Thread 127108308

They stopped only because modern copyright HELL sucked all the fun out of sampling others.

>>127108308 (OP)
>le copyright is bad for music
that's just the kind of thing an AI bot would say

they sucked after Discovery

One More Time is one of the worst songs ever recorded.

>>127108341
aifags don't even care about copyright you idiot. they still just grab what they can.

>Paul's Boutique would never be possible nowadays with current copyright hell
It hurts desu

>>127108308 (OP)
Then how rappers do it?

>>127108535
Why do you think they all go by surnames?
>lil boozy bitch
>e rock tha provida
>skrttz
So they cant be sued

if sampling is so fraught with difficulty now, why don’t they simply compose their own music from scratch?
...oh yeah right

>>127108354
yes but they're trying to normalize "le copyright bad" so that the public will support their grand-scale larceny.

>>127108727
thats what they ended up doing and it went incredibly well

Daft Punk is EDM for people who never dance or even go out and don't listen to any other electronic music. the amount of times you see a top 50 chart or w/e and its a bunch of entry level hipster garabe and gay indie rock with a sprinkle of trannycore and some rym-approved rap to prove theyre not racis and then theres one daft punk album amongst all the rest of the shite

>>127108879
Because going out sucks these days. Everyone wants an argument.

>>127108588
kek

>>127108742
Won't someone please think of the industry!

>>127108535
Does modern rap even have samples? Don't they just use the same shitty trap beat and rap over that?

>>127109642
sorry, are you trying to strawman a "copyright is only good for the recording industry, not for the artists" argument in there? as justification for allowing AI to steal from artists?

That's just the thing an AI bot would do.

>>127108742
Just curious zoomer… how do you square opposition to Jews with desperately defending mega corporations that have themselves stolen from artists? Surely you’re at least smart enough to understand that Sony and Virgin do not represent the average man. They’d throw you off a cliff if it made them a dollar.

>>127109701
>that’s just the thing an AI bot would do

And yet you can’t cite a single AI track that’s decent whereas I can name ten million plunderphonics that are good…

Are you going to defend AI now?

>>127108899
>going out sucks these days.
absoutely based.

Concerts and clubs are an absolutely, wholly degrading experience for the paying public, from ticket purchase on through the event itself.

>>127108346
Let’s hear your recording

>>127109702
>JOOOOOOOZ!
/pol/ tourist MAGA trash detected.

Still though, I'm not defending the corporations that themselves have stolen from artists, I'm saying that copyright law shouldn't be suspended for the convenience of AI corporations (which are also owned by the dreaded JOOOOOZ)

>>127109714
I am absolutely not defending AI. Why the fuck do you think I'm defending AI. I'm mocking AI bots that are trying to normalize "le copyright bad"

>>127108879
>Daft Punk is EDM for people who never dance or even go out and don't listen to any other electronic music.
"EDM for people who dance" aka music for retarded druggies who don't give a fuck about good music

>>127109702
>>127109741

>>127108308 (OP)
I have grown to hate sampling.
It's fine when you go so crazy with it you've essentially just created a Frankenstein monster of audio recordings that has its own aesthetic or if you only use it a little bit for effect with otherwise mostly original material but what Drake, Kendrick, Tribe, Daft Punk and Diddy (and of course Anxiety bitch) did was too derivative and banal.
I already heard that Curtis Mayfield song 50 times in the thrift store, I don't wanna hear it + your stupid rapping.
I blame the normalization of sampling for the stuck culture we're in now.
>Bro, just piggyback off the popularity of a better older song for your unlistenable diss track.

>>127110204
>you've essentially just created a Frankenstein monster of audio recordings that has its own aesthetic
Half of the tracks Daft Punk sample have this, like Face to Face. The other half maybe not but they are still catchy enough that I like them, one thing Thomas Bangalter has is an amazing ability to match catchy but simple repetitive electronic tunes, he's proven it with Stardust - Music Sounds Better With You and the Call On Me version he never bothered to release.

How did the imposed copyright sampling thing start? Was it because De La Soul tried to get away with a Turtles samples that was literally a two note organ part?

>>127109741
>/pol/ tourist MAGA trash
lmfao
>he protects the people with their boot on his neck
>blames the other side of political aisle, as equally retarded as himself
you're just the bestest little guy, aren't you?

>>127108308 (OP)
>They stopped only because modern copyright HELL sucked all the fun out of sampling others.
They were paying royalties for samples on prior albums, why would it suddenly be a problem now?

>>127108343
Alive 2007 is probably the best thing they did so, no, you’re wrong young man

>>127108308 (OP)
They were quite literally NEVER good. How they got so popular is beyond me, but the only reason I can think of is redditors just randomly decided to blow these faggots up as some kind of synth geniuses, while literally not knowing about ANYTHING else in the genre. Le Silly Hats gimmick must have been doing a lot of heavy lifting for corny millennials

>>127113321
Pretty sure it was Gilbert O'Sullivan suing Biz Markie for sampling his song "Alone Again" after being denied permission to do so.

Biz rightfully lost that suit.

>>127113944
Their albums have genuinely great production

>>127110515
All the songs I have heard by them use the samples lazily to an infantile degree. Robot Rock is the by far worst offender but even Harder Faster is pretty laughable in terms of not feeling any different than the song the main sample is from.

>>127114308
Robot Rock and Harder Better Faster Stronger took shitty boring forgotten 70s songs and made them classics with a few tweaks. Nobody was listening to fucking Cola Bottle Baby before and the vocoder vocals are the hook of the song

>>127108354
but yet anti-AIfags will defend hip-hop sampling to their grave. Make it make sense

>>127114334
Release The Beast is leagues better than Robot Rock. Go to reddit with muh popularity contest arguments.

>>127114347
I hate AI and hip hop.

>>127114403
racist

>let me show you my action figures collection!
>daft punk music starts playing

>>127114369
Release The Beast sucks and you would not know that song exists if Robot Rock didn’t sample the only part where the band was actually playing in time

>>127114444
The breakdown is good, but will say the coon voices suck. Not even racist, they're just lame. Liked them in this song though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jvrX5PpPpw

>>127114444
70s-early 80s funk is kino. Wonder what year exactly funk started becoming hip hop instead

>>127108308 (OP)
So they werent allowed to sample because of the legal hell but NIGGERS still make (c)rap music and sample all they like with no consequences?

>>127108727
Go listen to random access memories or the tron legacy soundtrack you retarded little faggot

>>127110204
Dumb retard. Go listen to face to face, and tell me that doesnt fit your idea of "going so crazy with it, youve created your own frankenstein of sampling"

>>127114308
You did not respond to the matter at hand which is face to face

>>127108308 (OP)
Pretty sure they broke up because AI freaked them out

I remember when it was okay to freely use samples when they were really short.
Now they're even TRYING to copyright things like snares.
It's a fucking nightmare.

JUSTICE are better, anyway.

Seeing them in 2007 is still the greatest gig I ever went to

>>127108341
t. Corporate bootlicker

>>127108535
They still get turned down. I remember Daft Punk turned down will.i.am a decade ago or so from using one of their samples. And look at how Kanye West did that "cover" of Everybody by Backstreet Boys, but they must have stopped him from releasing it officially, etc.

>>127108527
you could still make it and put it out but you couldn't sell the rights to a corporation to exploit for financial gain.
the future is sample based music is just to make it and put it out for free and then try to make money from performing it. you have to avoid spotify but you should anyway. let the copyright owners fight over youtube adsense revenue while you make live gig money and pay a small contribution to collection agencies for the samples you used.

>>127108879
there is 3 stages of daft punk

>>127110204
Daft Punk had a special ability to make super simple samples sound completely unique
The songs are so stripped down but sound so good, that's way harder than some squarepusher level sample sperg autism

>>127114308
What about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QwOpRh-IfI
Looking at the vid it certainly looks easy enough but it's more about the ability to recognise three parts of a track and think "if I cut these out and re-roder them maybe it will create a memorable riff" which is the impressive bit. The techanicality of the sampling is another thing, but Daft Punk have always been good at making simple but catchy music.