Harp Edition
https://youtu.be/elHA8sPmHM4

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://rentry.org/classicalgen

Previous: >>127300837

now playing

Scriabin: Fantaisie in B minor, Op. 28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0SIC745gto&list=OLAK5uy_l3o77OKbsBg_6pLXbkZrrEw4NS5KBAQ04&index=2

start of Scriabin: Sonata No. 2 Sonata-Fantasy in G-sharp minor, Op. 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1f-vils5qg&list=OLAK5uy_l3o77OKbsBg_6pLXbkZrrEw4NS5KBAQ04&index=3

start of Scriabin: Sonata No. 3 in F-sharp minor, Op. 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZFSJ1aKRNc&list=OLAK5uy_l3o77OKbsBg_6pLXbkZrrEw4NS5KBAQ04&index=5

Scriabin: Vers la flamme, Op. 72
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Gdl2Bg6mo&list=OLAK5uy_l3o77OKbsBg_6pLXbkZrrEw4NS5KBAQ04&index=16

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l3o77OKbsBg_6pLXbkZrrEw4NS5KBAQ04

Just a random Scriabin recital album with some plaudits. There's a handful of other pieces on the recording too.

Monteverdi and before, nothing after

sometimes I think that I'm the only one here who enjoys every era

>>127319340
>>127318903
Granted, it probably also has to do with me more often seeking out recordings that observe the repeats so I tend to skip over ones that don't. Probably should do that less. Though it is a genuine gripe I have when recordings do that.

>>127320663
Nah that's a fair preference to seek out.

Chopin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4NaxAXIfWk&list=OLAK5uy_nPQPRRTm9HjdeM38ZiEkg2H7Gv-47-Zx4&index=10

>>127320558
I like on average everything up to the Romantic period, then I get really picky with composers
>>127320748
On one hand, I am already so extremely familiar with these works I could play them in my head, so it doesn't bother me too much when a recording skips it. But on the other hand, I do think it's important to be observed just for the fact that the composer wrote it in the score for a reason, and I haven't really heard any solid arguments as to whether these symphonies were ever performed with the repeat skipped in their time. I like romanticisms in my classical-period music, but blatantly ignoring the composers instructions is taking it a bit too far

There's a dark paranoic quality to Scriabin's work that makes me wonder if he didn't sercretly have Jewish ancestry

is there anything from the Classical period with actual emotion to it?

>>127320385
Stylistically this makes very little sense because Monteverdi was a transitional figure who composed music both in the old style and the new style

>>127320843
Same but Strauss.

>>127320843
2deep4u?

>>127320843
almost like the x and before y and after meme is a artistic chastity cage for inhibited cucks

I need to listen to more piano Bach arrangements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsmak8CKQ0&list=OLAK5uy_kTkDqvwmGtPk262wuYcj41il47qgk3p58&index=1

Then there's the Partita 2 chaconne arrangement by Brahms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gQ-Y0b3Ajs&list=OLAK5uy_lYcjatHBOJ9raY_ysy_miCCz9jWtweHlI&index=36

There's a lot of hidden gems with these pieces, and a lot of potential for original interpretations and performances because they haven't been done to death already for a century.

>>127320988
Mozart's Requiem lacks emotion?

>>127321077
aside from choral music

In a way I admire Schoenberg more than Bach. Schoenberg was at least an innovator and showed true inspiration in his work. True the 'system' he created was idiotic and abritary hatched from the wellspring of a neurotic mind and the dark not altogether unfounded fantasies about what lay behind the passing glances of the goyim; but at least it showed he was a real artist. Bach was no artist but a mere musician. His style was outdated even in his day and he merely worked in the existing well established forms. He was highly prolific but only because his work was highly formulaic. He could pump out his work very fast but there were no surprises or genuine creative outbursts. Even his ideas such as they were, were entirely conceptual.

>>127321033
the fuck are you even talking about?

There's a dark paranoic quality to Schoenberg's work that makes me wonder if he didn't secretly have Jewish ancestry

>>127320988
blocks you're path
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF0JvIXB3QY&list=OLAK5uy_mcqhKgtK-unO8IyRBKIThFw8FqPU-bJFc&index=1

pssh, nuthin personnel, kid

Also Mozart's Prussian string quartets and piano quartets, provided you don't listen to a HIP ensemble

Some people say the piano concertos too but I've never loved them

Strauss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVzm1x2Dt04&list=OLAK5uy_mUnPowNlNbLaed8O9sH1LWy_DsCq_AicI&index=11

Hello just visiting here, questions for euros. since when do we tolerate those kind of high pitched "wooos" from the public at the end of symphonic concerts to cheer? I always associated this with female public in american televsion late show and such. But why is this now accepted instead of an onest bravo.

Liszt's cello music is so weird and unique, they should get more attention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaE6tnF04M0&list=OLAK5uy_n63HudpTpjkuuxP6NHl5T_9Fnl5Jr80No&index=3

Very "third book of Annees de pelerinage" esque

>>127321191
This would be powerful if used right in a TV show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAnPCl7u8BE

Is this Dave's most important video so far

what do we think of Perahia's Chopin? just added his collected set to listen to later, doesn't contain any Nocturnes, sadly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvqhZjFMm40&list=OLAK5uy_nI4KgSWmsIC5yF9-JoxN41JA1Z--CfS4Y&index=39

also relevant piece to the Harp edition OP

>>127321208
Look at that album cover mother of fuck they don't even care that it's bad

>>127321267
I think it gives off that austere, melancholy, and desolate feeling well

favorite recording of Liszt's Années de pèlerinage? i have the Ciccolini one.

Liszt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8CoN8T1Fw&list=OLAK5uy_m8J5WiNCpFHawymLpFu7yQu5aI1xDQW3o&index=41

>>127321369
There's lots of great ones! And I have a handful of favorite go-to's for listening. But if I had to pick one to bring with me to the desert island, I'd take, without a doubt, Rubackyte's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaMKGnZkBOA&list=OLAK5uy_m8U0POVu6b7VvQX04nBrS6idiIw6JAPv4&index=1

Chopin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFd0XyfBwMg&list=OLAK5uy_m8YPa8ZTs6fjqLSQFAqMhMNqjlxOAykm8&index=15

>>127321262
Salon slop

This is a silly thing to bring up, but man, the names of lesser-known, lower-tier symphonists are so hard to remember for me. I'll get into the mood of listening to a non-standard repertoire symphony and I'll end up going, "Fuck, what was the name of that one I came across by luck that one time, which only has one recording... damnit," it's impossible, I should've started writing them down or something.

On the flip, the argument is, of course, if they were truly worthwhile, then one wouldn't have any problem remembering them, but sometimes you want variety for variety's sake above all else, even if the symphony is 'only' a 7/10. Anyway...

>>127320558
Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque chad reporting in. Romantic/Modern is where I get picky, Hate the classical era though.

Bach and Before, Debussy/Ives after.

>In that intimate circle of artistic friends to which Ravel belonged — Les Apaches — he was nicknamed Rara. This was, no doubt, derived from the first syllable of his name but, of course, it carried with it the most apt Latin connotations; did it also, I wonder, remind them, as it reminds me, of ‘Maestro Raro’ the nickname that Schumann gave to himself to denote his integral artistic identity, Florestan and Eusebius held in perfect equilibrium? It has become a commonplace to talk of musical ‘split personality’ in the case of Schumann, increasingly, too, in the case of Liszt (Faust/Mephistopheles, Franciscan/Gypsy, and so on), and yet a detailed examination of the complex of attitudes that make up Ravel reveals a duality quite as pronounced as either. (Significantly, he venerated both the older masters, and their influence on him, particularly that of Liszt, is incalculable).

>Ricardo Viñes, his friend from childhood, described Ravel aged 21 as “…very complicated, there being in him a mixture of Middle Ages Catholicism and satanic impiety, but also with a love of Art and Beauty which guide him and which make him react candidly.” That is but one way of characterising this fundamental antithesis — ‘light’/‘dark’, ‘Apollonian’/‘Dionysiac’, ‘Aesthetic’/‘Decadent’ would be equally appropriate antitheses, all of them in some way limited and limiting. What is really remarkable is not only Ravel’s ability to explore separate sides of his personality in individual works, but also the absolute necessity of holding both sides in equilibrium so that he almost invariably had two works on the go at the same time.

hmm

Bach and Before, Bach and after.

>>127321771
Tallis' Spem in Alium followed by Messiaen's Catalogue d'oiseaux then closing with Schutz's Opus Ultimum? too patrician for me

Late Beethoven and after
Parsifal and before

>>127321779
This reminds of Bach and how he was most likely what we'd call today an atheist but due to the prejudices and restraints of his day he had to maintain a veneer of Christianity

>>127321866
sigh

>>127321866
le sigh

>>127321282
Lay off the leftism and the marijuana., kid

now playing

start of George Lloyd: Symphony No. 4 in B Minor "Arctic"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx9Vgr16jV4&list=OLAK5uy_nLdhGu-Nrp7tKC7ByNxdQ0uI_G_d5wP9g&index=18

start of George Lloyd: Symphony No. 5 in B-Flat Major
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3meFRoVSOk&list=OLAK5uy_nLdhGu-Nrp7tKC7ByNxdQ0uI_G_d5wP9g&index=22

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nLdhGu-Nrp7tKC7ByNxdQ0uI_G_d5wP9g

I remember when someone showed me this here for the first time 3 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UPcU-mbWkY&list=RD2UPcU-mbWkY&start_radio=1

Is there any reason to listen to orchestral rendtions of the Rite of Spring now that we have the superior metal version?

Brahms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Xk2kWt1wQ&list=OLAK5uy_m4sIOY7b4bAIskp-ekgAagztthh4DD6SY&index=6

>>127322323
Sorry. Can only listen to music my showed me when I was younger and artist adjacent.

>>127322348
what

>>127322367
*me mum.*

>>127322323
I usually hate hiss recordings but this one actually adds a lot of character to it. It's like I'm listening to my neighbors listen to his on a gramophone and dancing along in secret.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpnlOF5CUY

Messiaen essential works?

>>127322384
Are you from the past?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYNywZgEPm4

>>127322407
Vingt regards sur l'enfant-Jésus, La Transfiguration de Notre Seigneur Jésus-Christ, Quatuor pour la fin du temps, Visions de l'Amen, Turangalîla-Symphonie, the list goes on... oh, L'ascension too

thoughts on the pianist Idil Biret? she's the one with like a thousand recordings on Naxos

>>127322554
how is the Warner complete edition?

>>127322625
Classical is for intellectual men. That's the way it's been since 1960 and before,

>>127320558
>I like everything
Because you lack the perspicacity to discern between eras and the intellectual confidence to make a firm judgement as to which is better.

>>127322739
>i like everything
I didn't say that, or even that I like everything equally.
and to me it looks like you're the one who's insecure enough to feel compelled to set up otherwise needless/arbitrary comparisons to find the "superior" choice among non-mutually-exclusive things, so that you feel as though you like the "correct" or "superior" one. The inflammatory tone of your post only adds to my suspicion that this is the case.

This set by Abbey Simon is frequently named as one of the best complete solo piano Ravel recordings, so let's finally give it a try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Herjv8CmGA&list=OLAK5uy_k2Dik53JZkX-WRoYbTD4Zks_kNzXwsAtk&index=1

I also added the set by Steven Osbourne to try soon.

>>127322828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86qKgK0asGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulxu2CRSbBw


Vivaldi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqhweQa0QMY

>>127321133
Fuckin slander if you ask me

>>127321239
>Hello friends. Where the African Sewer Eels at?

Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXNvaV-iok
Life is but a paltry measure
But a foretaste of the treasure,
We with Him will one day share

bought a decent cello, waiting for it to arrive. anyone got tips? total beginner

>>127323055
Start with Dvorak's Cello Concerto

>>127321707
saloon slop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B88FWt2ustQ

>>127323055
get a teacher

>>127323055
Very cool. What motivated you to buy it? Do you personally know anyone else who plays it?

>>127323055
Cello is it me you're looking for?

now playing

start of Shostakovich: Symphony No. 11 in G Minor, Op. 103 "The Year 1905"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZLlk6HBwiY&list=OLAK5uy_k9ub8VV9OJq2s-p4TD0PyCrPtNNIoWyDM&index=74

start of Shostakovich: Symphony No. 12 in D Minor, Op. 112 "The Year 1917"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dspvR9mxvTU&list=OLAK5uy_k9ub8VV9OJq2s-p4TD0PyCrPtNNIoWyDM&index=12

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9ub8VV9OJq2s-p4TD0PyCrPtNNIoWyDM

I used to think these symphonies were boring as fuck -- hell, I used to think 'symphony' was a misnomer considering nothing happens in them -- but now I find them rather comfy.

Bruckner's 8th's adagio
that is all

>>127323495
Fuck gommunism. Not even Tchaikovsky or Rachmannioff thought about that.

>>127323711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_2_3zzAlj4&list=OLAK5uy_myiJqKTsuqIhC6l_v07-arpSn_uyCwVis&index=3
yes

>>127323405
i like the sound of it. i tried piano for a bit and got a cheap keyboard (which was more detrimental) but piano is too sentimental and ive never really connected with it, i'm more into baroque sounds. i'd prefer harpsichord instead or organ, but they are impossible to get. i could go for a nice keyboard but the portability of an acoustic instrument is nice

since im a neet i thought it would be good invest my time into an instrument though im in my 30s. dont know anyone who plays it and im afraid i'll never find a teacher in my small city --- it will be extremely tough to learn by myself i know but it shouldn't be impossible with enough dedication. (my neighbors will possibly suffer in the beginning)

btw i grew up listening some paganini and now i cant stand violin anymore. cello is violin but good. pick any piece be it from vivaldi or paganini and they sound better on a cello. check vivaldi's summer on a cello. beautiful

>>127324297
caring this much about timbre is a sign of earletness
what matters is the notes

>>127323359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDalTA3hjFo

>>127323359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iF_r1SfBx4

Händel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzm_ZLWgOsA

Händel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbwCNm36ex4

Händel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hUXUyNrYt4

Does anything else sound similar to Saint Saen's Aquarium?

I want my drummer fren to learn a classical instrument so that we can perform some chamber music together. What instrument is most realistic on that front?

>>127327566
kill yourself right now.

>>127327872
Rude :(

>>127327566
What do you know how to play?

>>127327885
Piano, I'd like to play some sonatas with him

>>127327566
>>127327889
Maybe flute/clarinet? but that's kinda lame and restricted

Man, it really is all chemicals, huh? I wake up, put on a recording and it sounds great, take my daily medicine, and over the next hour and a half as the medicine begins to take effect and change my brain chemistry and affect my entire conscious experience, my feelings toward the music change dramatically, and by the time the medicine has fully kicked in, I no longer feel the same way about the music at all. I then change to something else which wouldn't have sounded as good to me an hour and a half before because I was, strictly speaking, essentially a different person then before the medicine changed who I was for the day.

>>127328021
Yes. What did you think?

>>127328045
It's more so on the surface you would think something which requires aesthetic contemplation would be immune to such chemical vicissitudes, like we're not talking about a pregnant lady having cravings for new and bizarre foods, but it is more similar to that than we'd think. This is more akin to finding different philosophies and logical arguments appealing based on your chemical makeup at that moment, which is also the case! But again, would be surprising to some. I don't think most know or would admit if you gave them the right meds, their entire political and aesthetic beliefs can be turned over in a week.

Plus, of course, it's just jarring to experience in real-time. Sorry for the rambling, gotta get all this energy out before the medicine sedates me for the rest of the day and makes me dumb -- if I had to estimate, it easily shaves off 15-20 IQ points. It's worth it though.

>>127328045
>>127328067
Or to put it a better way, one normally has the view of aesthetics as belonging to that higher, immaterial realm of ideas, which is delineated from and immune to chemical changes in the body, but it is not so.

I always laugh at the last line of Jed Distler's review of Hewitt's 1998 WTC recording because of how it relates to her expression on the cover,
>If you missed Hewitt’s “48” the first time around, don’t look this gift horse in the mouth.
kek, there's no way Jed didn't know what connotation was at hand here.

>>127328021
>>127328045
>>127328067
>>127328078
Jewish medicine rapes your brain and turns you into a pretentious materialist who doesn't know what he's talking about, can't make this shit up rofl

>>127328286
Well, metaphysical questions aren't really what's at hand here. I didn't mean only chemicals and strict physicalism exist, but rather everything is filtered through apparatuses which are thoroughly controlled, moderated, and influenced by chemicals, thereby affecting or even outright determining your entire experience and notions of truth. In other words, I'm talking more epistemology and aesthetics here, not metaphysics.

>>127328286
>>127328323
I'm talking more epistemology, aesthetics, and phenomenology* (since I'm starting from the foundation of human experience) here, not metaphysics.

let's get HIP with Kuijken's Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZbMHB5qCiE&list=OLAK5uy_m7UXFXKcn8NVhkvlvdJAyN7Anz_9R0GNQ&index=1

>>127328198
Probably a coincidence like CAPTCHA

feels like a Rachmaninoff Symphony 2 morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74rH6k2xAtQ&list=OLAK5uy_nfMuRsEGLR5JvsV6i9Dgq0MYjtLCHmOu8&index=1

>>127328396
Pretty good. Not listening to his cantata work though.

>>127328478
Yeah I sampled some of it yesterday and it was not for me. There's such a wealth of great HIP recordings of the cantatas that there's no need to settle.

>>127328495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnrOteRurIE

One of the best recordings of the Mass In B Minor according to those in the know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQU0KK1r3sA

I like Vaughan Williams' symphonies quite a bit but I've never been convinced by his third symphony, "Pastoral Symphony.' Giving it another go right now. Anyone else feel the same way, or the opposite, those who love it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PBzc_GdPNQ

>>127328631
The Kyrie Eleison is so much better with boy singers; it is measured and masculine, as there are no hysterically wailing banshees crying mournfully.

>>127328680
It is reinvigorating, which is the entire point of a Kyrie Eleison. The modern tendency to make it depressing, hysterical, and romantic; in other words, overly emotional (feminine).

>>127328720
Really? We live in an age that despises true femininity: Women are encouraged to act like (gay) men. That’s why Sydney Sweeney generates so much seethe.

>>127328756
Um, actually, there is neither male no female because we did away with shamans and initiation rituals.

>>127328795

best recording of Verdi Overtures, Preludes, Ballet Music?

>>127328680
>>127328720
>>127328756
you people are so fucking gay

>>127329047
You are the expert.

Are there any other gays in this general? Just curious. Don't put too much information in your post if you don't want to, just respond with a simple yes if affirmative.

>>127329253
I am gay for pussy, dawg

>>127329253
What in tarnation does this have to do with /classical/? No one cares if you are gay. If you feel the need to bond over it:
>>>/lgbt/

who is the Swans of classical music?

>>127329253
i am the gayest man alive

Hungarian Rhapsodies (orchestral) > Hungarian Rhapsodies (piano)

>>127329253
One guy here keeps posting an anime girl so he's probably gay

>>127329793
either that or a pedophile

>>127329607
>Short repetitive phrases which build into massive crescendos
Bruckner, unironically.

The only difference is that Bruckner is creative and interesting to listen and does something creative either in composition or orchestration. Once you listen to Bruckner you'll probably think swans sucks ass, as does most post rock.

>>127329670
I can't tell if you're joking. I'm a homosexual.
There was a chart showing that homosexual men are overrepresented among classical listeners, so I was curious, and not anything else.

>>127329253
Attracted to men but do not act upon my attraction because i hate faggots.

>>127330283
Same story here. Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

>>127329253
dave should be here somewhere

>>127330501
dave is way too old to know how to use 4chan

now playing

start of Elgar: Introduction and Allegro for Strings, Op. 47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=towJM1aPa_Q&list=OLAK5uy_m42ZJmTI082P2dch6KgK_dS1wlscrtf38&index=2

start of Elgar: Violin Concerto in B Minor, Op. 61
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsxnWd8vafc&list=OLAK5uy_m42ZJmTI082P2dch6KgK_dS1wlscrtf38&index=4

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m42ZJmTI082P2dch6KgK_dS1wlscrtf38&si=fFVIqX3Qd1C1LbnS

>>127330501
>>127330522
And he would be so offended at everything he would kill himself, literally. He deletes comments 24/7.
What are the chances he's actually gay? He's not married?

>>127329743
Shame there isn't orchestration of the entire cycle, I'd love the fuck out of that.

>>127330546
>What are the chances he's actually gay

>>127330546
>What are the chances he's actually gay?
He's mentioned his (African-American) partner in videos before.

>>127330626
I see.
>>127330645
A man his age has a partner? bs.

>>127330645
business partner

Dave doesn't use nuspeak of referring to romantic relationships as "partners"

>>127329388
We've been overrun by shitposters from /metal/ who are upset because they're too stupid for classical.

And now my post just extended their shitposting for another 3 months, (art of) fug.

I love Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade, give me some recs

art of fug(ue)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppx3rz-4MHY&list=OLAK5uy_n4TMQkU0ZvaU5NY0ZbkPknDo7mESxILkY&index=19

I would hug Robert Schumann.

>>127330777
symphonies of Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Borodin, Rimsky, Glazunov, Kalinnikov, Scriabin

violin concertos of Tchaikovsky, Khachaturian, Prokofiev, Glazunov

Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake, The Nutcracker, The Sleeping Beauty; Glazunov's The Seasons; Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet, Cinderella

Schubert's D.960 is surely belongs among the utmost peak of solo piano music, but I gotta say, it gets old pretty fast. Franz really milked the theme for all its worth and then some, and it ends up dragging a bit.

>>127331187
It only gets old fast if you drag the shit out of the first movement, which many pianists do

>>127331217
Reasonable possibility. fav recording(s)?

>>127331187
You keep posting this nonsene, but I love Schubert, and D.960 will always be my top 3 sonatas along with Chopin 3 and Hammerklavier. It never gets old to me. Maybe if I listened to it every single day I would get bored for a while.

>>127331283
I can't remember everything! Favorite recording(s)?

>>127331283
And my issue is I haven't listened to it for months, yet whenever I make the attempt, as soon as I hear that main theme I'm like "ehgh," y'know?

idk

Maybe it's too powerful of a work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qD1nARtMM0
Sofronitsky most based D960

>>127331296
I only listen to 4, and Kempff is by far my favorire, Perahia is pretty close one. I should definitely check out golden age recordings (19th century pianists), but after searching for 5-10 mins I can't find any.
>>127331343
It is a magical work.

>>127331217
>>127331261

that's why my favorite recording doesn't have the exposition repeat

>>127331509
>No. 15
isn't that supposed to be Relique? anyway thanks

>>127331509
Ah yeah Kempff's Beethoven and Schubert are the ones I started with. Worth a revisit. And thanks.

>>127331566
:O

If the exposition is repeated TWICE (for some reason) I will still listen and experience the catharsis of D.960.

>>127331509
>Perahia is pretty close one

gonna listen to that again. i absolutely love his (second) d.959, but his d.960 didn't quite grab me the first time.

what is your worst Classical Music opinion?
mine is that Schubert's Symphonies are better than his Piano works.

>>127331679
>what is your worst Classical Music opinion

monteverdi's sacred works kinda suck (his secular works are marvelous though)

>>127331679
That solo piano is better than orchestea without piano (e.i. excluding piano concerto). Technically orchestra is more expressive, has more dynamics, vastly more color, but still, for some reason, piano is the perfect instrument for me. I can't put into words why and it bothers me. Maybe it's just the timbre has some special effect on my auditory senses.

>>127331566
I like the exposition repeat because it has unique music for it

>>127331679
>what is your worst Classical Music opinion?
Baroque and Classical were the mediocre transitional period between the far superior Renaissance and Romantic periods.

>>127321262
I like his Fantasie Impromptu recording, although I don't care very much for Chopin's études. Perahia also has a good recording of his sonatas.

Anyways, if you'd like a newer recording of his nocturnes, Maurizio Pollini has a very good record of all of Chopin's solo piano music, but I forgot it's name. If not, Rubinstein is the obvious classic option

>>127321262
His Ballades are epic.

>>127331716
I won't argue that romantic is the peak, but which renaissance composer comes close to Bach, Mozart, Haydn and Beethoven? Hell, It's mostly choral, that alone puts it below modernism even.

Bruckner

https://youtu.be/txo0bBeVDXY

Man, Columbia had some great engineers.

>>127331717
>Anyways, if you'd like a newer recording of his nocturnes,
I listened to Fazil Say's last night when going to sleep, I liked it, it was quite distinctive, a refreshing (though not necessarily superior) performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HILPujjg_JY&list=OLAK5uy_l56ekZ1o8S2X-c-DWhYV4xMNE0vVNzJdM&index=12

The funny thing about always using Chopin's (and Faure's) Nocturnes to sleep is I swear I've only ever heard the last couple nocturnes like twice ever while I've heard the first half a million times lmao

/classical/ meet up when

>>127331747
Choral music is an acquired taste, but there is plenty of harpsichord, Organ, Lute music there is also consort music.

>>127331799
I've tried asking people if they wanna attend either the Seattle Symphony or Oregon Symphony in Portland with me but no one seems to live around here. Oh well.

>>127331803
I like some Josquin des Prez and Palestrina myself but idk, to me it's weird to prefer that over just Beethoven alone.

>>127331837
classical period is too cheery for me, maybe it will grow on me some day.

>>127331809
I'd go with you Mahlerkun but I'm on a different continent. Maybe if I ever come to the US...lol

>>127331679
I don't really get Stravinsky's Rite of Spring

>mine is that Schubert's Symphonies are better than his Piano works.
You like all 9?

>>127331854
<3

speaking of Stravinsky, now playing

start of Stravinsky: Le Sacre du Printemps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBTG4uwIG9E&list=OLAK5uy_mbmm4ZuUNT9hWIV8jvRJ4yHFheJEjqGnA&index=2

J.S. Bach: Toccata And Fugue In D Minor, BWV 565 - Arranged By Leopold Stokowski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_iH5k-ZSMY&list=OLAK5uy_mbmm4ZuUNT9hWIV8jvRJ4yHFheJEjqGnA&index=16

J.S. Bach: Passacaglia And Fugue In C Minor, BWV 582 - Arranged By Leopold Stokowski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naBh9Vhc6ZI&list=OLAK5uy_mbmm4ZuUNT9hWIV8jvRJ4yHFheJEjqGnA&index=17

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mbmm4ZuUNT9hWIV8jvRJ4yHFheJEjqGnA

I know I've railed against Nezet-Seguin's mediocre conducting in the past, but when I saw this recording included some of Stokowski's Bach transcriptions, I had to bite.

>>127331870

while googling for opinions and suggestions on Beethoven piano sonata cycles, came across this user on another classical forum (good-music-guide.com) who seemed to be highly respected as the community's go-to expect on, well, Beethoven piano sonata cycles, and this is his tier list, at least the top four tiers (there's a couple more under pic)

not sure how to direct link posts there but it's on this page if you wanna see the lower tiers and cycles he doesn't like
https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=2302.4600

anyway, thoughts?

>>127331974
Good find, saved for later. I'm only familiar with 3-4 cycles.

>>127332020
Yeah, this general hasn't been the best place for discussing and learning about a wide array of cycles because it seems just about everyone here (aside from me) is content with listening to Schnabel and Richter and Fischer for the rest of their lives. Fine recordings, but to me that's boring.

>>127332048
I only listen to Gilels, Kempff, Goodyear and maybe Goode. Goodyear was a nice find, his Hammerklavier is top tier.

>>127332067
Solid choices no doubt.

>>127331717
>although I don't care very much for Chopin's études
Oh? Might be the first person I've ever heard say that.

Uchida!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoPPpe6ikKE

>>127331974
nice to see heidsieck mentioned. that cycle is included in my treasured beethoven "collectors" box, one of my first classical purchases, years ago (it also has the cluytens symphony cycle, yay!). heidsiecks appassionata is tremendous.

that list also makes me despair that i failed to buy the el cheapo rudolf serkin beethoven set before it went out of print. i think it cost around € 20-30 then... now on discogs it goes for € 80-100.

other than heidsieck, i have gilels and gulda from that list, and that's really as many complete cycles as i could possibly need. (there's plenty of individual discs or smaller collections that i cherish though.)

>>127331974
Fischer is too dry
The asians play in the same way
Kempff rated too high
i like schnabel more but he has the same issues with recordings, his best are live and before 1933

>>127331717
>>127332099
Yeah who tf doesn't like some Chopin etudes, you HAVE to like at least one. Tristesse? Winter Wind? Revolutionary? Ocean? Aeolian Harp? Torrent? C'mon.

i ONLY like the etudes and preludes

>>127332264
Ballades and Sonatas would like a word with you. Before you are summoned to the presence of the Barcarolle to answer for your crimes.

>>127332226
>The asians play in the same way
probably why they're all in the same tier xd

>>127332215
Yeah for active listening, 3-4 cycles is a good number. I haven't tried Heidiseck's before, I always figured it was too old and outdated with poor sound quality, but based on your post, I'll give it a try.

What's more pretentious listening to classical or something like Art Zoyd?

>>127332226
>The asians play in the same way
They all look the same as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__hMZL1uosw

Damn zhukov is good

>>127332383
No one here is pretentious. This is all just your intellectual insecurity and fear of missing out because you saw someone appreciate something you don't get. Relax anon.

>>127332443
Fuck off faggot I didn't ask your pussy ass opinion

>>127332464
Okay

anyone here a fan of Alkan's Twelve Etudes in Minor Keys? I'm a sucker for piano cycles, and have both alternately heard they're not worth listening to and that they are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gVwPRlhy1A&list=OLAK5uy_lD30e2CgfQv4qd9xbpgolyOrxBPpYeReg&index=1

I feel like time and the classical industry has filtered the standard repertoire and the lasting works too thinly. For example, someone into Rock or Hip Hop has thousands of albums and artists to choose from. For classical composers, it's really only the same few dozen we listen to today. Surely there have been many thousands of composers over the centuries? Why aren't there hundreds of composers with solo piano music I can listen to?

>>127332099
>>127332255
I'll give it another chance, fellas!

T H E N I N T H
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>>127332852
They're fantastic. Prefer Alkan to Chopin or Liszt honestly.

>>127333181
teH niNtH

>>127333365
what's that white thing he has on his arm below his shoulder? some kind of medical monitor?

Mozart and mafter Beethoven and beethor

>>127333384
USB port. Mr. Hurwitz is a robot in disguise.

>>127332935
anon I really don't want to be rude but this might just be the dumbest post ever made here

>>127331679
reading the replies to this made me wish this general would disappear

Bieber's Partitas 1-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6idLb1ZZLlE&list=RD6idLb1ZZLlE&start_radio=1&ab_channel=harpsichordVal

>>127332935
The other anon is right, this is indeed a dumb question. What we call "classical music" is simply collection of great music by composers we deem to be geniuses. And geniuses are less than 0.01% of the population at any given time. Think of Newton, Leibnitz, Gauss, the geniuses of math and physics, are you really surprised there weren't more like them?
>>127333919
Don't be allergic to different perspectives, you come off as a jerk.

>>127331679
All my classical opinions are terrible. I guess for one I find Chopin a little dull he never lets loose like Liszt does

>>127332935
The other anon is right, this is indeed a dumb question. What we call "classical music" is simply collection of great music by composers we deem to be geniuses. And geniuses are less than 0.01% of the population at any given time. Think of Newton, Leibniz, Gauss, the geniuses of math and physics, are you really surprised there weren't more like them? There weren't more than 100-200.
>>127333919
Don't be allergic to different perspectives, you come off as a jerk.

>Hildegard von Bingen (1098-1179)
Is this the oldest music I can listen to? Is there anyone of note before her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ml1LEcAHYE&list=OLAK5uy_letTXp1RZcIu6_z_3AJREDbe6Brvhr-MY&index=8
holy shit, Chopin sounds like THAT???

>>127334178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WthKX2bQhk0&list=PLKn6tlXtc8kvoxJFTo38vyAaeCTtcTLEu

Barenboim's (2005 EMI live) Beethoven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NToMnlh2Ycc&list=OLAK5uy_mkFeou6ujBvONbc826eosq4izXqAG1L1k&index=33

>>127334404
the bust in the middle is what the historical archeological-classical complex would have you believe Beethoven looked -- the face on the right is how experts now know he looked

Anyone Italian /opera/ here? I watched a modern production of Rigoletto and apart from the stupid director choices the music was fantastic, much better than Puccini whose popularity I don't get at all.

>>127331799
if a meetup were organized it would have to be in Kansas during the summer. Unfortunately, I will be unable to attend since I don't even live in the Americas.

>>127330727
>African-American business partner
Yeah, Thomas Jefferson had African-American ‘business partners’ as well.

now playing

start of Smetana: Má vlast, JB 1:112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaugn0YeH30&list=OLAK5uy_nDXdK-hEvaxIYrZjKrrRLFHjIUdCPQZqk&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nDXdK-hEvaxIYrZjKrrRLFHjIUdCPQZqk

Every review proclaims this as a refreshing, unique interpretation, something Harnoncourt is known for and good at, so let's see what so different about it.

>>127334903
Very, uh, strange, it's like if Celibidache conducted Ma Vlast. Worth checking out though just to see how different it is. Not sure if I'm quite enjoying it so far but it's intriguing and well executed.

Jeppesen (PBUH):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3eI_4Xerb4

>>127334178
Grug of Ulm's Fantasia for Solo Bone Flute - 9753.B.C

>>127334178
Sumer In Paradise

>>127335262
Ulm is actually a city in Germany, Einstein came from Ulm

>>127335608
that's the joke you stupid fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzn0tIy3dzM

What the FUCK, /classical/; I've been on a Hindemith binge (yeah it's me, the "sell me Hindemith" fuck) and it's absolutely amazing. Why don't you ever talk about him? What is wrong with you? His Kammermusik and Konzertmusik series alone are some of the greatest music ever composed in the XXth century.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym_oPBcBiSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhIDBi0Fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow9JzuQ8og4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6LNE-eFKQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xj_8bTCrQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKhWB4LkeUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=937N4QQTbgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXN9YTB7mO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKYDWRzxgpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTq0oIUB3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djedHVxC1cE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_d1aKFDOQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl4VbVs1VKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYm4TK_CC3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_EuaXxTv4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM8k3LbwPIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6AnTHZvNlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFe8Nd0gXns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I19MO4b6NpU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvBoeDm8Tuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqAf54H-LU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgWEwwQ3c10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVNH3XEGsvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cWp9BSKdPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUxrtx1CU0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sp_4iq2w2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyp_GTnBato
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPOAeZTOWgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF-spCWMNn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLbG9TEZqPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIMA5j02JLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FliSjyA4g0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdrycdVOILw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZkX9huvKw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS--K3dPHzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx9itohCcBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKKjmwQc_NY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzmEVpnH_u8

>>127335675
pro tip, you can go into the description and copy over the entire album play list instead of copying each movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym_oPBcBiSs&list=OLAK5uy_nSKhXS9o3xmOKNsoJDt_7xg5BhFr0ab64&index=2

>>127335685
Actual pro tip, playlists don't work as intended when embedded

>>127335702
so don't use embeds

>>127335649
The reason that joke works is becuse it's referring to a Baroque composer who may conceivably lived in Ulm and it's a kind of funny sounding city. Whereas in 9753 Ulm would not have existed, nor would the cities have bore that kind of name

>>127335704
>don't share music
Just listen to the fucking music, anon

>>127335675

>>127335705
but that's where the archaeologists found Grug's original engravings.

>>127335675
This is /mahler/ anon we don't discuss other artists

>>127334178
She worshipped Mary and other demons.

Classical Music to Cure Brain Rot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFgkUKvlcXs
> 32 seconds in and I've already forgotten what skibidi means. Thanks bro.

>>127335781
Skibiidi Wagner?

>>127332128
zzz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQG-Z5gdfg

>>127335675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwg5FHcw1sU&list=PLOQgjeLlwCBMgtKo3Rdy0n1vSBtCor5zb&index=10

i've been relying on youtube autoplay for long symphonies.
recc me some.

>>127335943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZKMzX-0h7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tljZGApvEc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM3deZ3U9io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7obO7XyyQc

>>127335728
There was next to nothing to read, my man. In fact you don't even have to read the post, just listen to the music.
>>127335880
hell yea

>>127335969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRhQhUtOpPI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUs591mw4WY

>>127335760
>and other demons
yeah, Jesus and Jehova

>>127336315
we did it anons, the longest symphonies have been posted
>>127334476
>how experts now """know""" he looked
pic related

>>127321819
I would switch out schutz with Buxtehude or Visee and Messiaen for me is only good up till 1945, so maybe L'ascension or end of time quartet.

>>127336381
>Messiaen for me is only good up till 1945

Time to listen to the complete Das Wohltemperierte Klavier on the Klavichord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb3guk5iVi4

>>127336535
the clavichord is only good for funk music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7qX7OBgOMw

>>127336621
Not sure what this has to do with /classical/ Maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?

>>127336328
This by the flying spaghetti monster this!!

Edit: Thanks for the gold kind stranger

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Extremely urgent question. Can someone identify the piece of music heard in this clip?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N4I9qEuZ3vY&pp=ygUeY29tbyBlcmEgZ29zdG9zbyBvIG1ldSBmcmFuY2Vz

>>127336950
>I heard you listen to classical music. name every piece or you're a pseud.

how about you fuck off and die.

>>127337067
I wasn’t implying that at all. I said “extremely urgent” merely because I want to know what the piece is and the film is far too obscure to just search the soundtrack list so I figured one of you autists would know.

Sorry for the upset, I guess.

>>127322625
pretty good

>>12733706
I think he was just asking a question, my gizzard

>>127337067
damn u mad

>>127336328
kek based

>>127336934
this is way too fucking specific

>>127334068
>Don't be allergic to different perspectives, you come off as a jerk

>>127336950
No idea. Have you tried Shazam and similar tools? Also, you should listen to actual classical music instead of chasing after some random soundtrack.

Bach
Haydn
Mozart
Beethoven
Bruckner

>>127337350
<<<
Cage
Nancarrow
Wuorinen
Stockhausen
Piotr Zak

>>127337452
gottem gottem the Vagner meme

>>127337473

Chopin
Schumann
Brahms
Rachmaninoff
Scriabin
(Schubert, Beethoven, Prokofiev...)

>>127337521
Dhananjay
Jitendra
Vimal
Raghav
Ranjit
(Kushal, Prabodh, Vipul...)

>>127334178
The Carmina Burana is generally taken as the beginning starting point of western art music.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TL1xSxFfh_I&pp=ygUcTm9tZW4gYSBzb2xlbW5pYnVzIGNsZW1lbmNpYw%3D%3D

I recommend Rene Clemencic’s 3 hour version

>>127337232
The Abrahamic disease takes many shapes, the main one being schizophrenia

>>127335728
wish I was a mod so I can ban you for life

>>127335943
check the symphonies and orchestral sections of
https://www.talkclassical.com/threads/compilation-of-the-tc-top-recommended-lists.17996

>>127337675
why
>>127337666
That's more folk than what we understand as academic music I fear

>>127337689
Because anons put effort into posts and you mock and denigrate them with your unfunny and rude reaction gif, it isn't right and degrades the quality of the general.

Mahler
Bruckner
Brahms
Beethoven
Uh... Liszt/Shostakovich/Bach/Schumann/Dvorak

>>127337284
I don’t understand what the issue is. It’s clearly an actual baroque piece of some kind not a Hans Zimmer movie soundtrack. It’s not wrong to inquire what piece it is. Just curious.

>>127336950
>>127337713
There's no issue, people ask similar questions all the time. Unfortunately I got no idea, sorry. Try asking on /r/classicalmusic, they'll be able to help I'm sure.

>>127336950
Sounds like some late classical-period horn concerto/concertino/sonata concertante. I don't know which, specifically, but have this I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stLhRQvD9Lc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD8zSo-FX5M

>>127337701
I >>127337689 posted >>127335675
It's stupid for sure but not enough to warrant a permaban. Just ignore and move on. What did you think of Hindemith's Kammermusik and Konzertmusik series?

>>127337747
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stLhRQvD9Lc
the IIIrd movement specifically, I meant

>>127337747
7:45 in the bottom one sounds really close to me. I know it’s not it but it sounds very close

>>127337753
More interesting than good. But I'm glad you enjoy it.

>>127337747
I hope we get another recording of this piece on natural horn soon. Halstead, god bless him, he's not very good.

>>127337777
Haven't enjoyed a new (to me) composer this much since exploring the works of Szymanowski, Bridge, and maybe even Milhaud. It's a riot. I'm so glad people were so wrong in conflating Neue Sachlichkeit with Neoclassicism (in the accustomed, heavily Stravinskian, awfully tepid and boring sense of neoclassical). Hindemith really sonuds like no one else, except at times the aforementioned Milhaud and pre-serial Krenek maybe

>>127337689
Well, Carmina Burana may fall under folk category to some but the question was more broadly if any musicians of note existed before Hildegard and not mentioning the Carmina would be a huge oversite because it is one of the earliest uses of neumes and thus one of the earliest music collections. Also the musicians and troubadours parodied within the work such as the Palestinalied are worth searching out.

>>127337804
That makes sense. Folk song as we know can eventually make its way to academia rather easily. As for something older than Hildegard, there's gregorian chant in general which is about a century or two older, and of course this >>127334362

>>127337803
Maybe even Schulhoff before he developed a brain tumour and went full socialist realism

>>127337844
Neumes are as I recall an extremely primitive form of notation where all that is signified is if the note is higher or lower in pitch than the preceding note, hence why all those guys before Hildegard aren’t as well known because with Neumes it is largely guesswork piecing together what the piece even is.

>>127337844
pre-Renaissance music is not worth talking about.

>>127337872
Oh well, then the answer is "anonymous Carolingian composing in a Schola Cantorum that keeps Pope Gregory I's idea somewhat alive" then
>>127337879
Not with people who don't care for it. I do.

Zarlino and after.
R. Strauss and before.

nothing else matters.

>>127337879
Pérotin and Machaut want to know your location

>>127337903
they swam in the ocean so Palestrina (PBUH) could crawl on land.

Has this been poster already? No pre-Hildegard, but since we're on the subject there's lots of interesting things here

>>127337927
>no Grug of Ulm (9798.BC - 9722.BC)

ngmi

>>127337957
That's clearly early Neolithic not Mediaeval you absolute dilettante

>>127337976
>implying there is a meaningful difference.

>>127337927
>leaves out the only medieval composer who is actually essential: machaut

>>127337667
>>127337232
>Still gets upset at being called a fat fedoratipper
kek

maybe im being a schizo but does anyone else see the similarity between some works with identical numbers?? like Sibelius 2 and Vaughan Williams 2, Mahler 4 and Brahms 4 and Bruckner 4 and Tchaikovsky 4??? Beethoven 9 and Mahler 9 and Bruckner 9? Prokofiev 6 and Mahler 6 and Tchaikovsky 6?? dont tell me you dont see this

>>127335969
>45
not long
>31 minutes
NOT FUCKING LONG
>39 minutes
NOT
LONG

What's next on your list of """"""""""""""long symphonies """""""""""""", fucking haydn?

>>127338455
Beethoven string quartet 14 and 15 and Shostakovich sq 14 and 15 but that was probably intentional

>>127338461
>>127335943
peep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRpEt9FvTbU

>>127338461
nta but your screenshot has Brahms 3, Mendelssohn 5, and Dvorak 8 on it, what do you expect

>>127338468
>Ukranian-Russian
He was born in the Russian Empire, for Christs sake just call him Russian. We still call all the composers from the Holy Roman Empire German even if they aren't geographically German anymore. Fuck, we don't even seperate AUSTRIANS from Germans most of the time.

A backwater slav shithole does not deserve more care than fucking AUSTRIA.

>>127338500
slava ukraine!

>>127338500
take back what you said about my wife ukraine

>>127338503
>>127338517
how about "Heil Österreich!" to a country that FUCKING DESERVES IT, im so fucking mad, why does my nation not get a bunch of flags in every tranny's bio and billions of dollars? Because Germany are too much of wimps to do shit?

The great Ukrainian harp concerto of Gliere. Bravo!

https://youtu.be/t7Pai-BASak

>>127338533
If you got invaded, we would. Now, back to /classical/

>>127338561
I don't give a shit if a country gets invaded, I give a shit if the country is good

Fauré

https://youtu.be/SOazIUdrmvI

Wagnerians have ruined this general? Only in the sense that the spiritual women here have been run through by the "Complete Artwork" of Wagner and turned into gibbering holes with Borderline Personality Disorder towards the composer out of sheer resentment for the sensual mastery with which he united all the classical forms in his music drama. That is the Nothung which has raped to death the Fagnirs of this general, leaving only the superior men.

i planned on replying after having listened to them all, but this already got out of hand apparently.
>>127338493
um sister, >>127338461 is not me thoughever, but i would prefer any 30m+ symphonies as i use them for my 30m-round typing sessions typing the Old Testament, in case that helps with more reccs, because i couldn't think of another book with regularly-spaced numbers sprinkled in to practice numbers on.
Moses just died so I was just starting on Joshua.
>>127335969/127336315/127338468 (3 backlinks in a row trips as spam now?)
finished raff, was nice, i like around second movement? (10m-20m mark). will finish them all.
>>127337687
thanks, will look at them later.

>>127338640
try Walton 1
https://youtu.be/Xr3WVje-C3o

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>>127338667
>>127338667
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