Thread 127096850

most music fans have heard neil young called the godfather of grunge?
but could he be the godfather of outlaw country too?
stuff like this seems to have come out a year or two before willie and waylon started popularizing the outlaw country genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DjAT41QtAo

He's godfather of shitty music

>>127096850 (OP)
In no universe would that song be considered outlaw country. Outlaw country was just country heavily influenced by rock, sang by a bunch of old men who pretended like they were hardened criminals.

And also, if people want to point at Waylon then they really need to point at Shaver since without him there would be no outlaw country.

>>127096850 (OP)
Outlaw country started before Waylon and Willie. Or maybe not even outlaw, but dark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88d21dtEk3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gAYiUmir_w&list=RD-gAYiUmir_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I_zt-SekHY&list=RD9I_zt-SekHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCAITGO3V8g

>>127096850 (OP)
I hope Neil Young will remember, a Southern man don't need him around, anyhow!

>>127096850 (OP)
No, that would be Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, or Waylon Jennings.

>>127097028
Actually maybe Hank Williams.

>>127097032
Maybe Jimmie Rodgers before that. He was singing about shooting his wife in the 30s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ks4hNLBjA

>>127097048
Oh wait, 20s! OG right there.

>>127096957
i think i agree. i went back and listened to what i think are the most famous outlaw country songs and there is definitely a different vibe. this for example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSTDgc7dbyc
but that neil young song basically has a country beat but does sound different than good hearted woman, or whiskey river.
the waylon and willie songs sound way more country.
what would be your opinion why neil still sounds more rock than country even when he basically sings over a slow country beat and has pedal steel as main lead instrument?

Neil Young? Outlaw? He vaccine shames now. He promotes the establishment. Talented songwriter. Outlaw, no.

>>127096850 (OP)
Why is his singing so awful

>>127097709
How does factor at all whatsoever to his output goddamn 50 years ago? Also, "outlaw country" never meant being edgy, it just meant meant you didn't get radio play.

>>127097709
Wealth and fame and probably the busy schedule that comes with it makes you a lazy thinker. I doubt he has the time or inclination to go digging into the details. People like that just turn on the news and believe it. Especially something like that where old people like him are specifically targeted and injected with fear.

>>127097094
I think Young is genreless because he doesn't understand any genre. He's a fraud who grew up well off but wants to sing what he thinks the common man feels. His Oceanside Countryside album proves he was just flinging shit out hoping something sticks. Him and Bob Dylan are one and the same. Frauds who couldn't make it in country because everyone saw right through their BS, so they marketed themselves as the voice for the common man who hates country music because they hate their heritage.

>>127096875
FPBP

>>127096850 (OP)
When you think about it he's also the godfather of rap

>>127096850 (OP)
Niggas on /mu/ will do anything to avoid listening to actual country lmao
I like neil too but holy shit

>>127098574
Is this written by AI?
Dylan and Young both absolutely loved country music.

>>127098654
Are you ESL? I know they loved country music. That's why they originally tried forcing themselves in. But nobody fell for the jew and city boy larping as country musicians.

>>127098692
It wasn't just Bob and Neil. It was almost all of rock getting a bit more down to earth by the end of the 60s. Not trying to take over country itself.

>>127096850 (OP)
The ditch trilogy is overrated with the exception of Time Fades Away.
>>127096875
You're the godfather of stupidity.

He didn't start outlaw country, all the big names of that were already doing it by the time that album came out.
>>127096969
This.
Here's an older version of that Sanford Clark cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVcdpY4sSVU

Produced by Lee Hazlewood who also wrote and recorded a song on that same compilation that you could argue was 'outlaw country' from 1960. Duane Eddy on guitar by the sounds of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkh45KCspSE

>>127096969
none of those can be outlaw because outlaw was reactionary to the nashville sound which came after these records were released

>>127096850 (OP)

/onions/core

>>127096850 (OP)
>Bandmate gets a roadie hooked on hard drugs
>Roadie ODs and dies
>Writes a song about it
What an asshole.