Thread 127072702

A refrain you often see here is 'but you should have heard how bad popular music was before Elvis and rock and roll'.
Do you think many people who grew up listening to Connie Francis came to the opinion that rock and roll and especially the explosion of 60's rock was better music than what they grew up listening to or do almost all people just always like the music of their youth the best?

>>127072702 (OP)
she looks like a whitened eartha kitt. share a song of hers pls. how did she pass?

>>127072702 (OP)
Connie Francis and Brenda Lee had a lot more coolness about them than the previous 50s pop stuff.
But not 40s and 30s. It had nothing to do with generations. Just that the 50s specifically sucked until Elvis.

>>127072724
Influence of R&R. It could be described as a bridge between the pre-rock singers and the Beatles generation.

Yes who’s sorry now is a bitter acerbic, adult song for adults. Now it’s party USA, me I’m awesome sort of shit

>>127072771
One of the more interesting developments ever because Connie had been recording for MGM for 2-1/2 years without a single charting hit until that came out in early '58. It's also all the more interesting that MGM let her go that long with no hits because labels usually didn't give you that kind of leeway.

>>127072724
it's quite funny that they're considered contemporaries despite the fact that Brenda was a lot younger in fact actually younger than any of the Beatles but like Connie her pop career flamed out when the Beatles came. at least Brenda was able to transition to country while Connie never did anything of importance again.

Thanks Connie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dadmm4Zp0k

>>127072862
>while Connie never did anything of importance again
lol she made a disco album in '78 but the label didn't release it in the US only Euros got that one

>>127072878
She talks like she sings. Cute.

>>127072702 (OP)
loved how she sang Tennessee Waltz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GWDgirgsq4

So before Connie MGM had their "other" Italian girl singer Joni James but Joni never quite got as big and ultimately left music entirely in the 60s. By the end she was mostly just aping Connie's sound anyway. Personally I like Joni's voice better but she was also pretty damn ugly and looked like a cave troll which must have limited her marketability.

>>127072949
>pretty damn ugly and looked like a cave troll which must have limited her marketability.
Dude...what? Are you trolling yourself?
They were both cute.

zoomers only know her for pretty little baby
millennials and xers only know her from the song at the end of Jurassic Bark

>>127073095
I've never seen Jurassic Park, believe it or not.
Dinosaurs are fake and gay.

>>127073121
no, Jurassic Bark, the Futurama episode where Fry discovers his dog but instead of bringing him back to life he leaves him fossilized and we watch the dog spend the rest of his life waiting for Fry while I Will Wait For You plays

>>127073136
Oh, shit.. I didn't catch that. I vaguely recall that now. Now I'm sad.

>>127072702 (OP)
Her voice was hot. RIP, Connie.

>>127072949
James recorded the original version of "You Belong To Me" on an indie label but Jo Stafford basically ran away with that song. She was primarily nightclub pop up to about '55 and then followed the changing trends by pandering to teenagers.

She died only in 2021 and I don't remember /mu/ ever mentioning it though.

>>127072862
Connie recorded basically everything at some point--teen pop, standards, showtunes, R&B, exotica, pop country etc while Brenda was really a one-sound singer. MGM gave her and her production team a lot of freedom to do whatever as long as they generated pop hits. Many of the B-sides and album only cuts are more interesting than the play-it-safe hits.

>>127072702 (OP)
She originally did a demo for Columbia, Mitch Miller rejected her because he thought she was too ethnic-looking and fugly and not marketable. Of course he sorely lived to regret that after she made MGM unholy amounts of money. In fact after her contract was up for renegotiation in 1959 Miller begged her to sign with Columbia but MGM gave her a platinum-plated deal to keep her.

>>127073434
He thought Connie _wasn't_ hot? Oh well good she didn't sign with CBS because I don't think anyone needed her recording "The Fish."

>>127073480
I think he was looking for more of a blonde white girl ala Doris Day.

>>127073362
SiriusXm’s Holiday Traditions used to play a good bit of Stafford and she killed. Christmas Blues, I Love The Winter Weather, It Happened In Snow Valley. Hell of a voice.

>>127073480
>>127073491
He was an insecure Jew that hated his own ethnicity and thought this is what middle America hated. They always did this. Their own neuroses created half of their problems.

>>127073362
Dean Martin and Patti Page covered the song as well but their versions are bland and nobody remembers them.

>>127073480
By which I mean this song. Yes, this is the ultimate Mitch Miller slop record and this chick was born in 1927 and is still alive apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLOqTIRMEmM

>>127073561
yeah man, just imagine Connie Francis could have signed with them and recorded this thing instead

>>127073561
>>127073515
Stafford was based out in LA and her and her husband mostly self-produced their music so they were largely safe from Uncle Mitch's influence. Everything at Columbia's New York studio went through him though.

>>127073561
That dumbass let a lot of talent slip from his grasp. He also lost the Everly Brothers; they cut one record on Columbia, he decided "nah" and then they went and became superstars on other labels instead.

>>127072862
Brenda still had some initial difficulty being accepted by Nashville because they pigeonholed her as a pop/rock singer.

>>127073843
It's too bad she didn't have actual mafia connections. Would've been cool if they put a hit on that guy that assaulted her.

>>127073869
No but her brother got snuffed in 1981 because he snitched to the FBI in a mob investigation. He was shot dead on the front porch of his house in New Jersey and they never found out who did it.

>>127073890
Damn... Connie's got a tragic story.

>>127073805
She had some surprisingly dirty songs despite being underage for most of them.

>>127073890
that was during the era when the Feds went hellofamonkey on the Mafia

Damn. Had to check if she was actually dead. May her memory be a blessing.

RIP

People underestimate how big she was, easily the most popular female singer of the first half of the 60's alongside Brenda Lee

>>127074041
She almost had the Billboard all to herself after the pop girls who ruled the early 50s like Page, Brewer, Clooney, Day etc fizzled out and there wasn't much competition, just short-lived teen idols and pop crossovers by non-pop people like Wanda Jackson, Skeeter Davis etc

>>127074017
Those early records were kind of generic jazz pop that didn't stand out in a very overcrowded format at that time and they had no hooks so they weren't going to get airplay. After she got some hooks and re-oriented to teen pop she finally succeeded on the Billboard.

>>127072771
Who's sorry now and Everybody's somebody's fool.. beautiful songs that both hit number 1

>>127072918
Also did "I Really Don't Want To Know", an alright rendition of that song.

>>127072702 (OP)
Ugly old karen
Bye Bye

when my uncle was a kid in the 70s he lived in LA in the same neighborhood as Connie Francis. he'd see her driving around sometimes in her custom hot pink and red Lincoln Mark IV. of course nobody ever thought Italians had any taste.

>>127073397
>Connie recorded basically everything at some point--teen pop, standards, showtunes, R&B, exotica, pop country etc
i saw an interview with her in the early 90s and she said she loved 2 live crews debut and was working with them on a rap album

And to think I'd bet Frankie Valli would die first.

>>127072702 (OP)
It's nice that she got to see her song have a resurgence in her last days. desu though all the new attention probably stressed her out and killed her lol

Literally who?

>>127074203
The news reports have it that she had been hospitalized for a hip fracture and her last few weeks were not very nice to put it kindly.

I still remember her from The Jack Benny Program when they did a skit about Foster Stevens.

>>127074089
Skeeter Davis had a super cute voice but she was one weird lady who had a lot of mental issues.

>Davis's stage name came about because her grandfather dubbed her "Skeeter" when she was a girl due to her habit of running around frantically "like a mosquito."

So that was an indirect way of saying he molested her, right?

>>127074269
You must fantasise about being molested a lot if that's what you get from a simple nickname
https://youtu.be/q7RUjXf9wR0?si=0C2z63MJw8AXOc3Y

At least I don't think she was being exploited by relatives to the extent Frankie Valli is. Poor guy.

>>127074041
no less than 43 Billboard hits from 1958 to '67

>>127072702 (OP)
Christgau had a weird hateboner for "Vacation."

>>127074104
Some of her early 55-57 songs aren't on Youtube for some reason.

>>127072702 (OP)
she deserves a sticky more than XXXTentacion did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs1OgvRNBkE

Connie's first single from '55. You see how it's generic jazz pop done by countless other people and didn't do anything unique so it's no surprise that her early records attracted no attention.

https://musify.club/track/connie-francis-oh-please-make-him-jealous-7960374

The A-side of the record which wasn't on Youtube. A nice ballad but it has no hooks.

>>127072702 (OP)
she had been retired from performing for a few years but was considering coming back and doing shows again, but she never made it

Are all the ancient crooners besides Frankie Valley dead now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGLkaZ7sBm0

Another early one that goes for an R&B sound.

>>127075139
Johnny Mathis of course is still around and he just retired from performing this spring. Jaye P. Morgan is also still with us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzJ4W1O8CVQ

Some weird rock and roll experiment. That does prove her B-sides and deep cuts were often more interesting than the hits.

>>127072702 (OP)
She was always dogpiled on a bit because her heyday was in the dead zone between Elvis and the Beatles when teen idols and girl groups ruled the Billboard.

>>127075374
They get deservedly shat on for spamming doo-wop sounds which by 1961 were nowhere near as fresh and cutting edge as they were six years earlier and making watered down copies of the better black artists. Most music from that time sounds exactly the same and most of it is bad assembly line slop. I grew up on relatives playing a lot 50s/60s music, a lot of that era pre-rock sucks.
They also had a lot of novelty songs that were single hits but the Billboard chart is not going to have all the best songs either. Culturally significant as a novelty but not good songs.

I can't remember the era specifically, but rock killed the movie and musical song standard for popular music/the great American songbook by the end of the 60s.

>>127072702 (OP)
i bet she doesn't have many streaming numbers compared to Bad Bunny or Kendrick. lol at boomers who think boomer slop from the Middle Ages is still relevant.

>>127075444
t. Fantano

>>127075418
>and most of it is bad assembly line slop. I grew up on relatives playing a lot 50s/60s music, a lot of that era pre-rock sucks
I dunno, it's still better than Olivia Rodrigo.

>>127072949
What's with this narrative she was ugly? Wtf are you talking about. She's very attractive

>>127072702 (OP)
For me, it's that Where The Boys Are song

>>127075444
None of this shit is gonna be relevant soon either retard lol

>>127075672
>>127072949
you know how it is. Italian girls have very hairy arms and legs.

>>127075726
Think Neil sedaka wrote that didn't he? He's still alive too

>>127075871
Yes. Also he was Eydie Gorme's cousin.

Oh yeah of course Dion is still around and if you want to count Willie Nelson as his first record was released in 1957.

>>127075444
strangely no one has ever actually heard a BB or Kendrick song

>>127075152
One of the Four Lads is still left as well.

>>127074170
sucks to see people get old especially given how cute she was back in the day

>>127074170
Kill yourself you catty flaming fag

I'm glad Columbia didn't get her too with their well known reputation in that era

>>127072862
I guess she got too pigeonholed into the pop culture of the Eisenhower-Kennedy years to be able to escape it.

>>127072702 (OP)
I'm happy she lived long enough to watch herself become an ironic TikTok meme, that must've been a crazy end-of-life experience assuming she wasn't full of dementia

>>127076853
She seemed to still be mentally with it but she died apparently after complications from breaking her hip and it sounds like her last three weeks were bad to the point where death could have only been a release.

>>127076853
Supposedly her publicist's son helped with that as she really didn't know anything about SM, but then maybe good it's better to not know about some things.

>>127076853
What was the tik tok meme? Just saw her mentioned a bit the past several months out of nowhere surprised anyone even knew who she was

She had a rough life. Aside from being involuntarily blacked...

>her father was a cruel Joe Jackson type who basically drove her along with a whip and made her record material to the point of exhaustion
>she was never really accepted as part of the rock and roll canon and her hits didn't get played on classic hits/oldies radio which limited younger generations' exposure to the
>she never found a real career path after her chart hits fizzled out in the late 60s
>her brother getting whacked by the Mafia for being a Fed informant

>>127072801
so what you're saying is she sucked a lot of cock?

>>127077235
My take is her dad was an Italian man in the 1950s and the MGM suits didn't want to end up floating in the East River if they cut her for not selling any records.

>>127077154
>she was never really accepted as part of the rock and roll canon and her hits didn't get played on classic hits/oldies radio which limited younger generations' exposure to the
But that "The Banana Boat Song", that was really rock and roll wasn't it? Yeah fuck that shit.

>>127077154
The other thing is she was absolutely smitten with Bobby Darin and wanted him to be her oneitis but that didn't work out and she never got over that, she had a couple of short lived marriages because none of those guys could have measured up to him.

>>127072702 (OP)
RIP Miss Connie

>>127075152
>Jaye P. Morgan
I only know her as a judge on Gong Show reruns

>>127077095
This song became really popular as an ironic meme where it'd be dudebros or skeletons or something listening to twee 60's pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzEmKjP1Oao

>>127077154
Also she had a botched tonsillectomy and was unable to sing for almost a decade straight.

>>127077451
you know she got kicked off there for flashing her tits on TV right?

>>127077154
The second edition of the Rolling Stone Magazine Record Guide had Dave Marsh write "People who missed the late Fifties may not know the answer to the question: 'What's less funky than a Connie Francis movie?; The answer, in all its glitzy, depressing splendor, is right here."

>>127077452
That's nice actually. Its nice that twee 60s pop sound comes back in some way. Of course its always something trying to be funny which is just really dumb but thats zoomers for you

>>127077470
lol, I don't think that episode made it to the 80s reruns I watched as a kid, no. but that's awesome. did she have any good songs? I gotta say, listening to the Francis material posted itt, I'm not mad that she had success but I am not feeling any of this shit . was Morgan more of the same?

>>127077480
she didn't deserve that kind of abuse. i mean if he wanted to unleash on Pat Boone or Steve Lawrence then i don't think anyone would complain.

>>127077480
ok, but what movie was he referring to and why was he talking about movies in a record guide?

>>127077519
>was Morgan more of the same?

She had fun fast songs but also a lot of listless ballads. I think she was not inherently good at slow material, not everyone is.

>>127077519
The live version of TGS was broadcast live and not tape recorded so she decided to flash and see if she could get away with it. She got relegated to the syndicated TGS afterward but nobody wanted to watch the show once she was removed and its ratings instantly collapsed.

>>127077519
Going thru the number 1s and top hits of the late 50s and early 60s I felt like that too. Just felt like generic pop. But "Everybody's somebodys fool" is different from the rest I feel. Has this emotional resonance to it, like this girl is seriously crying about what a failure she is. Wasn't impressed by most of her other cutesy songs but that one is beautiful

Although now that twee is basically dead its beautiful going back to her stuff and I think it'll age really well for people tired of cynical zoomer bullshit

>>127077582
As someone noted Connie's hits were play it safe and not super-interesting the B-sides and album cuts let her experiment a bit more.

>>127077604
Definitely want to hear more of her. Her voice is absolutely adorable honestly. Not many singers make me want to hug them and listen to them sing for hours like her

>>127077563
fuckin A, it's on YouTube uncensored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME_rrjIODTE
when the end theme came on and Gene Gene the Dancing Machine would come on, I would start acting the fool and dancing my ass off, so I can't say I blame Morgan, Gene just naturally has that effect on people

>>127077553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVfdcejnDd0

Jaye had kind of a bratty personality so of course she was always going be the type to pull a stunt like she eventually did years later. At least on the good songs like here, not the times when she tamped it down for radio play.

this is a good comp of Connie's more rock flavored stuff

>>127077675
she also made a really funny unreleased 70s soft rock album

>>127077528
>or Steve Lawrence then i don't think anyone would complain

Sidney Leibowitz died last year he didn't get a sticky and /mu/ didn't waste a lot of time mourning his death.

I think my favourite songs of hers is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPDzohv_VVo

Connie even had a folk album in '65 showing her willingness to try almost anything.

>>127077803
i don't know that much about 50s music what did Steve Lawrence do to be disliked?

>>127077812
not bad, not bad at all.

>>127077836
He was just one of the last bastions of the establishment's pre-rock sound

>>127077836
>>127075907
whenever Gorme and Lawrence are mentioned, this is what immediately pops into my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SdIJimk-w8

>>127077836
Dude was a giga hack who did either fake rock and roll or fake Sinatra and did neither of them well. One of the worst excrescences of the 50s. His old lady was annoying but at least she had a sound/identity as a singer.

>>127077563
>>127075152
Jaye was the same age as Teresa Brewer who left us back when Bush was president.

>>127077918
Eydie had some good songs here and there but they were usually her more pop oriented efforts while the showtune stuff could be...well...an acquired taste. She had quite a lot of lung capacity to say the least. I feel if you're not from NYC you might never really "get" her.

>>127077836
>what did Steve Lawrence do to be disliked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKs6i6crIQY

Start with this. Oh well, at least Buddy got paid songwriting royalties for it.

>>127077675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1618sKyDNGc
she also covered Walk The Line

>>127078112
I made it about 20 seconds in

>>127078112
Cute, another one where she does the brat voice. Just don't ever listen to Eydie Gorme's version of this song, you don't want to do that to yourself.

>>127078130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoNaYSzKrNI

this?

>>127078118
>I made it about 20 seconds in
It was the squealy strings wasn't?

>>127078140
Yes, that. Her country covers album which was horrifying beyond description.

>>127078140
Let it be known that Beyonce was not the first person to ever pull this stunt. It was being done well before she was born.

>>127078165
Teresa Brewer had a bunch of those I even recall one had Walk The Line on it somewhere. Those were also completely unlistenable.

"Fallin'" is definitely Connie's best rocker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMdqabUl8c

Should be stickied, to be honest. Sad to hear.

>>127075139
If you count the brits Petula Clark had been around years before she came to the US

she had a #2 hit in Germany as late as 1992

Peggy, Connie, Brenda Lee, Etta James and Wanda Jackson are my favorite girl singers from this era. So many great and also great sounding records.

I just read some of Bobby Darin's biography on Wiki. His mom had him in her teens and he grew up being told his mom was his older sister and that his grandmother was his mom. Only found out shortly before his death that his "sister" was his mom and his father was an unknown and unidentified person. That's almost as fucked up as Connie being raped or Rosemary Clooney spending several years in a mental institution.

>>127077751
She was very capable of doing R&R but unlike Wanda Jackson became mainly associated with unadventurous pop ballads.

I think her record for the most top 10 hits of a female pop vocalist held until the late 80s. Brenda Lee had more if just the 60s is counted but taking it back to the start of the rock era in 1955 then Connie would come out ahead.

>>127078625
>or Rosemary Clooney spending several years in a mental institution
She had quite a ride in her life.

>dad was an alcoholic bum
>her mom split from him and took her brother with her to California
>her dad was unemployed and there was no food in the house so Rosemary and her sister Betty scraped their nickles and dimes together and won a singing spot on a Cincy radio program
>gets forced to record Mitch Miller slop for a couple years
>divorced her Puerto Rican bvll husband twice because he had no concept of marital fidelity
>has a midlife crisis, watches her friend RFK get shot, and loses it
>spends the early 70s locked up in a mental hospital
>her sister died at 45 of a brain aneurysm

>>127073521
I mean come on it was the 70s crime was through the roof,

>>127075540
I WANT TO SEE CONNIE’S FRANCIS

>>127075139
Bobby Vinton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8uFKMbHYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKXC4NCsrNs

Herb Alpert was writing and selling songs in the 50's, though he wasn't recording under his own name yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd3t1VVQ4us

Speaking of which, Dean Torrence from Jan and Dean also started out in the 50's.

Arvo Pärt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObwmAgf-SXQ

Julie Andrews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjerN4xmCks

Engelbert Humperdinck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTlZ_t4bjh0

Buddy Guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2o_DHpGg3s

Gene Chandler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTFU1B4hsnk

Shirley Bassey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epIdxoo4QcI

Ray Stevens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WS4Jo_ih44

Neil Sedaka:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsKYB5JgRvg

Leroy Van Dyke, the oldschool country singer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgT5k_QFzPY

John Williams:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0OSepAuToo

And of course, Cliff Richard.

Not all were crooners, but they all started out in the 40's or 50's and are still alive.

>>127079155
lol

too bad Connie probably won't get a sticky but if Hayley Williams say died of complications from HIV or something then she would get one because...well, you fill in the blanks.

>>127078140
She died 2013 I don't remember /mu/ mentioning it at all. I do remember when Donna Summer died and that was the year before that.

>>127078242
Petula had been recording since 1949 in fact and her very early recordings included covers of "The Tennessee Waltz" and "Music Music Music."

>>127073529
wait is that why Dinah Shore also bleached her hair blonde? lol

>>127073491
Yes that's it. A younger DD lookalike.

>>127079968
She was a brunette early on, I think.
It isn't that all Jews are like that, but a lot of those executives and bigwigs running Hollywood and Music were. They were the ones telling people (Jews and others) to hide ethnicity or change their names so much...when I don't think people would've cared as much unless it was a really clumsy name.

>>127080043
yes she didn't start dying her hair until the 50s and was a natural brunette

>>127078593
Wanda's voice can kind of wear on you after a while she's only good in small doses.

now Dinah Shore had the most hilarious sounding juxtaposition of a Southern drawl and a nasal Ashkenazi Jewish accent

>>127080043
Everyone did that back then regardless of ethnicity. I mean Del Shannon's real name was...ughh.

>>127080106
And she had some good records in the 40s but the 50s ruined her.

>>127080188
Yeah, quite a bit.
Rita Hayworth = Margarita Carmen Cansino
Margarita/Rita Cansino could've worked...maybe.

>>127072949
Joni's husband was sickly and she basically retired from music to care for him.

>>127080188
Peggy Lee's was worse, I'd have changed that too.

>>127080188
Not to mention whacking multiple years off singers' ages to seem younger.

>>127080270

>>127080244
>>127080235
These two never used a fake age but a lot of people did it even Connie Francis was claimed by MGM for a long time to be 2 years younger than she was.

All of these name changes, but Elvis had his real name. Wonder what his mom was thinking. Kind of a weird name.

>>127072702 (OP)
Requiescat in pace.

>>127080106
She left Kolumbia shortly after Mitch Miller arrived because she didn't want to sing his kind of material.

>>127080437
One of the few success stories he had was taking Frankie Laine and making him into pop country instead of a generic crooner like he was in the beginning.

>>127079191
>Shirley Bassey is still alive

wtf I thought she died in like 2012.

>>127080216
really sucked for her to get early onset dementia. unfortunately it was the same deal as Malcolm Young--drinking fried her brain.

>>127080448
they were good friends Laine was maybe one of the only singers Miller had a good working relationship with instead of being like "do I have to sing this?"

>>127080474
I'd always assumed Rita Hayworth got exposed to nasty chemicals back when movie sets were not very safe places but it was probably her alcohol addiction that turned her into a potato.

>>127080216
these PR photos were really shooped to make her have absolutely perfect smooth china doll skin which nobody actually has IRL and definitely not if you spend a lot of time in the SoCal sun

>>127080550
She was still young there though. Probably didn't need that much help. She was beautiful in those 40s movies too. But she aged quick..due to the alcohol as anons mentioned.

>>127080550
>>127080270
Speak of the devil. Here's April Stevens another singing Italian girl from the 50s and who later on formed a duet with her brother in which she cut an impressive 7 years off her real age. Also her PR photos were shooped as hell. I think she was a bit jealous of Connie Francis and had a legitimate rivalry going on there.

This album cover photo had no editing done and shows that she did in fact look exactly like a mid-30s woman who had spent too much time tanning on the beach. Damn did she live a long time though, died only in 2022.

Now if you didn't know, April Stevens had been around since the early 50s as a nightclub/exotica singer who specialized in doing sex voices on her records and had some pretty lewd PR photos. She never got any radio play for this reason but in the early 60s decided to try a new approach by forming a duet with her little brother and going more commercial, but she also had to pretend to be way younger than she was to pander to teenagers.

Her last minor hit was response to Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Treehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_CgIpqhKMQ

>>127077320
In her autobiography she comments that they weren't "connected" ie. they didn't have mob ties. Maybe the MGM executives were afraid her psycho dad would chimp out and shoot them if they cut her for non-sales but that was the extent of it.

>>127081548
>forgot to put in a space so the link didn't work
idiot

>>127080612
The fuck did this bitch get away with that? She'd been a major label artist for like a decade by then so clearly people had to know she wasn't like 14 when she started.

>>127072949
Why did so many Italians not use their real names when Frank Sinatra did and it clearly didn't hinder him

>>127084033
A lot of them sounded too ponderous and clumsy.

>>127080612
I mean her real name was Caroline Vincinette LoTempio.

>no sticky
sigh... time to update the list, I guess

>>127084009
they were aiming them at a teen audience who didn't know how far back her career went so the con job could be made to work

>>127080622
youngest looking 26 yo ever, right?

>>127080622
guy-woman duets were a fad in this era and there were a bunch of them like Paul and Paula and Dick and Deedee

>>127080577
yeah, that

REMINDER
DIDN'T GET A STICKY:

>Adam Yauch
>Bill Doss
>Ravi Shankar
>Pete Seeger
>Bob Casale
>Ben E. King
>Ornette Coleman
>Chris Squire
>Pierre Boulez
>George Martin
>Keith Emerson
>Merle Haggard
>Alan Vega
>Jaki Liebezeit
>Gregg Allman
>Glen Campbell
>Walter Becker
>Holger Czukay
>Charles Bradley
>Cecil Taylor
>Glenn Branca
>XXXTentacion (based actually)
>Vinnie Paul
>Pete Shelley
>Scott Walker
>Dr. John
>João Gilberto
>David Berman
>Ric Ocasek
>Ginger Baker
>Juice Wrld
>McCoy Tyner
>Genesis P-Orridge
>Krzysztof Penderecki
>John Prine
>Peter Green
>Harold Budd
>Phil Spector
>Chick Corea
>Stephen Sondheim
>Vicente Fernandez
>Pharoah Sanders
>Loretta Lynn
>Jerry Lee Lewis
>Manuel Göttsching
>Yukihiro Takahashi
>Burt Bacharach
>Gordon Lightfoot
>Andy Rourke
>Astrud Gilberto
>Sixto Rodriguez
>Robbie Robertson
>Damo Suzuki
>Françoise Hardy
>John Mayall
>SD Laika
>Sergio Mendes
>Ka
>Paul Di'Anno
>Phil Lesh
>Rick Derringer
>Sly Stone
>Jamie Muir
>Mike Ratledge
>David Johansen
>Douglas McCarthy
>Connie Francis

>>127086986
Is it whatever some dumb faggot tranny janny deems important? It shouldn't be biased it should be put up to a vote if anything

REMINDER
DID GET A STICKY:

>X Japan bassist
>Joe Jackson
>Eddie Money
>Sulli (kpop trash)
>Kenny Rogers (STICKIED FOR OVER A WEEK)
>Alexi Laiho
>Jon Hassell (282 replies)
>Joey Jordison
>Dusty Hill
>Barry Harris (228 replies)
>Mike Nesmith (250 replies)
>Taylor Hawkins
>Olivia Newton-John
>Takeoff (1720 REPLIES)
>Liam Payne

>>127079521
The Desu archive goes back to about mid-2012 no Eydie Gorme didn't get a sticky or even a mention neither did Patti Page however...

https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/31787377/

This anon paid Page a homage when she died and didn't realize it. kek.

>>127087070
i don't get it

>>127087070
>thread was 1/6/13
>Page died earlier that week
I couldn't help but go "wow really? lol" when I saw that.

>>127086999
Losers so hooked on this shit site that a sticky here is equivalent to a nobel prize in music. Reminder the only purpose of sticky threads is to contain autism. Didn't Get A Sticky anon might well get a sticky themselves when they finally die.

https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/68889833/

Kay Starr did get one mention on here.

>>127080612
The area above the breast always gives it away. It tends to get dark and spotty in older women.

>>127084104
This thread wouldn't even have lasted so long without the 50s music autists

>>127087315
only one reply? did we not have any 50s music autists on /mu/ back in '16?

>>127087315
Kay had quite a set of pipes but a lot of her songs were the music equivalent of a pink and white '55 Cadillac convertible ie. tacky as hell.

>>127087315
I know we mentioned Phyllis McGuire and Doris Day when they died I explicitly remember it in fact. Of course Doris was as much /tv/ as she was /mu/.

>>127087000
Didn't Christgau say that Kenny Rogers sucked and wasn't worth listening to? Also Olivia Newton-John deserved a sticky. The other people on that list did not.

>>127086986
Kay Starr didn't get a sticky or Doris Day either so...meh.

Pat Boone is going to get one when he goes, won't he?

>>127087070
i go back far enough to remember a thread about Donna Summer's death in '12 and there was just these anons like lol so? i'm not a 50 year old gay man.

Stickies are used to tidy up when people are making multiple threads about one thing. This is currently the only thread about Connie Francis dying.

>>127087642
>2012
That was when /mu/ was still delusional enough to think P4k indie actually had any content.

>>127087619
He will, trust me. And in the same token Dylan or McCartney won't get a sticky.

>>127087619
also if Teresa Brewer had died more recently instead of back in 07 before /mu/ was a thing (which could have been possible since she was younger than some of the other people mentioned in here) she would have gotten a sticky.

>>127087674
They will because /mu/ will get flooded with thousands ot threads so it would be necessary to consolidate them into one.

Christgau will also get one. Of course he will, why wouldn't he?

>>127087656
>That was when /mu/ was still delusional enough to think P4k indie actually had any content.
at least it meant a little more than Olivia or Chappell anyway

Not only will Jaye P. Morgan get one but the mods will have a GIF of her flashing her tits on the Gong Show.

>>127087745
No, bro, Arcade Fire and Bon Iver sucked then and they suck no.

>>127087704
IAFAIK /mu/ existed since the very early days of 4chan and would have been around back then.

>>127080661
>>127080612
They were trying to market Sue Thompson to teenagers back then too although despite this shooped PR photo they didn't really shave years off her age afaik they just dropped it by one year.

>>127087855
she didn't get a death mention on /mu/ either i checked the archive

>>127087855
why the hell not? if they could market the 40 year olds in Aerosmith and RHCP to middle schoolers...

>>127087855
Sue was a failed pop country singer from Misery with a voice like a Rugrats character until she rode to a few years of chart success on some effective if cheesy John Loudermilk songs. Almost like a proto-Chappell Roan, but not.

>>127072702 (OP)
Fortunately she never did any Beatles covers (that I know of).

Maybe it's for the best that she didn't get Bobby Darin because given his known health issues she would have become an awfully young widow.

>>127088132
rheumatic heart fever was common before modern vaccinations and nobody who gets that is ever quite right again

>>127087855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiEWg_0a9dU

I guess this proved Sue wasn't meant for standards. Her doing this song just feels silly.

>>127072702 (OP)
Is it a bad thing that social media algorithms allow people to discover previously ignored music? First the Youtube algo promoting Plastic Love and other 80s j-pop and now Tiktok.

>>127072702 (OP)
I thought she died 30 years ago.

>>127088312
Goddammit they might even resurrect Amy Grant and nobody wants that.

>>127087391
?

>>127072724
Their sound was a little newer than the previous 50s pop it incorporated doo-wop influences and sounded lighter and airier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLtODFQ_R5k

Joni James's breakout and biggest hit was '52 and it has a much heavier, brassier sound than Connie or Brenda's airy sounding records.

>>127072702 (OP)
RIP