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Anonymous No.127313496 >>127313547 >>127313563 >>127313573 >>127313673 >>127313739 >>127313845 >>127313929 >>127316172 >>127318342 >>127318404 >>127318454 >>127318547 >>127318779 >>127321318 >>127321414 >>127321544
ITT: Post good later career albums (20+ years after debut)
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Anonymous No.127313526 >>127318550
Anonymous No.127313547
>>127313496 (OP)
blackstar
Anonymous No.127313563 >>127313594
>>127313496 (OP)
i prefer snakes and arrows
Anonymous No.127313573 >>127313602 >>127313633
>>127313496 (OP)
Anonymous No.127313576
Anonymous No.127313594 >>127313606 >>127320651 >>127321534
>>127313563
snakes and arrows is fucking boring imo. clockwork angels has much more vigor.
Anonymous No.127313602 >>127320213
>>127313573
very mediocre, plodding album with only a couple of highlights, although not as dull as the stuff they would churn out in later years.
Anonymous No.127313606 >>127313749
>>127313594
i agree it has more vigor, but the songs on snakes and arrows are better written imho
Anonymous No.127313616 >>127320651
Anonymous No.127313633 >>127313769
>>127313573
I'm a Dance of Death kinda guy.
Anonymous No.127313640
The Terror is awesome too but jesus
Anonymous No.127313673
>>127313496 (OP)
Gorguts - Colored Sands
Anonymous No.127313739
>>127313496 (OP)
The Seer, To Be Kind, and The Glowing Man
Anonymous No.127313749
>>127313606
hard disagree, but maybe you're talking about lyrics; I don't give a shit about lyrics
Anonymous No.127313751 >>127320651
Anonymous No.127313768
the next crystal castles album

it's coming i can feel it
Anonymous No.127313769
>>127313633
after they recorded the title track they should have broken up out of embarrassment and probably killed themselves as well
Anonymous No.127313782
hum - inlet
Anonymous No.127313785
A Moon Shaped Pool
Anonymous No.127313845
>>127313496 (OP)
Aphex Twin - Syro
My Bloody Valentine - mbv
Sleep - The Sciences
Autechre - Exai
Anonymous No.127313929 >>127315060 >>127318763
>>127313496 (OP)
Anonymous No.127314305 >>127320270
https://youtu.be/v87KyeDcX4s
https://youtu.be/K7Vctn0Pin0
Anonymous No.127315060 >>127318763
>>127313929
This but it's Kartehl
Anonymous No.127316172
>>127313496 (OP)
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Anonymous No.127318342
>>127313496 (OP)
based choice
Anonymous No.127318381 >>127318725 >>127323119
I always wonder why it's so common to get worse after the first handful of albums and just churn out mediocre stuff when it's the opposite with the great composers of classical music who got better with age if anything, and I wonder if the acts who keep making good stuff late in their career are (probably unintentionally) doing something similar to those composers.
Anonymous No.127318404
>>127313496 (OP)
Anonymous No.127318454
>>127313496 (OP)
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Anonymous No.127318547
>>127313496 (OP)
Soused is good too
Anonymous No.127318550
>>127313526
great album
Anonymous No.127318725
>>127318381
I assume artists are hungrier and have something to prove when they're younger and not known. When they're older and successful that feeling fades. Plus fans just want to hear the hits at shows and no new stuff no matter how good it is. It imagine it's also why the time between albums get longer from 2-3 years to 4+.
Anonymous No.127318763 >>127320164
>>127313929
beat me to it
>>127315060
it's one of their weakest albums
Anonymous No.127318779 >>127320651
>>127313496 (OP)
Only rockists and metalheads ask these kinds of questions because classical and jazz artists rarely turn to shit after 20 years
Anonymous No.127320164 >>127321158
>>127318763
Magma autists only hate it because it's poppy and upbeat
Anonymous No.127320213
>>127313602
>very mediocre, plodding album with only a couple of highlights
Thus describing the vast majority of Iron Maiden albums
Anonymous No.127320270 >>127323727
>>127314305
The Fall is cheating, most of their late albums are great
Anonymous No.127320328
Her best album OBJECTIVELY.

The sound of the 2000s
Anonymous No.127320345
It counts!
Anonymous No.127320585
Anonymous No.127320651 >>127321265
>>127313594
Agreed. The harder more modern metal sounding production was perfect for their swansong imo.
>>127313616
Good post.
>>127313751
Karl and the boys are so consistent.
>>127318779
Agreed on classical but I'm not convinced about jazz. Several of the best died young (even then I barely tolerated Coltrane's last stuff), late period Miles Davis says hello, Bill Evans, Don Cherry, several jazz musicians peaked early and fell off.
Anonymous No.127321158
>>127320164
>hate it
It's a good album, it's just also one of their weakest
Anonymous No.127321265
>>127320651
>not convinced about jazz
Dave Holland
Sonny Fortune
Wayne Shorter
Mal Waldron
Art Pepper
Max Roach
Dexter Gordon
Horace Parlan
Sidney Bechet
Marshall Allen
Sonny Rollins
Ahmad Jamal
McCoy Tyner
George Shearing
Coleman Hawkins
Bud Powell
Mary Lou Williams
Charles Lloyd
Hank Mobley
Ray Brown
Johnny Griffin
Stanley Turrentine
Oliver Nelson
Lester Young
Jaki Byard
Oscar Peterson
Herb Ellis
Grant Green
Zoot Sims
Barry Harris
Lou Donaldson
Charles McPherson

Then again your taste seems very "list goes on!" so I'm not surprised.
Anonymous No.127321318
>>127313496 (OP)
Her final album she put out 35+ years after her debut and it's one of her best, but faggots and hipsters only talk about the new age ambient shit because of muh white wahmen spirituality nonsense.
Anonymous No.127321399 >>127321424
Etape 2 is probably their best song in their entire catalogue.
Anonymous No.127321414
>>127313496 (OP)
Anonymous No.127321424
>>127321399
>later career
>10 years into it
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Anonymous No.127321515
Brian Eno is an easy example
Anonymous No.127321534 >>127322634
>>127313594
Hard disagree, Snakes and Arrows is much more emotional and memorable. Clockwork Angels is good for what it is but I only come back to BU2B and The Anarchist.
Anonymous No.127321544
>>127313496 (OP)
Zorn supremacy
Anonymous No.127321638
Dinosaur post reunion has been solid, personally would say they haven't put out less than a 7.
Anonymous No.127321878 >>127323163
Mike Oldfield released Amarok 17 years and 12 albums after his debut. He then released Return To Ommadawn 44 years and 25 albums after his debut.

Both of these albums are flawless masterpieces in my mind and surpass all of his earlier albums.
Anonymous No.127321891
IYKYK
Anonymous No.127322634
>>127321534
you don't like headlong flight?? that fits your description perfectly
Anonymous No.127322930
For someone who started in the late 60s his whole career has been shockingly good. Most musicians of that vintage lost their mojo somewhere around 1980 but he's never really put out anything that was mediocre or worse
Anonymous No.127323119
>>127318381
I've thought about this a lot over the years, as I'm sure a lot of people have, and I've never really come up with a satisfactory answer myself, but I have a few hypotheses
1. Popular music is inherently a far more commercialized environment than classical music, which is more academic. Classical composers, past or present, were probably bound by less of an incentive to adapt to new tastes and styles even if it was the beginning of a new movement, because they didn't have to worry as much about pressure from managers and labels and their own paychecks. Plenty of composers made music as an aside to their residencies in universities, so not only were they always going to make a living, they also had more time in the oven for new compositions
2. Popular music over the past century has often evolved at such a rapid pace that past paradigms can be turned on their heads in only a few years. One especially true example is hip hop and other electronic music in the 1990s, where the technology and composition techniques between the start and the end of the decade are almost unrecognizable, and electronic albums considered cutting-edge in 1990 might sound hopelessly primitive compared to what was possible even five years later, let alone nine
3. People almost always prefer what's familiar to them, and get more complacent and less explorative as they age, so once a musician finds one workflow that they like, that might be the one workflow they'll keep using forever. This compounds with point #2 to create a situation where musicians set in their ways encounter a new approach to making music and have no idea how to use it to good effect or are completely unwilling to learn, so the end result is awkward and dispassionate and clearly just holding out for the nostalgia revival period that they can coast on ten years later
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Anonymous No.127323163
>>127321878
>and surpass all of his earlier albums.
Anonymous No.127323727
>>127320270
Only artist that achieved that probably thanks to the unique phrasing. MES death was a big kultur loss
Anonymous No.127324926
https://youtu.be/7lgmJBA0AD0