Were Changes and FX really necessary?

>>127258754 (OP)
FX was alright but Changes was slow sappy crap akin to a late 80s hair metal power ballad.

>>127258754 (OP)
Yes just like all that cocaine was necessary

Changes is one of the best ballads, you'll understand once you're done having puberty

>>127258754 (OP)
FX was pointless
Changes was actually cool

Certainly added variety.

>>127258947
Changes is shit, you'll understand once you're done having a listen to the whole album.

Necessary for what?

Changes is a beautiful, simple song.

>>127258754 (OP)
Changes was great, you fucking chud

>hating on Changes
NGMI

>>127258754 (OP)
Actually yes.
While I often skip Changes myself, it's a good song, and FX is a great introduction to Supernaut.

And now, ladies and gentleman, the queen of Soul, ARETHA FRANKLIN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_7DC6qSlzs&list=RDG_7DC6qSlzs&start_radio=1

And now, let's all sit back and relax while Keith Moon recites oetry over the blissful sounds of Laguna Sunrise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xieq9zOynos&list=RDXieq9zOynos&start_radio=1

Somehow I had never listened to vol 4 before despite having heard all the other classic sabbath albums and holy shit supernaut might be a top 5 song of theirs

>>127261217
POETRY

>>127261418
Based. It's definitely in mine.

Only incels hate changes

The opening riff to St Vitus' Dance is my fav moment on the album, just edging out Supernaut by the width of a cigarette paper.

>>127261612
>width
Thickness, rather

>>127261418
>>127261436
For me it's Snowblind.

>>127258754 (OP)
Anyone else love Wheels of Confusion?

>>127261632
GOAT song and great way to start the album

Changes is Ozzy’s only number 1 single after all

>>127261632
my favourite Sabbath song. probably because it was my first.

>>127258754 (OP)
It gave some black ass some fame, fags be like, it's even better than the original

>>127261418
I wanna reach out and touch the sky

>>127263537
Just americans and their negro worshipping ways

My new favorite Ozzy story is when he went down into the audience during a Black Sabbath gig and beat the shit out of some asshole who was beating up a ten year old kid.

>>127261632
WAS IT ILLUSION?!!?

Very weirdly ordered album. Changes/FX/Laguna Sunrise should have been bookends for the sides rather than random shit filling the middle of each.

>>127263556
I WANNA TOUCH THE SUN BUT I DON'T NEED TO FLY

>>127261632
Wheels of Confusion +Snowblind carry this album

>>127261418
Better late than never

>>127258754 (OP)
FX was an alright transition song that many would adopt later. Changes is a meh radio-friendly song that ironically enough many would adopt later a well

Changes is a great song, why not include it? From your perspective any song that wasn't metal or hard rock should be removed from Sabbath albums and that's bullshit. Remove Solitude off Paranoid? Go fuck yourself. Remove Embryo off Masters of Reality? No.

>>127266273
Fair point. I didn't like it but it has soul

>>127258754 (OP)
Most of their 70s albums have those kind of songs. It wasn't until Dio came along that Iommi realized that he should fill the albums with rockers

>>127266839
>Over and Over
>Lonely Is The Word
>Too Late
yeah, sure, too bad he also got rid of tempo changes because Dio didn't like them

>>127266839
>E5150
>Stonehenge
>The Dark
>Sphinx (The Guardian)
>The Gates of Hell
>The Battle of Tyr
yeah he never dropped them

Changes is pure sovl (Solitude is still even better though) and FX is a mood and ambience. It sets up Supernaut well.
There. I solved it. FX finally clicked for me.

>>127258754 (OP)
Who the fuck hates Changes?

>>127268527
Bad people. Really bad people.

>>127258754 (OP)
I'd complain about the album's shit production over a decent song off said album

>>127268510
i don't hate Changes but i can easily skip it and not miss it.
FX could work as a set up, but it's too long and meandering for what it is. i hear no problem hearing Supernaut straight from Tomorrow's Dream, works quite well actually.

>>127261418

It was Frank Zappa's favorite Sabbath song.

>>127263571
2pac changes > sabbath changes

It isn't even close.

>>127268752
it was also John Bonham's favourite

>>127258798
kek

Was your miserable existence really necessary?

I love this album, but is it just me or do they not sound like themselves? It sounds like an album by a different band, not Black Sabbath
>>127261632
Hell yeah, the opening whiny riff is some of their best music

Changes:
>I've lost the best friend that I ever had
>She was my woman, I loved her so
>But it's too late now, I've let her go

Then literally the next album:
>Feel so happy since I met that girl
>When we're making love it's something out of this world
>Feels so good to know that she's all mine
>Going to love that woman till the end of time

What did he mean by this?

>>127261418
Under the Sun is awesome too. Great album.

>>127274397
Changes is about Ward going though a divorce.
SC, according to Geezer:
>"[Ozzy's] original lyrics were based on a sex tape we'd been listening to; in the studio where we were recording, they'd been recording English voiceovers on a German porno. Unfortunately, I changed them into a more 'acceptable' version."

>>127274742
Didn't know that, shit's hillarious