Scud - More Morphine
32 Le Tigre - All That Glitters (Hecate Remix)
33 Stunt Rock - Richard Pryors’ Face Catching on Fire As He Freebases Cocaine in the Eighties
34 Ślepcy - [unknown]
35 Ślepcy - [unknown]

>Venetian Snares - Breezeblock Mix 2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dEH7uhZ-ME
0:12 - Twelve
2:28 - Epidermis
4:09 - Des Plaines
7:47 - Make Ronnie Rocket
10:00 - Ghetto Body Buddy
11:44 - Vokeheads
15:03 - All The Children Are Dead
16:31 - Hand Throw
18:12 - Befriend A Child Killer Remix
22:53 - Herbie Goes Ballistic
24:47 - Burrs In My Tail Piss Me Off

>>126974071 (OP)
>early Igorrr
Man I thought Igorrr was the coolest thing ever when I was 12. I briefly check in on his "newer" stuff every now and then and it's a shame he mostly dropped the breakcore in favor for spork metal, not that his breakcore stuff wasn't sporky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDc26K8NmnA

>>126980220
Same reason hacking your penis and balls off and calling yourself a woman became popular

>>126974071 (OP)
>Real Breakcore
Femtanyl, Machine Gerl, Death Grips

>>126986112

Step aside, REAL breakcore coming through

>>126987149
I only realized literally a couple days ago Renard's main alias was inspired by the lit figure
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynard_the_Fox
I'm such an American.

Was goreshit the only good lolicore artist?

this is the most insufferable music community after kpop