Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:54:24 PM No.127285182
Van Halen (Hagar era) > Van Halen (Lee Roth era)
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:21:29 PM No.127285344
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:34:32 PM No.127285413
>>127285182 (OP)
enjoy ur soccer mom music me and the boys will be rockin
enjoy ur soccer mom music me and the boys will be rockin
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:03:38 PM No.127285893
>>127285182 (OP)
It's not better, but it is a great band that intentionally wanted to write more commercial songs. 5150 is one of the best Van Halen albums overall and is on par with 1984 in terms of quality, kind of funny that they hit back-to-back. The problem with the Sammy era was that keyboard heavy love ballad singles were put out to try and garner success when songs like 5150 should have been the more remembered songs. So people associate Van Hagar more with "When It's Love" as opposed to Pleasure Dome.
It's not better, but it is a great band that intentionally wanted to write more commercial songs. 5150 is one of the best Van Halen albums overall and is on par with 1984 in terms of quality, kind of funny that they hit back-to-back. The problem with the Sammy era was that keyboard heavy love ballad singles were put out to try and garner success when songs like 5150 should have been the more remembered songs. So people associate Van Hagar more with "When It's Love" as opposed to Pleasure Dome.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:14:57 PM No.127285942
>>127285182 (OP)
the singles are very good but the rest of the albums are all sappy dreadful filler. meanwhile for the DLR era i'm hard-pressed to find any filler songs (outside of Diver Down anyway)
the singles are very good but the rest of the albums are all sappy dreadful filler. meanwhile for the DLR era i'm hard-pressed to find any filler songs (outside of Diver Down anyway)
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:24:33 PM No.127285983
>>127285182 (OP)
It helps when you realize that the "Hagar era" is really just Van Halen being Sammy Hagar's backing band for a few years.
And Sammy Hagar, whether it was with Montrose, Van Halen, solo, or with The Circle has always been better than anything DLR relased, simple as
It helps when you realize that the "Hagar era" is really just Van Halen being Sammy Hagar's backing band for a few years.
And Sammy Hagar, whether it was with Montrose, Van Halen, solo, or with The Circle has always been better than anything DLR relased, simple as
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:35:08 PM No.127286044
>>127285983
>And Sammy Hagar, whether it was with Montrose, Van Halen, solo, or with The Circle has always been better than anything DLR relased, simple as
lol
>And Sammy Hagar, whether it was with Montrose, Van Halen, solo, or with The Circle has always been better than anything DLR relased, simple as
lol
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:05:25 PM No.127286236
>>127285983
>anything DLR released
mmmm kinda but no.
DLR was always carried by his backing band, which for the first few solo albums was fucking awesome because he got absolute A-list musicians (Steve Vai / Billy Sheehan / Gregg Bissonette) but fell off sharply with Little Aint Enough and never really recovered.
But yeah if you watch videos of the Skyscraper tour, the whole magic is the backing band, Dave's already reheating decade-old shtick which was wearing very thin by then. And the later DLR solo stuff and van halen "reunion" stuff, he's just talking through the lyrics, not even trying to sing.
In contrast, Sammy was a proper front man, in that he was musically competent enough to hold his own, even when standing next to a guy like EVH.
your point about VH being Sammy's backing band is apt, and they were a great backing band for him, e.g. the Van Halen version of One Way to Rock was much stronger than any of the solo Sammy lineups.
>anything DLR released
mmmm kinda but no.
DLR was always carried by his backing band, which for the first few solo albums was fucking awesome because he got absolute A-list musicians (Steve Vai / Billy Sheehan / Gregg Bissonette) but fell off sharply with Little Aint Enough and never really recovered.
But yeah if you watch videos of the Skyscraper tour, the whole magic is the backing band, Dave's already reheating decade-old shtick which was wearing very thin by then. And the later DLR solo stuff and van halen "reunion" stuff, he's just talking through the lyrics, not even trying to sing.
In contrast, Sammy was a proper front man, in that he was musically competent enough to hold his own, even when standing next to a guy like EVH.
your point about VH being Sammy's backing band is apt, and they were a great backing band for him, e.g. the Van Halen version of One Way to Rock was much stronger than any of the solo Sammy lineups.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:59:27 PM No.127288107
>>127285182 (OP)
In what way? Musically? no. Record sales? no. Fun? no. Influence? no.
explain yourself.
In what way? Musically? no. Record sales? no. Fun? no. Influence? no.
explain yourself.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:29:51 PM No.127289177
>>127285893
>Pleasure Dome.
>some of the worst Hagar lyrics
and thats saying something. that should have been an instrumental
>Pleasure Dome.
>some of the worst Hagar lyrics
and thats saying something. that should have been an instrumental
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 12:44:22 AM No.127289805
>>127289177
Even he didn't like the lyrics, which is why they did perform it as an instrumental on the 91/92 tour, as a transition from the bass solo to the drum solo. And it was awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsvhSGTcRyk
Even he didn't like the lyrics, which is why they did perform it as an instrumental on the 91/92 tour, as a transition from the bass solo to the drum solo. And it was awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsvhSGTcRyk
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 12:47:31 AM No.127289846
>>127285893
>kind of funny that they hit back-to-back
van halen were on fire for 1984 and 5150, literally their creative peak imo. and it wasn't like they were full sellout pop artists just because jump, side B of 1984 has some really proggy stuff and is just as good as side A.
5150 is good and it's easily the peak of van hagar, because even OU812 fails to recapture the magic despite being the most similar van hagar to 5150
>kind of funny that they hit back-to-back
van halen were on fire for 1984 and 5150, literally their creative peak imo. and it wasn't like they were full sellout pop artists just because jump, side B of 1984 has some really proggy stuff and is just as good as side A.
5150 is good and it's easily the peak of van hagar, because even OU812 fails to recapture the magic despite being the most similar van hagar to 5150