Thread 127334651

I don't get it. What is the appeal?

Idk nigga go listen to Eutow it's a good song

>>127334651 (OP)
if you;re not into it, you're not into it. don't force it.

>>127334651 (OP)
I don't get the appeal of the "IDM" genre as a whole either.

i'm a fan but a problem for anyone who's never listened to them before but likes the warp 'idm' and adjacent is that if you approach them by listening to practically anything they've recorded after 2000 you'll be varying levels of confused

I am surprised almost no musicians seem to even try to make music like this. I suspect in about 20 years some people will figure out how to make AI make better-than-human music and autechre will be one of the only reference points

>>127334940
(or maybe I'm ignorant and many musicians do try but either no one notices or none of them manage to make anything good)

Nothing like AE.

>>127334944
better than human may be possible but when considering what you may want to hear if something is the best for you context will have to be considered

I adore Incunabula but can't stand "glitch" so every Autechre album rapidly gets worse and worse after that.

>>127334651 (OP)
I just like the way they sound, even their weird shit, there's nothing quite like it. I'm sure there's some impressive technical aspects of their music that goes over my head. They're definitely not for everyone; I was listening to Confield at a friend's place one time and his gf said it was too scary and made us turn it off hahaha

>>127334651 (OP)
They have that special sound that evokes a warm feeling, similar to the one you get when you wet your pants.

>>127334651 (OP)
it's hard to explain, nothing else quite sounds like them. Things make a lot more sense when you listen to their albums chronologically.

i think their sound is cold and bleak. i like other idm a lot though, the more melodic stuff. autechre isn't melodic or groovy. prove me wrong

>>127334651 (OP)
idk it just sounds cool

>>127336996
lots of melodic and groovy Autechre tracks, mostly their early stuff though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lArXV1kiC3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NyfHbyI4o8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2iDtfIaip0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTUnTGb15c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdhtm6qjmhU

>>127334651 (OP)
Sometimes it sounds good, sometimes it sounds shit.

>>127334651 (OP)
i listen to them in my sleep, very relaxing

>>127336197
>can't go futher their most basic and dated album and actually appreciate their most authentic and complex body of work

Utterly filtered.

>>127334651 (OP)
This is about modern Autechre I guess. The appeal is that you are into abstract electronic music and sound design, and more specifically a research into the unknown. If you're a normie pleb who only perceives music through the means of traditional instrumentation and notation, there is no room for you.

>>127338905
This

>>127338769
Sometimes it sounds good, sometimes it sounds amazing.

*fixed

>>127334651 (OP)
Satisfying bip boop noises.

>>127338744
post an example of their newer glitch sound

>>127334651 (OP)
I like them because it's like the inner machinations of my autistic mind in sound form.

>>127336996
>prove me wrong
The entirety of Oversteps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oinDoetKD0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFm87ncj-Xc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLs4zhoCOIo

They peaked with Cavity Job

>>127334651 (OP)
sometimes those funny bleeps and bloops scratch itches only the autisitc or ADHD mind can comprehend

Autechre is music for 'pseuds,' as they say. Nothing remarkable about anything they've made.

>>127338744
None of this is melodic or groovy except for the last link.

>>127336197
>>127336996
>>127340673
Still being filtered by Autechre in 2025 is the most braindead, normie-like and low IQ thing you can do as a music listener.

>>127341263
textbook pseud behavior.
just try to have this argument with a real person face-to-face one of these days.

>>127340673
>as they say. Nothing remarkable about anything they've made.

Speaking out of your crusty asshole.

>>127341305
I don't need to have it since I don't hang out with brainlet cobolds.

because of the sounds and you know there's a pattern and structure in there somewhere

Where else would you find something that sounds like a broken up break beat track that you have to piece together

https://youtu.be/j5eKgaWMl10

>>127341892
> broken up break beat track that you have to piece together
Venetian Snares actually did that as a promo gimmick for My Love Is A Bulldozer: https://www.reddit.com/r/venetiansnares/comments/l879ld/the_venetian_snares_lost_stems_have_been_found_my/

Where else would you find something that sounds like a broken up breakcore track that you have to piece together?

https://youtu.be/2EX25KfBxjU

*I meant breakcore not breakbeat

>>127341978
weird coincidence with the VS post I made

>>127334651 (OP)
their tune Overand soothes the fuck out of me. it was one favorite for long bus rides at night. cant get into their other stuff

>>127340016
The first track sounds like someone walking over a thin bridge struggling to hang on

>>127334940
Apparently they use (or have used) Max/MSP which is for generative music, you can find a lot of tracks made with it on youtube. There's also PureData which is similar.

>>127336197
I was in the same place as you, but the other albums have been growing on me, I think they're good for repeated listens (though there are still some tracks that filter me). Still, Incunabula is something special even though it's the most conventional album they did.

>>127334651 (OP)
it doesn't work in the modern world. if you were around in the 90s then it made sense. once people had DAWs on their laptop and a smartphone, IDM was pointless.
i watched it die. autechre is music for guys approaching 50 who still want to think they are cool in their minds. a form of snobbery and luddism, ironically, given how future focussed it once was.

>>127342171
max/msp allows you to do what you want. to create your own creation tools. generative stuff just gets views because it offers hope to the talentless that they can press a dice icon and get a great "preset' and some never ending sound they can cut loops from to turn into a track.

>>127336996
I thought LP 5 was pretty accessible

>>127342655
We are mostly talking about their 2000s stuff here, which utilizes entirely different technologies

>>127342655
>>127342681
oh good another bitter old man, not like we don't have enough of you

>>127334651 (OP)
Forget it, OP. It's Boomer Music.

>>127334651 (OP)
> do you like actual electronic music being performed?
Then, Autechre are for you.

Their approach to music is similar to jazz musicians.
This is especially true if you listen to their concerts. I loved how they blended all the electronic styles to make a concert that was danceable but still unpredictable.
The early stuff is still remarkable and fresh to this day, no wonder that in some dj sets you’ll still dance to Kalpol Intro (live).


Definitely a concert that I’d see again and never get tired of.

Its insane sometimes how many different sections in tracks that develop while other things are happening like in Bine

>>127343139
Is all their music improvised on the spot?

>>127334651 (OP)
I'd let the one on the left raw me

>>127345235
I wrote a long ass reply to this and deleted it before posting because it came out too autistic
basically: not really.
their album tracks might have improvised/random elements, but they do a ton of work setting up their Max/MSP to sound/behave a certain way.
their live sets are them improvising/communicating with each other in realtime on their rig.

Too much ksching for my tastes but their alright

>>127334651 (OP)
For me, the appeal is Exai.

>>127346177
Based, their best album.

>>127348747
That and LP5

I don't think they own any fashion gear that isn't North Face or Arcteryx

>>127340673
>None of this is melodic or groovy except for the last link.
The Egg/Eggshell has the most distinctive melody out of their entire discog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16XPl4TrS58

>>127349411
They look so old here, it makes me sad

>>127340673
If you listen to it enough it starts making sense

People that say autechre is too difficult don't make sense to me i rather listen to this then some slow ambient music that does nothing or even deadmau5

>>127340016
Still not groovy or melodic and not good.

>>127349896
Just say your a midwit and move on

Where's the chorus? Is that the chorus?

>>127349896
Here's a groove

https://youtu.be/5HjNXesR08o

>>127349896
Try listening to Tri Repetae

AFX is better.
Maybe Arca, too.

>>127340673
The second one has a groove
I mean most of it has some kind of groove even listen to EP7 Tri Repetae and melody. I think your focusing on some of the more abstract or ambient tracks

>>127336996
The second one has a groove
I mean most of their music has some kind of groove. I think your focusing on more the ambient abstract elements too much

>>127334651 (OP)
Squarepusher is way better than this garbage, even Aphex Twin sounds better in comparison.

>>127350942
>>127350088
Lol, autechre is better than afx and that talentless trust funder fag

>>127350088
>>127350942
The term IDM shouldn't have been invented, all of these artists have nothing in common besides using computers to make sounds

>>127351789
clever anon. it's the truth, even AE said something like that in an interviews
>>127350942
>>127351182
fuck off console war retards

>>127350088
>>127350942
None of them have released anything decent in decades.

>>127351789
It was a catchy and cheeky label that caught on, which is more than half the point of these labels. the artists associated with it were different, but all the big names from its first wave came down the Warp/Artifical Intelligence pipeline and its offshoots.

>>127350942
I think... They are all good :)

>>127350255
>>127340673

>>127334651 (OP)
>>organized random noise
aphex twin'sies

BoCbros... Are Boards of Canada over? Just think about all the tracks they've made that we'll never get to hear.

>>127350088
Funny since Autechre is Arca's biggest influence and sounds less interesting

>>127334651 (OP)
Listen to their records in chronological order.

Autechre might be one of those acts that created a sound and end up being the best ones to do it

FKA Twigs is another i can think of that's influenced by them sonically

Burial latest takes the influence and ads to it rather than doing the same ideas and pasting them

To be fair, Autechre only appeals to people with very high IQs. Dunno, something about how the brain works. Personally, I love Autechre.

>>127358813
And what does he add to it?

>>127358475
Early Arca had hip-hop infused idm that actually sounded interesting. You're downplaying it. Current Arca is just reggaeton, unfortunately.

>>127351182
>>127351846
>>127351864
Tbh it was ragebait for niggas that keep saying shit like "you're a brainlet if you can't understand it" like >>127358817. Idc, I think Autreche is actually good.

>>127360772
agreed. that anon is a retard yeah, i bet he couldn't even explain the appeal of their music in his own words

>>127358401
i'm afraid so :(

Tri Repetae is their best.

Alright, which one of you posted this?
https://forum.keyosc.com/topic/1046-these-guys-could-use-ai-to-generate-their-albums-or-live-performances-from-now-on-and-nobody-would-ever-notice/

>>127362051
I mean, he's not wrong lol

>>127342171
Lorenzo Senni uses Max run through a JP-8000 and it sounds bonkers.