Thread 127023602

Heavy Metal edition

What is Progressive Rock?
>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/

Good albums to start with?
>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.png (embed)

Obscure prog gems
>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/

Previously, on /prog/: >>126955079

if anyone here doesn't mind enduring 25% of this being metal, it's a really great prog rock album.

>>127023602 (OP)
Brutal prog > prog metal
https://youtu.be/viGEhEvbVCk?si=egq56tq510FZqbvT

>>127023602 (OP)
Used to basically live in this general up until a few months ago. Glad to see /prog/ is still thriving. Just came by to drop this mostly instrumental Japanese zeuhl/jazz rock gem for you bros

https://youtu.be/O1iNYSvuLPE

i can't BELIEVE none of this is real and you fags are just figments of my imagination.

recommend some Prog for my Dog

>>127026109
https://youtu.be/vWpCLDWf83w?si=OjFtlOjaaX-ppVum
https://youtu.be/tPspHihuJ8w?si=LULQ-_5Nl9kojs_A

Michael Sadler's cancer has come back and it's apparently incurable. Very sad, great frontman.

>>127026109
Dogs by Pink Floyd obviously.

F
https://www.loudersound.com/bands-artists/strawbs-founder-and-singer-dave-cousins-has-died-aged-80

The real King Crimson is releasing a live album on September 26th

>>127028931
rip cos

>>127028931
I’ll have to listen to Ghosts later in his honour.

Remember when Steven Wilson made ASMR?

https://youtu.be/sj8OAK7yUHI?si=FfQNhP4FwAYm1bUI

>>127029479
Moggs anything Fripp has released since 1998 for sure.

>>127026109
Seamus

>>127029479
based

tribal prog?

>>127031945
Discipline
Remain in Light
Graceland

>>127029479
The real King Crimson hasn't released an album in half a century

>>127032248
*quarter of a century

>>127032345
*crime of the century

>>127032248
Disciple was pretty great, but it's barely even the same band at that point
Three of a Perfect Pair is alright
the rest of their stuff sounds like self parody

>>127032564
shame about those wikipedia scores

>>127032905
>it's barely even the same band at that point
Anon this is the band that couldn't go one album without breaking up and reforming with a completely new lineup and sound in their heyday. That qualifier is meaningless.

what else by GonG is worth getting into outside of the Radio Gnome Invisible trilogy?

>>127032949
the first two phases (Court-Islands and Larks-Red) were still consistent within themselves and among eachother
the 80s new-age sound, however, was very far out of their usual approach. I don't dismiss it though, Beat is weak, but I listen to the other albums quite often

Jupiter Island is surrounded by oceans
Majestic ballerinas with graceful motions
Magenta forests on a crimson sea
Electric clouds are as vivid as can be
Scarlet moons in a domino sky
So take my hand and we'll fly

>>127031945
tool

>>127031945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3dtoQ2lyAQ

billy joel was kinda proggy sometimes ngl

>>127031945
gamelan

I just noticed the horse cock

imagine how great Tales from Topographic Oceans could have been if they condensed it down to a single album

70's prog worship done right

There is avocado under my naked feet
The skin is soft and warm
Gives off the taste of meat
A sussysloot sashays into sight to be engaged
Involuntary celibates are impotent in silent rage

The poors hoard what leaks they seize
"Cope, dilate, and seethe"
Each clip and image are free if you lurk moar
There's no hiding behind paywalls
Just a manwhore to adore

The paypigs pore the floor in the porous fleshy corridor
On my second sight of simples, far more thirsty than before
They're heading in heat to a writhing, fetid crack
Where the coinslot's eye is winking, closing on their backs
The 'Cado Coomers feed their Boomer:
>We've got to get him to get off
>We've got to get him to get off
>We've got to get him to get off

There's only One Direction in the music that I hear
It's coming from the ceiling, where the fans are drawing near
Like a concert fight for stage sight, that takes place with every stan
They are pulled up by their oshi, believing in the plan
The 'Cado Coomers feed their Boomer:
>We've got to get him to get off
>We've got to get him to get off
>We've got to get him to get off

Mild-mannered mukbangers are force-fed through the night
And the based and boipilled evaders post with their bodies glowing bright
'Tween the cheeks a chungus feast is splayed across the sky
In the chasm lies a cavern that quivers with delight
The 'Cado Coomers feed their Boomer:
>We've got to get him to get off
>We've got to get him to get off
>We've got to get him to get off

The polyethylene powerchair with failing frame fears collapse
And the only fans pay per their view, they charge back all they lack
The liquid has congealed, which has seeped out through the crack
And now Niko's got his boyfriend back :)
The 'Cado Coomers feed their Boomer:
>We've got to get him to get off
>We've got to get him to get off
>We've got to get him to get off

>>127029479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yocWjVBHK0g
Really regret not seeing them when they were nearby - best version of Sheltering Sky yet

>>127023602 (OP)
How did they get away with it?

>>127029479
>The real King Crimson

>>127032964
Their entire discography. If you're just a pleb, then don't bother, but every album of theirs is worth listening to. We all know your time isn't that valuable, so just just listen to all of it.

>>127038922
why are you being rude? I was just asking if it the rest is good

Is Home by the Sea + Second Home by the Sea prog?

>>127036597
not as good
it only works because it's vast, slow, meditational, an ocean of music
anything less than a song per side would be too little

>Tales from Topographic Oceans
>A Passion Play
>The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
>Lark's Tongues in Aspic
>Brain Salad Surgery
>Pawn Hearts
>The Final Cut

prog bands' greatest albums are always divisive or dismissed by the common plebery for being too daring for the casual listener

>>127038960
Nothing after Wind and Wuthering is Prog

>>127038991
>The Final Cut
>daring

>>127038958
Listen, dumbass. If you like a few albums of a band, it should be the obvious next step to listen to all of their albums. This is somehow lost amongst retard tourists. Yes, most (95%) of the rest of their albums are good. But how would you know unless you listen to them, retard? Listen to them, dumbass.

>>127039039
hey... lay off him

>>127038991
>Final Cut
Hey Roger!

>>127038991
Pawn Hearts is actually not that criticised, probably due to the fact that the casual listener doesn't get into VDGG in the first place

>watch Pull Me Under's music video
Jesus they cut out half the damn song

>>127039618
It's not only short but they also cut the best parts. It worked though. I knew about Pull Me Under long before I started caring about Dream Theater because the song was very popular.

>>127039633
First song of theirs I heard was Constant Motion cause it was in Rock Band as DLC

>>127039507
Horizons is soulful and tasteful.
Tony could never.

I love Canterbury Scene so much, bros

>>127037836
Grammys didn't want to give it to that heckin scary thrash band

>>127040280
agreed, fuck that other anon

>>127038960
It's an 11 minute song with a long instrumental, multiple parts and a pretty challenging drum groove on the second part.
All the ingredients are there but at the same time it doesn't sound like prog. Makes you wonder what even is prog.

>>127040306
>>127043011
Extremely based

>>127043163
love me some Richard Sinclair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoXrRsGroGs

>only just now found out that there was a remastered deluxe edition of 666 released a few years ago with both the english and greek versions included
Sounds pretty good so far

>>127044893
>laid down sick bass and guitar lines on every genesis album
>wrote many of the band’s greatest songs from each era
>achieved international success twice over with mike and the mechanics
>only genesis alum other than peter or phil to have a number one record
I’d say he did pretty well for himself. He seems even more posh and fussy than Tony though.

need me some dark prog, any recs, proggers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3lVXDNTgMU
yep, it's slop

>>127045476
doesn't get much darker than this, seeing as it was an offshoot of a doom metal band

>>127046207
I love seeing this band get posted more after shilling then on this board for years. I found them like a decade ago at the peak of my Lovecraft phase. So underrated and I wish they did more

>>127045689
Hi Tony

>>127046983
If I wanted to see a Genesis tribute show I'd just go see the Musical Box.

>>127046983
If I wanted to see a Genesis tribute show I'd just go see The Last Domino.

what is the most Occult prog band?

>>127052639
Comus, maybe.

>>127052639
Ghost

>>127052639
20th century Magma

>>127052639
Larks era King Crimson, unironically. Fripp was deep into magick and esotericism at that time and had a crazy wiccan gf.

>>127054229
Fripp was just autistic or schizophrenic. Bro literally thought the world was going to end in 1981 and split up the band. Sacrificed what would have been an epic lineup with Ian MacDonald rejoining. Instead, we get that 80s slop, so yeah. There's that.

Discipline moggs any 70s KC album

>>127054229
He still is. You can spot his bookshelves in some of his Youtube vids and they're filled with old grimoires

I find bands like Genesis extremely goofy.

>>127055327
Genesis (after Wind and Wuthering)*

>>127052639
Gong.

>>127054932
MacDonald fags cannot fucking get over that, can they?

>>127056140
is McDonalds prog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgSxGaW1OjQ

Guys...

>>127053518
They had a song called "Elephas Levi." I can't imagine any other band out-occulting that.

>>127056583
Doesn't that guy hate Jews?

>>127027234
Damn. He is a great frontman. SAGA had I think the last show on Cruise to the Edge this year. Regardless of what day it was, it didn't start until midnight or something. The crowd was tired and a lot of them didn't seem like they knew the music of SAGA at all. Despite playing to one of the most uninterested crowds I ever saw, he still acted like he was playing a stadium full of die hard fans. Big respect right there.

>>127056596
Give it a rest

>>127056589
Track titles are all alchemical references here

>>127056583
Is Pink Floyd Epstein-approved?

>>127024938
>>127036644
fine, ignore my posts but you guys are missing out on some great shit

>>127056583
dave won

>>127056577
This is actually a pun on the theme played at the beginning, which is borrowed from Brahms' Haydn Variations. Brahms was from Hamburg, hence a Hamburger.
https://youtu.be/tJVSPSehxKQ

>>127059448
>goes to see the last genesis show at o2
>even mingles with the band backstage
>STILL refuses to go on and sing with them, even for just one song
It's been 50 years, Pete. Get over it.

>>127056140
>MacDonald fags cannot fucking get over that, can they?
Can't get over the fact that MacDonald perfected their debut? Yeah, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

>>127060495
but ItCotCK is their worst pre-80s albums you dumb faggot pleb

>>127060574
>their worst
Unlike most, I don't think it's their worst, but I also don't think it's their best. It exists in a realm that is separate from most of their discography which makes it special.

>>127060588
erm, it's just a worst version of erm In the Wake of Poseidon

>>127060605
>worst
*worse
what the fucjk

>>127060605
Only the title track comes close to mimicking the sound that was on ITCOCK. The rest of Wake is very much in the jazz vein of early 1970s Crimson before the Wetton era.

>>127060650
blah blah blah whatever

>>127060655
Yeah, so next time you want to call me a faggot pleb, have a look at yourself first when I can actually defend my claims, retard.

>>127060680
why are you still crying? i won the argument, get over it.

>>127060692
Delusional.

>>127060696
i know you are

>>127060700
>>127060692
>>127060655
>>127060613
>>127060605
>>127060574
Average 80s Crimson troon fan right here, folks.

>>127060712
no that would be you akshully

>>127060712
and i clearly say here >>127060574 "their worst pre-80s albums" implying the 80s albums are worse (obviously) not sure where you got that from.

>>127060940
why are you still crying? i won the argument, get over it.

>>127043163
The ending of Mumps always has me in bliss

>>127043163
>that heavy piano drop on Fitter Stoke has a Bath

*invents prog rock*

>>127032964
Camembert Electrique
Acid Motherhood
the rest are shit

>>127062029
>filtered by Shamal

>>127056589
>Éliphas Lévi
I have a very weird relationship to that track/Eliphas Levi that all happened within the same week like half a decade ago

>learning/reading about Éliphas Lévi in university
>was getting into Magma the same week, slapped on Merci for the first time without knowing they had a track called Éliphas Lévi
>literally the day later I started reading a visual novel where one of the fuckable girls was Éliphas Lévi

Felt like the universe was trying to tell me something.

>>127063780
What VN?

>>127061270
actually i won, re-read the conversation.

>>127063780
shit like this happens to me all the time, i swear this is all my fucking delusion and all of you are figments of my imagination, or you are all different personalities in my head, but who am i? am i even the original one? how could i know? maybe i'm insane, maybe i'm dead and this is purgatory, or maybe nothing exists and everything happening now is everything or somethings that COULD exist?

>>127063780
occultism, zeuhl and anime porn
the /prog/ experience

>>127065044
where kita

>>127065087
At the old man brothel

>>127059506
Fuck off Tony. You cared more about your wank than supporting your best friend's family

>>127065087
stop talking about that whore, this is a Taiga general.

>>127063780
That's insane. You should take a picture of yourself goatse-ing and post it here.

>>127065907
umm... prog?

>>127066170
Yes. >>127056583

>>127066221
>>127066170
Taiga is 18

>>127065887
Is Tony in the room with us, anon?

>>127059448
Tony seems to have aged a lot in just the last 3 years.

>>127067683
he's 75

>>127066170
Zeuhl

>>127059448
Why does Tony always look so angry?
Still seething that after 50 years people can't not bring up Pete?

>>127068866
he and mike are posh faggots, haughty impatience is part of their dna

>>127068879
.

post music for fucks sake

>>127027234
Shame, really like those few Saga albums - great Canadian prog!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTKckmVXKIA

>>127069092
i did >>127058453

>>127069152
thank you, I'll check them out

>https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definition

is just having unusual form enough to make a rock song prog?
>Form: Progressive rock songs either avoid common popular music song structures of verse-chorus-bridge, or blur the formal distinctions by extending sections or inserting musical interludes, often with exaggerated dynamics to heighten contrast between sections. Classical forms are often inserted or substituted, sometimes yielding entire suites, building on the traditional medleys of earlier rock bands. Progressive rock songs also often have extended instrumental passages, marrying the classical solo tradition with the improvisational traditions of jazz and psychedelic rock. All of these tend to add length to progressive rock songs, which may last longer than twenty minutes.

>>127069697
long classic rock songs are prog i'll stand by this

>>127069765
I wouldn't say 100% of the time. There's some long ac/dc songs that just do the same thing the entire time.

>>127069765
what about long metal or modern rock songs?

>>127069697
>>127069765
There's such a thing as "proggy" even if it's not prog. Lots of songs are proggy.

>>127070000
digits confirm, i agree
>>127069973
i'd say so yeah as long as it's over 7 minutes

>>127069942
>I wouldn't say 100% of the time. There's some long ac/dc songs that just do the same thing the entire time.
I could be wrong, but you can decide for yourself. Here are their longest 2 songs. Both about 6 & a half minutes.

>Ain't No Fun (Waiting Round to Be a Millionaire)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BSIFNuFa-RE

>Night Prowler
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9YWXZcKvp9Q

>>127070068
correction, the first acdc song i linked is just under 7 minutes.
And there's a full version with out the fade out that's about 7:30:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XO6LOrnSxz8

>>127069765
No.

>>127070018
>i'd say so yeah as long as it's over 7 minutes
I could probably pull out shorter songs from non-prog bands that are prog (or proggy).

Again, the anon(s) who called Camel boring, you're so wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ADW5aJfY7U

>>127070000
>>127070018
>>127070225
Would sails of charon be proggy?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r-J_KXCz_m8

A shorter and more obscure song is Thy Kingdom Come. Would that be proggy?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=n-ZsSi0JEdI

I liked discpline more than the debut king crimson album.

>>127059506
I'm at least glad Phil and Pete have a decent relationship. The amount of garbage fan lore I see online is exhausting.

>>127055327
>>127055461
Genesis, like most prog bands, were always kinda goofy even before their radio-friendly era.

>>127023602 (OP)
>jethro tull is a flute metal band
>listen to aqualung
>no flute
???

AND NOW THEY'RE PLANNING
THE CRIME OF THE CENTURY
OH WELL
WHAT
COULD IT BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

proggers
https://youtu.be/CmSPCsJ7S8E

>>127070497
Is Comic Sans prog?

sans undertale?

>>127070628
it must have been then

>>127070466
Did you somehow miss the flute in tracks 2, 4, 6, 7, and 10?

Daily reminder that....
>80s King Crimson is not prog,
>Is a Talking Heads cover band,
>and Fripp is retarded.

FACT: belew is the best guitarist to ever be in crimson

>>127040306
>>127043011
>it's just prog but from a different part of europe
>make a new label for it entirely
mentally ill RYM tier thinking

Crazy how the Talking Heads Cover Band was the best thing King Crimson ever did...

>>127070955
Canterbury actually has a distinct sound. Rock Progressivo Italiano (formerly Italian Symphonic Prog) on the other hand should not exist. Apart from its lyrics, there is nowhere near enough to distinguish it from the rest of the world.

>>127071521
how does Italian Prog not have a specific sound to you? It is very much a particular distillation of symphonic prog, most italian prog bands, even the fully instrumental ones, share a very particular sound

>>127070638
LE HECKIN JOJO REFERENCE LMAO????

>>127070866
How is discipline not prog?

>>127070866
based and correct on every account

>>127070866
You lack discipline

>>127075324
Let's be more specific and look at a single song:
How is indiscipline not prog?

>>127075324
Just listen to it. Maybe 5-10% of the album can be considered prog.
>>127075484
This anon gets it.
>>127075912
>You lack discipline
>Posting an image of Fripp
The levels of irony are off the charts.

>>127043118
>Makes you wonder what even is prog
Truthfully prog is mostly about breaking out of the 3 minute verse-chorus radio play structure and singing about something other than women, but without the total indifference of jazz.

>>127070707
Love Mother Goose.

Courts is leagues above Discipline, it's crazy there's people here who prefer Discipline. McDonald - Giles - Lake is the absolute best Crimson.

>>127077113
close, but the Wetton era will always be the best

>>127072376
Many Italian bands do share a similar sound. But it's not enough for it's own genre. Plenty of non-Canterbury (even non-English) bands have made Canterbury albums, because it is a real genre. If RPI was an actual genre, then there would be at least one non-Italian band that has made an RPI album. But there isn't because it's a meme genre. I will give PA props for finding a couple symphonic Italian bands that they don't classify as RPI, but there should be more if it wasn't a meme genre.

>>127078086
doesn't matter, genres are emergent phenomena

>>127077113
I'm not saying court of the crimson king is bad. I just prefered discipline, because i liked more of the songs.

>>127070707
I think he meant the song

>>127078086
>If RPI was an actual genre, then there would be at least one non-Italian band that has made an RPI album
from what I've listened, a few south american prog bands sound similar to RPI bands
Bacamarte is one of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jpa7nBKe6o&ab_channel=Hi-EndAudio%26MusicHi-Fi

octavarium is the best lengthy song from DT

>>127081609
change of seasons

>>127081609
I liked Count of Tuscany but I mostly find Dream Theater to be putrid.

>>127081609
Yeah, after it starts 12 minutes in. If that opening movement were 5 minutes to set the mood, I could agree.

Is it prog?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OffF0e2h4TU

>>127085754
>power metal riffs in pop tonality and 4/4 for 12 minutes equals prog

>>127085754
that's just standard power metal
this is prog power metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDSYfCtH9oU

>>127070137
>No.
Do you have counter examples?

>>127086269
Yes.

I actually like Jakko. He has a nice voice.

>>127086758
who has nicer voice, Jakko or Steven

>>127086758
He has a very serviceable voice to cover all the basses of KC's career, which was the point. It's not a great or powerful voice but it's a satisfactory medium between Lake, Burrell, Wetton and Belew.

>Steven W*lson
>J*kko
>K*ta
yikes

So, who's the best lyricist of /prog/? Sinfield? Peter Hammill? Ian Anderson?

>>127088155
Nah, fuck him.

>>127088122
Unironically

>>127088122
Fish

Can't get enough of this one at the moment

bump

>>127088122
Anderson, then Hammill
most prog lyrics are lame or cringe, but these two are poets of the highest calibre

>>127088960
>but these two are poets of the highest calibre
Well, I wouldn't go that far. They're just less lame and cringy, one-eyed kings in the land of the blind.

>>127088166
Hi Dave

>>127089505
I'm Syd.

>>127088205
Marillion is the worst thing that's ever happened with the genre.

>>127089556
Even worse than prog metal?

>>127086413
>Yes.
can you share them?

>>127085754
>>127085804
>>127086020
why is or isnt it prog?

>>127090587
No.

>>127088122
Hammill > Peart > Sinfield >>> Ian Anderson or Fish or someone. who cares?

>>127091124
>Peart
his lyrics are edgy nerdy shit

>>127091172
The dancer slows her frantic pace
In pain and desperation
Her aching limbs and downcast face
Aglow with perspiration
Stiff as wire, her lungs on fire
With just the briefest pause
The flooding through her memory
The echoes of old applause.
She limps across the floor
And closes her bedroom door...
The writer stare with glassy eyes
Defies the empty page
His beard is white, his face is lined
And streaked with tears of rage
Thirty years ago, how the words would flow
With passion and precision
But now his mind is dark and dulled
By sickness and indecision
And he stares out the kitchen door
Where the sun will rise no more
Some are born to move the world
To live their fantasies
But most of us just dream about
The things we'd like to be
Sadder still to watch it die
Than never to have known it
For you, the blind who once could see
The bell tolls for thee
The bell tolls for

Neither edgy nor nerdy. But also, prog in general is nerdy. It's fine.

>>127091681
yikes

>>127091681
Based and Losing It pilled
I think Neil’s lyrics got better in the 80s when he stopped trying to write literal short stories and started expressing his autistic musings in more abstract and poetic terms. Entre Nous and Afterimage are other great examples.

>>127088122
christian vander

>>127088122
stevie wonder

>>127070137
this but yes

>>127070466
i think he uses flute live sometimes in aqualung

So will there be a new KC album or not? It's Jakkoslop anyway so probably I won't be as interested

>download 'prog' album
>it's fusion
into the trash

>>127095871
Hate when that happens.

>>127095871
jazz-prog is the best

acknowledge kansas

>>127095871
Enough about Lizards.

>>127097737
I only like the first two albums

What is the most ridiculous, most pompous, over the top prog epic?

>>127097870
One of Transatlantic's would be my guess.

>>127097870
Tales from Topographic Oceans

>>127097870
The 1981 Retrospektiw version of Theusz Hamtaahk.

>>127097870
Karn Evil 9 and it’s not even close

>>127097870
there's probably some hour long prog metal suite out there that takes the cake because prog metalfags don't understand subtlety.

>>127097737
Masque is great.

Tony Banks and Roger Waters are the GOATs of /prog/

>>127097936
>>127097973
either one of these

>>127097936
>Theusz Hamtaahk
Theusz Hamtaahk doesn't really come off as "pompous" to me, to me it is pure schizophrenia (in a good way)

>>127095871
fusion is prog, but /prog/ isn't ready for a TRVKE of that magnitude

>>127098577
Have you not listened to the entire 20 minute second half of the retrospektiw version?
https://youtu.be/1evu2YMhJ2Q?t=1104

>>127098621
that's the best part

>>127098635
nobody said it wasn't
but it's pompous as fuck even for Magma standards
semi-related but it's probably the closest Magma's came to sounding like regular symphonic prog rather than zeuhl too

>>127098706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHGqGmzzQaY

>>127098604
I've accepted this duality for as long as I started listening to prog.

fusion is prog made by americans

>>127098878
>prog usually draws on elements of English folk music
>fusion draws heavily on jazz which is based on various types of American folk music
you make a compelling argument

New best version of Have a Cigar just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4nNXk7Y8Hg

Does /prog/ like prog-soul?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmqrbL2bbO8

>>127098878
Oh no, don't bring out the "prog and jazz fusion are two entirely separate genres with absolutely no intersection whatsoever" autist

>>127098878
>fusion is prog
All I needed to hear

>>127099197
how do i into prog soul?

>>127099195
It's funny because Pink Floyd isn't necessarily known for being the most sophisticated band rhythmically but I think Have a Cigar has one of the finest flows I've heard in any song ever, it's perfectly swingy and laid back and it sounds wonderful

>>127070265
Based, ITCotCK is good but it always annoys me that it's their most well-known album when it basically represents the band at their infancy

Discipline is an incredible album but I hate the title track and I hate that it's the closer

>>127099301
Lizard, Islands, Larks, Starless, Red, and Discipline are all better than ITCoCK (I don't know about the rest after the Belew era because I haven't listened to them)

>>127099301
>represents the band at their infancy
Name a better debut. They had to start somewhere. Discipline is no where near ITCOCK. inb4 people think I suck off ITCOCK. Personally, I do like Lizard, but the Wetton era is peak Crimson.
>>127099341
Discipline sucks. Having that album near Lizard, Islands, Larks, Starless, and Red is ridiculous. ITCOCK is far better and it's not even a contest.

Listen to XYZ (EX Yes Led Zeppelin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDAvAvLqes

>>127100115
I'll listen to YYZ instead

wow you guys are fucking dorks, no wonder progressive rock is dead

>>127098878
Maybe you're talking about contemporary american fusion, but the americans that invented fusion didn't listen to prog rock so this is pretentious gibberish if that's what you mean

>>127099197
off topic

tarkus style jazz
https://youtu.be/IZtG4CltzWA?si=4Rxmxof4aDrid8Rl

Can you tell me where my /prog thread/ lies?

>>127101235
Accurate that the group only has like half a dozen people kek

>>127101455
KEKYPOW

>>127101455
>More is.... le better!
Yeah, I'm glad this niche genre is obscure and isn't popular unlike most of the slop discussed on this board.

>>127101235
i like progressive rock, i just hate the poindexter faggotry

>>127101583
>arguing the inverse is....LE LOGIC

>>127095871
Which album?

>>127101654
It is, you're just retarded.

Ross Jennings and Colin Edwin met up

>>127101999
>fallacies are logic

>>127087298
>>127088122
Steven, of course

>>127097886
they're pretty tame

>>127100613
progressive metal is very alive thoughalbeit

>>127024938
band and album name?

>>127103613
not the anon but A Rare Thunderstorm in Spring by Perihelion Ship

>>127103463
unfortunately

>>127088122
Sinfield for poetic lyricism, Waters for conceptual realism, Banks for some sort of weird functional middle-term between the two

>>127088166
Hey there Dave

>>127103686
Pleb choice.

>>127091124
Murrican detected. They always had trouble appreciating Anderson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Y5jpovjtg
glad to see OP's project took off

>>127105364
of fucking course its m*tal

>>127105278
brother beat out Metallica's objectively second best album (RtL, AJfA, KeA, MoP) in a genre they didn't even write. They didn't even show up because they thought it was guaranteed they lost.

>>127088122
Whoever the Van de Graaf guy is, he's very good

Japanese prog (that isn't Ruins or Koenjihyakkei)?
Also I just remembered the time an anon described Magma as evil Splatoon music and I laughed. I can see it tho..
https://youtu.be/lRYcvmGKN5g

>>127105553
Yonin Bayashi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUasw5dynfw

>>127102663
>Generic 1984 insert
You don't even know how to argue, pseud. Shut up.

>>127099854
That's only talk

>>127098878
>>127099090
Didn't the british 21st Century Schizoid Man pioneer jazz fusion?

>>127106824
>pioneer
no, fusion had already been going on for a couple of years by then
Miles Davis, Frank Zappa, Chicago and BS&T started prior to KC
also, Soft Machine would have been a better example of early british jazz fusion, their debut came out in 67

Does modern stoner rock go in here

I've seen jazz fusion and jazz rock differentiated before

>>127107043
it can be a little proggy sometimes

>>127107537
Here you go then, my favorite band to see live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nngcqn43ZbU

>>127107152
jazz rock is a fake and gay genre created by people who can't come to terms with the fact that fusion can be simple

>>127107152
>>127107559
Jazz rock is a type of jazz fusion but not all jazz fusion is jazz rock.
Jazz rock's largely defined by that late 60s sound you see in a lot of proto-prog, prog adjacent, early prog and canterbury bands
like zappa and soft machine

Is wanting to kill myself prog?

>>127108476
Keith Emerson made it prog

>>127108695
man, come on

>>127106172
>DURRRR JUST INFER THE OPPOSITE AND GET UPDOOTS DURRRRRRRRR

>>127107043
No

>>127107152
most jazz fusion has nothing to do with rock or jazz rock which justifies the distinction. the only people who get butthurt over such basic logic are closed-minded avant-trannies who don't like being reminded their tastes aren't as vast or special as they think

>>127075975
> Its only prog if its 20 minutes long and has an organ solo

>>127070866
i need more prog bands in balatro form

>Jethro Tull thread
>No discussion of Jethro Tull
What's the big deal? I for one love Jethro Tull.

>>127035676
Anon is a boeing engineer

>>127106824
>>127106985
charles lloyd quartet invented fusion in 1966

>>127111555
>>127111555
>>127111555