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Remixed by Steven Wilson Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrJIx1zzPC0 [Embed]
What is Progressive Rock?
>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/Good albums to start with?
>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.pngObscure prog gems
>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/Previously, on /prog/:
>>127167030
ONCE THREE FRIENDS
SWEET IN SADNESS
NOW PART OF THEIR PAST
/prog/? more like /proog/
>https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/phil-collins-hospitalized-knee-surgery-1235394918/
>Phil Collins Recovering From Knee Surgery in Hospital
>Representatives for the musician clarified the nature of his hospitalization after rumors spread online that he was receiving hospice care
I blame Tony for this
>>127209148I'm not prepared for this
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why is it so hard to find the giles giles and fripp version of I talk to the wind without some woman singing over it?
I thought fripp loosened up
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>>127209248Sorry, I just realized I screwed the youtube link
>>127209756Here's one
https://youtu.be/_nD2IJ_J5wc
>>127209796thank you based OP
>>127209068 (OP)Everything I like is prog.
Everything I dislike is art rock (inferior genre, derivative of prog).
Deal with it.
>>127210784Art rock? More like FART rock amirite
>>127209068 (OP)fun idea ruined by tranime, what else is new
>>127211068correct and based
>>127209068 (OP)90s Belew is so awesome, bros.
Big big train sucks thoughever.
>>127211068Isn't Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré literally about an ancient Egyptian pharaoh?
>>127210961https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbC0evIHkDo
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progressive rock
listening to post-DSOTM Pink Floyd, trying not to fall asleep.
>>127212037WYWH was their last good album
unironic question: why is anime cringe?
>>127212443Modern anime is cringe. Even the worsy OVAs from the 80s have animation and storytelling competence to blow most new stuff out of the water.
>>127210961Macca is more prog than standalone Gilmour
>>127212722He’s arguably the godfather of prog
>>127212443>squeaky nip voices>overacted, exaggerated, melodramatic delivery of lines>choppy animation>sameface syndrome>fandom
>>127211761"What do you think I'm going to do? Blow my brains out?"
>>127212802interesting points. elaborate?
>>127212552>Even the worst OVAs from the 80s have animation and storytelling competence to blow most new stuff out of the water.Come on now, even the people who mostly consume 80s OVAs don't actually believe this.
>>127213292NTA, but
>squeaky nip voicesthey talk like little children
>overacted, exaggerated, melodramatic delivery of linesrelated with the first point, they act like children, the humor is childish
>choppy animationdepends on which anime
>sameface syndromemost animes have all the characters with the same face, but they change the color of the hair and the eyes
>fandommost anime fans act like little children
>>127212552>>127214082One of the weirdest things zoomers who glorify old anime do is fetishize old ovas when 90% of the time ovas were created by tiny independant studios in their basement who didn't have the money or talent to make a movie or TV series.
Most ovas were garbage of the lowest order with unfinished animation, nonsensical plots that amount to "moeblob gets raped" and often ended without a conclusion
>>127211109Anime website, tourist.
I love anime!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvZR7BO2aIU
>>127209132More like /preg/
>>127214174I use OVAs as an example because they were a bit of a fad in the 80s and 90s and a lot of low effort product got pumped out, but a lot of it is still more sovlful than today's shit.
This is the central scrutinizer
>>127211761Chicago II got a Steven Wilson remix so they're officially prog
>>127215160One day you'll find a response to comments like mine that doesn't make you sound like a fat pus-covered neckbeard, I believe in you, tranon.
>>127212443Anime itself is usually fine but the types of people who disproportionately obsess over anime are so lifeless and unremarkable that they make prog genre autism dorks look like Samuel L. Jackson or George Clooney by comparison.
>>127212802These are all fair points too but when a show actually manages to have solid characters and story, you can ignore it most of the time. But yeah, no matter how "adult and mature" some of their themes and subject matter may be, most of the time it's handled with this weird sort of child-like clumsiness. Young adult novels commit many of the same sins, but you will never be able to reason with the hormonal teens that love this stuff.
>>127209376/prog/ gets his health updates like twice a month, it's just about the only thing any of us have been prepared for
>>127209376>>127216471I CAN FEEL IT
PULLING ME TOWARDS THE LIGHT
OH LAWD
>>127216527>*Drum fill*>Phil falls off his chair and dies
>>127211761true progheads have known this
>>127216758poor sod cant even drum no more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAbAR1Eu6UE
>>127216360>most of the time it's handled with this weird sort of child-like clumsiness. Young adult novels commit many of the same sins, but you will never be able to reason with the hormonal teens that love this stuff.alternatives?
What's some /prog/ approved scifi? Aside from the obvious ones like I Robot and War of the Worlds.
>>127217457hbo and bbc one have been solid for me lately
>>127216287cool i might listen to that
>>127209148>>127216527>>127216758>74 years oldJesus he looks at least 15 years older than that
>>127217516If only he did CTA too. That recent remix by the other guy was an all-time atrocity.
>>127217529alcoholism's a bitch
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Acknowledge Steve Hillage
>>127211761It’s unfortunate that Terry Kath gets all the attention from music buffs. They were all so OP as instrumentalists it’s not even funny. Even Cetera, however anyone feels about him as a singer-songwriter, was a damn good bassist.
>>127218373he's the best Steve H. on prog guitar, as far as I'm concerned
>>127219005yeah steve h.
steve howe.
>>127219030>>127219005howe > hillage > hackett
holdsworth is not a steve, but he's high up there too
Listening to National Health
>>127220426>Another day in paralysis
>listening to ITCOCK
>schizoid man is amazing
>next song is some symphony of the night end credits bullshit
Wtf is 21st going to be the only good song
>>127209153>finishes massive retirement tour making tons of money>immediately mixes Phil out of the mortal planeBanksGODs stay winning
>>127220552back to the metal general or video game music thread you go, pleb
>>127220579I THINK I TALK TO THE WIND SUCKS
>>127209148I hate thinking of my appreciation for people based on how sad I will be when they die, but man it's gonna hurt.
>>127220592OK epitaph is pretty good so I don't know wtf Mr Crimson was thinking with that I Talk To The Wind
Lost Rick Wright interview from 2000, basically saying that Roger is a hack and David is full of shit
https://www.loudersound.com/bands-artists/i-formed-this-band-for-gods-sake-and-i-helped-roger-a-hell-of-a-lot-because-he-wasnt-a-musician-when-we-started-the-lost-richard-wright-interview
>>127216782Man, that’s sad. He used to be so spry and quick witted.
>>127220587I think you suck!
>>127220747He really discounts Wet Dream but that and Broken China are the 2 best Floyd solo albums.
AIDS SPREADING BOY ADOPTING CHILD GROOMING CHILD RAPING MONKEYPOX SPREADING HEALTH FOOD FAGGOT
>>127220552>I'M 11 AND TESTOSTERONE GO BURRRRRRRR
>>127220552Wow Moonchild is shit.
I apologize about the gay Wind song.
>>127221012You just keep getting filtered, son
>>127209148>>127209376>>127220627It'll suck because you know there will be dozens of internet people coming out of the woodwork to shit on him as if Sussudio still dominates the airwaves.
I think Invisible Touch is the groups undisputed masterpiece
>>127221070And the obligatory Guardian buzzkill piece
>Yes Phil Collins was a music legend but don't forget he maybe allegedly voted tory 30 years ago!
For me, it's For Absent Friends
I'm going to listen to so much Brand X when Phil kicks the bucket. Still some of my favorite jazz fusion drumming ever.
I'll listen to brand x but only the Bruford stuff
>>127222193Tarkus was awful
Tarkus was almost as bad as I Talk To The Wind
>>127222247I talk to the wind
My words are all carried away
oh nononono tarkussisters???
what is it progressing towards?
>>127222221You’re awful, murray
>>127222615I'm awful? Oh yeah how am I awful?
What's the difference between Starless and Starless and Bible Black?
>>127223233One's a song and one's an album
>>127223851i thought they were hentai
>>127222336who drew this?
do you think Mike Oldfield ever heard Atom Heart Mother?
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>>127216527>>127216758>*DUN DUN, DUN DUN, DUN DUN, DUN DUN, DU-DUN*>*thud*
>>127218632Soundtrack by a former member of Tangerine Dream.
For me, its Dodo / Lurker
>>127219630For me, it's The Collapso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3dlt1TGAKo
>>127222381towards a world where i destroy that fat bussy
>>127225660https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock
>>127225467TOO BIIIIIIIIIIIIIG
>>127222381agrarian communism
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hgWaO9VO4KM
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A Rick Wright instrumental with wordless female wailing has 100x more emotional impact than any lyrics Roger ever wrote. No wonder he resented him so much.
>>127225279I know, the music is very cozy and kino in that show. Aged really well too, unlike the fx and the acting.
>>127228167pol pot is /prog/ approved
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The Final Cut is my dad's favorite Floyd album, unironically
>>127231253sorry about your grandpa
>>127212443ignore them, anime one of the last good artistic mediums there is, they are still being written independently with no J writers, so of course Mutts will complain about it.
>>127231843Rog's nickname for Polly Samson
>>127231843Every word demonstrably true
I FEAR TOMORROW I'LL BE CRYIIIIIIING
Whenever I listen to Cinema Show, I skip to the next song immediately after the last verse.
>>127220573Are you one of those strange horrible creatures who posts on /sp/?
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The In the Cage/Cinema Show medley on Three Sides Live is orgasmic
Not gonna lie bros I skipped Moonchild
Court was mostly brilliant but Wind and Moonchild really bring it down
>>127225660>>127226588>crescendo-coreleave my thread, please, rymdrones
>>127223851ackschyually, both are songs
it's just that the second one sucks, like half of its album
>>127232654This but unironically about Moonchild (and Providence)
>>127232796>the second one sucks, like half of its album'tarded opinion
>>127232868>rating Starless and Bible Blackit's just a wasted album
plenty of great ideas in there that could have been worked in the studio, but were put out terribly and with awful production
half the time you can barely hear the solos, and the music sounds all muffled
the band was at their creative peak, it could have been one of their masterpieces, yet it sounds like an extras release for Larks
also, the cover is fucking awful
>>127232907i pretty much have to mention in passing that i surprisingly agree with pretty much all this as well
>>127233282Rush peaked in the 80s
>>127232907but health food faggot
>>127212443>unironic question: why is anime cringe?
>>127232907kek, you will never understand music, you are a pleb and a retard that can't get passed muh sound quality and cover art, you don't even like music, you should try /wpop/.
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>>127233941I just realized how out of place Tatu is here
>>127232961fuck off you stupid zoomer faggot with your gay meme word, you have shit taste.
>>127232907>you can barely hear the solos, and the music sounds all muffledthese are both good things
>>127209068 (OP)do you guys like the steven wilson mixes of classic prog albums
>>127234907I like his work with Tull, but what I've heard from Yes and KC is just so-so. I mentioned it before but his Chicago II mix is great.
Why are so many prog bands English?
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Holy fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4clpGEnZz0o
>>127235313prog indulged in classical and folk influences, both genres that England enjoyed a lot
continental Europe didn't have as much rock music culture, but some countries developped their own prog scenes (Italy and Germany being the most proeminent ones)
and classical music never had the same appeal in the US, which made them blend rock with jazz, making fusion
>>127233941>anime Yes album cover looks like it could be a Ys game box artkino upon kino
>>127235313Britain and most European countries had public radio and TV that provided underground rock music a mass platform that didn't really exist in the US, and it directly helped expand the scene. John Peel started at the BBC in 1967 and immediately began featuring bands from the cutting edge of psych rock, experimental and folk, which would soon coalesce into prog rock, and the whole country got the chance to hear it instead of small pockets in individual cities, and more or less the same thing played out on the continent. The broadcast connection is not one that's talked about much at all in the genre's rise as a uniquely British/European phenomenon, but it should be.
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>>127235392The album art is from shingyouji tatsuya, he was a artist on the "cream lemon" games from the 1980s and early 1990s. That is why his style looks like old RPGs.
>>127233547I'd hope so. When I saw them in the 70s they sucked.
>>127234907He ruined Lizard.
the ringing of the division bell has begun
bongbongbongBONGBONG
>Gives Nick Mason sole credit for Speak to Me so he'd earn some royalties on the side
>Turns around after quitting the band and says "no actually fuck you, I wrote the album and you deserve nothing"
Seriously what is his fucking deal?
>>127235646>Beautiful album cover ruined by anime.BUT IT'S KIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
>>127237098>antisemite is the most jewishreally makes you think
>>127228562https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyepHQggmQk
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>>127235646>shingyouji tatsuya, he was a artist on the "cream lemon" games Don't you mean the Cream Lemon anime? I don't recall there being a Cream Lemon game.
He's the artist and character designer for a lot of Cream Lemon, which were a series of 80s loli hentai/ecchi OVAs
I didn't know he as still around making art.
>>127240247Correct but there were also multiple cream lemon VN games. It was an early multimedia franchise they got games, anime and manga. the success of visual novels as a genre more or less traces back to them. As they were all stand alone stories they could cover genres from fantasy to sci fi to just their tradition "lesbian rich woman molesting her maids in the mansion" settings.
>>127240581No, it's shit.
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Got some good LP’s today
>>127241467I miss that, the randomness of thrift store finds and such.
>>127241467I rate it 2 Jon Andersons out of 3
>>127241467What is the middle album?
>>127242132Jon Anderson’s solo album
>>127241467My regular record store never has any KC vinyl in stock and it pisses me the fuck off
>>127241467Nice. I have Tarkus on vinyl. I always wanted Lizard though.
>>127235331>makes their new cockrock stoner fans sit through over an hour of unreleased mostly instrumental music before getting to DSOTMBased
Learning to Fly is the best Pink Floyd song
>>127232867Gain taste, ya faggot. Providence is in their top 3 improvs
>>127241467sis I thought you said good albums?
>>127243251>top 3 improvs
>>127221012It's far from their best improv, I'll say that much.
>dude if you don't like the literal joke filler song (moonchild) then you just got LE FILTERED
When does the retarded contrarianism end
The Mars Volta is prog
Do you guys like them? Inb4 someone says "mariachi Slipknot"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5jcgJ3RNpo
>>127243844Didn't they complain that people were sheep for daring to mosh at a concert
Also isn't the lead singer named something like Gonzalez Arriba Sanchez but can't speak Spanish
Also also isn't he a Scientologist
Also also also I THINK AT THE DRIVE IN SUCKS
>>127228562>first part: death is an unfortunate sadness>middle part: death is an existential nightmare>last part: death is inevitable and must be acceptedRick really was a genius composer
>>127228562gay
gay triangle
>>127243856>Also also isn't he a ScientologistNo I think he gave that up
>Also also also I THINK AT THE DRIVE IN SUCKSThey're good though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La8vw883Ai4
>>127243972>posts the single good at the drive through song
>>127243856>Didn't they complain that people were sheep for daring to mosh at a concertthe music is good
>Also isn't the lead singer named something like Gonzalez Arriba Sanchez but can't speak Spanishthe music is good
>Also also isn't he a Scientologistthe music is good
>Also also also I THINK AT THE DRIVE IN SUCKShaven't listened to it
Poseidon is better than Court, shrimple as
>>127244353Epitaph is better than Poseidon. You get early versions of the songs that became Poseidon, performed by the superior lineup and without the rehashed filler.
>>127244375>poseidon has filler>oh but moonchild isn't
>>127242305A store I went to a lot before I found a more local shop usually had a few King Crimson any time I went, but they were always at least $25. You'd be better off buying off ebay or discogs. It is located in a kinda upper middle class area, so they probably get away with it just fine.
>>127240581>70s soft rock with a few extra synthesizersno
Hi, /prog/. I heard you've been talking some shit about me lately. Anything you wanna say directly to my face, chums?
>>127245377fuckin love me xbox
never had one as a kid and got one yesterday, been playing ninja gaiden and panzer dragoon orta on it
>>127245355>soft rockbased retard
wtf is a porcupine tree anyway
>>127245377The Overview was nice but forgettable
>>127210961Is Gilmour's wife a better lyricist than Roger? Would Pink Floyd have been better if it had been Polly writing the songs instead of Roger? We'll never know.
>>127209148>>127216527>>127216758What happened to Phil's face? He looked good for his age, but then suddenly he started to look like a 100-year-old toothless meth addict.
>>127231253Is your dad in his early 60s?
>>127246327delusional todd cocksucker
Holy shit Cardiacs are back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTRaHsKKlXA
And apparently Vennart from Oceansize is their lead singer now
>>127248719He nearly drank himself to death about 15 years ago
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Rush played their final show 10 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5UVc7Oc_i8
>>127249219>band called Cardiacs >front man dies from a heart attackwho writes this shit
>Roger Waters, once the lead singer of Pink Floyd, was sufficiently inspired by a book of mine to produce a CD called Amused to Death. This fact so elevated my prestige among undergraduates that I am hardly in a position to repudiate him or his kind of music. Nor do I have the inclination for any other reason. Nonetheless, the level of sensibility required to appreciate the music of Roger Waters is both different and lower than what is required to appreciate, let us say, a Chopin étude.
What’s the point of listening to prog bands if early genesis is the best of them all?
Genesis stopped being good after Disc 1 of the Lamb.
>>127253219Postman is such a fucking retard
>dude we're like *hits bong*>amusing ourselves to death bro>if you dare do anything other than sleep and work you are amusing yourself to death>it's literally impossible to care about things AND care about the arts bro>oh but buying my book doesn't count :^)
>>127254569I don't even fully agree with his thesis but that's absolutely not what it is.
>TV and computers are making us dumber>we are literally living in brave new world maaaaaan>muh kids these days don't write anymore>we must retvrn to 19th century standards of discourseI think a lot of his observations of media were right on the money but the overall argument was hampered by unrealistically elitist expectations and sentimentality for the past.
>character is named postman
>he's actually a writer
What is the best album of all time and why is it The Lamb Lays Down on Broadway?
Reminder Tony Banks isn't even the best Tony in Genesis
But the best album of all time is Jeff Waynes Musical Version of The War of the Worlds or Crime of the Century THOUGH?
>>127254728Ant has never gone by "Tony"
>>127254717On brand for him to be named after a medium of information delivery that predates electronics.
>>127248752soft rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMjOGh72i2s
>spice ice dance chance sickly grin
...wut?
What does /prog/ think of Gerard?
>>127255073clearly presaged ice spice twerking
>>127253449yeah.
but, to look for something that can come close, i guess
>>127255220that is so gerard
>>127254569I bet he's a Zionist too, dismissing Roger like that
>>127255672The quote is 30 years old so I doubt that was a factor
Most hated member of /prog/
>Fripp
>Banks
>SWilson
Take your pick
>>127255739it's just one spammer
>>127252066>band called Chicago>is from Chicagowho writes this shit
>>127209376so what will his sticky song be?
>>127255831>band called Japan>is from Englandfalse advertising
>band is called asia
>they're american
>band is called UK
>theyre OK
>band is called
>they don't come out
>where are they
>>127209376What benefit does Phil's continued life have for you? Do you talk to him? Does he have any upcoming tours or new studio music coming? Would anything be different if he died two years ago vs two years from now?
>>127245377You're the greatest musician of all time
>be bullied
>have abusive home life
>no gf
>no friends
>my single solace is I get to have fun on my xbox
>listen to the newest porcupine tree album
>steve tells me if you ever touched a videogame in your life then you should kill yourself
>>127256971steven was truking here
>band is called
>they come out
>it's tony boby billy and belew
>they sing and play for me
>mfw i'm getting my haircut
Since when are we a Kita general
When the sun beats down
I lie on me bench
I can always hear /prog/ talk
>>127255902Originally Asia were all British. Has there ever even been an American in the band?
>>127257697This is now a Megumin general
>>127258520John Payne, the singer who replaced Wetton was American.
>>127255757I'm Ratledge hater and also and avid Fripp hater
frankly I have a hard time picking which one I hate the most
Ratledge was vastly more skilled and talented than Fripp, but his wasn't as great after he cowardly kicked off Wyatt
at the same time, Fripp is a mediocre and lame dipshit guitarist who was lucky enough to be around many talented musicians, enough to put out a few great albums in different formations - despite his constant underminings and autistic fits
it is a hard pick
>>127231255This is Pink Floyd, retard
>>127258963Based Ratledge hater
Ratledge has a much worse career post-Wyatt so I really don't think it should be a hard pick at all
>>127258963Matching Mole > Soft Machine
>>127258556it is and has always been a Sxarp General
>Sxarp.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdzoa_krp8
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How did 70's prog nerds react when all their favorite musicians became top-of-the-charts pop rock stars
>>127263705It can happen to you, it can happen to me, it can happen to everyone eventually
>>127263705Yes hadn't made a good album for like 8 years by this point. No expectations left for them by this point
>>127260785Soft Mole > Matching Machine
Progressive Rock is a NAZI genre with a NAZI following, it is a genre that celebrates European culture.
>>127264310If NAZIs loved the European culture so much why were they destroying Europe
>>127264359they were fixing it
>>127258963>at the same time, Fripp is a mediocre and lame dipshit guitarist who was lucky enough to be around many talented musicians, enough to put out a few great albums in different formations - despite his constant underminings and autistic fitsFripp is one of the true geniuses of modern music and a godsend to anyone who is attracted to prog for the experimental and cavalier attitude it started with. You don't have a career as long as Fripp's, working with as many hugely talented people as he has by accident. It's also not by random chance that most of these peoples best work was with Fripp (especially in King Crimson). I've seen people credit Ian MacDonald and others for giving Fripp a career in the first place with their talents but what Did Ian do after KC? Nothing he did after even came close to his work in ITCOCK. MacDonald could have been viewed as one of the great songwriters of his time if he had kept up with KC but instead his lack of ambition and taste led up to true mediocrity with Foreigner (Who he wasn't even the face of). Even if every era of KC doesn't hit for you you have to admire the conviction to keep pushing in different directions and trying new things. How many prog guys from the 60-70s were doing things as interesting as the ProjecKts 30-40 years into their careers?
>>127263854Relayer and Drama are great nigga
any Prog like Rachmaninov Paganini Rhapsody or Piano Concerto No. 2?
>>127264310What about jazz fusion
>>127264366make sure to pull the trigger AFTER biting down on the capsule
>>127264419No they're not
>nigga
>>127264577Stilp better than Tony's entire solo career
>>127264366Did they fix Roger's dad too
>>127264476looks like the "jazz fusion isn't really prog" autists were proven correct yet again
>>127265162THIS IS NOT A DRILL
ROGER WATERS IS GAY
>>127265162THIS IS NOT A DRILL
ISRAEL IS GETTING NUKED TONIGHT
>>127265162Kneel to the king of /prog/
>>127265292What does he think about prog actually? I know Dave doesn't care
>>127265331He'd probably claim he invented it and deserves all the credit
>>127265340La creatividaddy...
>>127265162live from prog
>>127265162*blocks your path*
holyshit
Miley Cyrus Something Beautiful IS PROG
https://youtu.be/y2nu8zpVBmY
>>127265645Is this a sequel to Porcupine Tree's Start of Something Beautiful
>>127264430Muse
https://youtu.be/eG6wu3jqLAU?si=TE1zGDqzdBcFIp9-
>>127265645I knew she was prog when that moog dropped in Party In The USA.
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