I'm still surprised at just how popular /mu/core stuff is IRL. There are better chances of bumping into a person under the age of 35 who is a big fan of GYBE or Death Grips (especially them) or MBV than of meeting a guy who's really into Primal Scream or Chicago for example, even amongst third worlders. It has become the default babby's first foray into ''alternative'' music, which is interesting considering the initially off-putting and niche nature of those bands. Whenever I run into a young fella who displays visible signs of passion for music, there is a very high probability of them mentioning names that are apart of the /mu/ canon, which wasn't necessarily the case 15 years ago, even amongst so-called hipsters.
What does /mu/ think of this normalized pipeline into ''serious music fandom'' (for lack of a better term)? Did it homogenize teenagers' growing music tastes? I know this board blows nowadays and is way too busy jacking it with its waifufaggotry, but whatever why not be curious about current cultural norms

It's not /mu/ influencing popular culture as much as it popular culture influencing /mu/. Just look at all the sabrina carpenter threads.

feels good knowing i helped meme better music into the contemporary zeitgeist

>>127078241
Nah, those are two different things going on. What really happened is pitchfork popularized these albums to both audiences, then later normalfags colonized here.

>>127078241
I get what you're saying, but I think there has undeniably been a cross-pollination effect on a cultural level between what was pedaled around on 4chan and what has become a regular staple of internet discussions since then, for better and for worse. It wasn't direct, but it certainly got amplified here and was transmitted through the growing userbases of Reddit, Twitter, YT, and so on. There's a pretty good reason why terminally online normalfags (it is normal to be this way nowadays) like to use the term Based so much, as asinine of an example this may seem to be. And why some of the most popular books amongst male readers are Mishima's works.
Same thing happened with /mu/sic. As much as I dislike him, Fantano really was the main reference point for many kids online who were starting to develop an interest in music for a decade or so, and it's good to remember that he was a guy from here, who posted here, and catered to this community. This place, on the other hand, was paying close attention to all the major indie blogs and magazines online that championed all that shit, therefore the artists and albums mentioned just got echoed around so much that they became canonical. Though I will add that /mu/'s ultimate triumph was having its own unique canon that existed on the periphery of the blogtastic diagram with its own albums that were not getting any serious traction anywhere else prior to blowing up here for god knows what reason. This excludes the Strawberry Jams and includes the Deathconsciousness' of this world.

>>127078309
Chicago get 10x more daily streams than Death Grips or GYBE, 5x more than MBV

>>127078225 (OP)
Chicago get 10x more daily streams than Death Grips or GYBE, 5x more than MBV

>>127078375
Based. Maybe there is hope for this world after all

>>127078375
sure, but it's a different audience than what is stated in the op. how many of those streams, if you want to take that metric seriously, come from people who are younger than generation x?

It was all just shit that Pitchfork pushed. I'm going to see Boris this year but most of the old hipster canon sucks dick. Fuck Death Grips, fuck GYBE, fuck Swans etc. Listen to Les Rallizes Denudes

/mu/core, rymcore and stuff that reddit likes are literally the all same thing in my eyes. it's all a bunch of "safe different"

>>127079315
/mu/ likes to imagine they were memeing these acts into existence when really they were following Pitchfork's lead.

>>127078225 (OP)
It's just the runoff of 4chan permeating everything. Fucking kids are parroting decade old 4chan memes.

>>127079699
This. Democratizing taste in any way will always result in a prioritization of agreeability over quality. Albums like Imaginal Disk and Igor are ludicrously overrated on RYM because of their broad appeal. There's really no difference between someone who only listens to top 40 radio and someone who only listens to /mu/core, except in the level of pretentiousness. The latter would be happily guzzling down Travis Scott and Morgan Wallen if they didn't feel the need to be different from everyone else.

>>127080266
>The latter would be happily guzzling down Travis Scott and Morgan Wallen if they didn't feel the need to be different from everyone else
Is it a need to be different from everyone else or a need for music that's creative and experimental and not boring?
The absolute worst thing art can be is boring.

>>127080380
>Is it a need to be different from everyone else or a need for music that's creative and experimental and not boring?
It's both, depending on the person. Like I said, the problem is when someone ONLY listens to mu/rym/reddit-core.

These type of people are all over the internet, and my point is that they aren't really engaging with the art any further than a top 40 pleb is. They're the type of person to listen to a highly rated artist in some niche genre, put them in their topster, and then never explore that genre any further. Then they tell others, "I love <genre>, have you heard of <artist>? No? I guess you wouldn't have heard of them, they're pretty niche.". Does that sound like someone who's genuinely interested in the art? To them, music is fashion, and their primary interest is in coming off as cultured looking down their nose at others. All /mu/ and rym have done is enable people like this to piggyback off the actual curation done by people with real passion for music.

>>127078225 (OP)
>which wasn't necessarily the case 15 years ago
You've already answered your own question right there dumbfuck. More and more people, especially the younger generations are attuned and influenced by internet culture compared to their predecessors, the chances of them bumping into "hipster" music that are heavily promoted by and through internet culture (because the <35yo crowd are always online) are more likely than dinosaur bands such as primal scream or chicago as only dadrockers who have difficulties navigating the vast complex and sometimes frightening cyberworld listen to those crap. Another thing, if you were to do a quick reverse search, you can see how far reaching the mu-core chart(s) had reached throughout the internet sphere, 15 years is how much time it had for its influence -- From this site to reddit to ifunny to twitter to tiktok, you get the picture.

Also I think you should kill yourself.

>>127078225 (OP)
It's because more people are online now. I think the pandemic made normies get into weird schizo shit whether that be conspiracy theories or weird music. It's the same reason why everyone is far right now. The internet is now the content of everyones brains.

>>127080712
Are you taking steroids?

>>127081792
>Death Grips
>weird schizo shit
You normalfags are so tiring

>>127078225 (OP)
/mu/ started to become more pleb as the years went on and relied more on what critics say more than anything. Not that being contrarian was any better, but at least it was somewhat better than eating up top 40 slop.

>>127081792
you need to go outside more. normies spend more time online, but for them that means doomscrolling instagram reels, not getting into "weird schizo shit".

>Listen to Les Rallizes Denudes

>>127078241
That's just Indians gooning I wouldn't read too much into it.

>>127081847
I probably spend more time "outside" than you.

>>127081978
yeah given the quality of your takes on the internet, you're probably right.

>>127080527
Those are typically called genre tourists.

>>127078457
Most of them? Young people are the ones that primarily stream on Spotify. Chicago’s original audience listens on physical

>>127078225 (OP)

>>127080527
This is not just common to the internet hipster albums. /mu/ 10 years ago used to have a ton of tripfags that pretended to listen to more esoteric and obscure music for the same reason.

>>127078225 (OP)
yeah basically /mu/ laid the inscriptions into rocks so tiktok zoomie hoes could discover them and decipher like archeologically but for music
And Scaruffi and christgau and lester bangs before mu and so on
it is true, 4chan has had a considerable influence on the cultural sphere especially the more digitally online savvy folk

>>127078225 (OP)
>Primal Scream
They had one decent albums in last 20 years, they really fell off

>>127085795
XTRMNTR is still underrated