"Across The Sea" edition
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SCALES:
https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales

GIT GUD with GUITAR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1L-sBIxnY

tubes are warming up

2nd for natural finishes

>>126998830
>so how many pieces do you want for this strat body?
>just fuck my shit up

>>126998849
Yeah it’s like six or seven pieces lmao, glue tone is good tho

Got my cheap luthier tools in. I'm ready to do cheap luthier things to my cheap chinese guitar

for me it's truoil roasted swamp ash body with cream pickguard and gold hardware

>>126998878
sounds classy

Ships tomorrow. Bought the wife some paint pens to put a design on the chassis before I assemble it.
Kinna thinking of a stick-figure centaur in UV reactive colors. Would be cute. Fuck you, I say cute. Marriage is wild.
Should we black it out with squiggles?

>>126998913
I want to see this centaur. Are you talking about blacking out the centaur or the whole box?

>>126998913
go wild with the design. when ur famous people will wonder what that magical looking pedal is on your board.

>>126998913
How big is the dildo your wife pegs you with?

>>126998913
draw this guy on there and make the light his headlamp. call your pedal delicate steve

>>126998814

>>126998950
The whole box, but with lazy kid squiggles, with a bright UV stick figure centaur. I dunno we thought it'd be fun. It's one of many ideas.
I'll post pics when we do it if we dont make it look stupid lol
>>126998971
I'm a big guy but I'm delicate so we only use little baby dics.

>>126998913
Draw the regular klon centaur on there but with a huge horse cock and pretend you bought a real klon and didn’t notice the giant penis

Awright guys hows it goin, RabebaR here to tell you all about the NEW /gg/ thread...

>>126998998
KEK

https://voca.ro/1bFOtTkt63JT

>>126999075
Rob Chapman taught me one very useful thing I still use to this day, you can take the excess guitar string off your headstock just by bending the string back and forth till it breaks, clean as fuck takes 3 seconds and no tools.

tfw gonna be out of state for the next few days and can’t play guitar

Gd'd'd'd'd'd'deetings I'm RoR ChappahC and i'm here to tell YOU all about my embracing the bald lifestyle. It took me 10 years too long to realize but this is...my final form

>>126998913
this nigga is gay

>>126999097
You can still do finger training. I like to drum triplets.

>>126999117
strangely looks normal

>>126999092
https://voca.ro/1i0S1muhIZqi

>>126999117
Chappers has natural symmetry. Nice try vandensperg.

>>126999149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIh2xe4jnpk

played a 70's fender champ today. sounded good. no real reason to get another bedroom amp.

the guitar was an ampro ii strat tho, kind of dogshit feeling. i don't like the plastic of the modern knobs, the whole thing kind of feels like a toy.

>>126999163
The thing about this song is if he wasn't willing to take no as an answer then he wasn't asking in the first place he was telling, the father isn't being rude he doesn't want his sweet innocent daughter caught up in the life of a drug addict like this man clearly is. He should either win over the father if he really seeks his blessing or should have never said anything to begin with. What an absolute putz.

first for Bo Jonamassive

>>126999170
I can download that amp.

>>126999188
imagine if you spent the time on this on something beautiful

>>126999200
you can do whatever you want

>>126999206
Thats a dumb way to think, thats like saying imagine what a river could do if it harnessed that energy and applied it else where. Silly, that energy is reserved for making those pictures and those pictures alone, it could not have been spent doing anything else.

>>126999161
>artificially applied symmetry
>natural symmetry
is this what you wanted?

>>126999214
I downloaded it now I need to download a cabinet.

>>126999200

>>126999217
it used to be spent on making parodies of songs with all the lyrics swapped to reflect the guy that wanted a vandenberg so bad bros.

these are way easier and less time consuming and get at least the same number of (you)'s. Plus, they make me chuckle when i put them together

>>126999240
ampfags BTFO

>>126999243
Make a boss chromatic coomer

>>126999188
How does the Mormon toggle alter my tone?

I'm ready to preorder these.

Can you model the amp in the room though? Didn't think so. That's where the Fender Tone Master has a leg up.

>>126999243
they don't understand/appreciate real art.

>>126999240
I did although it doesn't really get the bass right because 4' speakers can't replicate a 8" speaker the air moved just isn't the same.
It just sounds ok
https://voca.ro/19yzhPlAPMtt

>>126998830
that tele looks like it's about to split itself up

>>126999277
blud doesn't know how IR's work

>>126999307
Nah it’s just the grain

>>126999307
Hot

>>126999311
>IRs still need an amp to be heard
checkmate vsts

>>126999277
In the simplest terms, an impulse response, or IR, is a digital snapshot of how something, typically a speaker cabinet, a room, and/or a microphone setup, responds to a sound source. In the case of electric guitars, that sound source is usually a guitar amplifier. Imagine clapping your hands in a big hall and listening to the echo – that echo contains all the unique acoustic information of the space you’re clapping in. And in the world of guitars, an IR does something pretty similar: it captures the sonic characteristics of a speaker, mic, and room, all wrapped up into one tiny audio file.

>>126999311
Le Dick Beato face

>>126999311
>beato beatoing his meato bout to busto

>>126999298
wow, the champ must sound like shit

The real secret is it doesn't matter what your tone sounds like as long as it cuts through, most people listen with earbuds/headphones so the bass response is ass. The best tones for playing with others sound like shit when playing by yourself, tones that sound great in your bedroom will sound washed and wolfy if you add a bass player.

>>126999380
It doesn't matter simply because nobody will hear your shit

>>126999269
all for you anon

>>126999217
i'm just telling it like it is.

>>126999339
So if I've got it right, you can hear the amp in the room (that it was recorded in), but not the amp in the room (with you, pushing air in your face).

>>126999411
Yeah they will I force it on my entire neighborhood, you think these /gg/s are recorded in some sterile room?

>>126999426
If recording directing input correct.
If recording with a mic you are now making a new IR of the IR in your settings.

>>126999411
that's where you're wrong. I'm eating taco bell takis burritos.

>>126999411
YOU WILL CLICK THIS VOCAROO
YOU WILL LEAVE A COMMENT
https://voca.ro/1kgXqlgdRPQB

>>126999417
I want my pedalboard to be all fake pedals like this

>>126999426
on all of your favourite records, all the history of the famous amps and tones, you are hearing a representation of the amp in the room, not the amp actually in a room.

how are you not understanding this?

>>126999456
this anon is moving some air

>>126999461
i'm looking for a large image of an overhead empty pedalboard to do that but it's taking ages, they're all trash low quality jpegs

>>126999442
Somebody should make a /gg/ IR, where mountains big burly bitch ass at

>>126999467
i'm not understanding this either

https://youtube.com/shorts/Us2wqVqGT1c

>>126999442
>If recording with a mic you are now making a new IR of the IR in your settings.
whoa that goes deep.
>>126999467
Well duh that's what makes them records. It's recorded sound.

>>126999217
i'm not thinking i'm telling

i guess the point i'm making is that there are so many steps between the guitar and what people actually hear on records.

amp sims and IR's aren't trying to recreate or capture the sound of an amp moving air in a room. The whole point is to mimic the sound of the guitar after the amp, speaker, mic or mics including room mics.

They're not trying to take away your ability to annoy your family by playing too loud

>>126999609
Is this diagram to scale?

>>126999609
If i'm working with a client that wants their crazy loud amp recorded, I'm gonna EQ the shit out of it anyway.
At the end of the day, they just want a representation of their sound that translates to car speakers and airpods/phone speakers

>>126999649
100% yes. If you look closely, these are actually all photographs

>>126999666
sick digits

>>126999609
It's true they can't do everything, but sometimes I feel like my purchases have been invalidated somewhat. And I haven't even spent THAT much on amps. Imagine how the people who've spent tens of thousands feel.

>>126999708
for sure it's a totally different playing experience and if you're playing live then moving air is part of it, i'd argue it matters more for bass than guitar though.

Think of a 20 year old player, they've grown up their entire lives with modelling as a normal option. I've dealt with so many young groups (25 or under) that already run completely digital guitar and bass rigs, have their own full band in-ear setups and just never had hangups about any of it.

They can send exactly the same signal chain from an album to the FOH mixer at every venue they play and they never have to deal with shitty monitors because they have 100% consistent sound between gigs.

If their kemper or axefx or whatever eats shit in the middle of a tour, they can hire another one and jam a usb stick in it to bring up their exact presets again.

>when the solo hit different
>when you only get 4 seconds to talk down ghandi from a ledge
>the band died and exploded when he did this
>it's just a guy running scales really fast

>>126999653
i want the truest approximation i don't want your eq

>>126999836
Don't forget the
>I invited him into my bedroom, stripped and showed him my pussy but he's been doing this for the last 30 minutes
guy

All I want to do is be a rocker
Play my electric guitar with hair-blowing distortion rocking my favorite solos

But fuck me if I'm not just so, so so much better at acoustic. Miles better. Like, I'm wasting my fucking time playing anything else because this is obviously my instrument.

>>126999893
lower the tone unironically when talking to an "audiophile"

No, I don't think I will... Matter of fact, imma be straight with you dawg. I'm a bad man. I'm a problem. Just keep that same energy when my band opens Austin City Limits. Don't @me.

>>126999967
You ok bro?

>>126999967
get em blud

>>126999976
I'm pretty fucking far from ok

>>126999980
We out here

>>126999902
oh yeah. haven't watched music is win in a while

He said don't @him sweetie.

https://vocaroo.com/19aibjQpxVyW

Watch this

sar i am begging of you please do not do it. i have been watch and it makes sad. sar please

>>127000034
It's no good man. Fucking fuck you I'll fuck you bloddy bastard bitch.

>>127000057
samir, please listen to me. samir you are breaking the thread

>it's an anon goes to the pawn shop looking at musical instruments episode
>'03 LP classic, black on black inside glass case as soon as you walk in
>$3,400 AUD. What is this slash's first guitar or something?
>Line 6 spider, $460 AUD
>Bunch of chinese guitars with scuff marks all over the bodies
>Have to deal with the crackheads trying to pawn their shit for the second time this week
>Get stuck in holiday traffic

>>127000061
I am the thread sir. Go purify yourself in the waters of the ganges river. And enjoy a nice ginger curry. Under the palms as the stars shine through the crepuscule sir.

>>127000071
bro i live in podunk. id be amazed if i saw a single guitar valued over $600 in a pawn shop

>>126999893
of course, that's what everyone wants.
Unfortunately you don't play with your speaker cone right next to your head, where the close mics will be set up.

Your ears will be several feet away, probably not directly in front of the speaker unless it's angled up at you. the sound is bouncing around the room too. Even you aren't getting a 'true' approximation of the amp in the room.

In all situations, we're dealing with 'as close to' or 'how it makes you feel' sounds.

>>127000017
https://voca.ro/1d802UM9m62H

>>126999967
And what if I do tough guy? You gonna cry? Gonna shit your pants again? Just back off before you embarrass yourself.

OK /gg/ it's finished!
I'm still working on the exact signal chain but this is the V1 of the /gg/ pedalboard.

If we're missing any important pedals, let me know and i'll see if i have one lying around.

I'm not gonna take any more shit from some dude who can't even write a chorus for fucks sake, verse after verse no hooks no bridge no chorus just another verse. I've recorded in Denmark.

>>126999905
its the same instrument ya dingus

>>127000196
completely different feel especially when you're fingerpicking

>>127000142
fuckin love Chicago. he'll yeah bro

So none of you funkopops collectors have spent any time thinking about it? What will your cope be? You know it's only 1-2 years at most away. You should probably spend some time thinking about it.

>>127000220
Thinking about what

>>127000225
What your cope will be. Generative AI can now produce hyper-realistic emulations of the human voice, a sound so intimately familiar that even the slightest AI artifacts give it away. It can create emulations so perfect that not only does it fool normies, it can even fool experienced AI users. The sound of an electric guitar's signal processing is a much less familiar and less nuanced sound, making it far easier to emulate to that level. AI of that quality will be standard in amp software within a year or two at most. You'll finally lose the last card in the cope deck
>b-b-but I can totally tell the difference between my funkopops and an amp sim!
So the justification will have to be something novel and hilarious. Or else you'll have to do what the anon in the last thread did: finally be honest. It's not about the magic circuits in the funkopops and never was. You just like collecting funkopops.

>>127000272
That might be true for those who don't have god given talent, a machine could never even come close to replicating my god given talent

>>127000272
wtf are you talking about?

AI vs Human talent or Analogue vs Digital?

>>127000278
Sure, I'm not gonna argue that. I'm not talking about performance skill or taste. I don't see AI replacing a good combination of both those things. What AI is replacing is the funkopops. You will finally have to confront the fact that when you come on stage with your funkopops instead of a laptop, you do in fact look like a jackass.

>>127000290
>nalogue vs Digital
That one. AI isn't replacing human talent. Nobody wants to go to a rock concert where nobody is on stage, and even in the recorded music space, lyric generation is done by LLMs, and it's atrocious. Hasn't advanced an inch in 5 years. What I'm talking about is the final nail in the coffin of physical gear. It will soon be indisputably obsolete. Absolutely bested in every conceivable metric by a laptop running a 200 dollar amp sim.

>>127000272
I don’t care, I play guitar because I enjoy it and its fun

>>127000309
You're not really the coper type I'm confronting here anon.

>>127000307
>lyric generation is done by LLMs, and it's atrocious.
I'm glad someone else agrees with this. AI generated lyrics are so awful

>>127000307
See I don't agree with that either, we have very advanced coffee makers yet the most common is the simple drip or french press. We have literal nail guns but we still sell plenty of hammers. Just because a machine can do something better than another machine doesn't completely make the other one obsolete just reduces its niche.

>the drum machine replaced drummers
>the laptops are gonna replace stringed instruments

>>127000315
I’ve got like a dozen guitars, isn’t that a “funkopop collector”?

>>127000272
AI has no personality
AI can't perform live
AI can't (and should not) replace art

>>127000307
I'm only new to this (within the last 5 years)
The Marshall amp i want is just as much as the guitar was, so it's easier to just buy the $200 amp sim and a single channel interface for the PC.

I'm not sure about pedals tho, I think I need to get some pedals...do i need pedals?

>>127000335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gMX_hR-RoM

>>127000272
Can AI produce art that humans physically cannot?

No?

Then AI will never replace humans by this principle alone. It will exist alongside humans and fill specific niches but that's it. Now begone retard

https://voca.ro/17MkvRooF6vl

Do I have to wear this much denim to make a strat sound good?

#LesPaulCrew

>>127000297
You're quite convinced of your own superiority. See, I used to use DSP. I switched back to analog pedals because, admittedly, I like the romanticism of a stomp box. It's part of the aesthetic.
But then I realized something: I could never freely improvise with an amp sim. I would have to stop what I was playing and lean down and change my effects or settings. With pedals you have a forest of tonal combination at your feet that you can freely flow between, unencumbered.
Sure you can set up presets and whatnot. Lots of switchbanks. But presets aren't quite the same as nearly unlimited hands-free combinations.
Maybe lets agree that there are use cases for most popular methods of doing things.
I know, I know. My intelligent, nuanced take isn't welcome here. I have challenged your superiority and you're about to call me a nigger and a retard.
Fuck I hate you all.

>>127000322
That's a fair point I hadn't considered. I guess /gg/ has changed a lot since I last came here a year ago. This time last year they'd have their fingers in their ears coping up a storm. I guess reality finally set in for those anons.
>>127000329
Not necessarily. I have a collection too, but each one is designated to one specific task or sound
>6 string acoustic
>12 string acoustic
>8 string acoustic (with spider capo)
>SSS strat
>floyd rose and sustainiac electric (Eb tuning)
>headless electric (main)
>headless 5 string bass
I'd like to condense that into fewer if I can cover all my bases.

>>127000170
these were funny for the first few, but you really beat that horse until it's bones turned to dust

>>127000359
In Canada they call that a Tuxedo

>>127000375
I liked the first one he made, it saved my life, all his new shit is trash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z9d4qwhA-E
Realistically, how does one achieve this level of improvisation?

I've gotten better since I've been practicing
Is that really all it takes?

>>127000392
Familiarize yourself with the music, know the key. Practice playing along to songs you don't already know.

>>127000375

>>127000362
>But then I realized something: I could never freely improvise with an amp sim.
Cope
>I would have to stop what I was playing and lean down and change my effects or settings.
MIDI pedals are what most guitarists use anyway, even those with physical pedal boards. The FCB1010 has 10 stompboxes and two pedals that function independently for each stompbox. That gives you infinitely more access and smooth control over a much wider degree of sound, giving you far more freedom. Your funkopops will never let you switch from a Mesa Boogie with wah to a fender jazz with chorus to an Orange with delay seamlessly in one song.

>>127000392
compose and keep composing. take the shit you hear in your head and transcribe it, as slow as it takes. noodling along to a song or a backing track is good ear training but it will only take you so far on improvising. it might even make you sound repetitive

>>127000345
>Then AI will never replace humans by this principle alone. It will exist alongside humans and fill specific niches but that's it
Are you thick as pig shit? Read the entire post before getting mad at something I never said.
>>127000339
>I'm not sure about pedals tho, I think I need to get some pedals...do i need pedals?
If you're going to learn amp sims, you will have access to all the pedals in the world within that program. You actually use them as pedals by getting a MIDI foot controller. The Behringer FCB1010 is the industry standard, even for people using physical pedals, because it can control those too.

They hate to see it
https://voca.ro/1NZSVtvk91rN

>>127000392
you're going to need to know your scales and modes, as well as most relevant jazz chords and their inversions, but most importantly you need to do the relevant ear training to recognise them.
fortunately there are hundreds backing tracks for this style of hot/gypsy jazz that you can start playing over.
with standards like this, you need to learn the basic melody, and then you can start embellishing it.

>>127000402
No cope. What did I say? That I use stompboxes for the romanticism. It was my first statement.
I also mentioned switches. Switchbanks have 10, 12, 16 whatever. I get that its possible but you either have to memorize every switch or label it, which defeats the purpose of dynamic allocation. It's just not the same as having a forest of visually-identifiable effects at your feet. I say this from experience, my improvisation improved considerably when I gave up amp sims.
And I used amplitube+MXDrums for years. Had a lot of fun with it. But ultimately I find it most useful for telling me what pedals I want to invest in.
Sorry you can't afford to do that or something, and have to come to 4chan to start fights with random people. You even admitted in an earlier post you were hoping to trigger cope, and you tried to jump down my throat with it, even though I stated in my first sentence why I switched.
So to sum up: You're wrong, inexperienced and worse, an asshole who needs a mental health check.

>behringer
>industry standard

>>127000419
>Behringer FCB1010
kek, thats about as much as the overdrive pedal i was going to buy.

>>127000430
Jimmy Eat World. What a trip, you must be pretty old, not that theres anything wrong with that.

They just can't compare to the majesty of a Deluxe Reverb. It's the greatest amp ever conceived.

>>127000445
Yes newfren. It is indeed Behringer who makes the top-of-the-line MIDI expression and stomp device. Just because they make shitty synths doesn't mean they don't have the best product in this market. If you can find a better one that has come up in recent years, I'm all ears.
>>127000448
I got mine on reverb for 80 bucks. People buy them used and sell at a loss all the time when they realize there's a learning curve. But I still evaluate it as worth it. You have to invest some time to figure out how to seamlessly control every type of pedal that exists? Seems like a fair deal to me.

https://voca.ro/1ftpcMl5eEno

>>127000472
Listen unless you're trolling you gotta come up with something better than "the final nail in the coffin of physical gear" while also pushing lelringer as something special. Tube amps, solid states, and pedals are gonna be just fine, they aren't going anywhere.

>>127000465
>switch to Black Panel setting on my POD
>yep, that's the Deluxe Reverb tone

apparently there are only 2 valve (tube) manufacturers in the world and one of them is in Russia

Did I hallucinate this or did a guy shit up a thread a month ago saying you *had* to play guitar above the navel lest you were a basedcuck betamale?

>>126999075
Why didn't he become as big as Vai, Satriani, Gilbert, etc? Was he too high IQ for noodlers or by not joining the Ibanez mafia he was kicked to the curb?

>>127000617
Over the cock or under the cock never cover the cock

>>127000620
Its cause he put his thumb behind the neck.
https://youtu.be/WpFUJ_J68PE?si=WXyM8IYCMdGuDdOW

over the neck is good if your pinky is worthless

I'm learning through Justin Guitar and he says not to worry able moving your hand much for right now but for up strums I feel like I have to invert the angle of my hand for them.
Is this normal or is it because I only have a medium pick to use?

>>127000522
So I'm one of the anons who he's calling cope on, and it's whatever I mean it's not my fault he can't afford real gear and is coping so defensively.
But the Behringer he mentioned isn't an effect, it's a midi switch bank and he is not wrong when he calls it industry-leading.
Every brand makes both good and bad gear, don't be a brandfag.

>>127000719
It's normal. You'll get used to it. You should be using different muscle groups for upstrums and downstrums, it feels awkward at first but its important for endurance.

Hey I'm Hard Rock Joe and I always used a Peavey amp, I don't really care about names just seems like Peavey gets that rock and roll sound I'm looking for haha, doesn't matter if its tube or solid state Peavey always delivers haha, Rock on Dudes!

>chapman release a new guitar
>its made in india
>the model is SAR

I could really go for a 40 second mindless rhythm less ear rape of a vocaroo RAN (Right About Now)

>>127000816
https://voca.ro/1fjTdRJO3FJH

>>127000824
thanks doc

>>127000816
here i shidded this out for u right before bed
https://voca.ro/1kTIc9uYF90p

>>127000865
magnificent

Happy Friday /gg/.

>hydrated
>in my lane
>thumb over neck
>life is good

>>127000522
>you gotta come up with something better than "the final nail in the coffin of physical gear" while also pushing lelringer as something special.
Again, show me one better. The Behringer is made of metal and can take years of abuse like a soldier. I'm not a Behringer shill. Almost everything they make is terrible. And I do have complaints about the FCB1010, namely that it's very difficult to learn to fully exploit. Be fair here. If there is a MIDI pedal of comparable build quality and flexibility, but more intuitive and at a lower price, then that's the one I will advocate for. As far as I know, no such thing exists. You aren't being reasonable.

>>127000744
Yes I'm getting used to it, trying to practice enough so I don't have to think about it and can sing while strumming

>>127000929
someone told me that reading subtitles on tv while playing also helps. idk.

>>127000917
Billy Corgan uses a line 6

ive got one of these. can i use this as a MIDI controller?

>>127000917
They think you're talking about an effect, they don't understand what a programmable midi controller is used for in a guitar context.
This really isn't the place to be firing in here looking for mostly beginners to defend their choices. Most here aren't concerned with effects yet and real amps are more easily accessible to the fresh beginner.
Also maybe don't scream COPE in everyones faces when they try to explain their personal reasons for not using dsp and then cry about how another anon is being unreasonable. Just a thought.
All of this is subjective to taste and most use cases tend to be valid in the context of the individual.

>>127000952
That's not a MIDI pedal you can use with any device. It's an awesome device for sure, but it's only compatible with Line 6 products. You can't plug that into your computer, pedal board, or synthesizer or whatever. It has only 4 stomps and only 1 pedal that can only do volume and wah. In addition to doing less, it costs more and appears to be made of plastic. Like I said, there is no MIDI expression foot controller superior to the Behringer FCB1010. Billy Corgan would of course opt for that Line 6 since it is more seamless to use with what he already has.

>>127000942
That's actually quite brilliant.
>>127000929
Along with above, a trick I've used is to just mute with the left hand, not fretting anything, and strum dry patterns while watching TV. Not having to worry about PLAYING, you're just keeping time with that constant right arm in varying patterns.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XH9IYsuiJ2M

>>127000979
That's fair enough anon, but I think you're new here. You're way too reasonable to have been here the last time I was here. /gg/ has been a hardcore cargo cult since at least 2019. I even put them to the test once by posting a series of vocaroos where I recorded a dry signal, then ran it through a series of amp settings and one amp sim, to see if they could figure out which of the 5 was the amp sim. The point was to illustrate that even back then, they could not tell the difference, and were fooling themselves to justify their cargo cult behavior. Of course, they all gave different and very confident answers. But none of them got it right, because all 5 were the amp sim on different presets. They coped for years about that one. I just figured I'd come stir the pot a bit, but I guess those people are gone now.

>>127000992
idk what it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUweXAt5OF4

>>127001016
Nah I've been here on and off since 2018 or so, I was around for Sam and his bullshit. Players like Jcum and Pink Suhr.
I don't fit in on 4chan and everyone hates me here. But I despise reddit and have been known to drop a cathartic n-word on occasion, even though I'm liberal and hate prejudice.
It's a conundrum. I'm used to it. At least here I have guitar to talk about.
If you want shitposting, earlier in the day is best. We're pretty chill at night. I try to help newbies by answering the questions I can and do my best not to pretend to answer the ones I don't.
Most seem to appreciate it. Sometimes I get called a faggot. It's all in a day on 4chan.

>>127001016
So you lied in order to "win" and are still gloating about it years later?
That's pretty pathetic, my dawg.

>>127001012
capos are gay, you can make your guitar sound like a bell, pull the G string down over the B string on the 7th fret, pluck the G.
https://voca.ro/16nAeMNzgKOT

>>127001046
I know who posted this but I wont be mean

>>127000942
>>127000997
Great ideas, will try these tomorrow while the house is awake.

>>127001046
>ave been known to drop a cathartic n-word on occasion, even though I'm liberal and hate prejudice.
Kek
>>127001050
If that interpretation of the events is what it takes for you to cope, then...sure I guess? I conducted a scientific experiment and it yielded the data I expected. It's not so much about "winning", but about challenging superstition and my own expectations to the test. Was it a "lie"? Is science a lie? Scientific experiments utilize deception toward test subjects all the time. A placebo is a common example. All I did was give them a fair chance to prove themselves and settle the matter. Had their superstitions actually been factual and I had it all wrong, all of them would have immediately identified that it was a trick question after hearing the samples. I thought perhaps the discourse will be less retarded after demonstrating that gearfags are superstitious, but no, they actually doubled down and coped harder than ever.

>>127001063
I'm not really well known, I don't have a trip or anything.

>>127001085
thats the neat part. Your sentence structure gives it away.

>>127001095
Ok. Like I said I'm not well known, I don't have a nickname or anything, at least not anymore. But if you recognize some of my other posts that's cool I guess.

Best settings (amp/pedals/EQ) to achieve this 80s oi sound?
https://vocaroo.com/1fXHgEQpaM5a
Sounds simple, but I can't get something clean, it always sounds muddy.

>>126998913
cool, anon. hope you have fun.

if i was you, i would mark it up with tape then spraypaint it. think of the bumblebee guitar but white and black themed instead

>>127001208
>think of the bumblebee guitar but white and black themed instead
before he had the bumblebee in vh2 he had the original striped strat body in vh1, the body that ended up becoming the frankenstrat. people don't recognize it because it had a full pickguard on it and it just looked like a fender.
but that guitar was black-and-white striped and i always loved it. and i did consider that as an aesthetic, but eVh and MXR have a line of pedals that have the vh striping and I didn't want to temu that.

>>127000094
well this is why i mic the amp myself but regardless a nigga better not fucking eq me

>>127000272
guess what happens when ai runs out of shit to train on and all the npc people who were trying to emulate other people are now emulating ai

>>126999893
That is not how mixing works anon. That's not how anything works. EQ isn't an effect. It isn't solely for creative tone control. It's a tool that allows two or more sounds to come out of the same speaker without turning into a blur. Every single instrument in every single track you have ever listened to is EQ'd.

>>127001300
we have already hit that point, anon
shit in > shit out

dont fall for the current fomo

t. programmer

>>127001320
shut the fuck up don't talk to me you stupid faggot

>>127001300
>guess what happens when ai runs out of shit to train on
100,000 human made tracks have been uploaded to spotify every day for a decade.

>>127001300
its already happened with the image generators, they are now training on their own generated images by mistake and its like an old xerox, a copy of a copy. artifacting and hallucinations are getting way worse because of it

>>127000969
YES!

>>127001331
Also, training data won't even be necessary once it reaches the stage of AGI. The defining characteristic of AGI is that it can creatively solve complex problems that it hasn't been specifically trained to do. AGI would look like ChatGPT listening to an audio file and producing accurate sheet music, tabs, and chord progressions for every instrument in the track. That is not something it is trained to do, but it is something it is expected to be capable of at some point.

>>127001199
Really?
Can I hear the current sound you're working with?
This just sounds like simple OD with some EQ, that EQ heavily depends on which amp you're using, you should be able to achieve this tone on pretty much anything

>>127001363
AGI is so far away dude

>>127001331
None of those tracks sound like mine. zillions of planets in the universe only 1 earth

>>127001331
yea and only during that decade. the future decades will decline exponentially for various reasons. you can already see people imitate ai in their speech on the internet, and realize where you are reading something that was written by ai. descending into nothingness. it's not gonna get any easier for them.

>>127001363
there is no such thing as agi lol

>>127001325
If you're really in the business you've seen the reality. Teams being cut to fractions because AI eliminates the need for pairs programming and most validation. Things like CoPilot are increasing code output by a hundredfold. Whole development farms are closing.
It's a fallacy to believe responsible companies are asking AI to "create" for them. They are using AI for efficiency and to eliminate human error, and thus human oversight. While this still has the potential for issues, it's not nearly as irresponsible as relying on AI for creation.
It is terrifying how fast AI has destroyed the software development job market. Its touch is spreading to every other corner of IT as well -- security, devops, administration, eu support.

AI doesn't have to create in order to destroy. That should be a song lyric.

t. devops engineer who left the industry and gave up his software development side projects because AI has made it all pointless

Music is all that matters to me now. I don't care if AI copies it, it can't copy me.

https://voca.ro/17WNC0FIhTba

>>127001422
oh its you
https://voca.ro/15MjEFwIbfaR

>>127001400
>look how good ai is
>meanwhile nvidia drivers are pure shit because they started fucking vibe coding (just one example)
im not falling for the fomo just because everyone else did, anon
what you explained in your post, is a bunch of fucking idiots falling for it, then you pointed out you fucking fell for it too.

shit will swing back the other way when the normies realize vibe coding aint it.

we have already hit the point of there is no more data to feed it, now most of the big actors are feeding it fucking ai generated shit to train off of.

Just two more weeks, right?

However, i am glad you found something else to do and which brings you joy.

https://voca.ro/131kmTwctFYl

and yes, i used reddit spacing just to piss that one anon off.

>>127001491
u bloody mother fucker you

I win. Never lost in my life to be frank with you all. No shame in losing to the best.
https://voca.ro/1eaTIEQ1n5ae

>>127001477
Nobody is talking about vibe coding.
Do you know what pair programming is? It's where one person codes while the other validates in real-time. It's an extremely popular practice, some 60% of the worlds largest software development farms utilize it for efficiency.
AI has made pair programming, and manual validation in general, completely irrelevant. Not necessary anymore. That's roughly half of the worlds top 60% suddenly unemployed. Are you actually in the industry or just a hobbyist? Because its not just pair programming. It's dozens of things like that, that AI has made irrelevant.
Nobody is asking it to create. It's not being trusted with anything. It doesn't have to be in order to destroy the job market.
Also, AI has been in the nvidia drivers since DLSS.

why's there so much AI doom and gloom in the guitar thread? Also what job am I supposed to get when I'm into music and tech...

Also, and this is just a blast to the general, there is no relationship between LLM's (OpenAI) and AGI. AGI is currently a pipe-dream and we won't reach it in our lifetime due to power requirements and our current limitations. Nobody reasonable is suggesting we're close to AGI.

Ima go play my guitar and go to bed now sorry guys

>>127001515
The only ones losing their jobs due to AI is literally pajeet codefarm workers, H1B1 pajeet visa workers and pajeet consultant firms.
(nothing of value was lost)

>>127001364
>Really?
I never managed to get a good tone, honestly :(
>Can I hear the current sound you're working with?
Here's a quick try: https://vocaroo.com/1cAKyqUBLxAm
>This just sounds like simple OD with some EQ, that EQ heavily depends on which amp you're using, you should be able to achieve this tone on pretty much anything
I assume it's pretty simple indeed, hence the frustration. Since I'm on vacation I didn't take an amp with me, I'm using amplitube.

>>127001556
have fun, anon.

>>127001344
>>127000969
kek, its so janky but I am able to toggle different presets, set delay, reverb or wah to on.

>>127001565
>Letting the jeets touch C++
That's a really bad idea

>>127001542
What kind of tech? Check out the Rig Doctor at Vertex Effects (youtube) and see if that stuff interests you. There's also audio engineering as an option.

How can I become a truly great player like Kerry King

>>127001641
At LEAST 3 hours of practice daily for 5 years to sniff at being a pro, and to be at THAT level takes either double the time or triple the hours.

Also, someone link this kid the system on youtube.

>>127001641
If you've been jackin' it every day you're already equipped to be Kerry King

>>127001581
yeah this is gay. i might just go get some pedals

warming up the tonex

people say 'hey what kind of wood should i get' and i'm like, well... that depends. what kind of strings are you planning on running on this axe? what pick thickness and material? how deep do you cut your nut? don't sweat picking out a tonewood. listen to your heart, let your personality and style guide you to what works with your music, because you're special

people say 'hey what kind of strings should i use?" and I say, "well... that depends. do you play swing like the Brian Setzer Orchestra... or pop punk like Simple PLan? Before you pick out a string, you need to discover yourself... and what kind of music you like playing on your axe."
-Cleveland Scott

Setzer just uses 10-46 D'Addarios... probably like a lot of pop punk guitarists (and me btw). In a way, he is a pop punk guitarist. Just the best one ever.

>>127001890
guitars for ants.

>>127002074
I wish tonewoods were real. It'd make electric guitars more interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJRYra1xnNU

>>126998878
>for me it's truoil roasted swamp ash body with cream pickguard and gold hardware
nothing better than the natural feel of the wood you get with oil finished guitars, even my cheap $200 Jackson Dinky feels awesome in the hand with an oil finish. I really hope more guitar manufacturers offer it as an option

>>127002230
I always thought it looked cool for shredder type guitars. Not a shredder myself, but that's what I'd go for since I play other shit and doesn't pigeonhole me.

"Dinky" is just mean.

>>127002296
They changed it to Virtuoso just recently. It's been Dinky forever.. don't know why they bother now.
There's a good reason for it though. It avoids that weird problem of some 24 fret guitars looking odd or oversized, especially on the bottom.
At least I think that's the reason.

>>126999277
>amp in the room
How did the marketing jews convince people that "amp in the room" is something they really want? No one was inspired to play guitar by "amp in the room", it's always been from recordings or live performances (which is not an "amp in the room" sound)
I enjoy modellers letting me sound like I'm in an arena if I want.

>>127002387
There's a fuckload of recordings with "amp" in the room sounds. But it may just be partially one mic blended with a cab mic.

>>127002400
Our favorite /mu/ Big Mac appreciator is notorious for all kinds of "in the room" micing. Noticeably with drums, but guitars and the whole band too.

You hear the sound of your guitar string being tuned. You wake up see this hovering over you

>>127002462
Instinctively punch it. And rape it.
Same with ayys btw.

>>127002462
bunny?

>>127002462
I pet the kitty

>>127002479
Does it matter. He touched your guitar.

I swear some demo's are so shit that you have to step outside and try the gear yourself

>"you gotta fight the vibrato a bit, maybe upgrade to an aftermarket one"
>"oh yeah the neck pocket sucks, try buying an aftermarket part for it"
Le sigh. At least they listened and use mustang brides now. Much improvement over the original design.

>>127002507
Marshall Origin is one of Marshall's least regarded amps, but it's really cool. Glad I bought one. Some reviewers go in expecting a cheap Plexi clone, and hate it. But it's more of a JTM45 clone with some Plexi territory. Even better, it's a good clean amp and good pedal platform with a loop. Unlike old Marshalls.

>>127002400
That's not an amp in the room tone then, it's a recorded amp sound. You don't even understand the bullshit sales term that you're defending.

>>127002680
I'm just jumping in. Not part of the previous convo. Not some hill I'm here to die on. Just saying that's a sound.
If it's in modeling amp features, it's because of the autistic cover bands who needlessly want to recreate album experiences. I guess. I don't know why they're like that. Covers sound cooler the more unique they are.

>whole album is just a mix of the same powerchords
who writes this shit?

Biggest redflag of a dogshit "guitarist"

He "plays" Fender or Gibson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTAy3MwnQ9o

They just got that twang *boomer bends and shits himself*

>>127002387
Before you modeler kids came around, trying an amp in person, in the room, and falling in love with it was nearly a universal experience for guitarists. If you think no one ever found inspiration from that, you don't know amps.

>>127002742
Enema of the states is still fun.

Why are these threads so shit? Half the posts are just schizo shitposts about nothing.

*BOOMER BENDS FURIOUSLY*

>>127002776
I don't know what makes zoomers so arrogant. Nobody listens to you. Guitar related music died on your watch. And there's far more where this old guy came from. He's merely paying tribute. Western Society was literally fucking built on boomer bends. lol. Not even joking.

>>127002805
I think it's because of posts like >>127002805

>>127002805
Contrarians don't know what to be contrarian about now that things like tonewoods are both deboonked but also cringe and tone is 90% in the signal chain and the fingers and nobody here can really play that well.

>>127002776
You're just jealous he plays better.

How do people play with vintage size frets? They’re way too small. Every guitar I’ve played has all got medium jumbo or larger or at least taller than vintage, and when I looked at a vintage reissue Telecaster I couldn’t get over how tiny and weird feeling the frets are.

>>127002844
I can cope with vintage frets more than old Fender radius. Probably just a skill issue. I never hear Jimi fretting out (that I know of).

>>127002830
Tones in tbe speaker. Techniques in be hands.

I'm gonna say it. Hating boomer bends is the equivalent of hating America itself. Hating bikini armor, floppy tits in vidya, the male gaze, Rocky movies, the fall of the Berlin wall, boomer bends - it's all connected.

>>127002915
Boomer bends vs Tim Henson, good and toanful vs evil and sterile

>>127002915
truke

It's fitting that the one song dedicated to the fall of the Berlin Wall is just one big boomer bend :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgkuM2NhYI&list=RDlXgkuM2NhYI

>>127002975
That song is about the empty sentimentality alcoholics experience on a night out drinking.

not really of a fan of the staccato or runs that go nowhere or the key changes mid song

>>127002984
It worked though.

>>127002554
>Marshall Origin is one of Marshall's least regarded amps, but it's really cool. Glad I bought one. Some reviewers go in expecting a cheap Plexi clone, and hate it. But it's more of a JTM45 clone with some Plexi territory. Even better, it's a good clean amp and good pedal platform with a loop. Unlike old Marshalls.
Its really a shame that Marshall didnt educate their userbase about the Vintage Modern because that was an amp directly based on the JTM-45. Unfortunately users didnt really understand how to use it and it got a lot of haters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6eOAYv7PBk

>>127002975
>*shitty CIA-funded MK Ultra circus music starts playing*
>I WISH I COULD SWIM LIKE A DOLPHIN CAN SWIM
>*shitty boomer bending*
>I WILL BE KING
>AND YOU
>YOU WILL BE QUEEN
>*shitty ten minute 1 note bending solo*
>FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
>*song ends*
wow, truly the GOAT band. Thank you Boomers for your truly groundbreaking music

>>127002777
I grew up in the 2000s and toured with real amps, I don't play any touring bands now and I prefer modellers when playing at home. That whole "you kids don't understand" doesn't work on people who have actual experience with this shit. I still have tube amps and use them but the "amp in the room" sales pitch is bullshit. Finding an amp that is better than other amps you've tried is inspiring but not because the magic of "amp in the room".

>>127003026
Yup brings a tear to my eye

>>127003026
hes ded btw.

>>127000170
Oh hey there are some I missed on there. The Hetfield yeah pedal made me chuckle

>>127000170
for me? it's de nigger

When is the last time a song tricked you?

>>127003026
>CIA
stop reading. This is a line from the most bottom of the barrel resentful fatfuck retards who can't even wrap their head around how songs are made. They ascribe it to magick or some all powerful force (CIA or Jews being the favorites). You shouldn't be speak like that in a /gg/ thread. You know how songs written. We all can write them. Even if they're shitty.

I've seen the ghost of fatness future in the face of Tim Henson

>>127003005
Yeah, it's a better version of the Origin, but more expensive. Same with Studio JTMs (although that seems to get more love).

>>127003162
Ah yes my favorite pro censorship “you shouldn’t be allowed to say that” schizo. I bet you don’t even boomer bend. Guess how many wrongthinks I’m doing right now?

>>127003209
You can say it, technically. I'm saying you should know better. Stop slumming and pretending to be a retard.
If the average anon caught one actual glimpse of the basketcases who say stupid shit like this on this site, you'd stop meme'ing them and modeling your lives after their dumb shit. This is yet another reason the boomer world was better. No internet. These people were weeded out of any conversation or society easily and had no platform. Never able to influence anyone.
And if you want to talk about schizos, it was a fucking schizo who started most of that CIA shit. Terry Davis. A sick man who eventually got ran over by a train. Or thrown in front of one. I bet the latter.

anyone else feels like fishman fluence voice 1 vs voice 2 is almost superfluous as you can just roll the toan knob down in voice 1 mode and get practically the same effect?

>>127003329
nope, post a voco

*CIA boomber bending intensifies*

i was the kid in school was really good at rubbing his stomach and patting his head at the same time

>>127003487
So you're our drummer

DR. PAVAL

I'M CIA

>>127003566
that meme is older than some of the people on this board right now

The only appropriate place for a strat.

#Lespaulcrew

>>127003657
it feels like it was only yesterday.

2025...Dark knight, 2008...

FUCK

>medium jumbo frets
are there jumbo jumbo frets?

>>127003657
Well those people shouldnt be posting here until 2026 ><

I haven't done much boomer bending during my time playing. Will have to practice them more

what happens when you bend and use the thingymajig at the same time

>>127004017
Same sound I make when I nut after a two day good sesh

>>127004029
voca?

>>127004017
Same sound I make when I nut after a two day goon sesh

>>127004017
it snaps back and cut your fingers

I wanna get better at playing fast and for the next few weeks I'll be out of town, I wanna put in some proper practice to get there. Only thing is I have no idea what to practice. Going on YT feels like wadding through shit because I have no idea which influencer cunt is just selling shit and which are actually worth watching. Plus I'm an idiot who needs a step by step guide of "do this, this and this for X amount of time" and so far none of the practice videos I've watched have done anything close to that.

just practice scales dumbass

>>127004094
The general almost always has this resource posted to it:
https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales

So uh this general is botted now too?

Sheesh!

>don't want to play the boring lead
>bursts into the rhythm parts
>will play the chorus because it has the riff
>will play the solo
>will also play the outro.

which ones are bots? at least gpt can be witty

>>127004094
fast shredding is actually the easiest thing to start learning on the guitar download (pirate) the Michael Angelo Batio Speed Kills video course

>>127004501
he gave me the keys but not a Lamborghini

>>127004515
He gave me head

>>127004518
Can I?

>>127004518
OOH OOH OOH OOH
JET BOY JET GIRL

>>127004530
Yes

>>127000630

This is more of a technical question, but whats the real difference between how a guitar amplifier works and how a car stereo works?

i mostly want to know how the "central unit" interacts with the speakers.

I know guitar amps are usually designed for an specific amount of ohms on their speakers, usually ranging from 4 ohms up to 16 ohms or so, so surely the car stereo must act as an amplifier too in order to send sound to the speakers in the car, with each car speaker also having its own ohms rating.

But a car has usually 4 speakers or even more, so what are the total ohms ?

>>127004128
>>127004329
Anything beyond scale practice? I know I should do that, never got around to it because I'm lazy, but is there anything besides that I need to practice?

>>127004501
Yeah? He was offering the keys to the Lamborghini but I always thought it was too good to be true. Will have to check them out. I see there's more than one though, any I should focus on above others?

>>127004648

>>127004646
Why do you care about ohms?

There are DIY tube amps with schematics you can buy as a kit. These and all amps are designed by engineers. Your car stereo will be solid state and usually made from cheaper components or it'll be a generic design and just rebranded.

Amplifier design is a year course in uni if you're studying EE with electronics as elective

>>126998913
Is your wife a biological female? Be honest..

>>127004753
i dont want to learn the whole circuiit, just how amps interact with speakers and ohms
could i use car speakers for a guitar amp, or guitar speakers for a car stereo, for example? my car stereo sounds dogshit

>>127004648
>>127004748

>>127000641
Seeing wrinkly old dudes with jet black long choppy hairdos is a prescient reminder to keep my sense of style in check and appropriate as I get older. Less than 5% of them can pull it off. Ozzy, Iggy, there’s only a small handful of rock guys that don’t come off as sad/sorry looking

>>127004646
The speakers are your load. The load is the impedance or ohms that a device has to deliver electrical energy into.

Solid state amps are very tolerant of higher impedance speaker set ups though they lose power output. They have an optimal rating. Below that rating the power amp can draw too much current and become damaged.

You can solve your speaker impedance with a signal and some math or approximate it with a multimeter.

You can use a bluetooth speaker in your car and save some effort.

>>127004779
So on the back of your head unit there will be 8 wires

Front
Left and right, +/- for each

Rear
Left and right, +/- for each

Your head unit will play the digital format of the song, process it by converting it to analogue (DAC) and pumps it out to the speakers. The coil of the speaker is suspended in a magnetic field and when the coil receives an electrical signal it causes the cone to move and create pressure waves known as sound.

Every speaker has an impedance rating (measured in ohms). The higher the ohm rating the more power the speaker requires to drive it.

The problem you will encounter is that guitar amps run on mains power, headunits run on 12-24vdc.

If you want to interchange speakers you need to add up how many speakers are in series and know the power of the amps and speakers.

>>127001016
All 5 of you vocas sounded like shit bud

>>127004648
playing guitar is a lot easier that people make it out to be, there is a million videos on youtube on how to 'escape scale pattern prison'. If you get through the whole Speed Kills course then you can will have the facility to learn scales on your own and ignore all the stupid youtube videos

>>127001542
If you want to live comfortably and actually have disposable income for gear and guitars? Engineering or IT.

>>127001016
Glenn would be disappointed in you for doing that

>>127004966
>Seeing wrinkly old dudes with jet black long choppy hairdos is a prescient reminder to keep my sense of style in check and appropriate as I get older.
he wears a wig, its literally the worst most obvious wig, you think he would have upgraded it by now

>>127005003
i made it fellas

>>127004609
I hoist mine all the way up to my nipple

>>127004991
>Engineering or IT.
sorry grandma, the 'learn to code' meme has ended, there is NO WAY any white guy is getting an IT job in 2025

>>127001016
No control = shit experiment desu. You didn't allow people to make proper comparisons

>>127005022
I'd probably go cyber or network admin related. Software engineering has been going downhill since windows xp

>>127002935
Somebody posted about Twink Henson being the guitarist of his generation in a recent thread. I’d beg to differ, it maybe be a bit apples and oranges but I’d put Billy Strings and Marcus King over Tim Henson and I don’t even like blues/bluegrass all that much. Henson has no pedigree, his music sounds like the way he looks, which is to say gay, in the middle school sense of the word.

>pick up friends guitar to show him a lick
>the strings are sticky

jesus christ i would make Twink Henson the happiest boywife ever

>>127004973
>The problem you will encounter is that guitar amps run on mains power, headunits run on 12-24vdc.
yeah but guitar amps speakers are just running on ohms right? they would work regardless
picrel is parallel, is that the common car stereo setup ?
also if my stereo doesnt deliver enough power without sounding bad, how could i check wether its a speaker issue or an amp issue

>>127005602
I'd make that bussy so run thru he'd be permanently incontinent