How do we make music beautiful again?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6QWI4H4_ik4

It’s occurred to me and many people that not only has the overall quality of music gone down the toilet in the past 30 years but also the beauty of music has likewise faded. Music is no longer beautiful. It has no symmetry anymore but distortion, chaos and confusion. We no longer see entire orchestras performing majestic and breathtaking compositions together, but music producers pushing buttons on samplers and calling it “music.” Ugly genres like rap/hip hop, electronic and EDM have replaced classical music and even compelling pop music. When was the last time a song you heard in public brought you to tears it was so beautiful?

So how do we make mainstream music beautiful again sonthat it glorifies both God and mankind? Where do we start?

>>127076386 (OP)
You don't. Civilization is heading only in one direction and there's nothing you can do to stop it. It dies by collective suicide, by the way. In any case, the solution is to build a ivory tower for yourself and enjoy the show.
>We no longer see entire orchestras performing majestic and breathtaking compositions together
I must have missed orchestras stopping performing altogether. Are you retarded or something? Go buy a ticket for a classical concert. They still do this stuff, last time I checked. All the best pieces have been recorded in the best possible way already, though, so that might be a bit of a waste.

>>127076386 (OP)
Solve this >>127076507 and maybe, MAYBE it will help.

>>127076386 (OP)
By making melody popular again with the youth.

>>127076597
Yes. Recorded music was the biggest mistake of all time.

>>127076886
I'm nothing going that extreme but it did eventually diminished the social and communal aspect of music making, and it made it so less houses had pianos and less people learned to play it.

>>127076386 (OP)
>classical music and even compelling pop music
nth confirmation classicalfags are literal homosexuals

>>127077535
Your post is pointless to the discussion at hand.

>>127076587
Genuinely some of the most retarded shit I have read on this site in ages

>>127076886
Recorded music wasn't a mistake, the internet and portable music players were.

>>127077855
Oh, yeah? All of it? Really, anon? Is Western civilization NOT committing suicide and becoming a vast, spiritual and cultural wasteland? And did orchestras STOP playing music together? Please, enlighten me...

>>127076386 (OP)
People don't like beauty. They think it's gay or that they're too cool for it. You have to really have guts to try to make something that's actually beautiful now.

>>127077535
Read your own chart, retard.

>>127077535
I'm surprised that so few gay men listen to indie.

>>127077535
Interesting that there's almost nothing that gay women listen to more than anyone else.

>>127077239
Correct. And sampling has completely destroyed the communal aspect of music, turning the producer into a god-man.

>>127077535
What's this then, anon? A survey of 50 American college students or something pointless like that? Also, pop (/mu/'s favorite genre) is gayer (less straight).

>>127077535
Wow, gay guys really don't like anything gritty.

>>127076886
It had some abstract drawbacks that can't be pinpointed or proven, but calling it the "biggest mistake of all time" is dumb.

>>127077535
What the fuck is "reggaeton?" I have never heard that word before in my life.

>>127076886
It may have had some abstract drawbacks that can't be pinpointed or proven, but calling it the "biggest mistake of all time" is dumb. The truth is, it was a massive achievement for the human race that everyone is grateful for, including you.

>>127081915
Do you live under a rock?

>>127081918
>The truth is, it was a massive achievement for the human race that everyone is grateful for, including you
Yes, what an achievement it was to ruin music.

>>127081928
Then why do you listen to it?

>>127081921
No. That's what's so weird about it. In all the time that I have existed, I have never once in my entire life heard someone say the word "reggaeton."

Pseuds who know nothing about composition and music complain about "chaos and noise" without accepting the possibility of anything outside western tonality. Modernist composers already solved this problem and left shitters like you in the dust.

>>127076386 (OP)
It doesn't work like that.
You don't solve a problem by reverting to a previous period in time. You'd still end up here
The way out is through

>>127081869
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>why aren't musicians still writing music that was basically fully explored centuries ago and still gets regular contributions
>we should go back to the age when almost no one actually listened to music regularly, especially not the high-skill ensemble variety that survived into the present, and the greatest composers in the world regularly died in poverty and survived on the whims of a handful of powerful rich people
who can say

>>127077535
metal is the based as usual

>>127083059
There is not a single piece of music from the last 100 years worth listening to in any capacity

>>127083404
Damn. Maybe everyone should get on your level and be a complete psychotic weirdo.

>>127083425
It is psychopathic thinking that capitalism produces genuine art lol. I thought you might wake up now that your master is exposed as a pedo but i guess retards stay retards forever

>>127081868
singer-songwriter/folk? the only genre with one category way above the others is metal

>>127081871
>American college students
yeah that's why "dutch" is one of the genres dumbass

>>127081871
>American college students
yeah that's why "dutch" is one of the genres
>pop is gayer
no, gay men are significantly above the rest with classical while pop has straight women very close

>>127083431
I guess you're having a hard time coping with the fact that the person who you helped get elected is a pedophile, because there's no other reason you would bring that up. You're clearly of a far right mindset and you're really confused right now. And that's okay. You're just a suffering little weirdo who doesn't know what the fuck to think and now that your god is turning out to be a complete degenerate so you're losing your mind.

>>127083500
Pop music is capitalism coded. Voted biden btw, trans rights

Your pathetic "no u" is hilarious

>>127083513
Well I don't give a fuck. There are bigger fish to fry.

>>127083513
Also, you didn't. Nobody on the left talks like that.

>>127083513
You voted Biden 2024?

>>127083538
I'm sorry, the left is a homogenous blob and everyone is a clone of each other. fuking retard lmao

>>127083513
You are so utterly devastated by the fact that your leader is a pedophile that you're pretending to be on the left while trying to seep in your rightwing views because you don't know what the fuck else do to, you weak little tool.

>>127083563
Oh wow, so you just admitted to being a pathetic little liar. Your leader is a pedophile. What now?

>>127083575
Amazing cope, concession absolutely accepted

>>127083580
Apparently you make such a huge concession that you delete your posts out of sheer fear of my points lmao. great job showcasing your utter inferiority, MAGAbrained downie cunt

>>127083585
I say that you're coping about the fact that you voted for a pedophile and you're like, "amazing cope." You are so utterly destroyed.

>>127083610
Just since you're lying, I have to post this.

You somehow manage to be everything wrong with a person all tied into one. Baseless, devastated, sneaky pathetic, destroyed. It's just lovely.

>>127083600
Just since you're lying, I have to post this.

You somehow manage to be everything wrong with a person all tied into one. Baseless, devastated, pathetic, destroyed. It's just lovely.

>>127083632
A post so correct, you had to delete it, kek.

>>127083600
It must feel so strange not believing anything you say and knowing that everyone else is right and you're wrong and yet LARPing as someone who believes they're right.

>>127083656
Maybe stop deleting every post you make like an embarassing retard lmao

>>127083649
What is your actual point? You still voted for a pedophile. It seems like you're trying to talk about everything except for that.

>>127083660
Is that all you want to talk about? What about me saying you voted for a pedophile?

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>>127083682
Whatever delusions make you feel better

>>127083699
So you voted for a pedophile and the problem of the day is that I revised a post.

>>127083704
Saying it over and over again doesn't change the fact that I voted biden. Maybe you are projecting your own cope onto me to get rid of your guilt for voting for trump kek

>>127083766
You must have such a low sense of self to accuse people of what you're guilty of. It blows my mind how low and pathetic people like you are.

>>127083805
You must have such a low sense of self to accuse people of what you're guilty of. It blows my mind how low and pathetic people like you are.

>>127083817
You must have such a low sense of self to accuse people of what you're guilty of. It blows my mind how low and pathetic people like you are.

>>127083833
You must have such a low sense of self to accuse people of what you're guilty of. It blows my mind how low and pathetic people like you are.

>>127083835
You must have such a low sense of self to accuse people of what you're guilty of. It blows my mind how low and pathetic people like you are.

>>127083849
You must have such a low sense of self to accuse people of what you're guilty of. It blows my mind how low and pathetic people like you are.

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>>127083850
High quality debate