Is it the best post-hardcore album of all time, purely from an objective point-of-view?

is this really post hardcore or just spicy pop punk?
I mean, it's good I guess. I always kinda liked 3 Cheers better

>>127145832
there isn't much pop-punk here desu. they started leaning on that on their second album. i don't think it's even top 10 post-hardcore albums tho.

Stop spamming your garbage

>>127145867
to be fair I have basically zero idea what post-hardcore actually is
is it like what underoath was doing after they were metal but before they renounced jesus?
or is it like public image ltd but heavier?
is converge post hardcore or is that just metalcore and if they're metalcore what the fuck is bring me the horizon?

Gerard Way was brutally raped by several young black gentleman in the sizzling summer of 2002

>>127145898
are you MCRfag by any chance? also, why would you talk if you don't know?

>>127145913
If you mean the guy that always posts three cheers with the whole thing about how pound for pound can we agree yadda yadda, no I am not MCRfag
I've heard the term post-hardcore used for years and always assumed it was one of those things like "emo" where there are like six different waves now that all sound totally different, just asking for clarification. If I don't ask, I will never know.

>>127145708 (OP)
Definitely, this album completely mogs all other post-hardcore that came both before and after, revolutionized the genre, but MCR had to leave it, they took pity on less talent bands (like Thursday, Emery etc...) and left this genre for them, so they wouldn't starve and could survive, very noble on their part.

no guys seriously what is post hardcore?
that rym site has MCR next to Orchid, Nomeansno, Fugazi, and Slint and all of those bands sound very very different to me.

>>127145708 (OP)
Post-hardcore in general relied on being formulaic, so that one trick ponies like Thursday could appear bright by screeching on a mic, but even after MCR nobly left the staleness of the genre's 2000s era behind, likely to help Thursday out, they still managed to lose to sleeping with sirens, pierce the veil, and pretty much any noob that came along.

>>127146555
Just picture a guy who had a punk phase he outgrew, but is now some sort of angsty alt-male nearing his 30s
Also always took himself too seriously to get into emo

was all that youth group skate park shit in 2005 post hardcore because if so I really liked the first as cities burn album

>>127146555
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEfRMXqwoVr2xmbO7G918BZ7OD6MY8VlH&si=Nc_7lY-WmjUA-hTf (ignore the paramore, MCR videos)

>>127146570
warning, the Thursdaysperg that seethes in MCR-specific threads is gonna freak out momentarily

>>127145906
Is this true?

>>127145906
can't rape the willing

I like MCR but mogged by this.

>>127146978
MCRTranny isn't gonna like this one bit

The guy who produced this album made better post-hardcore albums with his band the year before AND after it released.

>>127147120
Many are saying this

>>127147163
Poor things :*-( mentally challenged retards, we forgive you tho, its not your fault, but pls go back to playing in your padded room, we will play your post-hardcore slop so you calm down.
Btw glassjaw is a forgotten irrelevant band whose whole discography https://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?b=1713 is mogged by any single MCR song https://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?b=1334 But don't be sad, next time Gerard throws out a song, for being "not good enough/below him" both Thursday/glassjaw can finally have a hit, maybe their magnum opus too.

>>127146978
Thursday is simply an opening act for the greatness of MCR. This garbage you posted, isn't fit even for being Gerard's janitors, given their lackluster talent, they probably work at Macdonalds.

>>127146555
>all of those bands sound very very different to me.
that's because 1) it's a stupid term that is basically meaningless 2) rymers are painfully autistic and think that assigning genre tags is a deeply creative act and whoever assigns the weirdest genres wins
anyway the genre is supposed to be music that uses the elements for hardcore punk but mixes them all up to create something that is NOT hardcore punk, but you can see how quickly that unravels.

>>127146555
>all of those bands sound very very different to me.
that's because 1) it's a stupid term that is basically meaningless 2) rymers are painfully autistic and think that assigning genre tags is a deeply creative act and whoever assigns the weirdest genres wins.
anyway the genre is supposed to be music that uses the elements of hardcore punk but mixes them all up to create something that is NOT hardcore punk, but you can see how quickly that unravels.

>>127147537
cringe. kill yourself

>>127146865
Uhh.. Raped much?

>>127147537
You are trying too hard

Strong start to a record that loses steam by the second half. Demolition Lovers is a great closer, but halos and that 9/11 song don't hold up. Thursday's Full Collapse / WATT are better.

>>127147852
>it's a stupid term that is basically meaningless
Just like Thursday/glassjaw
>>127148087
Compared to the 2 above mentioned bands, it would seem I put more effort on that comment, than they did on their discography, but I'm sure is just a lack of talent on their part.

>>127145708 (OP)
This isn’t post hardcore. This is mall emo for posers

>>127148326
Wrong

>>127148542
It isn’t post hardcore, no matter how much you screech and cry

>>127148558
I'm not screeching nor crying. Are you? Also, still wrong.

>>127145906
is this what the black parade is about?

>>127145708 (OP)
Even if you consider this post-hardcore it's not even a top 10 album in the genre

>>127148689
It wouldn’t be even top 1000000. It isn’t post hardcore at all

>>127148689
Correct, it's a top 5.
>>127148638
No, the Black Parade is the funeral of the inferior bands who died along the way, Thursday being only 1 example out of hundreds, MCR bid them all farewell, and went towards glory, leaving scene/emo/hardcore etc... behind, as a stepping stone.

>>127146978
lmao, no. Glassjaw is insanely overrated and I dont get why

>>127148793
honestly this is true. The Black Parade is the ascendance of a band to legendary status, all by album #3. What other band in the scene was doing an album of that depth and brilliance while still being accessible and memorable? Can't think of any except MCR. Then, instead of repeating their extremely successful formula, they completely changed it up on Danger Days and Conventional Weapons. And after all that, they quit while they were away ahead

schizo talking to himself thread

>>127146858
Topkek

>>127145708 (OP)
What other bands sound like this album?
Most post-hardcore I've heard doesn't really match it

>>127148927
Cry and Cope. How many albums has Thursday, or any of the bands mentioned here sold ? 0.5m ? 1m ? 2m ? MCR sold more albums than Thursday, glassjaw, Pierce the Veil, Sleeping With Sirens, Emery, Underoath, Bring Me the Horizon combined ! ! !, with only 4 albums MCR blew away the whole "emo" market, and defined what "emo" even meant, had they released 6, all the other bands would starve and break up, like a meteor, they burnt brightly illuminating the world for a short time, and went out on a high note, while all the other bands declined .

>>127149168
>t. mindbroken schizo samefagging again

>>127148793
>Correct, it's a top 5.
Kek

>>127149118
>>127149187
Why do you talk to yourself like that

>>127149185
You're the mind broken retard, "samefagging" is when you reply to yourself pretending to be someone else, I'm not interested in pretending to be dumb scum like you.

>>127149218
you seem pretty mindbroken right now lmao

>>127149185
>>127149185 #
You're the mind broken retard, "samefagging", you illiterate imbecile, is when you reply to yourself pretending to be someone else, I'm not interested in pretending to be dumb scum like you.

>>127149168
>like a meteor, they burnt brightly illuminating the world for a short time, and went out on a high note, while all the other bands declined
Based and poeticpilled.

>>127149230
Talking to a dumbass with the intelligence of a 5 years old like you, is tiring, not mindbreaking, have fun playing the clown tho, scum like you are good at nothing else.

>>127149118
Some moody post-punk and droney post-metal bands have a similar vibe imo (True Widow, Anna Von Hauswolff, Soror Dolorosa, Chelsea Wolfe, etc). Might just be me though - and in vibes only. As for stuff similar genre-wise I got nothing. The other "major" post-hardcore acts do nothing for me.

>>127149237
>>127149263
>>127149296
Be careful not to knock your fedora off when you samefag this hard

>way was just a fat comic book nerd trapped in the body of an anorexic twink the entire time
kino

>>127149305
meds

Honey is extremely underrated. They barely even play it live. In fact they barely play anything from this album bar like 2 songs. They should drop the DD slop from their setlists and focus on Bullets instead.

>>127148250
Again, trying incredibly hard

>>127145898
its more like Fugazi, at the drive in, mars Volta, la dispute, mewithoutyou, orchid

there was a time where metal core bands that had singing parts were called post-hardcore by mall kids (13 year olds) and the term stuck with them as well
asking Alexandria, bring me the horizon, mcr etc. etc.

>>127148638
More like the BLACKED Parade after they caught Gerard alone in that alley. The funeral metaphor is obviously about the death of his asshole's original shape

>>127145708 (OP)
Happy 23rd Birthday, gorgeous.

>>127150286
older than three quarters of current /mu/. sad times.

>>127148793
I'm pretty sure >>127150123 nailed it. Some of the omitted lyrics for Teenagers were "black teenagers fuck the living shit out of me. do it again, you've got a bussy to breed" so it's pretty blatant. Probably why it sounds so urgent. Gerard NEEDED that BBC. Poor fella. He didn't stand a chance.

>>127150571
Gay hands typed this post.

>>127150806
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>>127150286
Amazing I had no idea. I don't know why MCR themselves don't love this album more. It's a very strong debut and I'd say a lot of people don't know about it.

>>127150806
I'm well aware gay hands typed your post.

>>127149353
I'd love to see MCR/Gerard evolve through other genres, I see his revenge/emo era as his glam rock moment, and TBP as Thin White Duke, a pity he never bothered to name his characters. He's 48 now, the same age Bowie was when Outside came out, would be a blessing to see MCR experiment with prog, shoegaze, goth/space rock, synth etc... I'd just hope no return to pop punk/emo, as much as I love Revenge, I'd like to one day look back at their history, and see a similar evolution.
https://youtu.be/6pXoQ6iYO1w?si=j1J8rB6qpLBBIuk6 =>
https://youtu.be/23IdK0yZMvE?si=wOtxMSGyEbu1QVX9
https://youtu.be/S4R8HTIgHUU?si=wWxw9ENfn2IUAZrO

>>127151069
I hope he got better at fighting off groups of black men so he doesn't have to endure that sizzling summer of 2002 all over again

>>127151069
There's some striking similarities between Bowie and Way, if you think about it. And it's a little creepy just how good the MCR Under Pressure cover is.

>>127151143
Yes. Lots of similarities. They were both gay talentless hacks and they were both rape victims.