Thread 127334101

rap isn't music and rappers aren't musicians

Correct. Cheers.

In The Loop is a great movie and made me watch The Thick of It. Also RIP to Based Gandolfini.

It's truly baffling how such a shit genre became so big

>>127334101 (OP)
>>127334116
Yall can't even hold a stem glass.

I do, wholeheartedly, concur, good sir.

This is just a coded way of saying black people aren't people

>>127334101 (OP)
>zoomer who doesn’t get the sopranos bit wants to talk about it

>>127334300
There's far more real music to blacks than fucking rap. How racist. Chud.

>>127334297
Ozzy made a song with Travis Scott and it was worse than the song Michael Bolton made with Kid Cudi

Everyone posting in this thread is a racist including me

>>127334341
I work with a bunch of uppity africans because I'm retarded and mentally ill and I have tourettes and have to hold back from saying nigger out loud like 10 times a days

>>127334326
Yeah but he shot 17 of sharon's cats with a double-barrel shotgun, which he had to reload 8 times throughout the massacre. Standing there, maintaining the composure to load the shells into the barrels between each pair of cats, and then, like a machine, doing it again, and again, cat brains spattered everywhere.

>genre most heavily oriented toward skilled wordplay
>all lyrics are written at a 2nd grade reading level
How could this happen?

>>127334101 (OP)
What i don't like is the overpraising of it like every tape of hip hop released is a masterpiece and culturally relevant. Most of it is absolute generic slop but truth be told it's the same situations in all genres.
What i'm saying is, i hate the overappretiation of the genre like it's the second coming of christ and you can't even say you don't like it without getting weird looks, i do enjoy some rap but not at that level

>>127334354
That's a made up or heavily exaggerated story because Ozzy loved saying shocking bullshit to add to his mythos

>>127334297
Based enameled cast iron enjoyer.

>>127334300
This is only true in threads about soul, gospel, jazz, funk, etc. Rap is dogshit and always has been and always will be.

>>127334300
black people used to make great music

>>127334448
I know, and in his spirit I shall continue to spread these glorious lies.

there are rappers who are musicians but they are all white

>>127334351
Hi, Elon. How many trucks did you sell as military target practice today?

>>127334508
Seriously, what the fuck happened? It was so good.

>>127334101 (OP)
Rap is a historical disgrace. Lower than low.

>>127334401
Music critics tend to be indoorsey and nerdy. They're attracted to the violent and visceral because of its novelty. It's the reason they embraced punk so early and rejected with such venom the prog acts that would later go on to be recognized as geniuses. Rap is the same thing for the most part. Deranged psychopaths like King Von are put on a pedestal for reasons other than the music. The new "dril" scenes are the logical extension of this where everyone is dying at like 25.

>>127334480
>>127334508
You guys don't listen to any black genres

>>127334325
Who would you say were the greatest black musicians ?, I think Michael Jackson, Prince, Kanye West, Rihanna, Beyonce and Whitney Houston would make it in the top 10, but who else ?

>>127334581
Uhhhhhh Oscar Peterson.

>>127334565
I love jazz and dabble in the other three, fuck off faggot

>>127334676
>le dabbler

What are your top 3 jazz albums I can't wait to hear this

>>127334101 (OP)
COMMENDATORI

>>127334581
>Kanye West, Rihanna
Dropped.

>>127334740
He's literally the only rapper I listen to... give me a break, certainly better than the rest. Also, when you include colabs, Rihanna has a pretty decent catalog, I rather listen to her than, say, Tina Turner.

Rapfags defending black people always come off so fake lmao

>>127334688
Top 3 what jazz albums? Top 3 Impulse Oliver Nelson? Top 3 Live Monk albums? Be specific, tourist.

>>127334740
Interesting fact, Kanye West is the musician with the most albums on /mu/core...

>>127334886
>musician

>>127334886
>John Coltrane
Music.
>Robert Fripp
Music
>Michael Gira
Music
>Radiohead
Music, although it's usually not good
>Kanye West
Not music
>Death Grips
Not music

>>127334911
I forgot John Coltrane, don't care about his music though, but of you include features, Kanye would be the first.
>Radiohead : Music, although it's usually not good
I agree that Muse is better.
I was just curious about black musicians, because out of my favorite albums, around ~80% were produced by caucasian/asian men, ~15% by caucasian/asian women, and 5% by m/f blacks.

>>127334911
>Viper
High-class classical music

>>127335029
I dislike Muse even more, fuck off faggot

Rap is the message of socialist islam. (bad)

>>127334101 (OP)
rap = crap

>>127334547
>Deranged psychopaths like King Von are put on a pedestal
by who? Pitchfork or RYM don't like him

>>127334508
what about modern r&b/soul artists (Frank Ocean, SZA...etc)?

It's been number one on the fake charts for the past 20 years. Time for something else.

>>127334351
Why hold back? You have tourettes its the ultimate excuse

Nigger noise

>>127334122
Yes Minister is even better

>>127334809
Rihanna has two ok albums, the first and last one with everything in between low effort slop shit out by Jay-Z's laundering machine.

>>127335029
Black music has historically tended to be a singles not an album format.

>>127340531
I've been meaning to watch that too, all of my favorite contemporary brit comedians cite it as an influence

>>127340613
It's brilliant. Iannucci created TTOI as a YM update but YM/YPM is even better written imo. My cult fav is Garth Marenghi's Darkplace

>>127340874
Darkplace is a fucking classic, I just saw Matthew Holness in the show Back staring Mitchell and Webb which was also very solid

>>127341076
>fellow darkplace fan
BASED

M&W stuff didn't hit my funny bone but i might check that

>>127341488
I rewatched Darkplace last year, it's still held up so well. I really like Peep Show and the Mitchell and Webb Situation/Look shows, but it's probably not as consistent as The Thick of It imo, plus Malcolm Tucker might be one of my favorite comedy characters of all time.

>>127334277
because anyone can hop into it. literally retard IQ entry level.
>Grabs a Rhyme Dictionary
>Samples a beat
>Sometimes uses a free beat on YouTube
>Mumbles dumb shit

These days you barely have to ryhme.

>>127334101 (OP)
There are a few gems (can be counted on the fingers of one hand) that I can still enjoy, the rest is soulless crap and not music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU0_cYjm8HE

>>127343920
Lmao so why havent you done it and made millions of dollars if its so fuckin easy

>>127344771
he's saying being a fan of rap is easy, not getting famous off of it, you illiterate subhuman

>>127334101 (OP)
fuck you yt boi we breeding your womens

>>127334101 (OP)
Do you believe that percussion is music?

>>127334101 (OP)
Correct.

>>127334522
Rampant fatherlessness.

>>127344853
>>127344771
No, im saying making rap is easy. It is. Becoming famous is not easy it has always been hard rn Rap is saturated with a mountain of garbage even all the way to the top. People that made their fame is because of their life, they were part of a gang or their aesthetics (like Bones) or some shit.

What they "sing" (rapping is not singing) about is dumb shit without much depth though. also they cant sing. they cannot do anything in tone let alone hold a note. Nothing.
Retard level skill ceiling. Getting rich out of rap would require me to find a good aesthetic that has not been taken such as how Bones did it. Then push a style (not substance just style) forward. Rap is the death of music.

TIME TO QUIT.

>>127334101 (OP)
based

"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.."

For me, it's how they sample pre-existing music and modifying it to create a new form of rhythm/song. Some albums like the Low-End Theory exemplifies this.

>>127334480
Jazz is music

Unfortunately

>>127334565
Rock is a black genre though

>>127348816
rock and roll was, rock wasnt

a rapper is a musician in the same way hulk hogan is a professional fighter.

technically yes, but no

>>127345104
No. I was listening to a Bandcamp album that was entirely percussion and got bored beyond wits. There was nothing musical about it, no tone changes, no melody

>>127348816
Early one influenced by blues was.
But it transformed into very different things later
There's nothing really black in punk or metal, for example

>>127349372
every genre of music that is about counting to four is black music.

>>127334547
Oh shit

>>127349397
You dumbo

>>127344853
>>127345241
>you illiterate subhuman
LMAO

>>127348516
stay filtered

>>127334351
Im like you but I do it anyway

>>127334547
That doesn't explain why the majority of music critics despise acts like GG Allin & The Murder Junkies, Burzum or Anal Cunt. It seems theyre willing to tolerate extremity unless it breaks some unspoken taboos then its considered "offensive"

>>127335987
I always make a Billy Ocean joke anytime anyone brings up Frank Ocean and it flies over everyone's head

>>127334581
Frank Ocean