Mountain Top edition
Previous thread: >>127297269

SCALES:
https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales

GIT GUD with GUITAR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1L-sBIxnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QCt3UBTS1Y

>>127305807 (OP)
>ahh yes peace and quiet finally
>boomer bends furiously

>>127305807 (OP)
>Hot rail in the bridge, surrounded by cool snow
true serenity

Y/N?

>>127305830
No.

>>127305830
lmfao what the fuck is this just get a locking tuner

you now remember the jackson dinky exists

does anyone still play those?
idk if ive even seen one since metalcore went the way of the dodo
they used to be THE babbys first """good""" guitar for every metalfag
i always thought they fucking sucked desu. the pickups were usually terrible, and it just felt like you were playing a knockoff ibanez or something

>>127305861
>since metalcore went the way of the dodo
metalcore is still going strong though

>>127305830
N

https://voca.ro/16Qesx7FYWEJ

>>127305880
why did guitar manufacturers reinvent the tuner by making it worse and then adopting it when they had perfection like this?

>>127305868
bummer
im trying to think of the only metalcore album i ever liked and its prolly this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVq6WS8EW28
also horse
horse ruled. that scene was so hilariously unfun, and then you had horse. they pissed off the pitshort mafia something fierce

>>127305886
Right? These always worked and every bass I've ever seen or touched has them.

Dudeo-sonic

>>127305886
the real question i wanna know is how tf have guitar designs, overall, changed so minimally in like 80yrs?
like sure, if it aint broke. but you go out rn and by some brand new fender, its gonna be north of a grand at least, and its basically just some glorified 1960s tech. cheap shitty plastic pickguard and all (with the jack just mounted into nothing but the plastic cuz fuk u).

theres a number of really bafflingly stupid design decisions that seemingly exist purely for traditions sake. and then useful shit like tuners that arent retarded, get changed every 2yrs.
my last squier i bought had a metal pickguard and i cannot imagine going back to that plastic shit. i cant tell you how many times ive had my input smashed off because they mounted the input into cheap plastic. and for no other reason than "lol thats what they did in da 60s"
how about we leave those retarded design choices back in the 60s?

>>127305834
>>127305846
>>127305880
why? ib4 just buy locking tuners

>>127305982
Guitar players that can fingertap like evh but lack the ability to repair or modify their guitars are just babies in it for the (non-existant) pussy

>>127305663
Digital sounds like dogshit. I hate Digital so much it's unreal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ud_WPoCv0k [Embed]

Also Hendrix strap broke so Gilmour will die soon

>>127306070
Literally sounds better than analog. Keep living in the past, while rest of the world (including world class top producers) use digital tone

I don't wanna upgrade my pickups because i like the pickup covers on my stock pickups

>>127306083
Never been the case.
>world class top producers
Don't exist anymore.

>>127306104
You don't even understand what is digital.

All modern analog recordings were originally recorded on analog magnetic tape. Magnetic tape has a form of "sampling" by virtue of the recording media. Magnetic tape is composed of millions of microscopic magnetic "dipoles" and these dipoles individually "record" a "bit" of the waveform amplitude at that instantaneous moment. And then, the playback head gap determines the "resolution" of how finely you can "resolve" those magnetic dipoles and what magnetic field each of them have. Those of us who actually understand what is happening with analog don't have the same fascination for that antique technology.

Not many even cherished 80s recs were done using full analog chain. Even early to mid 1980s. artists and producers were recording to and mixing/mastering in digital: think Sony PCM-1610 or DASH multtrack recorders.

The evolution of analogue systems moved forwards to remove distortion created by the hardware and get to get as clean a signal path as possible. Digital systems provide that clean signal path but then we realised it was the distortion and saturation of analogue that give it that pleasing warmth/3D like sound (whatever). It all boils down to this fact: IMPERFECT analog circuits imbue an essential "organic" quality to music reproduction (literal errors) that are lacking in "sterile" digital chains that are more transparent and closer to the original SOURCE MATERIAL (no matter is it analog or digital).

Ironically, many vinyl presses in the 80s had a digital delay unit placed in the chain - the output that was pressed to vinyl while the mastering engineer adjusted the input signal in realtime during cutting. Even those warm "analogue" 80's presses everyone cherishes so much were converted to 16 bit digital during the cutting process.

Your cherished "analog warm recordings" are literally digital

>>127305982
>cheap shitty plastic pickguard and all (with the jack just mounted into nothing but the plastic cuz fuk u).
Never had an issue with the pickguard, but on (normal) Teles and Strats this is literally untrue, they aren't mounted to the pickguard.
>i cant tell you how many times ive had my input smashed off because they mounted the input into cheap plastic. and for no other reason than "lol thats what they did in da 60s"
Have you tried treating it with care and not bumping into shit?

>>127306128


>guitar to amp = good
>guitar to digital to amp = sounds bad
>amp to mic = sounds good
>digital to record = sounds mediocre

sometimes life is that simple

>>127306050
Learning that a nontrivial amount of guitar player bring their electric guitar to a luthier or repair shop in order to get their strings changed.

>>127306148
All of those things are placebo, they only exist in your head

Here is for example a blind test done on cab IRs and real miced up version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgqOvEQdU0E

Top world class record engineers could not tell which one is digital IR and which one is real microphone, neither can you. You can say here on the internet that you hear the difference, but in blind tests you would be as clueless as rest of the sound engineer professionals

You think you hear the difference, but you don't

>>127306050
>ability to repair or modify their guitars
i mean i do, obv. im not gonna just put up with some retarded 60yo design decision because "muh tradition".
my issue is that the new guitars should fucking have this stuff out of the box
i shouldnt have to be swapping out parts, or cutting out a new hole for the jack, when i just dumped a grand into a guitar
its like buying a new car, but its got a donut on it, so you need to go buy another tire and rim. its unacceptable in almost any other industry. and yet guitar is apparently one of those exceptions.

>>127306131
its brutal on the jazz
its usually right on the corner/flimsy part and it goes straight out, with a void underneath. retarded. i had a jay turser jazzmaster ffs and even that had a better jack, going in through the side at an angle. literally so simple.

>Have you tried not gigging?
no

>>127306197
>All of those things are placebo, they only exist in your head
If have a Quad and a real amp in a live setting you can immediatly tell the difference.

Also if your live sound is worse than the recordings you should unironically yourself. The resonance and sound of a real instrument trough a real amp will always be god tier.

>that video
>POWER CHORD CHUG CHUG HUCG

lmao "world class" players and "world class professionals" eh?. I'd rather never interact or watch these people ever again, thanks. Complete tasteless frauds, dead instrument for a reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyydSocn5dM

Arguing online is just as unattractive as watching porn to a girl

>>127306251
Kill yourself roastie

>>127306242
Of course you're here defending your position. You're a gearhoarder who has serious GAS syndrome, you've heavily invested in microphones, real gear etc. and you believe in tonewood

The rest of us have already surpassed your tone with a simple EQ pedal + Laptop. It's literal Guitar Zen and minimalism - the minimalist wins and the digital sims just keep getting better every year while analog just keeps getting more obsolete

>>127306255
actually, 1 girl let me watch porn while i fucked her. shit was pretty cash if i say so myself.

>>127306264
i literally just own 2 guitars (1 is a shitson that barely even works because the frets buzz all over the place) , a tube amp, a rat and that's it. I started on woodwinds and jazz, i'm telling you you dumbfuck, there's a clear difference between an actual signal and a digital one and it's even more noticeable in real life.

on instruments that actually resonate it actually gets worse, you can't record the way a piano does irl but you can try. The moment you add a digital touch up to the piano it ends up sounding like shit.
>but le piano isn not le guita-
A piano is just a bigger guitar.

>>127306288
>I started on woodwinds and jazz,
>The moment you add a digital touch up to the piano it ends up sounding like shit.

You're talking about a subject matter you don't know anything about. Namely, music production.

If you have to record a classical orchestra with hundreds of instruments you will need digital equipment to produce the full sound spectrum.

It's not possible with analog gear, there has been studies done on this. The most provable accurate way to capture the full spectrum of sound can only be done digitally.

There is a reason 0 (zero) classical orchestra concerts are recorded full analog; instead they are all using digital recording and capture mechanisms.

The point is that if you are going full analog route with the end product being vinyl that orchestra with 100s of instruments, barely 50 of them will be audible COMPARED to Cd which is a DIGITAL representation of the same thing. This has been studied and it is not for debate. Go learn audio engineering

You hate "digital" but you don't even understand what the fuck you are talking about

i just realized that guitarrist (from this place btw) are the only ones that are ok with cucking themselves on digital.

No drummer will switch to a midi shart
No Bassist will sound to a midi shart
No pianist will.. ok europe did but it ends up soundind like a parody
no saxonist will ever change to a midi shart except for black jack toy

It's just you cucks dennying reality because the path with least resistance is the easier one to walk. Personally i blame poverty and the boomers hoarding all the cabs.

>>127306318
I'm talking about live play, don't really care about music production of big orchestra or anything like that. Not sure why you can't record every single instrument with a shit ton of mics but ok.

>>127306240
Lots of players gig and tour with a Jazzmaster without this issue, you shouldn't be getting your jacks "smashed" off" regardless of if its mounted to plastic or not. Fender does do some dumb shit but this one's on you.

>>127305826
>telecaster with bridge humbucker

>>127305807 (OP)
im following marty's lessons but I'm just lost at lesson 14 with the scales. there's so many different patterns for the same scale

>>127306070
>>127306070
he's using digital delays, switchers, there's a solid stage amp in parallel, he's using digital speakers for his monitors, what are you yapping about?

Neural DSP just announced the Dave Gilmour plugin last week...

ah sweet, another "analogfag has a meltdown" episode

can't believe he's still going. guess the adderall is kicking in double today

>>127306377

reminder that meshuggah regularly use the pod straight into the desk as part of their sound

>>127306407
>photo from before color photos existed
lol, lmao even

>>127306410
>Chuggy chug band uses the chug standard box to get their signature chugg-y sound

Color me surprised

>>127306420
why do you think their albums and live sound is incredible? Why do you think that 40 years later you can't even affort a single one of those cabs or a sound that's similar to them? lmao, your shart cortex is pure fucking cope
>>127306410
>muh chug powerchord mt2 sound
yeah...

>>127306407
fuck having to bring all that, just bring a quad cortex

>>127306450

>>127306449
What the fuck are you smoking/talking about? When I think of "incredible tone" I certainly don't think about David Gilmour or his (live) gear

>>127306450
That's the only good thing about digital. None of you are good enough anyways.

>>127306449
Sounds nothing like MT-2 though, it is one of the hardest sounds to replicate. Extremely underrated pedal that achieved meme status because some youngsters connected it to some LINE6 Spider

>>127306410
That information memed me into buying one of those pieces of crap back in the day
I hate them so much.
Fuck the Line6 Pod. And fuck Meshuggah. Stupid dickheads.

Steve Vai was using a multifx in the 90s btw

>>127306470
hey if that was too difficult for you to figure out, make sure you don't try messing with the neural amp modeler

>>127306474
he transcended many years ago

>>127306470
You do know "straight into the desk" means the sound is mixed and EQ'd there yes? The bean is only part of the solution

>>127306410
that reminds me, i have one of these in the back of my pedal box from like a decade ago, i wonder if i could make some stupid tones with it

>>127306493
yeah obviously, but it's not running through a power amp, cabinet, mic like a normal preamp would be.

Some of the older Symphony X albums use those Line 6 Pod tones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCQ4tUwNy4U but not sure is this one.

>>127306459
>When I think of "incredible tone" I certainly don't think about David Gilmour or his (live) gear

PF is one of the few bands that sound incredible during live playm, PF , Guthrie, TOOL, RadioHead sound better than their albums (and they should cause you are not killing the signal trough amps and digishart)

Meanwhile most metal bands (even the big ones like metallica and megashart) sound like dogshit on live play and personally? I blame digital. You either carry that rack or you sound like a olaf the tool

>>127306493
Yeah fuck their EQ, mixer and sound engineer too

Line 6 POD HD500 Treadplate (Rectifier) Tone NAM capture from Tone3000 into some Mesa IRs on top of some YouTube track

https://vocaroo.com/11Jom2NDh4Ef

>>127306546
yeah.. i'm sticking to tube amps

>>127306575
>muh t00bs muh t00bs

shut up

i dont get the contention
ok sure, you cant gig on it. or you could youd just need to plug into your laptop on stage, and thats one of the deadly sins. but its also not like youre gonna gig on your fancy boutique amps either. youre gonna use some beater. the nice ones sit at the studio forever so they dont break and you can record with them.
personally i like miking amps. its fun and you can do some wacky stuff if you want. but the idea of having this decent of amp modelling digitally, for free, can only be sick. that just makes it so more ppls home recordings can sound like they werent recorded D/I to audacity

you just gotta figure out a way to compensate for it if you want to play live. thats the only real problem i could see you getting yourself into. backing yourself into some impossible (and/or $5k+) auditory corner

>>127306604
You don’t bring the laptop onstange, you bring the ipad. NAM on in Garageband.

>>127306616
im fearful of eternal hellfire

after 60 you shouldn't be allowed to play live anymore, pass the torch already loser. No one wants to see grandpa play on stage.

>>127306468
It achieved meme status because its typical owners get filtered by the EQ knobs. Most guitar players can't into EQ to save their lives in general. They'll buy dozens of dirt pedals, "colored" clean boosts, amps, cabs, anything just to not touch EQs.

>>127306628
lolno, Dave Mustang is still going strong

>>127306628
counterpoint: mike watt

https://youtu.be/JKGlujZMWog&t=2397

>going strong
Humiliation Ritual , it's depressing actually, these retarded boomers hoarding everything for themselves while not being relevant for 30+ years.

>>127306629
>dozens of dirt pedals, "colored" clean boosts, amps, cabs
All of these have EQ controls?

>>127306630
>strong

>>127306647
Is this supposed to be bad? He's fucking killing that riff. Yeah his voice sounds old but he can play.

>>127306678
yeah "killing it"

be nice to dave.
he had a hard life. mostly self-inflicted, but still.
hes a real trooper. i wouldnt have lasted even a day as dave. i wouldve headed straight for alcohol poisoning related liver failure and never looked back.

>>127305830
how do you even do this without breaking? I just let the string choose it's own way

kill all boomers

>>127306735
gen x will keep Gibson afloat.

>>127306830
if they even have that much disposable income in the first place they'll probably strandberg

rough play through of mr tinkertrain
https://vocaroo.com/1aE3pDbPYBCE

>>127306506
welp, turns out no, there aren't magic tones hidden in the shitbox

https://voca.ro/1ikJKeEBYDni

idk why the idea of this weird twiddly guitar music ever being considered dance music somewhere in the world is so entertaining to me, but it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gXICJwqqgw
i didnt even realize the second """guitar""" was just the bassist playing crazy high until like 7mins in. guys a machine

>>127306947
don't promote your music here anon

>>127306875
you are easily the most out of touch person in the thread

boomer bends checking in. who's with me?

https://voca.ro/17I7DW7dMCRK

>>127306971
I just be saying shit for the fuck of it, what are the popular gen X & Z brands then

>>127306993
I will NEVER bend a single note. Ever.

>>127307007
why tf you want some anon to answer that, just shut up kid before we have a problem

>>127307016
based evertune enjoyer

>>127306993
Lots of boomer bends and artificial harmonics in this one
>>127306938

Should I learn acoustic guitar before learning electric guitar? I tried playing both but found acoustic much easier at least in terms of not having to mute strings etc. The thing is I prefer the sound of electric and don't really listen to genres where the acoustic guitar predominates

>>127307062
either way, you'll want to learn how to mute the strings. its a bit of both hands doing the work. play whichever one make you happy

>>127307025
And what problem would that be? Go on anonie, gonna cry?

>>127307077
yeah? you really wanna go down this road huh?

fine, i'll cry, i'll shit my pants, maybe cum a little. the question is what are YOU gonna do about it, nerd

>>127307062
get an electric

>>127307086

>>127307062
Guitar is hard. If you’re already worrying how hard something as simple as muting strings is you’re never going to be good. Not sure if you should even try. I’m not kidding when I say it’s really hard, like you’ll have to invest 10,000 hours of practice to be decent.

Who's to say? that i just shit my pants
Who's to say? that diapers ain't for maaaan
Who's to say? iggbwergbiwonf- (old age mumble)
Cause a big diaper just does it for me

>>127307098
10,000 to be decent is a meme, it's about what and how you practice.

how is picrel for all-around purposes? I don't want to be glued to a computer nor do I want to waste money on pedals and amps

>>127307142
what's the ping pong button for?

>>127307131
It’s not a meme. It’s 8 hours a day every day for 4 years. That’s what it takes to be a high level intermediate player. Pros have double or triple that. I have played at least 30,000 hours in the last 30 years and I still have lots to learn. I practice 2-6 hours a day.

>>127307142
Can cover your entire gig but the workflow kinda sucks. Be prepared for menu diving and tweaks.
>>127307153
Minigame

>>127307153
ping pong delay, imagine bon bon bon in different ear each time, did you imagine it?

>>127307175
it's actually pong

>>127307142
I’d wait for the new line 6 stuff in October it’s going to be way better. I personally prefer the floor to the stomp / xl. The stomp is more for guys with a full pedalboard that want to model amps and still use their pedals. You miss out on a lot of good features of the floor and it’s not drastically less expensive. I’d say at least find a nice used helix lt for around the same price point as it basically does everything the floor does but isn’t as durable and doesn’t have all the outputs. If you can afford to, wait for the new stadium models as they’re going to sound better.

>>127306938
>post 6 minute long one take cover of a very difficult song
>no yous
Never change /gg/

>>127307142
Looks like a tapdancing nightmare to me. Normal stomp might have too few switches but this has too many. How are you reliably hitting D wearing shoes?

>>127307193
ah yes a phazer

>>127307208
Play polyphia loser, no one cares about boomer slop anymore

>>127307208
>>127306938
Good tone, flawless playthrough

I listened it but I really did not have any feedback to give, you pretty much nailed it perfectly

>>127307160
>parameters change from "decent" to "high level intermediate player"

>>127306993
>>127307016
>>127307061
the final solution to boomer bends is, ironically, to go even more boomer. like actual literal baby boomer.
play long enough on flatwounds with a wound g, youll forget bending was even something possible to do on the guitar

>>127307160
The "how you practice" thing is losers mentality, already slacking before the 20,000 hour mark.

>>127307245
It wasn’t flawless I flubbed quite a few parts but it was also my first play through of the day and I only learned the song this week. Thanks though

>>127307247
High level intermediate is decent. There’s still advanced and professional above that. I don’t know what you consider to be decent but most the players in /gg/ aren’t even beyond beginner level.

>>127307208
it was actually peak, haven't heard many players here with that level of chops.

of course it was an 8 minute voca so i didnt listen to it

>>127307208
>open voca
>power chords start playing
>close voca
simple as

turns out, bitching about no one listening to your voca is actually the correct way to collect (you)s

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1754494380179157.mp4

>>127307379
he's playing along with other musicians....
there's hope for all of us after all

>>127307332
There’s only 2 power chords in that entire song

>muh how git gud?
i got one no one ever talks about
learn a wind instrument. dont even have to git gud at that one. just do it™ anyways
itll change the way you think of phrasing entirely. guitar tends to give ppl a "never take a fucking breath" type of phrasing that can be hard to ditch after habit forms.

i lik flut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijUPXYHm5SE
wanna get a wood one like this

>>127305807 (OP)
>Fucking with my guitars
>Realize I only own guitars with a brand that starts in E
>New amazon guitar I got is from a brand that starts with an E
What the fuck does this mean

>>127307469
you're poor

>>127307142
If you don't want to be glued to a computer try a GX100. It's bigger and heavier than the stomp but I could easily do everything on the unit itself, aside from loading IRs ofc.

>>127307469
Show us your Esteban

>>127307142
Is there a reason, outside of compactness (at the cost of TOAN) why these 1000$+ multi pedals are popular? Even fender put out a touchscreen one recently.

>>127307541
Erm because it replicates hundreds of amplifiers, cabinets and effects pedals for half the cost of a single tube head. And tone doesn’t really even suffer in the process. The next gen helix will blow your mind at how accurately it models both in sound and feel. Most of the “tone” you speak of is either in the players hands or studio trickery anyways. Tube amps sound just as bad as anything else live if your sound isn’t properly equalized I’ve seen lots of shows with tube amps that have absolutely sucked, and some shows where they used a helix that sounded great and I never would have known.

>>127305807 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1L-sBIxnY
Is it really worth watching? It's like 30 hours long. While I'd like to understand music, honestly I just want to play super fast legato on pentatonics.

>>127307541
fits in overhead luggage....

>>127307610
i believe in you anon

>>127307581
>"The next gen [line 6 modeler] will blow your mind!"
I've been hearing this line since 2006 dawg
Even the actual fender tonemaster amps have their share of hate. I do get that it's an 80/20 thing on the face of it though.

>>127307610
It's form 1996 so I prefer it for not being dumb engagement bait or trying to tell me to go sign up for a 1500$ "guitar cum mastery"
course.
Also Scotty hasn't aged at all from being an old man in the 90s so you know he's a legit guitar wizard.

>>127307721
Well it has a brand new algorithm and modeling software suite that from what I heard very accurately replicates the internal wiring, electronics, and artifacts of real tube amps. It’s going to be much closer than anything we’ve had at the very least and the technology will only get more advanced as time time goes on and they update the firmware. What it won’t be is a gimmick like the quad cortex.

>>127306630
Mustaine has never been going strong, megadeth sucks just like most other cliche and dull thrash bands.

>>127307887
Agreed. Megadeth attracts the absolute bottom of the barrel of metal fans who to listen to anything that isn't cookie cutter 80s thrash metal. I'm sick of hearing about them.

I still have no clue what impedance is

how loud can an unplugged guitar get—solid/hollow body?

Once upon a time when I visited my dead dad I was able to play his beautiful rickenbacker janglejangle. Is there a way to make my SG sound like that with digital stuff? Anything on neural DSP or whatever?
https://youtu.be/vvlMCJv77V0
https://youtu.be/B7Dekd24kMM

>>127305830
yes

>>127307208
It might surprise you to learn that I am not here to stroke your ego.

>>127308383
Nah you’re here to talk about instruments you can’t play and post your schizo blog.

>>127308311
Nolly plugin has some good jangly tones as well as a bunch of cool effects pedals, Marshall, bogner, peavey, and victory amps. It’s just a good plugin in general.

>>127308311
Try a twelve string sim

>>127308469
Nonetheless, this is not an open-mic night and we are not an audience for your putrid vocaroo fingerdrivel.

>>127308498
Take your meds

>>127308498
mad he plays better than you

>>127308612
I don't open vocas.

Did some digitation last night.
Feels like I'm improving I'm so hyped about it.

i just figured out modern metalcore thanks to this video
https://youtu.be/n5BfhP3oC7w

>>127307541
>pay 2 gorillion for stompboxes
>still have to get a board and wire it all up
>still have to tap dance
>still 100 points of failure in the chain
>one of them becomes super costly to replace because some guy made a video on it
>still need to lug an amp on top of all this
VS
>buy one mfx for a fraction of the price
>fits in luggage/cars effortlessly
>get more functionality (presets, full midi, etc)
>you could buy a backup and still be under the price of many boards
>amp now optional

>tfw people acutally believed that the fingers had muscles
>tfw they've been killing their wrists with horrible exercises like the spider
>"yeah dude im too stiff if i don't do this"
>tfw i have no face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OJkbNFyTkE

>>127308851
>>127308851
Just get ZOOM 9050 + midi controller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgaglgvhsb4

It's like +30 years old but probably sounds as good when plugged straight into console as expensive new gear.

>>127308761
And only 20 years late

>be me
>new at guitar
>practicing open string major scales in all keys for a week, got them memorized and clean
>also practicing cross picking all week, getting far more accurate
>get bored and spend an hour flat picking on guitar a complex song i knew on bass for fun
>scales and cross picking speeds go up 20 bpm overnight
woooooooowwwwwww.

>>127306264
>laptop
Fag

>>127309335
nice work, anon.

>>127307208
The samefag strong with this one it is.

>>127306655
Rick Beato has a horse cock

>>127307541
Profit margin

Question: last song you've learned?

>>127309353
thanks man. i'll probably try to work on some more things i already know. i'm in a very specific program and i am only a few lessons away from starting to learn actual songs but i wanted to make sure i had the current exercises memorized before i moved on

>>127309335
What’s an open string major scale?
What’s flat picking?
What’s cross picking?
You made these up, didn’t you.

>>127309464
Smells like teen spirit

Is PRS the only guitar that can contour to my horse cock?

>>127309360
That’s why I said post and not posts. It was implied I was samefagging.

>>127309484

>>127309464
I relearned wherever I may roam all the way through with all of Kirk’s parts, as I may throw that one in a live set here or there. I don’t play much Metallica anymore but I might do that or no leaf clover or the unforgiven live occasionally. The only problem with the unforgiven is how many overdubbed acoustic parts it has in the intro and verse. Might have to run a backing track for that one, but I love playing that solo.

>>127309499
learn dumb
what a purdy song

Was going through my dad's stuff and found this still in the box, is it anything good or should I bludgeon a guitar center employee on the head with it so I can steal a helix and a cloudburst?

very tempted to buy squierslop again

>>127309751
talk to us. what's on your mind

>>127309751
I dare you to get a duo-sonic and throw a jazzmaster bridge on it

>>127309640
the zoom ones are pretty fucking trash from what i remember
that was like the knockoff of the digitech big pedal from back then
it might have some fun stuff on it tho. the expression pedal alone is worth the price of admission, if only for tomfoolery purposes

>>127309755
currently I'm eyeing the Torino Red SS Sonic Mustang, I'd swap out the pickups and the tuners of course, and put a white pearloid pickguard on it
>>127309773
if they had one in red I'd go for it

>>127309751
just make sure its made in the greatest country in the world: indonesia

Everyday the hard things get a little easier, I enjoy playing guitar.
I wish I started playing a long time ago though, I feel like starting to play at 24 is just too late to create a good work of art before I'm 30

>>127309824
To add to this
>have tons of good ideas for songs
>not equipped to realize them at the moment, can't strike while the irons hot

>>127309809
hell yeah brother
>>127309824
don't worry about it. i started at 32

>>127309847
>don't worry about it. i started at 32
I know 24 ain't too late to start but you look at all the great artists they started young.
Gotta say, I've really been feeling old this year - not physically or mentally but just coming to terms with aging and how fast the time goes. I seriously cannot believe I graduated high school 6 years ago

>>127309824
i started at 14 and i'm dogshit at it

>>127309873
>>127309824
>>127309837
Kanye West put out his first album at 27

what's the easiest way to ground your guitar?

>>127309892
>mumble nigro
>relevant

oy vey

>>127309837
Just be glad you're not in the opposite situation

>>127309464
Wondering Where The Lions Are

>>127310049
I guess that's true
Kinda like Tim Henson

>>127309824
one of my personal favorite painters, francis bacon, spent his teenage years and presumably most of his 20s too, as a literal manwhore/rentboy. then after twink death, he got into interior design (#justfagthings). he had done some basic bitch watercolors, and other paint stuff for his job. but at ~30 he made his first attempt at a real piece. became one of the biggest postwar painters in a few years time.
granted, he was clearly quite talented, but later starts than you arent impossible or unheard of. i cant imagine lamenting lost time in your 20s desu. its a bit silly imo.

you wanna git gud fast?
gig a lot. join a band. or ideally two. and try and get out of town and doing some dates. you play a show every night for wks, youll learn stuff you simply couldnt learn elsewhere. and youll be far tighter than you couldve gotten from just staying at home and toiling away

You'll never amount to anything not because you are 20 but because you are a dogshit retarded zoomer.

I'd bet all my money on a 60 year old vs you.

Stupid faggot.

>>127310066
relax

>>127310010
Take away any new gear allowance.

>>127310056
>i cant imagine lamenting lost time in your 20s desu. its a bit silly imo.
I imagine you're a bit older than me so I'll take your advice on that because it's definitely true.
>gig a lot, join a band
I want to do my own stuff but I'll have to do this to refine any techniques, problem is I'm not good enough to join a band yet I started not too long ago.

>>127310066
>holding this much generational hatred in your heart
I believe in group identity but you're an absolute retard to this there aren't exceptions.

>>127310066
He mad

it is kinda sad tho
when i was a kid there was also a lot more all-ages shows and DIY venues that let kids come. thats how i got to see fugazi when i was like 12. immediately knew what i wanted to do forever.
tho some of the responsibility is still on the, now rapidly aging, zoomers. because when all the bars wouldnt let our dumbass 15yo kid band play their bar, we would just make it happen elsewhere. rent a lodge at a park. drag a generator into an abandoned building. whatever.

its just a shame tho, of all the DIY traditions, that one seems to have fallen off the most. hell i can imagine some internet dorks going
>ZOMG chomo
>theyre trying to bang underageb&
like nah. i just wanna play to the kids who are young enough and stoked enough to go start their own band. its what its all about

>>127310096
join some dumb punk band
who cares? fuck it, play bass instead if they dont need a guitarist. its all music, and everything you learn on anything or from any style is all cumulative and can be applied wherever. just take the gig. you can always just flake if it sucks. still prolly learn something about performance/arrangement/how to teach ppl songs/how to sync up w your drummer/bassist etc etc

>>127310202
>like nah. i just wanna play to the kids who are young enough and stoked enough to go start their own band. its what its all about
I want to make music for the youth, they're the future.

>>127309873
you need life experiences to write good music. the old timers did that because they had hard lives. most millennials and zoomers have no life experiences to write about. buy a recorder and since the lyrics and melody while you remember it then come back and record it when you have the technique.

>>127310243
>most millennials
lmao we are literally the best generation

>>127310243
Lmao

>>127310243
>you need life experiences to write good music
This is true. I still feel like I have good ideas for songs even if my life experience may be limited.
I have hundreds of phrases & concepts written down for lyrics.

all i can make is doomer shit that makes me feel depressed and upset

all I can make is subconscious plagiarisms of things I've already heard

>>127310243
Every generation has different experiences to write about to resonate with others from that cohort.
And imagination and extrapolation goes a long way. Hell, even reading about other peoples lives can go a long way to creating good lyrics.

>>127310295
Every generation has their shredders. So why not learn to shred?

>>127310223
i just wanna see their bands desu. and if theyre good well hook em up with more shows. its how it worked for us. all the old early millenials/gen x dudes in our scene took us under their wing and kept giving us shows because they liked our shit.
theres this massive disconnect rn with the various generations, and its not good for art longterm imo. stuff gets lost if it doesnt get passed down human-to-human

one of my fav bands as a kid was the big boys
just phenomenal playing. but their motto was something special.
>"now go start your own band"
if thats not the point, idk what is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAvTFLJf7L8

Just become the fastest shredder on the planet. Seriously, break Guiness world records in alternate picking etc. just sweep faster than everyone else

Why aim for anything lower?

i am boomer i write about drinkin n shiet
these kids dont know how to be a piece of shit alcoholic because they have to work since they are 12
hear me rawr..... sorry i just sharted me pants

>>127310328
I like listening to metal but don't want to make music like that

>>127310373
Because you want to make le sad boy music? Is that it?

>>127310383
I want to make a variety of music lol metal just isn't one of them

>>127310416
metal is a guitar trap

shredderfags
what do you guys think of RKL?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKpHYB2SYZ4
i always said it was every metal fans fav punk band they never knew about. theyre basically just a thrash band. a really fucking good one

>>127310465
>guitar trap
What is this

>i write my magnum opus song about my life experiences. thoughts?
well, non-religious-entity,
these memes don't hit the same
ever since my bae ran opps,
against my rizz game...
on god she had the most
deep billie eyes,
her pressed on nails,
i believe could touch the sky.
eyebrows like the caterpillars
up there in the trees;
or what i assume a tree,
would look like (i live in the city)
i throw on my socks and slides,
to try to greet the day
scroll tiktok for a few
hours then on my way.
for real i try to keep it bussin,
but the memes don't hit the same...

>>127310295
>And imagination and extrapolation goes a long way. Hell, even reading about other peoples lives can go a long way to creating good lyrics.
Emily Dickinson wrote a lot of her famous romance poetry as a virgin. Homer was a blind man who never saw (heh) combat

>>127310383
metal is for angry teenagers and men who never matured past high school. If you're in your 30s and unironically listen to metal as a core genre you are pathetic.

>>127310546
If you're in your 30s trooncasing you are pathetic.

>>127310524
hush no critical thinking allowed in the zoomtard era, we all need to think like retards and pseudo autistically

>>127310553
I don't even know what trooncasing is. I'm just saying that old metal heads are cringy. It's fine to listen to it once in awhile but if you're blasting death metal in your car on the way to work and only listen to metal after the age of 30 you're pathetic.

>>127310510
now just sample all the zoomer trigger noises and litter the song with them
>common text ringtones
>discord message beep
>common stock audio samples used in jewtube vids
etc
just make the whole song be noises to agitate their programming
boom: hit single
youll be the new rick astley

>>127310583
so basically harmonize it to any tim henson guitar piece

>>127310581
Feels like you walked it back a little there. How much metal am I allowed to listen to before I'm pathetic? No more than you?

is writing songs with vocals and an electric guitar as the only instrument a thing
I know it's pretty common with acoustics but electrics always seem to at least have drums accompanying them

>>127310524
That's my point.
If you're creative you don't need to have fully experienced events to write about them.

if youre a guitar nerd (which is assumed ITT) metal has a lot to offer. its the largest application you have to flex your guitar chops in the modern day, and its not close. more so than jazz even imo. and unlike jazzers, theres actually gigs lol

i dont rly listen to it either desu, and i dont even rly have the chops for it, truthfully. but i get why ppl like it

>>127310605
You don't need drums

>>127305807 (OP)
Who will be the first to shred atop Everest?

>>127310565
Uh I was supporting the argument of the poster I was replying to, if you couldn't tell.
>>127310605
First example that came to mind was Trigger Cut by Pavement (there's a drumless version somewhere I heard long ago). You could also just cut the percussion out of a lot of black metal and it wouldn't feel incomplete. But neither of those real examples, I don't know about elecric guitar with no percussion in a final, official version of music..

>>127310598
I said if you listen to it as a core genre as in every day. If you daydream about metal music, go to metal shows every month, blast it in your car, talk down to people who listen to softer music, and you're in your 30s, that's fucking cringe bro. You know exactly the rusted out ford ranger high vis wearing chain smoking, monster energy chugging, male pattern baldness, unkempt beard type of dude I'm talking about.

zoomer be like

TROONS TTROONS TROONS

why are you so ignorant about TROONS lmao

What's with the Zoomer hate? If they're interested in playing an instrument they are obviously not the brainrotted zoomer you're thinking of.

I love stoner rock

>>127310658
>every day
>daydream
>monthly metal shows
>blast it in your car
>talk down to people who listen to softer music
>in 30s
>rusted ford ranger
>high vis
>chain smoking
>mosnter energy
>bald
>unkempt beard
OK how many of these until it counts?

>>127310664
ok but how is that relevant to trooncasing? How can you be so ignorant?

>>127310695
Idk but I've interacted with way too many of that exact guy in my life. They're usually hanging out at a bar guzzling bud light after getting off their shift at the construction factory. Which is unironically the only job they're qualified to do as they dropped out of middle school and are illiterate.

>>127310664
Because when they say
>i'm so old im 27 can i learn to play X or do Y
it feels incredibly disingenuous, they are fucking rats that always act in bad faith. You are too old (stupid) to tell. How come every generation always called BS when they see it but apparently now we need to pretend to be fucking idiots? I'm not an idiot sorry if you are. I'd rather hang out with 60 year olds that are not idiots than with a failure of a generation.

>>127310605
always liked this one
its still half acoustic, but the elec is rly prominent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2A_GAb6rMM
just gotta make sure you get the guitar sounding perfect tho, since theres nowhere to hide in the mix. try to make sure you have a "wider" EQ/tone than youd normally do in a full mix.

>>127310664
pretty much
its a good sign of sentience at least

lmfao wtf is trooncasing

>>127310758
buying a guitar with "caster" anywhere in the name

>>127310781
oh im allergic to strats

>>127310781
Jazzmaster chads stay winning

>>127310758
Typing without any punctuation or capitalization. Basically if you're the type who'd sooner throw out an ironic xd than an unironic XD.

>>127310819
woah sounds pretty crazy xd

>ironic xd
>unironic XD
>trooncasing vs TroonCasing.

i hate zoomers so much it's actually unreal.

>>127310284
Diaper doom

>>127310758
Prolly lookin for troonies to rob

How many furries in this general?

>>127310819
You mean how everyone who isn’t phone posting types on 4chan? Since when did we let troons appropriate that part of our culture?

>>127311114
>troons
Zoomers*

They still mald about pharagraphs being reddit spacing

>>127311114
It wasn't appropriated, the people doing it simply transitioned. Also proper typing and emoticons were the norm in the 2000s

>>127311133
I’ve been typing like that since 99. It goes back to online gaming before voice chat when you had to type your shitposts and then early texting / instant messaging / irc. It was just easier and more casual to type without worrying about punctuation. Zoomers have never used a device without autocorrect apparently

Tell us about the 90s fucking fir yiffing geezer

>>127311192
subhuman mutt malding

>>127311146
…ok?
I spent the entirety of the late 90s and early 2000s online and we did not. You must have been on the normie side of the internet surfing the World Wide Web and composing E-Mail’s with your America On-Line subscription.

guitar?

zoomers are a failure of a generation

>>127311252
how is guitar relevant to troons?

>>127311317
troons can prolly shred
huge hands

>>127311317
Who buys all the ugly fender offsets

>>127311359
/gg/

Cool thread.

>>127311228
Transhuman dad gamer

That guitar shop I took to my American Vibe Classic telecaster with the Bigsby to is a moron. Nothing has been set. It has zero relief, there's fret buzz on the first three frets. I played it in the store before I took it how, and seemed fine, but then I really it's because that dude uses an incredibly weak pick. Meanwhile when I play, I get fret buzzed. I paid this dude $20 for nothing.

>>127311550
Told you, you will never amount to ANYTHING because you are a zoomer.

/betall 60 year old

>>127311322
Lowendlobster, Kayla Kent the list goes on.

>>127311550
$20? i don't know anyone that do anything but restring a guitar for $20. do you want my help setting up your guitar?

>>127311555
i really did not expect lobster to troon out

>>127311589
Waiting for puisheen to spread his butterfly wings

>>127311580
desu I kinda know what to do, I just didn't feel like having to do it myself because from what I've seen and read, setting up bigsbys can be a pain and I didn't know whether the neck would need to be shimmed because the strings aren't clearing the "guard" of the mustang and the G,B,and Low E strings touch it. He said it was fine though.

>>127311661
*Mustang bridge
Also, I'm mistaken. It's only to low E that touches

>>127310546
>>127310581
>>127310658
>>127310719
Youre too gay to be a music cop

>>127311699
*high E
I'm sorry, I'm incredibly tired. Think I'm just gonna take a nap and deal with this tomorrow.

>>127311699
if anything that saddle needs to come down to get that string off of it. a shim would make it worse.

>>127311707
i would try backing the truss rod off a 1/8-1/4 turn to get just enough relief (which will raise the action) to lower the treble side of the saddle a turn. that should solve both your problems

>>127307208
I don't give (You)'s to full songs, this isn't /prod/, incredibly easy to fake and mediocre. If your playing is so impressive post just guitar and click/drums. Otherwise you're just larping.

>>127306993
>>127306939
Now these are good vocas.

>>127305884
is this gwar

>>127311964
man of reason

Is muh tonewood still a fag discussion for retarded boomers when to comes to acoustic instruments?

>>127311964
It’s a cover play through. I don’t have the original stems and it would sound like shit played to a click. I had my track set 25% louder than the original track. You can hear where I played things differently in the solo or missed an artificial harmonic. You can hear when I accidentally rolled the volume off too much and hit the noisegate in the verse. I have no reason to fake anything and really don’t care if you think I did. My vibrato and feel is very close to zakk’s when I want it to be. He’s one of my major influences.

listen to my sloppy woppy riff
https://vocaroo.com/15lUoArH6vff

>>127312069
And I will say these Duncan distortion pickups are not great at picking up artificial harmonics on the low strings. Not effortless like emg’s. If I don’t really dig in hard and pick exactly the right spot it won’t ring out. I think I would want something with emg’s if I ever played this live.

>>127312069
Nobody is listening to a 34 minute vocaroo.
I want to hear guitar not cover songs.
You do care because you are responding and trying to convince people otherwise.
If it sounds like shit to a click it sounds like shit period.

>>127312084
reminds me of Orion but in major

>>127312157
it starts off in major but then goes to minor

>>127312168
yeah i got that its the notes in between that are fucking with me

>>127312110
The pickups don't affect this, I can artificial harmonic on an acoustic.

is there a better way of recording through a computer than just playing cleanly in audacity and then applying a guitar amp effect on the track?

>>127312247
you can either mic a real amp or get a multi fx pedal that can also be a dai

[spoiler]i thought trooncasing was the pink guitar cases that some guitars come with, not some shitty nu- phone grammar nazi[/spoiler]

:/

>>127312247
Look into amp sims, Amplitube is probably easiest

>>127312296
i have bias fx 2 that came with my scarlett, but there isn't a way to set it as an input for audacity

Anyone who says they can do this is lying!

>>127311738
I adjusted the truss rod, but didn't really notice a difference. I'm gonna deal with this shit tomorrow, and either buy a feeler gauge and deal with it myself, or try to see if I can find someone else if it ends up giving me problems. I also remembered, he left the 9 gauge stock strings on. I was gonna man change them, but he recommended to leave them on if I'm still learning, and switch after they go bad. I think that dude just plays way lightly so he didn't notice anything. I play a bit heavier them him.

>>127312247
You can play that amp effect live and then record it through an actual mic to give it a livelier sound. Direct input always sounds like direct input, if you do the audacity thing, clone your clean guitar and double track it, only put the effect on one leaving the clean underneath it helps.

>>127312305
I don't know about Audacity, sounds like it's shit. I use Reaper or Protools Free. There's also the free Fender daw that has effects.

>>127312319
how else are you supposed to play Hotrs?

>>127312319
Can't play an E Shape Barre? That's day 1 shit anon.
NGMI

>>127312358
to be fair it's harder on an acoustic like the image

>>127312319
They are pressing way too hard, your fingers should not be going white at the tips lmao.

>how mfs be grippin their barre chords
>why muh hand hurt

Someone said yesterday "just because you're good at electric doesn't mean you'll be good at acoustic" and I don't really understood what he meant

>>127312418
How the fuck else am I supposed to do it without getting a grainy sound?

>>127312432
Set your guitar up properly. Put the correct part of your finger on the correct part of the neck.

In reference to the picture posted, what is posted is incorrect.

1. Use the bone not the flesh, you have to use the very tips over your fingers for maximum leverage. His middle finger placement is correct, his pinky is not, that is all meat and not the tip. His ring finger is not correct either, he is on the meat not the bone hence why he has to press harder. The index finger needs to be rolled to the side a bit which cannot really be determined from that photo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr2vuJxHQQo&t=2s

2. Make sure action isn't too high, especially shouldn't be high or hard to fret the first fret something is very wrong if this is difficult.

>>127312319
Try Bdim

>>127312472
what in the fuck it works

>>127312319
>f major barre chord
>bottom two strings aren't barred

>>127312472
I own an AR-15.

>>127312534
I own throwing knives

>>127312146
Happy now, fag?
https://vocaroo.com/19aNo9DXmtXA

>>127312560

>>127312560

>>127312560

>>127312545
I own 2 shares of general electric.

uh oh /gg/

>>127312214
>>127312555
They do. I'm hitting the harmonics it's just not ringing out as loud or strong as it would on EMG's. I mean, I could hit better harmonics on my vintage les paul pafs. I'm not digging the distortions very much and will probably replace them with jb/59.

>>127312555
now this is rock and roll good job buddy

>>127311699
??? Just turn the bass-end thumb screw to raise the bridge a little.
Either that, or the neck might be too straight. Hold the guitar sideways and look down the neck, does it appear curved?
If you adjust the bridge, don't forget to re-intonate by fretting the string at the 12th fret and plucking.
T. literally set up a les paul yesterday for a friend in 10 minutes

>>127312591
youre prolly just doing something retarded like trying to do it on your neck pickup/out-of-phase