Thread 127299928

axl rose is going out of time with his band when he sings

https://streamable.com/kfl68x

what's going on? is this normal for singers getting older?

No. He's just old and washed up.

Jesus Christ, that was embarrassing.

>>127299928 (OP)
wow that was shit

Bro killed his voice for good on that AC/DC tour. Not sure why he still thinks he has do play 3 hour shows instead of just enjoying retirement while shitting out some UYI tour recording every once in a while.

>>127299928 (OP)
kek this nigga ain't gonna get old gracefully is he?

>>127299928 (OP)
He was out of time in Sabbath Bloody Sabbath too

https://youtu.be/orcK0XAcDgo?feature=shared&t=181

>>127299928 (OP)
Fiona Apple fucking up Fast As You Can only to completely nail it on the second attempt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQfb9pY9fy4

I think so. I was actually considering going to see Neil Young soon. I looked up his Glastonbury performance and while his tone was good, he was so fucking out of time it was kinda sad. Should have burned out instead of fading away.

>>127299928 (OP)
CobainChads....we won

>>127300154
do you think their hearing is going, or their brains are getting old?

>>127300215
WHAT?!

>>127299928 (OP)
Holy fuck, that was godawful and way worse than I expected. I can understand and respect Robert Plant not wanting to do a Led Zeppelin reunion tour because he doesn't want to embarrass himself like that.

>>127300229
ARE THEY GOING OUT OF TIME BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HEAR THEIR BAND ANYMORE, OR THEIR BRAIN CAN'T TELL THEY'RE OUT OF TIME?

>>127300154
The Rolling Stones are 20 years older than Axl and GNR and still sound pretty decent. Dylan is ok and Cohen was good, so it's not necessarily due to age.

>>127300280
OH, IT'S PROBABLY THE LATTER.

>>127299928 (OP)
He's out of touch
He's out of time

Okay he's out of time, but how do people get over the fact that he sounds like mickey mouse? That's the last person(?) you want to sound like as a singer of a rock band

>>127300440
there's a reason why GnR didn't want to be on the Wacken Festival's livestream

>>127300033
He was really good in AC/DC, absolutely amazed me. After that, Mickey Mouse

>>127300154
I saw him last month and it was fantastic

>>127300530
Maybe I'll reconsider.

>>127299928 (OP)
>>127300459
why does he keep on doing this? does he not understand he's embarrassing himself or what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnpLAB0uXb0 this is way better for everyone, the fans, his image and surely his pipes too

>>127300757
That's what I keep wondering! He sounds a lot better when he uses his natural voice

>>127299928 (OP)
a couple of years ago, He used to look like a mix od mama fratelli and benny hill and sound like a mix between mickey mouse and herbert the pervert. he doesnt look like benny hill anymore but he still sounds like herbert.

>>127299928 (OP)
They have a click track in their in ear monitors they play to. His click is probably off

>>127299928 (OP)
axl is just a fucking retard
and probably still a junkie/alcoholic
these guys, at this lvl, ALL have in-ear monitors. specifically set to what they want prior to going up. every battery is changed, every gig, and these sound guys are getting paid A LOT to make sure theres no monitor issues.
there simply isnt an excuse. hes just a fucking retard.

just dont go see these retirement tours, kids. theyre almost always fucking bullshit
unless it involves mike watt. definitely still go see it if it involves mike watt

>>127300757
he thinks people would mind if his voice goes lower
https://youtu.be/W4edh2wecvk?feature=shared&t=2524

>>127300757
More of his low voice
https://youtu.be/G-ATsHGhRCc?feature=shared&t=20

>>127299928 (OP)
Because he’s a singer not a musician

>>127301536
he can play the piano too

>>127299928 (OP)
You'd never see a pop girl do something this embarassing. Rockfags are cringe.

>>127301667
yea because once the they turn like 23 they get sent off to the fucking glue factory

>>127299928 (OP)
>is this normal for singers getting older
naw, Sinatra was great and so is the guy from Simply Red
Axl, idk? Slash is not so great either. Maybe they're high/

>>127300427
nicely played, sir
i chuckled

His click track was off

>>127299928 (OP)
link is dead, is it too late to see this somewhere else?

>>127301667
well of course not, they just lip sync for their entire career.

>>127302504
Yeah it’s an axl problem… here’s Robert plant old as hell nailing a skip Spence cover

https://youtu.be/-vnAjRk_XWE

>>127299928 (OP)
>>127303939
the gnr lawyers may have gotten to the video link
someone said they got banned from the guns n roses subreddit for posting that video

here's a link with the performance though the audio for the singing here is quieter than the proshot

https://youtu.be/_kPrwhwu9Yw?feature=shared&t=363

>>127299928 (OP)
>>127303939
>>127304564
Another angle

https://youtu.be/DaqMGlZ2YrU?feature=shared&t=262

You can also view the timing issue in the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath video too
>>127300068

>>127301991
Madonna debuted at 24.

>>127304256
Beyonce outsings every single rock "vocalist" put together.

plz don't bait each other. both pop and rock vocalists can be great

>>127304582
>>127300068

What do you think the other band members are thinking when Axl goes out of time?

>>127304687
the paycheck

>>127304687
the exact thing chuck berry was thinking when Yoko Ono hopped on the track for a sick remix.

i'm glad ozzy stayed in time for his final performance

>>127299928 (OP)
they took it down

>>127307574
there's links the other parts of the threads
>>127304582
>>127304564
>>127300068

>>127304687
they're all getting some money
it's weird overall by axl himself too desu
these days records don't sell anymore cause the industry has changed or just isn't there anymore so they better touring touring touring in order to maintain that good wealth
actors keep taking all kind of roles
when they're not doing shit they do podcasts
that's how it is i guess

I'm not gonna make a separate thread, but are there any live performances so bad they're good? The only ones I can think of are the somewhat recent (2015ish) Vince Neil ones that spawned a hundred misheard lyrics videos and gave me some of the hardest laughs of my life.

this thread is so funny

>>127308560
vince neil is still doing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fisAfBdL30Q

>>127308747
what an awful fucking band

>>127299928 (OP)
All the boomer fucks that haven't retired to an eldery home deserve a horrible death. All the normalfag cattle that keeps watching deserve to be killed too.

Killl every single boomer FUCK

>>127308747
Man, it was really funny at first, but now it's just sad. Someone in the comments said that Ozzy on his deathbed sounded so much better. Maybe Motley Crue songs are harder to sing, but still. At least Vince lost some weight, I guess.

>>127308747
between gnr and this I can't fathom what goes through the brain of the people who pay to see this shit

>>127304564
>>127304582
>>127300068

>>127304687
>I better keep my mouth shut or Axl will fire me

>>127300275
That's because they embarrassed themselves long ago.
https://youtu.be/TudbbVdz8os

What are people's thoughts on how Sebastian Bach's singing has held up?

Bach in 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tobKbYRCJOo

>>127304564
Lmao at that "You're gonna die."

>>127308747
Both looks and sounds like a homeless guy who wandered onto the stage.

>>127309359
Just like every other vocalist in his age. Basically lost his higher mixed voice register so he has to rely on weak falsetto to reach the higher notes.

There are extremely few rock singers that kept their voices after their late 50s. Glenn Hughes and Steven Tyler are two of them.

>>127308747
>that scream at 4:06
Holy shit, Vince still got it. The ability to make me laugh hysterically, that is.

>>127304564
He is clearly on proper rhythm. You cant be out of tempo but be able to maintain correct rhythm out of it.
The track he was fed was clearly wrong. Since you can see him following it properly and never even trying to catch up to the rest of the band.

>>127311613
but he was correct for entirety of the song before that

>>127309814
hahahaha, you weren't kidding, what was that? a deflating balloon?

>>127300319
I think the difference is they never stopped performing

>>127309194
It was truly the 9/11 of Metal.
>sir not only does he sound like Mickey Mouse taking a shit he also just went out of time with the band

>>127300210
27 Club chads always win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDPp3nJ9HBI

>>127309284
Everyone who did Live Aid embarrassed themselves. Even Black Sabbath. Only Queen did not phone it in. For naught because we now know Live Aid was a scam anyway.

>>127304564
>>127304582
he was in time the rest of the song. maybe it had something to do with his ear piece for a brief second, or it's just a tricky transition and they blew it (it doesn't seem the band is all that in synch in that weird descending part at the end.

but his shot high range voice is the most glaring deficiency i think as others said above too.

>>127309059
>what goes through the brain of the people who pay to see this shit
alcohol

>>127315002
if you're halfway competent, you have more money than you know what to do with by middle age.

>>127299928 (OP)
All high pitched singers age like shit. Yet another win for deep voiced singers

>>127300068
I really dont know why he tries singing high notes anymore, all the chinese democracy songs he sounds fine. Why doesn't he just do a Bob Dylan and sing lower?

>>127309814
my fucking SIDES

>>127299928 (OP)
People defending him after the Sabbath show saying "a-actually it's cause he just performed the day before!" was the funniest shit

>>127315002
nah duff isn't going back to that
he has to deal with this shit sober

>>127315055
>high pitched

funnily enough, axl is a baritone. don't know why he doesn't use it more

>>127312376
Axl stopped performing only in the 90s, when he came back he always had ups and downs, and arguably his overall peaks in 2006 and 2010, but never, never like this; he simply shot his voice when he toured for GnR and AC/DC at the same time

>>127315526
>he simply shot his voice when he toured for GnR and AC/DC at the same time

makes me sad a short period in your life can ruin your voice forever

>>127315697
it happens, and unlike pic related as much as I loved it, he shot it for a good reason and in a blaze of glory, it's sad that now people make fun of him because of recency bias and no one producing him

>>127300215
You would imagine that staying in tune is harder with bad hearing, you can always hear the beat.
And Axl is only 63 years old. In that age Iggy Pop was still doing somersaults on the stage.

>>127315453
The baritone voice clashes with guitar wall frequencies in hard rock music. That's why they are trying to sing as high as possible.
Jim Morrison voice could never cut through loud Marshalls.

>>127299928 (OP)
Axl singing Human Being out of time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zMlylJFW80

>>127315836
joey ramone's relatively deep voice cut through hard rock wall of guitars without having to sound like a screaming banshee.
but joey on a whole nother level of cool i guess.

>>127304584
>Madonna debuted at 24.
She was doing new wave before that

>>127317184
he fucking sucks, bubble gum pop softer than the sweet

out of all baritone rock singers only rob zombie, Danzig and Phil anselmo made it bounce like a motherfucka

>>127304582
Axl came in one measure early and stays that way for the entire end. There has to be a click-track they're playing to, but then how is the drummer so off in the beginning with Slash?

>>127317184
Joey's vocals melt into the mix in live footage. On the albums, he's more prominent but still not way forward like a typical rock singer. It's part of the vibe but probably wouldn't have worked for gnr.

>>127300871
>Mike watt
the bass guy in Minutmen?
I like him

>>127317822
>he fucking sucks
no u
>made it bounce like a motherfucka
bruh, are you trying to be funny?
I fail to see the humor in Danzig

>>127317154
Those nibbas are so opposite what they were in 1987
Instead of being real they're now singing to prerecorded click tracks and fucking that up too

>>127318005
what exactly are they hearing?
so each musician has an ear piece where he is hearing the rest of band ..... that i guess is coming from mixing board or something.
do the musicians have ear pieces in both ears and if not, wouldn't they be able to tell something is off by what the other guys are playing right next to them?
and any explanation why axl's would be off a measure and everyone else's apparently in sync?

>>127309359
>that delay
holy shit so bad
he sounds fine though

>>127308560
YES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rgqlWM9uj8

>>127319429
>and any explanation why axl's would be off a measure and everyone else's apparently in sync?
that they don't actually hear each other probably. maybe they each hear a prerecorded track of the band playing that they're supposed to play along. but Axl's button was pushed in a measure too early

>>127319474
It's like he's singing in Simlish, I can't understand a single word.

>>127319987
thanks. never knew that.
does each playing against pre-recorded improve things?
purists of course oppose but if most do it, then i would guess it probably has been shown to improve things in some way.
kills the romance of what live is usually thought of tho i guess.

>>127299928 (OP)
He's out of touch? No, he's out of time.

Slash's posture...goodness
Come on, if death metal hero Chuck can wear his guitar strap like a normal person with his shirt tucked in properly then anyone can, there's no need for this anymore.

>>127320932
>my back aches
>i wish i were home
>where is Izzy and Steven?

>>127308560
>are there any live performances so bad they're good
IT'S DEH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3hzowjjjdc

>>127308560
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1FE8K0Lqwo

>>127301667
>pop girl

BLACKPINK IN YOUR AREA!

https://www.instagram.com/p/DNEc97OM_kP/?img_index=2

>>127300068
I nooticed this too