Why can't they make good music?

they do

they have rammstein, that's more than most other yuro countries can say

We need a start with the Germans chart like /lit/ has start with the Greeks.

>>127164665
lol

>>127164718
they used to have tons of electronic bands/artists 10-15 years ago but they all retired or sold out

Europeans outside the UK have always sucked at popular music.

Beethoven was Dutch in ancestry and lived big time in Vienna.

Keeper at the seven keys pt. 1 is great, Nightfall in middle earth is great, some krautrock records are pretty good, some synth pop songs from the 80s are nice to chill listening to, Kraftwerk has some great records...

>>127164535 (OP)
>blind guardian
>scorpions
>avantasia
>kreator
>helloween
>accept

they made the best metal music, aside from usa

127164896 British heavy metal is aeons ahead of whatever comes out of continental europe, cope.

>>127164920
euros make better electro than bongs tho

The Holocaust.

>>127164870
Dutch is German

Rammstein is the loudest heaviest concert I have ever seen by far. I have seen Metallica x 3, Maiden, Seputura x 2, Soulfly, Tool, Slayer x 4, Morbid Angel, Municipal Waste x 2, Nile, Hatebreed x 2, Earth Crisis, Madball, Sick Of IT All, Pennywise, Crossed Out, Black Flag, Circle Jerks and many more.

>>127164920
Brits should stick to plain rock, they have nothing on the Scandinavian metal.

>>127164721
This. Mozart & Beethoven should be required listening. Like, seriously, self-proclaimed music aficionados posting about "rock music"??? How embarassing

>>127164896
add primal fear, freedom call and powerwolf and you're right

bonus points for van canto for being a metal acapella that actually sounds good too

>>127164535 (OP)
ahem

https://old.bitchute.com/video/0x4gE3HwF5Pz/

Problem?

>>127164895
Literally nothing since the 90s. Except maybe for some grumpy old man punk from Hamburg.
Video unrelated
https://youtu.be/wNmnoyhbi8k?si=u11Tkdyx4O31tQj6

Ton Steine Scherben - Wir müssen hier raus!

this track alone mogs 1/2 of Europe!

>>127166625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gHEhmhmjj8

Reise, Reise, Seemann, Reise
Und die Wellen weinen leise
>this is as good as it gets

Tocotronic – Wir sind hier nicht in Seattle, Dirk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVub2aQjJvw

early Tocotronic is awesome.

>>127164896
Running Wild also kicks ass

>>127164535 (OP)
They already peaked with 18th and 19th century classical music, which is the peak of Western civilization. Now it's just wiggers and Turks. Music has already died as a serious art form, so it doesn't really matter that they're not relevant anymore.

>>127164920
>metal
>music
lol no

>>127164535 (OP)
>he doesn't know

>>127164721
The cult around Germans in classical has little basis outside of 19th century nationalist propaganda and Schenkerian autofellatio. None of the German composers do anything better than the Italians they were imitating, quite often they make it worse.

>>127167831
Every italian baroque composition sounds the same

>>127164535 (OP)
>Makes literally all the best Powermetal music

>>127164535 (OP)
German culture inherently rewards conformity and mediocrity.

>>127164824
I am listening to this album right now when I saw this thread.

https://youtu.be/CtEO5xzyqZQ

>>127164535 (OP)
why do you keep making gay bait threads?

>>127164535 (OP)
they made krautrock, that already makes them better than all but 2 countries

>>127164535 (OP)
HU! HA! HU! HA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maFlRR-zt4g
>honestly, more bands should do the “bunch of singers and guy who only exists to dance thing”

>>127164535 (OP)
uhm excuse me?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQHsRNd_Lew

>>127168319
reminder that this song exists because one man invaded hundreds, raped thousands and killed millions

>>127168080
/thread

Germans invented and perfected noir jazz, so they're alright in my book.

>>127164860
What a horrible take, just checkout Spain, Julio Iglesias alone is carrying Europe

>>127164535 (OP)
Too much overthinking and high level autism for something groovy for the masses. And if they do go groovy, they just become gay. There's no middle ground.

Modern Talking
Alphaville

heavily underrated and underappreciated music

>>127164535 (OP)
They can though, at least in techno

>>127168319
On a related note, wasn’t Rasputin also by a German band

>>127164535 (OP)
>dozens of the biggest classic composers
>literally invented electronic music
>Scorpions
>Rammstein
I think you just feel that way cause most of the good ones sing in german and no one is willing to give those songs a chance

>>127164535 (OP)
Kill yourself. zoomer.

>>127169098
The Scorpions could play well enough but their songs were always bland and they had very little to say in songwriting terms.

>>127164920
brits haven't been relevant in metal since the 80s

>>127167831
>The cult around Germans in classical has little basis outside of 19th century nationalist propaganda and Schenkerian autofellatio.
Ironically, this post does exactly what it accuses "the cult around Germans" of doing: projecting some weird, insecure obsession with nationality onto music. It reeks of resentment, likely in reaction to the fact that Germans created musicology and built a canon around their composers; as did many nations in the 19th century, including Italy. The difference is, the German canon happened to be so rich and influential, that it gradually absorbed the best from other traditions too, by merit of course.
>None of the German composers do anything better than the Italians they were imitating, quite often they make it worse.
The idea that, for example, Frescobaldi or early Italians represent some unreachable peak of keyboard music, while Bach and Handel merely "imitated and worsened" them, is hilariously uncultured; straight up just tryhard contrarianism.

>>127168370
too bad they became zion and putin shills....

>>127170883
>zion
based
>putin shills
yeah grim

>>127164721
The Germans were good at form, counterpoint, harmony, melodic lines, voice leading, thoroughbass , timbre, colour, thematic development, rythmns
The British were good at creating music

>>127168319
MOSKAU MOSKAU
WIRF DIE GLÄSER AN DIE WAND
RUSSLAND IST EIN SCHÖNES LAND
HO HO HO HO HO HEY!

Only good music to come from Germany is from the great classical composers and maybe Nena for 99 Red Balloons

>>127164535 (OP)
A contemporary song that I like
https://youtu.be/BUE3V3zWY3E?si=aF3_zIiQUaJQc7fJ

>>127164535 (OP)
They do but they're not part of the 5 Eyes so they don't get selected to be part of "the culture" unless they fulfill a particular role for the people who control the media.

>>127170929
>The British were good at creating music
The British were good at controlling the airwaves and print media.

>>127164860
France is pretty good
>Daft Punk
>Justice
>Air
>M83
>Gojira
>Phoenix
Etc

>>127164535 (OP)
They do.

>>127164535 (OP)
dude, Dieter Boehlein

>>127168080
>>127168764
>>127164535 (OP)
Retards, the greatest music ever composed is German. Pop music isn't music.

No album by any other country is better than Meistersinger von Nurnberg, you can cope but its the truth. German music is perfection

>Retards, the greatest music ever composed is German. Pop music isn't music.

>No album by any other country is better than Meistersinger von Nurnberg, you can cope but its the truth. German music is perfection

I like listening to German techno and nodding my head to the beat!

>>127175174
The British were good at having citizens of Irish descent