>Production Resources:
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
https://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

Use Vocaroo to post WIPs.
https://vocaroo.com/

No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud links).

Sister thread: >>>/g/dmp

Previous: >>126975246

>>127033925 (OP)
still gay guitars. why are you gay?

https://voca.ro/1axKRu9JCvO4
DG Freestyle (snippet)


https://voca.ro/1lrrRTABzB9D
Ex


https://voca.ro/1glQuTNqKLpG
Court Order

These are hip hop songs I made.

Whoever keeps bullying me, stop. I already ponder suicide enough, I don't need my hobby to be turned into an instrument of anguish as well

>>127033954
the options were the following
>gay guitars
>pedo piano
>troon trumpet

>>127033972
okay sorry

>>127033972
>>127033976
>>127033925 (OP)
those are my guitars and i approve this post. but the funny part is im brand new to producing and production so for me to be used as an example is quite baffling

>>127034695
beautiful piece - shame about the life laugh love cushion next to it

Good night, Paul Rodriguez.

waow OKAY

https://vocaroo.com/1k8wsZrEed1X

Tomorrow is a new day and another chance to make our best song yet ! :)
:(

The last track I made over a year ago
https://vocaroo.com/1fTQP1XvgEJz

>>127033976
You missed some
>Chad churchbells
>stud stockfagott
>gigachad guzheng
>lady killer lithophone
Put those in a track together and the panties will soak for you.

>>127033925 (OP)
>electric guitar for production
tfw my Gibson ES339 (I don't really remember the number, it's the recent smaller one) doesn't need more than DI, thanks to hollow body, beautiful highs and zero hum, cuts perfectly through the mix.

https://voca.ro/1kOiVA5CAns9
https://voca.ro/1gNfre6Ru3GJ

anons.... youve been making music for a while.... surely you are learning theory right.... right?

Warning: extremely gay

https://vocaroo.com/1f1AoxyahP0j

>>127038562
Yeah. It filters me like you wouldnt fucking believe, brother.
P.S. Your shit is super cool

>>127033925 (OP)
If i would break into your place i wouldn't steal a single guitar of yours. Nice job preventing possible theft!

hello!

>>127040565
kys

>>127040600
y

>>127033925 (OP)
>>127040604
Microkorg=micropenis

>>127040800
why even quote me

>>127040804
because (You) have a micropenis

>>127040824
retard

>>127040565
>>127040600
this general in a nutshell

The best production in terms of mix in dance music is Soulwax and things produced by them. IDK how they do it so well; I know they use all insane analog gear. I want to sit in while they mix something so badly.

>>127040958
tasteless

>>127041109
Gripping conversationalist you are. What sounds better?

Feedback
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-aJW9lkO0

>>127041284
No shilling

Really tempted to get a midi guitar

>>127042288
I was looking into this a few months ago. Which ones are you looking at? I downloaded some guitar to midi plug-in which was supposed to be one of the best out there (can't even remember the name now desu) but the tracking wasn't good enough to actually use it to compose things quickly and easily.
Never going to buy a whole dedicated midi guitar, so I hope the software improves or super good midi pickup systems become cheaper and less ugly.

I took an anon's advice and extended the string section despite kind of not wanting to go through the effort of shifting everything, and I'm glad I did because I'm happy with it. It maybe needs some more mid layers, I don't know.

I'm still not 100% sure on the intro. On paper I like the idea of a slowly building augmented chord (it's a C(b6) chord I think?), to build suspense as the ship flies through space before the brass section (Mars finally comes into view from inside the cockpit), but it needs some work or it needs to be redone. What do you think? Either I could layer some brass halfway through that part so it doesn't end up sounding too empty by the end, or maybe replace it with an organ? But then it feels like I'm just ripping off Interstellar, and the rest of the track is already ripping off Gustav Holst - Mars lol.

And yes, I've come up with an autistic story behind the piece. I plan to write an entire movie in my head but only using the soundtrack because I can't actually make the film.

https://voca.ro/1bbUwP6Q2Lch

>>127042358
The Jamstik, not the cheaper studio midi one

I really just want something that lets me noodle on a guitar with presets I make on soft synths and apparently it's really good for that. Learning piano/keyboard feels like too much of a hurdle.

I tried the Midi Guitar 2 but it was shit

i need convolvers with more utility !

ok boys, i got the new fl25 update.
The Ghoper tool is damn awesome, does exactly as told.
Tell the a.i. to create a preset and it will do. Now you can create any space, be it from a movie set or what ever.

Best option they add is to remove or add more channels in the master, this reduce heavily cpu usage.

included a new plugin, mobil rack, with tons of moduls you can mix up. For instruments and effects. It might look at first like nothing but this shit is actually huge. Low cpu usage with tons of options.

There are a few more plugins in the effect section i didnt test so far, had a short look at the new emphasy plugin, seems to be a new limiter?

listened to this in my car for the first time and the bass sounded like shit. how to make it sound chill like it sounds on my monitors?

https://vocaroo.com/1jAf3OAICJLU

>>127042757
you can modulate the size on serum 2's convolver, is that cool?

>>127044085
it is... it is... i have not serum 2'd yet though, unfortunately.
when i do i probably won't get shit done for a week or so though...

Glue

>compressor pseud

i'm doing mirchi test for you anon

>>127043763
i have the same problem
everyone tells me i need to treat my listening room but thats expensive and a pain in the ass

>>127047499
>>127043763
use your meters and references and get headphones sillies

>>127047521
i have headphones sony MDR 7506 but those pose other problems as well.

>>127047760
>other problems
Well you're supposed to be listening for one specific aspect. That's the point of having/learning multiple references.

Part of what makes your bass stick out is it just not aesthetically fitting, but the main thing is it's way too loud.
Like legitimately just turn it down 9-12 db.

FUCK YOU BOCHI YOU THINK YOU'RE YUI BUT YOU'RE NOT

https://vocaroo.com/1lddsVsUI63i

psa: im never using compression ever again

why do my mixes always suck?

Rate my lyrics
https://youtu.be/jH1RNk8954Q
Freestylo yeah straight from the top of my dome
As I rock, rock, rock, rock the microphone
Freestylo yeah straight from the top of my dome
As I c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-carry on

>>127048470
because you never use compression

I'm simply not updating past FL 21.

>>127049294
my mixes sucked way before i stopped using compression

>>127049301
This but FL 11

I just realised I'd been paying for a monthly Splice subscription for about two years without ever once using it. I'd slowly shifted to purely VST over sample-based music forgetting that I still had this thing active lmao. So if anyone wants to buy a Splice account with 1923 credits on it let me know.

>>127050421
>it you cancel your subscription you lose all your credits
>you can pause your subscription for 2 months and keep your credits but you won't be able to use them
What fucking kikes

>>127050421
Lol how much were you paying monthly for it?

>>127050453
$12.99 which is less than a tenner monthly. I can't believe I never checked to see if this thing was still going. I'll pay for one more round then pause the subscription and consider selling, so the person who has the account has three months to download whatever they want. There's also 1,476 already bought sounds so the total value of the account would be 3499 sounds. Seriously, if anyone is interested let me know otherwise it will just go to waste.

Ah, nevermind. The invoice has my name and address on it and you can see my card number. Well, if anyone has any Splice packs they want me to upload to catbox or something I am happy to do that.

>>127050499
I need some processed drum samples. ur a legend mate

>>127050421
download a 1tb ssd full of files
cancel
there yo go

>>127051780
Splice samples are of no use to me whatsoever.

>>127050421
>>127051796
If you make your own sounds you can still make use of foley, field recordings, vocals, and whatever else you can do sample manipulation sound design with.

bump

https://voca.ro/1dOX7OdNKRgf

Keeping anything as MIDI just annoys the piss out of me now actually like how are you not bouncing that shit down, editing and re-sampling bro come on

>>127053971
Commitment scares me

>>127054189
save as so you can go back

at some point it's not so much a lock-you-in thing and becomes a free-to-move-on thing so you can expand what's already there

>>127053971
I should definitely be doing this more often. Sometimes there's so much happening in the projects, the midi parts shit their pants and become completely out of time and delirious. Poor little guys never asked for this.

>>127050499
Bruz, I have been wanting Abducted Percussion by Sonic Collective. Can't find it anywhere to download for free. Would be epic if you could get that one. It has got some unique sounds in it I am interested in.

https://voca.ro/18vflNEkTeU3

>>127053971
>>127055004
I couldn't ever imagine doing this. I'm constantly going back and tweaking things, timing, note length, velocity/MIDI CC. I can take the lag with the benefit of being able to edit anything whenever you want. Plus, I like being able to watch everything "work", like a mini orchestra in my PC of synths and VSTs, rather than just playing a bunch of audio files.

>>127055130
Same

>>127055072
i like this one more
>>127036877
dope
>>127038739
gayass dope
>>127037532
>>127048134
>deleted
extremely gay

https://vocaroo.com/11tYTgMluKMV

>>127055321
sry i'll reup l8r

>>127055321
>i like this one more
Thanks!

>>127055130
I also agree but to ease the load on my processor, it's probably OK to finalise a midi part and bounce it

>>127042415
Sounds so good and inspiring!

https://vocaroo.com/13bev60Cdj4J

>>127055130
Those things can all be adjusted as audio- to greater precision even.
Beyond all the potential design benefits: if you want the highest precision when you get to doing the serious mix you should be printing.

https://voca.ro/1hIIwCdB40ao

Where should I start learning about production? sound design/synths basics or mixing basics?

>>127057508
Read pastebin like any other general you doofus

>>127057525
I read, that's why I'm asking.

WIP of arctic trip hop song
https://voca.ro/1o2LvFj6PiZb

for example this tiny little fade at the end of the sub here?
2 db of headroom.
(the main snare is pushed forward, that's why it's like that (the difference is very audible even if it doesn't look like a lot))

micro peaks everywhere. this is happening across the entire track.
buss limiting this safety clipper that "but anon told me ctz..."

no this is priority and it's much cleaner AND all of that can be pushed *much* further once you get all of this straight.

>>127057508
The pastebin is a decent starting point but also youtube has a plethora of resources. Some are sponsored but most will offer valuable insight to specific or broad subjects. Going through forums or reddit isn't a bad idea either. I'll occasionally visit r/audioengineering which has a lot of advanced and novice music producers. In this day and age, you can access almost any form of knowledge almost instantly. Just ask the questions you want to ask and you'll find your answers.

GAY (str8 up) huge rip off yk yk yk
so we can't do a whole lot with it but possibly re-re-re edit to somethingn new one day maybe.

https://vocaroo.com/15BYOfSxOplc

>>127058428
>https://voca.ro/1o2LvFj6PiZb
Theme for a nursery in the north pole.

>>127058428
very thin sound

no idea what im doing anymore
https://voca.ro/1GsBSKCpcXGg

>>127061560
and from before
ill never finish a track

https://voca.ro/1esxw62vjsDH

this is where the magic happens. my battlestation

>>127061982
i have that interface

/prod/ators, I think im finally learning how to eq

>>127059775
Heh, thanks for listening!

>>127060812
Yeah, I'm gonna work on the mix more today

his eyes were always closed

https://voca.ro/16Q1LYwdkv8m

>>127064226
The kick is too much
The piano has a bland tone, add something, chorus or a little delay reverb or highs
Also the piano sounds very midi as in you’ve drawn the notes in strictly on the beat, Try playing that melody and uses velocity and don’t quantise
You also need more variation, too much repetition
I’m guessing you know all this

>>127064402
yabba dabba doo

I am now on an iPad and didn’t realise every software costs money and torrenting doesn’t work
I will be getting Logic Pro
Turnado
Grand finale 2
Wavebox

>>127064402
Don't bother, that guy downloaded a silent hill themed sample pack a few weeks back, posted about it in one of these threads and has posted nothing but jigsaw songs that all sound exactly like that one since. Nothing's quantized or different because they are all just pre-processed samples.

>>127065148
Would somebody really do that..?
T b h with you any time I hear something ITT that isn't complete dogshit soundwise I immediately assume it's heavily sample based.

>>127064490
Korg Gadget

why did nobody break down how easy hardstylez were to do last time i looked it up that shit pissed me off so much.

bandpass>*diode* like jfc just say that instead of throwing all this convoluted shit and youtube slop at me what the fuck

https://vocaroo.com/1iJuEBME4HDq

yottos latest radio show has some decent stuff this week

so far my quest into not using compression has failed immensely and i admit defeat

>>127033925 (OP)
4chan rules

>he doesn't turn down the master fader to compensate for clipping

>>127068024
Actually I use a gain plugin to do that.

Do you use a maximizer / upward processor on the master?

>>127068105
i crank multiple saturators

>>127068105
Why the shit would you use upward dynamics on the master channel. It's the exact opposite of getting the max loudness out of your track.

I don't know enough about singing to understand how to create the harmony found in Alice in Chains songs between Jerry and Layne but I can sing and I have pitch shifters and shit. What would I have to set the pitch up or down to in order to reach their sound? I don't understand music theory enough to know what a fucking 3rd or 4th or minor interval or whatever is I just make what sounds good to my ears. Answer and I'll eat a ban to post nudes of picrel I tag teamed with my wife. 4'11 87lbs of easy emo pussy

>>127068105
>maximizer / upward processor
funny that's how i thought compressor worked because it made more sense to me that it only affects the signals that are below the threshold, so it can bring them up

>>127068105
some combination of EQ, hard clipper, saturator, or limiter.
(excluding "tone") stuff

anything else is noob shit or something you were supposed to do on your busses

https://voca.ro/1kxhgsaf0KrT

>>127068183
hold the root note on one track while dropping down some on the other. its minor 3rds and tritones generally.

>>127068183
I’ve asked this question many times, and thought it sounded like a perfect fourth but never checked. I have just asked ChatGPT and they say it’s that

>>127068183
there's not a single answer it changes you fucking goofball

pitch up 3, 4, or 7 semitones

>>127068994
He’s talking about their distinct signature harmonies which is a perfect fourth

broz i need to know the state of da kick bass thing
:thinking:

https://vocaroo.com/1h4ectL5MdQi

>>127070190
>https://vocaroo.com/1h4ectL5MdQi

https://vocaroo.com/19tlAFJJGUaW

idk... help?

>>127068042
Why do you need a plugin to bypass the fader to do the exact same thing as the fader?

How do I make my music beautiful?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QWI4H4_ik4

>>127048470
You aren't gain staging.

>>127070454
Because the master fader not being at 0 looks unprofessional

>>127070190
You are mentally ill and corrupted if you make and enjoy music like this.

>>127070503
Lol, I bet this bitch talks about capitalism and evil drumpf but says not a word on the degeneracy and corruption the jews have been unleashing on Western arts for over a century.

>>127070503
>Music production under capitalism
>shows a device made in China

Beginner questions: is it better to finish an idea with less than ideal sound design/selection, then go back and fix it all up after it's laid out, or do you make sure things sound at least somewhat good before moving on? I got stuck on a short loop trying to get things to fit in and around it and realised I probably could just move on and get more progress that way even if it sounds shit (muddy low ends, stuff clashing a little etc.), rather than bogging myself down in the details that early. Also, is that when it's best to even consider compression, when the full idea is there and you have a clue about when/why you want/need to use it?

>>127071030
All the professionals do it

https://voca.ro/1ldKkk4y0A4F

Shitty old beat I dug up today. I was trying to ape Lorn.

im going crazy
https://voca.ro/1hao6Z3iy6vO

I wanna get into beat production and learn to rap. What are the essential (midi) instruments to use? Do I need an Akai sampler? I wanna go in the direction of combining more up-lifting lyrics with ethno/traditional instruments and classic hiphop drums.

>>127072342
You don't technically *need* anything other than a computer and some headphones or speakers.
Most beats nowadays are just made in FL Studio, but some still prefer the hardware samplers for workflow reasons.
If you really want to go that route and you're not hurting too much for money, go ahead, it's a perfectly fine way of making beats (with its own pros and cons).
If you have budget constraints, prioritize listening gear such as monitoring speakers (with an interface to connect them) and/or headphones, then maybe a midi keyboard if you want to play the notes instead of clicking them in (better with drum pads for obvious reasons).
If you want to rap you will probably want a microphone too, but at the start you can use your phone I guess (sounds like shit but you're likely not getting signed on day one lol, so if your budget forces you to choose, I recommend the above first).
I'm assuming you already have a computer.

>>127072071
i fuck with this, finish/recreate it

Now your music is only as good as your sounds. Despite everything being available online and nothing is hidden, there are no more Daniel Johnstons, nobody gives a shit enough to listen past 1 millisecond to the actual song. If it sounds like shit then why would anyone care. The fact that anyone can produce anything that sounds like what just 25 years ago would have been top quality, expensive, polished music with just a laptop and headphones means there is no more charming demo finds, nobody cares, there is too much other high quality sounding music. A large part of what made people attached to an artist like Daniel Johnston is the "find" itself. It took more effort or luck to come across something that deep so naturally you would give it more of your attention. The "find" is gone, you don't have to know anything about anything to stumble upon something, there is no effort involved with it so why would you care?

and the deeper down the algorithm I go, the more I actually resent the music. Why am I seeing this? This guy must be a shill. Israel made me listen to this dog shit.

Lyrically gifted anons what the fuck does your brain operate like in order to get shit written? I put together my own music doing bass, drums, guitars all myself and then when it comes time to write the fuckin words I am blanked out. I can put a melody together but when I pick words to blabber over it until something clicks it all sounds boring as shit. All sounds cliche, overused, dumb, unemotive, just crap. I can listen to great singers blurt out absolutely retarded lines but it sounds good but here I am constantly worrying about how stupid the words are that I cannot deliver any sort of performance with them and want to change them up but feel like I can never find the right ones. I have gotten a dozen songs or so that have lyrics I could sing and feel and be happy with but they were about real shit in my life and are so completely unique to me and the person they're about/for (It's always my wife except two songs bitching about my exs) that I don't release them to streaming since I doubt they would connect with anyone else. I enjoy those songs, that's not the issue; I want to write some normie bullshit lyrics so I can put stuff out that is vague and ambiguous so the average listener and (You) can hear it and try to act like it fucking means something about your life or the world or some shit.

>>127071239
The first way is the common duh answer.
However that answer takes for granted that somebody would have the foresight to know what it would sound like in the future and how to arrange for that.

As a novice, doing the sound design or mixing early on will bring up “problems” and situations that you wouldn’t have in mind if you arrange while ignoring all
that.
So yep there’s basically no real answer

Except actually THE IDEA is key.
Whether THE IDEA is heavily sound design dependent or not dictates a lot.
SOCIETY does not bring this up when you ask these sorts of questions though

>>127073509
>what the fuck does your brain operate
I’m just extremely creative and very cultured and more cool in a way that can’t be taught sorry

>>127073509
>All sounds cliche, overused, dumb, unemotive, just crap
>I want to write some normie bullshit lyrics so I can put stuff out that is vague and ambiguous so the average listener and (You) can hear it and try to act like it fucking means something about your life or the world or some shit.
sounds like you're already doing it and complaining about nothing. just continue to write about your wife, anon, don't worry about what normalfags want. What they want they already have in such excess that you're dealing with 'drop of piss in the piss ocean' levels of unnoticed if you're actively trying to compete and find mainstream success.

>>127073509
>I want to write some normie bullshit lyrics so I can put stuff out that is vague and ambiguous so the average listener and (You) can hear it and try to act like it fucking means something about your life or the world or some shit.
yeah because obviously that's what people want. (pic rel: clearly not the case)
maybe you need to break it down further. perhaps your understanding or way of thinking about what makes lyrics "good" or meaningful is fundamentally shaky.

Maybe i'm imagining it but I feel like the taste in this general has gotten considerably worse (boring) in the past year or two

>>127074000
It's because I stopped posting music

>>127072071
Pretty good for a "shitty old beat". Can definitely hear Lorn's style, but it also reminds me a bit of Danger's July 2013 EP
https://youtu.be/jIHowCt7yAM

I still have to write some lyrics on the drum and bass part and finish the rap part lyrics. But after resting and getting rid of ear fatigue. My mix feels off, before I continue to finish the track i would like mixing advice. (please keep it to reaper's native jsfx plugins, I am a total noob to mixing)

https://vocaroo.com/194wsnnOiaEM

Also yeah, I am genrehopping, so this is gonna be a nightmare to mix

>>127074423
Hop on Audioz and find the Ozone 11 plugin, use the helper feature (It's not really AI it just pretends to be) and when it finishes running it'll give you a standard set of genre targets it can auto-adjust your track to on the left side menu, it'll probably set it by default to rap/hip hop but try all the options there as a starter point then fuck around a while. It has undo/redo so you can go back if you hate the change you made, and you can use Audiolens (another program, free on developer site) to record bits of songs while you're playing them on your computer and create audio profiles from them to set as the 'target' instead of using the standard genre presets. It works pretty well for a starter point. It isn't magic but if you suck at mixing then it probably has better ideas than you do for beginning.

>>127074542
I am making vocaloid stuff. Also, if you heard my track, I dont think it falls under any genre. Wont this just ruin my mix when the parts have to feel more intense/intimate?

>>127074619
>>127074423
>finish the rap part

If you identify your track by a genre personally then I'm going to assume the program will too. Fuck if I know what genre to call your stuff, I don't make or listen to anything like it so I'm just offering casual input. The plugin I mentioned has a dozen or so plugins built into it which covers most things (EQ, Gain, Limiter, Compression) and then has some ear candy extras. It's a basic (Expensive if paid) all-in-one that should help a lot. If EQ and Compression etc are going to kill the song then something is wrong with the song to start as those and the other available options are used in basically all music nowadays.

>>127074423
>>127074423
>https://vocaroo.com/194wsnnOiaEM
>basically, I'm here, buh-mah sOULSsinaland far eh-weeeEeeEYEEeYEYEAAA

*physically


and yes, the point of that song is to mock a dreamy indie game developer friend of mine who thinks he has some transcendental idea.

>>127074700
thanks for the advice anyway anon. Appreciate it, although I would have preferred something more specific like being in control of the eq and copression and knowing where to exactly put it in which part.

>>127074815
*physically


and yes, the idea of that song song came to me to mock a dreamy indie game developer friend of mine who thinks he has some transcendental idea and his game will blow the internet when it comes out,

>finally ready to render first project
>spent a month learning new techniques and refining the mix
>make sure everything is right and render it
>plug headphones directly into PC
>open the .wav in media player
>it's completely fucked
>flip out, just want to move on from the project by this point
>spend an hour trying to figure out what I did wrong
>finally realize it's the goddamn AuDiO eNhAnCeMeNt bullshit that came with the Dell windows installation
>utterly burying the entire frequency range in a an unreal metric fuckton of ultra mega bass doodoo
>turn it off, render is perfectly fine
I went back and tightened up the bass on the track even more and the effect is reasonable at this point but jesus fucking christ wtf.Very interested to see how the master (just LANDR, whatever it's my first project) handles it. It sucks that we have to take into account people EQing the ever loving shit out of their music into absurd imbalances.

I have to redo my user library again

The old ways are obsolete

>>127074996
That is too specific and unique to the individual to answer. Ever watch those 'X amount of producers mix the same song' type videos? If not, I encourage you to watch at least one of those cringe fests just to give you an idea of how different a song can sound by messing with dials/faders to someone's particular preference. This is why the music process has steps
>Artist makes song and records it
>Mixer mixes it
>Another mixer comes through and mixes it again
>And again
>Again
>Repeat until everyone in the band and the studio techs are happy with it

Everyone hears things differently so you quite literally just have to fuck around and find out. Mixing is 99% just doing random shit until you find the magic.

>>127075123
>Mixing is 99% just doing random shit until you find the magic.
not true and awful advice

>>127075038
i like 'basically' more. the song is atrocious, anon, i don't care what the concept is.

>>127074423
Vocal has harshness around 10k.
Vocal might too loud, try volume adjustment or cut in a large bell around 1.3k
Chaotic drum part harsh around 5k.
Look into sidechaining the drums against the background (pad, violin, whatever has all that reverb). They will punch a bit better, unless it's a creative decision to have the drums mesh and fade into the back as the pads take over.
Tried to apply quick fixes using above with just EQ. (forgot to volume match):
https://vocaroo.com/1aEIdqut8Rmb

>>127075123
I have been watching boomer engineers who go a lot in detail and add some obscure saturation plugin or some shit. I came here because most people have given me very minimal advice to get my shit done instead of plugin hunting

>>127075166
>the song is atrocious

general rule of thumb to follow in life is depending on public reaction, you decide whether your content is intentionally masterful, or a trolling ragebait. I call it the schrodingers retard.

>>127075176
>I think the tempo got fucked up when you exported this to your daw, shit is stretched like a pregnant woman

>>127075246
oh fuck one sec

>>127075271
>>127075246
https://vocaroo.com/1icDVtTgQU12

>>127075602
>https://vocaroo.com/1icDVtTgQU12
holy shit anon a lot of the harsh high problems are solved. what exactly did you do, you dont even have the stems.

what kind of music should i make to save /prod/?

Should I use max4live devices? I heard they break easily and I haven't touched them at all in 5 years of producing.

been working on this short snippet of some hard techno. yes it is very short still working on composition but hows the sound design so far?

https://vocaroo.com/15Brxtq7qOiI

>>127076319
Serviceable. Not enough movement to keep me interested personally but maybe we just listen to different stuff.

Whatever resonance or distortion you're adding to the noise in the high end is awful though.

lol sampling the nosferatu movie
i wish i were that cool
https://youtu.be/Ru282rWTvM8

>>127076388
cringe

>device is fully functional and stable BUT will remove your ability to ctrl+z

lol

>>127076345
There's a lot of saturation and Overdrive. Honestly it really is missing a bunch and there's no real Groove. What I was trying to nail was low end response really. Been trying to challenge myself using my old headphones so im happy that the low end came out good because I was mixing blind there

>>127076319
I never understood the appeal of repetitive edm, maybe it sounds good in the context of a club where people are dancing.

>>127076755
Thats literally the appeal bro. Listening to some banging tunes on a huge system surrounded by like minded people.

>>127076755
It's just dumb shit for NPCs. You will not find a single sentient being listening to and enjoying that shit.

>>127076755
>>127076900
>>127077001
It's dogshit for subhuman normies who can't appreciate REAL art.
Western culture has fallen.
Remember when musicians played actual INSTRUMENTS?
The Beatles? Pink Floyd? Ever heard of them?
Culture has degraded so much I bet zoomers can't even appreciate a real melody or simple things like diatonic harmony.
It's all just noise now.
You can guess who's behind all of that.

>>127077106
Post nose rabbi

>>127077117
No faggot it's YOUR PEOPLE behind this you faggots ruined music

truly unfortunate

https://vocaroo.com/15k1tiBaS2ZI

push on. on . on..,,

>>127077305
Cute anon but r/edmproduction is that way

>>127077508
i have so much to say based on such a short, fake-innocuous, ignorant post

>>127077545
Then step up your shitposting game then, faggot.

>>127077545
I am all ears fren

:3
Your other gabber post reminded me of music my friend in high school used to listen to. mmhmm
>>127077508
This post has the same energy as people who get confused when their post gets word filtered and they double down and still fuck up.

>>127077648
shitposting is shitposting, not serious-response wall of text posting or flaming

where can i find a partner to make bass music?

>>127078108
I'm right here; I just need to save up enough money to be able to retire from my day job first.

>>127078248
okay but i can't wait forever

>>127078108
Not here. Oldfags in this general have been making dogshit for years.

>>127078283
damn i just got here so i don't really know who's who.
where should i look instead?

>>127078264
>forever
That would be a cool duo name: AEN2.
エイ・イー・エン・に=永遠に

any good start-to-finish mix videos i should check out?

>>127078582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ_0vca-jFg

>>127078894
pretty cool but i wouldn't mind someone explaining the rationale behind the mixing either.

https://vocaroo.com/1Pes4Y18KZMW

How to improve this

>>127078965
needs a bass

>>127072273
actually quite cool

>>127078965
scrap it and write something good instead

>>127053971

>>127079032
literally me

>>127055130
This, nigga. I usually don't find reasons to bounce things vs. run the midi straight through effects outside of wanting to do particular things like timestretch or working with a really timing sensitive effect like having an LFO controlling another effect for example which could potentially make things sound much different if you shifted the midi input slightly in time (so you'd want to line it up to get the sound you want, bounce, then move it back to where it's supposed to be lol)

>>127079098
i had to stop reading this post due to the lack of punctuation. my mind ran out of breath

>>127079127
I like how he had the proper noun comma for the gamer word though.
(when i eschew punctuation and grammar it is intentional and cute and cool! uwu)

>>127079127
lol understandable in hindsight

in the depths of the fog

https://voca.ro/11ZDXAJGo5ty
https://voca.ro/16eScxik52jT

>>127043763
Car test is literally the final boss, pretty much every track I work on I'm in love with until I listen to it in the car and then I end up hating it and changing it until I hate it even more, and eventually 84 mixes later end up giving up and going with the original version kek

>>127079281
holy shit, these are great! i prefer the second one. you could use a solo guitar melody, and the melodic parts are lost in the mix

>>127079397
thank you

>>127079281
Good shit, bro. Instinctively started headbanging so that's a good sign. You thinking of adding any vocals?

>>127072273
Nice nice. Moar

>>127078894
so many lazy errors in that, but sort of useful regardless.

>>127033925 (OP)
not a single good guitar was seen that day

except the tele

>>127073624
>Whether THE IDEA is heavily sound design dependent or not dictates a lot.
This does make a lot of sense. I suppose(?) my idea warrants the sound design/mixing as I go along cause it's all underwatery atmosphere and effects, so I can't imagine fleshing it out without those kinds of themed sounds to lead it along (at least that's how I am choosing to see it). As you said, though, I'm fully expecting it to be a clusterfuck by the end and a nightmare to fix, if not impossible for me at my current level, but it's a good learning exercise at least.

Soniccouture makes some cool things, damn.

>made something almost two minutes long instead of my usual 10 second loop bullshit

I'm getting better

>>127077001
Retarded take. I find good techno to be almost meditative, but I'm not talking about that overly distorted 140BPM BANG BANG shit.

>>127076755
One of the reasons I like trance is because it is less repetitive. A good trance track progressives, adding and removing elements, and then there's the breakdown section too, it's a fun journey

I am going to use the sound of Ableton cracking when there is an overloaded CPU in a track ©.

I've been in music for a long time but just got into the engineering side of it. I made a somewhat facetious country song as a shakedown, how's the mix? I had it mastered through LANDR just to see how that was
https://voca.ro/1bxH3GETbLr3

>>127088325
>how's the mix?
It's not good man

>>127088435
I'm not shocked - how would you improve it?

>>127055061
https://limewire.com/d/gkb5t#YjAMON3eMK

Here you go man. Sorry for the wait.

>>127088555
First post the raw mix without putting it through some shitty AI mastering service so we can judge it properly.

>>127088325
I would start with EQing the vocals. Sounds like there is still a lot of lows and low-mids in there that should be taken out completely. Also more compression on the vocals.
Also the sample rate seems lower than what normally is expected from vocaroo, check the sample rate you are exporting at from your DAW.

>>127088734
Holy fuck, brother thanks! I have never seen such a legend in this general.

>>127088746
https://voca.ro/11lYyhc7iBmx
>>127088824
I think what you're referring to regarding the sample rate was done by the master.
With the vocals, I wanted them to be quite upfront, I was experimenting with treating them more like pop vocals in that way. I am surprised you recommend more compression, there's a good amount. I did let it breathe a little bit in the chorus, I wanted to have a back and forth thing going with the 1176 and LA2A to accentuate the cadence of the vocals, if that makes any sense.

>>127089013
I'll need to listen properly with my gear later, but the levels don't sound right to me. Like that lead guitar is just too overbearing and maybe too boxy (but I can't say for definite just listening through my phone). Vocals are alright in the start then get totally drowned out the next minute. The levels are just all over the place. What helped me was A/Bing with a track similar to yours. Put it in your project and bypass the master and bring the gain down so it roughly matches your track. Try to listen to the levels, frequency response, where compression is used, where panning might help. And then after that listen again to your track and perfect it from there. And use SPAN.

>>127088824
>the sample rate seems lower than what normally is expected from vocaroo

Both vocaroos from the LANDR master and the original posted in >>127089013 are 44.1kHz sample rater, maybe you meant bit rate?
But even then Vocaroo applies a variable bit rate based on frequency content and dynamics so comparing original (117kbps average) with the LANDR version (124kbps average) doesn't really tell the whole story

>>127089099
I'll try that, thanks.
The first half of the chorus has that lead guitar doing the same melody as the vocal which I tried to finesse into working. I knew it wasn't good arrangement but to be honest I didn't like any alternative, like playing the octave instead. I figured it would at least be a way to learn to fix less than ideal arrangements.

>>127079281
Dayum! Really awesome, I could almost hear Trent Reznors vocals on this

https://vocaroo.com/11yRVAMXMirA

is there a way to disable take lanes in ableton because WHAT THE FUCK

ruins my fucking auto zoom every time and they don't move when you shift the actual audio

>>127090441
Are you still on Live 11?

>>127090729
ya :(

>>127090856
Uh... yeah... that's going to be problematic. They still refer to the main channel as the master channel. We can't have that. I'm going to have to have you write a GDS report about this.

I've been looking on youtube and google but can't find anything. Are there any established texts or tutorials to do with how to create a differentiate an upstrum and downstrum sound when emulating a string instrument sound in digital synthesis?

>>127090195
so sick

>>127091337
lower notes first on downstrum, higher on up

>>127091379
Sorry I think I used the wrong word - I mean when the same note on one string is plucked up and down e.g. in quick succession

>>127091516
>in quick succession
Tremolo

for some reason i spent years only using volcano 2 instead of just using EQ Eight or Auto Filter and I deeply regret it

mf the morph is RIGHT there
you don't have to fight your plugins just to automate a peak filter just use the fucking EQ that filter isn't special jfc just add the distortion later you retard

uh uh
https://vocaroo.com/1o1uQ7d1ptSx

Just found this Casio MT-68 at a thrift store for $3 tonight. One of the most fun things I have fucked around with in a long. Hooked it up at home and this is one of the first things I played, pure improv. Let it build, it is worth it if you like Krautrock type music.

https://voca.ro/1cIeRUwRiT8p

>>127092625
lmaooo nice find bro
sounds like shit but in a sovl way

can't tell...,,,
bleep bloop instead of wub wub..,,,

https://vocaroo.com/17m91mzofLz0

noob with no money here.
If I wanted to record my cat meowing, then compose a song using the cat's meow like a midi or piano key, what sort of software do i use?

sort of like pic related

>https://vocaroo.com/14k3TilmsmYi
yes theres a meme section in the middle i haven't finished yet. yes youre laughing, but is it good laughing?

>>127095494
Milky Tracker

>>127095494
record cat
send audio file to computer
install trial of literally any DAW
drag audio file into program
trim silence from audio
go to piano roll
put notes in
tada

>>127095558
I like the various sounds/melodies/harmonies you got going on here, nicely layered botanica-esque stuff . Hate the vocals, but there's not actually anything wrong with them per se, I just hate these splice-sounding lyrics/vocals and I think they cheapen everything. The ending and build to it from 1:20 onwards is really nice. Mid section sounds like a DS game shitting itself on a menu screen.

>>127096301
thanks for the feedback.
i was actually unsure whether I'd keep the final section in this track since it's actually the start to another track I started on today, but glad you like it

Just use samples from splice whatever
Unironically

Nobody cares outside of this thread or some autists

Make good music

>>127096448
who are you talking to, you dribbling retard?

>>127096453
Everyone ITT fuck face

>>127091516
Maybe if you used a vocoder to blend a strummed instrument with the non one

Still getting used to the Vienna symphonic library sounds.
https://voca.ro/1lioiYoQWmc2

https://youtube.com/shorts/HhWxbhNe0Y8

>>127096490
>the non one
Huh?

>>127068183
not sure if man's ass or jailbait

burr
https://vocaroo.com/11VMZVwFvWAu

>>127096925
The non strummed instrument4

>>127096448
>t. soulless splice loop spammer
Everyone can tell mate

>>127095605
thanks
>>127095602

Does Ableton have any advantages over Reaper for writing/recording music for rock bands (guitar, bass, drums, [maybe piano])?
I'm leaning towards Reaper because it works on Linux, but part of me likes the idea of being able to record riffs/ideas into blocks and easily mixing and matching those ideas in Live's session view.

>>127097324
I'm not sure you mean? I mean one note plucked up and down on the same instrument

This MT-68 is so good.

https://voca.ro/1kxcFdtCBxLW

>>127099782
better effects and a bunch of stuff that won't matter if your sound is more out of the box

>>127100046
>>127091337
convoluted non answer don't do that

think about it physically:
it's the same exciter at a different angle so the difference is there but not.... THERE. it's just a random contrast from a downstroke.

if you were seeking to emulate this with FM or whatever this would be included in the "randomness" category of just shifting the operator or fm amount slightly up or down; or if you're on the real shit you would be alternating the noise source or its filter ; i've never used a synth that lets you actually specify "every other note/gate" though so differentiating up or down strum specifically isn't really a thing on synths though.

really need to take a day just to make a million unique impulse responses but aaaaaaaa

also ty to whoever brought up pastofuturereverbs

https://vocaroo.com/11LvmSQA5DY3

Anyone used sumo to come up with sounds? Can you just ask it to give you a duck quack for instance or a cool drum loop

>>127100630
*Suno

>>127100165
Right. I was trying to think physically, just not very good at it yet. I was thinking of cutting the tail of the preceding note when the transient component of the next note hits to emulate the string coming almost to a stop suddenly as the pick/finger touches the string for the second note, but I don't know where to find out if there are still residual vibrations from the first note that are meant to influence the body/tail of the second note (and subsequent notes, at a fast enough tempo) in some way e.g. that might be emulated with a careful filter effect.

>never used a synth that lets you actually specify "every other note/gate" though
Yeah I figure I'll have to make each individual pluck from scratch and arrange them, rather than creating a virtual synth patch that has this mechanism as a live performance-controllable aspect

>>127100789
>residual vibrations
resonant body so technically yes. usually people resort to small size reverb, though that tends to be for violin instruments.
somebody told me about pasttofuture reverbs a few threads ago and I’ve been using some of those impulse responses on… wubs.
they do sound appropriate for guitar though.

idk what you’re doing but this is all pretty overkill if using a sample library is an option, or if your goal is to actually sound realistic lol

>>127100828
I'm aiming to run the untreated sounds through analogue guitar equipment and rock distortion/chorus etc. to texture it up and record either amp with mic for room sound feel, or back into audio interface, will see which suits best, so if it's more of a rock sound I don't know that the resonant body thing will be relevant
Aiming hyper-real not realistic btw
but thanks for the info

>>127100630
Adobe firefly has na ai sound effect generator,

>>127100568
>deleted
STOP IT! *sprays water in your face*
*squirt* *squirt*

>>127100946
my posts are exclusive limited time Very Rare Only

trying out the hellrazer guitar vst edgy name but it sounds pretty cool

https://voca.ro/1mi5oijEmSrE

https://voca.ro/1goEvLiR62FY

>>127099782
warping audio in ableton is pretty cool

>>127100630
no but might try it to make silent hill noises

>>127101105
you need to stop deleting vocas i cant listen to it now (sad)

Why does saint petersburg have such a good music scene?
https://youtu.be/CAi_Jsta9DY?si=2wXxDb7OMk82XaNK

>>127101883
>Nu-gaze music
>Song literally just "Slowdive" in Russian
Lol it isn't bad though.

I win

>>127102003
5’5 115 ._.

>>127101986
Sorry

burr
https://vocaroo.com/15J4ZQzP8Kxj
>>127101578
METAL = COOLEST

>>127101986
>>Nu-gaze music
>>Song literally just "Slowdive" in Russian
nothing wrong with either of these things

it was just that noisey bird soundsss

https://vocaroo.com/11LSC8J1gZlS

>>127103803
Nice. Snagged before it's gone.
Was hoping for real bird sounds :(
New KPP dropped a day or two ago.

>>127103889
damnit

KPP?
My backlog is filling up to fast I haven’t even listened to the new Biebs yet there’s too much heat dropping to keep up man

>>127103917
>new Biebs
Oh shit, I didn't know about that one. Gotta check it.
KPP = Kyary Pamyu Pamyu

mmm just finished listening to SWAG. It was just okay. Felt like it had pretty heavy 80s/early 90s slow jam influence. All the tracks were pretty unremarkable with nothing really standing out as unique/especially interesting. Biebs has a good voice, for sure, but that's about all I took from it.
I also saw that Thursday released a new track. Geoff is way better at singing, but the soul has been sucked out of the music and it feels like it's just following a standard template. No experimental guitar riffs or rhythms.
At least that (relatively) new Taking Back Sunday music is good.
>YOU'RE GONNA GET S'OLD
>YOU'RE GONNA GET SOO~~~ O~~LD

>>127104453
>not clocking
it's sunday baka

>>127104478
I'm just standing on business, bro.
Just thought of a funny band/artist name: Tuesdays with Maury.

>>127104819
midwest emo with occasional SESH style trap interludes with more obvious sampling of the show.
close friends and occasional collaborators with Tigers Jaw until the lead singer was accused of sexual misconduct by like 30 different girls.
so sad...

>>127101578
>https://voca.ro/1mi5oijEmSrE
I'm more interested in these drums, they sound sick

>>127104876
On point. That would have fit in perfectly in that period.
Damn, now do I need start an emo side project to relive my college days?

>>127101578
hey trent how are you achieving such a large and in charge drum sound?

>>127104453
it started off so strong wtf happened :|
i actually really loved a few songs but overall... yeah

i've started using the maag eq2 on my busses and it works quite nicely. any other simple eqs i should be made aware of?

Bitwig

>>127106643
I use the Maag EQ4 on everything when mixing. Highly recommend.

>>127106643
Neumann w495
Pultec
Manley Massive Passive

They all have plugin emulations.

anything but pro-q is snake oil and skill issue

>>127109209
True, but sometimes it is nice to have a really limited set of EQ parameters with no spectrum visualization which forces you to actually listen what is happening. Also something with steps instead of infinite adjustability forces you to make a decision.

>>127110071
>needing to be “forced” to listen or be decisive
this falls under the umbrella of “skill issue”

>>127110097
And when my dick doesn't get fully hard when looking at your moms ass is that a skill issue?

>>127110165
That is literally the definition of a skill issue.
Homosexuality? Erectile dysfunction?
You are a lesser man.

i narrate and talk out my decision making like i'm streaming and explaining my thought process to keep people from being bored and slightly help the people who paid for access to my streams for some reason

this helps me think everything through and remain conscious of why i'm doing what i'm doing (not entering zombie auto-pilot mode)

What are a couple Renoise techniques you guys have learned that makes your workflow better? I've decided to utilize phrasing more, but I am annoyed about needing to copy the sample again so it isn't phrased

learn granular, nerd

https://vocaroo.com/1j2u5U39DUrp

>>127112041
Groovin in G has some good videos about Renoise, but I've been too lazy to try out the techniques myself. I just sleep.

>>127112104
Yeah, I've tried out some of his stuff before but it never really helps me in my cases. The Z command is probably the most useful thing I've learned but it's still a bit convoluted for me to integrate for what I've been making lately. I'm really into a naive breakbeat style with subtle arrangements currently, much like what CDR does

xDdd

>>127112794
haha oh yesss the update to the famous bunny picture that we needed in... 2015....

Why is a B major 10th as hard to reach as an F major 11th? FUCK YOU B MAJOR! AHHHHHHHH

>>127112904
it's ur just BAD

>>127112914
I don't think any amount of stretching is going to get me there ;_;

Minimoog or Prophet 10?

>>127113358
Prophet 10

New thread
>>127113514
>>127113514
>>127113514