If they aren't heavy metal, what separates them from heavy metal?
In general, is there a difference between nu-metal riffs and heavy metal riffs?
Is there a reason stuff like funeral doom is typically considered metal when nu-metal sometimes isnt?
>>127290753 (OP)Their first album was pretty heavy
>>127290762What separates them from heavy metal?
>>127290753 (OP)there's no such thing as "heavy metal riffs". classic metal, death metal, black metal, doom metal etc. have totally different styles of riffs. saying that slipknot is not metal is just elitism that isn't based on any real arguments.
>>127290822I imagine doom metal and classic metal could be pretty similar?
>>127290753 (OP)Self-titled is nu-metal.
Iowa is death metal.
Everything after that is alternative metal.
Nu metal is s sub genre of heavy metal. The sound is often defined by low end riffs with chunky distorted power chords and an emphasis on piercing muted notes especially in numetal. There's common elements on drums and vocals too
>>127291728The Band's 2nd Album "Iowa" was the darkest of their time they hated each other during the recording, it's regarded as the heaviest and angriest album ever made.
>>127290753 (OP)why is lars given shit for the trash can snare while slipknot gets away withit
>>127291728>Iowa is death metal.everyone point and laugh at the retard
bigger question is why does it take so many members to make this shit
Slipknot is Nu Metal which is actually funk rock + grunge + sludge metal and sometimes + rap. so its like 1 quarter metal.
>>127292175>bigger question is why does it take so many members to make this shitEaerlier on they have like 1 drummer and 2 other percussionists. they have a keyboardist and a turntablist.
I don't know why they have so many members. I wonder if its related to how noisy and chaotic their songs sound.
>>127291975Thanks for the history lesson, faggot. Pretty sure everyone knows this already.
>>127292180Except Slipknot is like 80% metal with grunge and rap infleunces. Nu metal as a genre is overall a retarded because its either way too wide of an Umbrella if you consider Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park to be Nu Metal (listen to any track off Iowa and then something off Significant other and tell me they belong in the same SUB genre), or its a genre that is essentailly only comprised of early Slipknot and Korn.
>>127294104>or its a genre that is essentailly only comprised of early Slipknot and Korn.Mudvayne would also be included if that's the sound
>>127292175>>127293670I think its because the whole image was a big part of the project from the start.
Also their music is especially early on is really fucking unique. I dont know jack shit about their creative process but maybe if they didnt have a sample nerd on the turntables they wouldnt have cool accents like the amen break on Eyeless etc.
>>127293807Metalheads are allergic to innovation
>>127290753 (OP)nu metal is a fusion genre between metal, rock and hip hop
its not a metal subgenre
1st 2 albums are a bunch of babies who know nothing about music slamming pots and pans together thinking it's music with pretty terrible mixing.
Vol. 3 is when Rick Ruben rounded them up and was like "okay I like the energy guys, but let's actually make some music out of it instead of clangy shit noise"
So yes vol 3 is metal, with tinges of Horrocore and Nu-Metal. It may not be as "HEAVY" as their first two records technically, but because the punch and impact is better overall I'd like to think it IS heavier. Especially over the first album since the first album the drums sound like slapping paper bags. People just complain because of the few acoustic parts to the record which imo gives the record a nice rounded out dynamic. Too bad it all fell apart pretty much right after Vol 3. and they went full alternative metal shit.
everything this band has ever released is gay as fuck and not metal
>>127296346whats the difference in mixing between 1st and 3rd albums?
>>127290753 (OP)>Are slipknotStopped reading there. I don't listen to faggy nonsense like this.
>>127290753 (OP)I guess they're nu-metal which is a type of metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1zCN0YhW1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1jQKpse7Yw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw2LU1yS7aw